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Gentoo 2004.2 Released
brghntr writes "The gentoo guys (and girls) have released 2004.2 for the x86, AMD64, HPPA, and SPARC. You can read the information page here or go straight to the mirrors."
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PPC wasn't mentioned, but it seems it's on its way too.
FP?
This was annouced at about 1:20am BST, when I was about 200MB into disk 1 of 2004.1
So now I've got to downoad 2004.2 from the beginning, and trash 2004.1
If only I had warning...
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If your regularly do an emerge -uD world then your system is pretty much up to date.
For all intensive porpoises your a bunch of rediculous loosers
I'm curious, why do linux distributions typically have PowerPC releases always up to a generation behind when it would seem that HPPA and SPARC are likely a smaller installed base?
Is it that there are relatively few of the PPC base demand a Linux distribution when compared to what are mostly server-class CPU's and more likely to be running a Linux distro?
Just wondering out loud.
The gentoo guys (and girls) have released 2004.2 for the x86, AMD64, HPPA, and SPARC. You can read the information page here or go straight to the mirrors."
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Dealing with lawyers would be a lot less tedious if they all looked like Casey Novak.
now you can get most of the software in binary form too (using emerge).
Not that it matters, gentoo bashers will say anything to sound smart.
just take a look at the mirrors.. if the mirrors are already updated theirs no slashdotting is going to do anything to them.
for two reasons, first there's quite a big list of them and the second reason is that there's couple of sites on the list that could probably take the beating all by themselfs.
world was created 5 seconds before this post as it is.
There are some configuration-type things that don't get updated by an 'emerge -uD world'. Sure, all of your packages are kept up to date, but for instance, Gentoo has moved from XFree86 to X.org. That change won't be made until you move from 1.4 to 2004.x. I once saw directions on how to make the switch, but lost track before I could do anything about it. So for the moment, I'm '-uD world' like you.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
The strenght of Gentoo Linux is that it does not really matter what version you are using. emerge sync and emerge -u world, wait a while and there: you are running the latest version. The install has not changed much, so this actually means nothing to us Gentoo users. You get the latest version whatever Live CD you use to install, only the pre-buildt GRP packages are different on new releases.
..try Gentoo today! It's excellent.
This is why you should try Gentoo today, it is excellent for both servers and desktops. Desktop users can choose to use the latest ("masked"), bleeding edge versions, while older stable packages should be preferred for production environments.
The Gentoo Portage tree has more packages in it's database than any other Linux distribution. The freedom to choose.
There is also a sweet front-end for Gentoo's portage called porthole. It allows you to search through the package database from a GUI GTK interface. You can browse the portage database online to find out how much software is available without installing Gentoo.
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When I last checked there weren't links to the torrents on the announcement and now I can't get to the site and see if they've changed that. So just to be sure here's the link.
I would love to be able to use linux more, I am taking a course in community college and my boyfriend was wonderful for helping me out with that but when I told him that I hated him developing for gentoo all the time (he even forgot out anniversary) and sitting at the computer all the time, things went from bad to worse, and we eventually split up. And I regret it because now I'm failing college!
So anyway, I've tried gentoo a lot but it seems to have the occasional problem and I can't make it burn CDs or sync with my ipod, so my tutor recommended SuSE, so perhaps I will try that.
I'm catholic and from Scotland originally, so I'm not really from a computing background (none of my family is working class you see) but it is interesting to learn about and I'm thinking linux is the best thing for learning web development, and gentoo especially when you get more advanced.
Sorry for my rambling :)
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gentoo has ebuild for both apache 2.0 and apache 1.3
Installation document comes with Gentoo installation CD as well as text mode www-browser.
Extra computer is not needed although it might be helpful.
http://www.tlm-project.org/torrents/gentoo/x86/200 4.2/
I had to dig on the forums to find this, but still.
You don't need two computers to do this. The Gentoo liveCD comes with - if they haven't removed them - installation instructions and a cli browser(lynx), which is suitable for browsing the forums.
If you don't like cli you could always use another Linux distro or Knoppix LiveCD to install Gentoo...
...My ex-boyfriend was a big gentoo-lover, in fact he was a developer for it or something...
...I would love to be able to use linux more
...I can't make it burn CDs or sync with my ipod...
...I'm catholic and from Scotland...
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Code, Hardware, stuff like that.
PHP runs fine with Apache 2.0, just enable prefork to make it work the same as Apache 1.3.x with child daemons. Hell, if you are running fairly limited libraries in PHP you can get away without.
More info on Prefork at http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/prefork.html
There's probably some USE flag you can set to force a prefork build in Gentoo.
Still, i'm one of those odd people that prefer to roll their own Apache install.
And I think computer *work* is working class, that's right. There's nothing wrong with being working class. But back home, people who work in computers (and here too) tend to be working class because it is a hard working and honest profession. I'd put them at upper working class, and perhaps some at lower middle class or even middle class. Working class means nurses, skilled labourers and craftsmen, programmers, middle class is more into the professions, maybe in the computer world this would relate to designers and architects, not just programmers.
Anyway, back home working class kids go to state schools and had spectrums and whatnot to learn from at night, but upper middle and upper class children tend to go to public school which is very expensive and aren't directed towards computers but rather for more shall-we-say "managerial" positions in life.
Working class kids go to school where they are asked questions like "compare and contrast these pieces by Shelley and Byron", but upper middle and upper class children go to schools where they are asked questions more like "You are Julius Caesar. You are invading Gaul. What do you do next?"
I'm not trying to sound snobby and superior at all - in fact the opposite, I like computers and want to learn more about them, and I have nothing against working class people at all, I respect them. But culturally speaking it really is very unusual for a girl of my background to become interested in computers, alright?
Love, Margot. x
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It's usually called /etc/profile.d/make.sh in which you export CFLAGS and the compiling options you wanted.
What is this nonsense about other OSes not being able to do this?
"We're breaking out the ramen noodles. . . "
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If the servers are out, try the torrents.
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I've had better luck with 2004.0 than 2004.1. In fact, I couldn't get 2004.1 to even boot the 2.6 kernel on the live CD. But of course the beauty of gentoo is that it doesn't matter since you can always update your system at any time.
I recommend people do a stage 3 and install the binary packages if you're not sure of what optimizations. Then play around with cfflags and use flags and then recompile everything later on. Doing a stage 1 as a beginner is a waste of time because later on you'll find some important use flag you missed that could give you some performance. Of course, if you know what you're doing, then go for a stage 1 if you have the time. It took me about 24 hours to go from stage 3 to a kde environment.
The reason I recommend gentoo to people, however, is portage. Anyone on mandrake, fedora, or suse have at one time or another had to deal with RPM hell. Portage solves all that. And while people complain how it takes so long, it's not time spent hunting for packages and tarballs like if you want to install a package that one of those above mentioned distros does not have yet. So for example, before you go to sleep, you type "emerge mozilla-firefox" and when you wake up, you have firefox and it took all of two seconds on your part. It won't take all night of course, I'm just using that example to show how while it takes longer to compile packages, it takes just two seconds of your time.
How much compiling could you be doing? I run gentoo as well and after the initial install-all-of-my-programs, I complile maybe once a week for about 5 minutes to update my world. And the time you spend compiling gets made up in Gentoo's speed. Also what do you mean by "Wouldn't most computers be too busy compiling to actually be able to slashdot anything?" The new gentoo version only applies to people that dont have gentoo yet. People that already have gentoo are constantly up-to-date.
Whoever dies with the most toys wins.
I don't use gentoo daily, but it seems everytime i do and I want to upgrade to the latest stuff there's always some new release of firefox, thunderbird or some other application or library that takes a long time to compile. It's not just new versions of the applications but new releases of the packages 0.9.2-2 instead of 0.9.2-1 and so on.
I suppose i must have some weird setting or perhaps I'm just too sensitive about compile times.
And I meant that downloading lots of new stuff really wouldn't hit the mirrors that hard since it takes a lot more time to compile new packages than to download them. Well at least on my connection and computer. But then again, if my above mentioned experiences are not those of the common gentoo users I guess that's not really true.
When do we get a Gentoo topic icon on Slashdot? Look at all of the out of date icons that are out there, but after 2 years we still don't have a Gentoo one?
/C/B -help
Sorry, but this has irked me for some time, especially since I think the Gentoo icon is one of the classiest, along with the Debian icon.
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Okay, I don't know how to do it, but wouldn't it be great if we could have some open-network DISTCC farms to use in completing Gentoo builds?
... the "Gentoo DISTCC Open Net" project would be an interesting Sunday afternoon exercise ... for someone ...
I'm sure this would be something we can get running fairly easily, and see how well it works
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Hope this eases some download woes for someone...
seems like you could just skip releases until such a time as it's really useful for you then, only do critical security minor changes. Pick-say-every third release minor variation instead of every single one.
I don't use gentoo, never tried it as all I have is a very old machine,the thought of weeks to install are.... well, it's not happening. I wouldn't bother with a binary version of what is touted as the ultimate source based, that would defeat the purpose of choosing that one, as that seems to go counter to the idea of compiling everything from source for maximum optimization. I use another binary version of linux, quite content with it. If I had another spare machine that was pretty new and powerful I would probably try it though, just for the heck of it.
Like I said, I don't know with gentoo source, maybe you should always stay as current as possible, I really don't know, but skipping versions seems at least theoretically possible, if you wish to always compile from source.
check out the mozilla-firefox-bin and mozilla-thunderbird-bin binary packages, just download and extract. i'll update these during work if there's a new version and then before i go home start compiling the real thing, then unmerge the bin in the morning.
# rm
# ln -s
where x86 should be replaced with your current architecture: alpha, amd64, arm, ppc, sparc, or x86, although not all of those architectures have 2004.2 profiles
Of added interest appears to be the
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..and together we can emerge some love.
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Well, I don't mean to sound like a dick, but I sincerely agree with the "gentoo zealots" then. I have tried other distros and I find gentoo to be the best for my needs. Before I used gentoo, I was in the same boat as you in that these people pissed me off when they'd rant and rave about gentoo. Don't worry, I'm not going to say "you should try it because I said so" I'm just going to say it IS all it's cracked up to be.