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Netscape 7.2 To Be Released August 3rd
Following up a story from May, linux2004 writes "for those who thought Netscape was dead after firing all their staff and spinning Mozilla off into a non-profit foundation, then think again. It was announced a while back that Netscape would continue releases of their browser suite and now the release date has been confirmed as August 3rd as a free download or by buying a CD. I don't think it'll take the attention away from Firefox but will be a decent upgrade for those using Netscape 7.1. The 7.2 release will be based on Mozilla 1.7 and will probably have the usual Netscape additions."
Maybe my stoopid admins will upgrade my machie from Netscape 4 to the new version...
Unbelievable:
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And both of them on the same day... Crazy... This must be some conspiracy against slashdot users
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I wonder if there will be a new addition to the Book of Mozilla. The Book of Mozilla, 8:3
A better idea would probably be a Netscape branded Firefox. That would kick ass.
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- First-person browser: Seventh installment in the ground-breaking NETSCAPE series
- Enhanced storyline; winner of multiple awards for graphics,sound,and action
- Spine-chilling, bloodcurdling, altogether unfriendly environment
- Music by Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails
- One of the most highly anticipated titles of 2004
Give me a break. Most uninformed people (which is the majority of people in this world) do not have a clue what Firefox is. These same people probably do know what Netscape is.
Netscape might not be as advanced and bleeding edge as Firefox or Mozilla but at least it has the name recognition that the non-geeks require.
I use Netscape 7.1 right now, rather than Mozilla or Firefox because I have some online financial sites that recognize Netscape and IE, but refuse to work with Mozilla. I refuse to use IE whenever possible, so, I'm glad to hear that Netscape keeps marching on.
Unfortunately, it is unlikely that Thunderbird will support Netscape mail, being proprietory.
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Bit of a cautionary tale perhaps?
Cheers,
Ian
This is a rather odd pattern. Sun gives OOo as a free [no $ - N$ for the rest of this] alternative to Word and sells a slightly more advanced version called StarOffice...
Now Netscape is doing basically the same thing. Add in the other Linux vendors that offer something N$ and another with a price tag and spinoff of the old business model (lower optioned item at cost/loss to hook 'em and high-profit items to upgrade them later) is created.
The real question for the software world is if this is a viable model in the long run?
In OSS, there are quite a few individuals that keep the N$ items going, but is there much incentive for the priced offerings (other than businesses for support/peace of mind)?
It will be interesting to watch this trend unfold
I'm not sure whether it'll help or hinder the Firefox launch, I don't really think it'll have much effect either way. What might do though is agreeing to advertise it so if you're webmaster of a high traffic site or have a say in what goes into a dead-tree magazine click the link...
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It's the first release since the Mozilla *Foundation* was founded just over a year ago. It was formed July 15th, 2003 and Netscape 7.1 was released June 29th, at the time it was expected to be the last Netscape release.
I know I don't. I am grateful to them for the mozilla project, don't get me wrong, but netscape is little more than an AOL whore.
It's akin to MS taking the latest mozilla, turning it into IE.
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Now that the WWW is a scarier place, Mozilla is much more comforting to me than IE, but I miss some of the ease of IE when it came to the ability to play some of the "multimedia" out there.
Netscape was just as effective as IE when it came to that sort of thing, and if they can bring the "full flavor" back to the internet without the nagging security holes in Internet Explorer then it might just be worth the second chance.
That's as long as Netscape don't introduce additional bugs into their branded version, of course.
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I'm all for choice in the browser market, but why bother fielding 3 browsers, all based on the same code? AFAI can see, the functionality of all three could be achieved with a basic browser plus plugins/extensions/installation options. What's the reasoning behind The Way Things Are?
This is brilliant news there's still some web sites I know that say they support Netscape and not Firefox, if this can get the Netscape marketshare up until Firefox becomes a household name (and it's on its way - there's a lot of marketing planned around the 1.0 release) then it'll encourage webmasters to fix their bugs.
Also it means there's a recent secure browser that people can switch to from IE if the pre-1.0 version number puts people off Firefox (I know the Mozilla suite is 1.7 but they never really did aim that one at end users and doesn't have the new extension management stuff Firefox will have).
If you look at the copyright notice in the Netscape Store article linked to in the story you'll also notice that the store is run by MozSource which is the retail arm of the Mozilla Foundation.
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As I understand this Mozilla was paid by AOL to set this up for them. Not that this changed any of the procedures to create Netscape. Ever since Mozilla was founded they have crated Mozilla first and then rebranded and added the custom Netscape code on top after they rolled out Mozilla. One of the reasons the 1.7 codebase was locked is because Netscape was based on it. All the past locked branches have been timed with Netscape launches. Ex: Moz1.4 = NS7.1
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netscape is bloated and useless now that mozilla is out. firefox is picking up a huge amount of support and it's the best browser on the net.
Yeah! And not only AIM, but Viewpoint Media Player, and Winamp, and "FREE AOL!" icons for my desktop and my Start Menu...
I can't wait.
Well for one I'd be happy if they sent Netscape 7.2 on CD to all their ISP subscribers, this would help increase Gecko marketshare.
If Gecko gets a significant share of the market (in whatever form - Netscape, Firefox, Camino, etc) then it might make Netscape's parent company decide to finally switch their ISP for muppets (AOL) over to a Gecko based browser too - particularly with all the IE security holes.
That would make me happy.
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That way we wouldn't have had to go through the 'Phoenix-Firebird-Firefox' saga. I seriously doubt AOL is currently making any money on the 'Netscape' brand, but a Firefox-renamed-Netscape would actually have a chance of gaining some market share.
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It's probably still not too late
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More pain in developing webpages/sites, since there will be yet another browser in the market, and the yuppies in marketing and sales will scream their throats off for "compatibility" with it
Mozilla/Firefox/Netscape are all standards compliant browsers you don't have to design your website with any special code to achieve full compatibility with them. You would only have a problem if you have a non-standards compliant website, then you *would* have to rewrite it. But hey if you decided to have a non-standard site, you deserve to have to do extra work.
Standards are your friends.
Corporate execs are more comfortable with a known brand name. Even though Mozilla (and FF, Camino, K-Meleon, etc) are based on the same code, they are not "Netscape". When execs are made aware of the faults and deficiencies of IE, they may think "I wish it was still like the old days, when we could at least choose between IE and Netscape." Lo and behold, here's Netscape 7.2. If you mention Opera or Firefox to them, you'd get blank stares.
Also, some of these execs want an all-in-one solution, not a perceived patchwork of FF+TB+whatever to meet basic internet needs.
Plus, "Mozilla" sounds like something only a geek could love. "Netscape" sounds like a polished product, like the marketing team actually spent more than 5 seconds to think of it. That's important to execs.
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It's not useless to me. I use Mozilla at home, but at work, I'm stuck with Netscape. And if NS wasn't around, I'd have to use that M$ browser that sounds like a scream (and causes them).
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Once these same people start using the web a bit more, get used to things better, and finally get fed up with all the damn spyware, spamware, pop-ups, and start complaining to their techie friends about it, they realize that their techie friends haven't even used IE since like, the dark ages (if ever). So by word-of-mouth, they'll finally upgrade to something decent - hopefully that will be Mozilla Firefox (because it rules).
I've also noticed that the G4/TechTV show, The Screen Savers, regularly plugs Firefox as it's browser of choice whenever someone asks what is a good browser replacement for IE (The Screen Savers rule!).
Whilst many claim Firefox doesn't have the brand recognition that Internet Explorer does, it's getting a big push here in Australia.
:) :)
Take a look at the front cover of the Sydney Morning Herald.
You can read the full article here.
Kudos to MozillaZine for running an article on it.
So yeah... people in Aust. are taking firefox seriously... most Aust. sites are getting hammered if they are not FF friendly.
Cheers,
M.
Did anyone noticed that Office 2003 Service Pack 1 automatically sets IE as the default brower without even asking?
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How about version 4.0, where they re-wrote nearly the entire suite (this was the first of the "Communicator" suites). For me, that was first release that took a step in the wrong direction in terms of bloat and speed, and I had been using Navigator since v.1.1.
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Mega bloated? Mozilla AppSuite is approximately as big as the standalone browser + emailclient + composer + tec. put together. It's a choice between several downloads totalling +- 20 MB, or one big +- 20 MB download.
Takes an hour to startup? What kind of equipment are you using :) ? 20 MHz 386 ;) ?
On my old 500 MHz Pentium III + 64 MB memory it takes over half a minute, but on my new 3 GHz Pentium IV with HyperThreading and 512 MB memory it loads in seconds. No problem.
If Mozilla suite takes an hour to load, then most other apps will take long to load too. Not a Mozilla problem, but old hw not designed for todays sw.
Netscape 7.2 will be based on Mozilla 1.7, so your rants over Netscape are not applicable.
A very important point is the fact that now, if a business wants to roll out the browser, they have a corporate contact and a support partner in form of Netscape. Lack of a commercial entity behind a product is one of the biggest, if not THE biggest obstacles to adoption of a lot of FOSS in commercial IT.
This is exciting also because Mozilla is not just a browser, but an application framework - it happens to be a very nice toolkit for developing client-side GUIs. In a corporate environment with a lot of custom-rolled user interfaces, this is a very valuable tool; and even PHBs are pleased because there's Netscape to sign a support contract with.
is who cares?
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