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Life After Doom

An anonymous reader writes "What's next for the maker of Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein? Chris Morris of CNN Money talks to id's CEO, who tells us the next id game won't be anything like the others. Rather than a re-hash of its sci-fi or WWII themes, CEO Todd Hollenshead says, 'I'd like to try something new.' [Hollenshead also notes that an as yet unidentified developer with 'a name that people recognize' has licensed the Doom 3 engine.]"

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  1. HL2 / DukeNukem4ever! by theGreater · · Score: 4, Funny

    NOW we'll FINALLY get to see these fine pieces of cinematic gore released. Phew!

    -theGreater Obvious Comment.

    1. Re:HL2 / DukeNukem4ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      How about finally giving us Commander Keen: The Universe Is Toast? We've only been waiting, what, thirteen years?

  2. Un-named eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That wouldn't be Duke Nukem?

    1. Re:Un-named eh? by Loadmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wouldn't be suprised if it was. And after they get the Doom 3 engine they'll switch to the HL2 engine when it's released. Of course, they'll spend a few months of development time discussing whether they should wait for the next Unreal engine. Then bam! In 2040, after Epic goes under and id is bought out by ValuSoft, the world is blessed with Duke Nukem Forever (as a hidden game on a Midway Classics compilation disk for the Phantom 12.4.34.

    2. Re:Un-named eh? by Gravatron · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maby we'll get lucky and some Ex-Cavedog folks are restarting Amen: The Awakening. That game had so much potential, and had an interesting enough story that it could have rocked. Its a shame cavedog scraped it when they hit finacial woes. If I had the money and the talent, i'd pick up the rights to it, get ahold of all cavedog's concept art/storyboards/etc and make the game a realty.

  3. Uh-oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    [Hollenshead also notes that an as yet unidentified developer with 'a name that people recognize' has licensed the Doom 3 engine.]

    Microsoft?

    1. Re:Uh-oh... by Loadmaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is this a troll? I could see MS licensing the Doom 3 engine. We really haven't seen any progress on Perfect Dark Zero. The Doom 3 engine is the best you'll get on the Xbox; why not use it for PDZ?

    2. Re:Uh-oh... by gyrojoe · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indeed, they are using it for Longhorn.
      System requirements are about the same

    3. Re:Uh-oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Easter egg in the next version of Excel?

  4. Whats next for the maker of Doom, Quake and Wolfe? by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Women. Hopefully.

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  5. The next Big thing by Ikn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can't remember where exactly I RTFA, but I heard that the next big project will be an entirely new title. They've seemed to master and own the FPS show, perhaps they'll step foot into a new genre, a la' Blizzard and Warcraft 3?

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    1. Re:The next Big thing by shadowmatter · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm hoping something like the Sims, combined with the BFG.

      Having your Sim settle a dispute with his/her ex has never been so exciting.

      - sm

    2. Re:The next Big thing by bigjocker · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know when you're a geek when the prospect of blowing a girlfriend up to pices to settle a dispute sounds more exciting than anything else. Wink, wink.

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    3. Re:The next Big thing by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know when you're a geek when the prospect of blowing a girlfriend up to pices to settle a dispute sounds more exciting than anything else. Wink, wink.

      Funny, I thought the word was "homicidal maniac".

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    4. Re:The next Big thing by Some_Llama · · Score: 2, Funny

      It will be ala starcraft or warcraft, only 2 races though... hell spawn and marines.

      although the graphics engine will be awesome.

      "Choose your race"

      "Hell spawn- 13 unique characters and 5 tech trees, from imps to hell barons and the toughest tank ever, the cyberdemon!!"

      "Marines- one unit, the grunt, equiped with a flashlit and a pda"

    5. Re:The next Big thing by d474 · · Score: 2, Funny
      You didn't RTFA. You STFV
      We all got the RTFA part, but what is "STFV"? My first guess is "Svenska folkskolans vänner" except I can't place the "T". Could it be "Tävlingstiden"? I don't know, my Finnish is a little rusty.

      Am I anywhere in the ballpark?
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  6. Something new, Something Borrowed, Something Blue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They could always try adding a plot.

    A color other than Brown might be nice as well.

  7. 3D Realms? by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who wants to bet that it is 3D Realms that is the unnamed licencesee? DNF has been in development for so long that I'm sure the engine has been scrapped multiple times. The Doom 3 engine should provide plenty of headroom, and I'm assuming that all of their content has been being made at high resolution anyways.

    Makse sense to me...

    1. Re:3D Realms? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Funny
      I would assume that since doing something along those lines would actually lead to the completion of DNF, that it will not happen;-)

      My guess is Blazemonger!

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    2. Re:3D Realms? by Meostro · · Score: 5, Funny

      In non-technical circles (races), DNF stands for "did not finish"... is that some subtle hint from 3D Realms, the longest-running April Fools joke ever?

    3. Re:3D Realms? by lightknight · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey, at the time, BUILD was great. Something severely lacking in DOOM: the ability to jump. Makes for all sorts of fun.

      But what made the cake was the combination of all the vice elements in one game. Aliens, guns, women (hookers), liquor, bad singing (hilarious)... and yet he is supposed to be the all American hero. It's like Vice City, before its time.

      And unlike most games, it has definite replay value. Take Warcraft 2, how many times can you play the game before you're bored? And yet, with Duke3D, no matter how many times you play, it is soooo satisfying to pump a few shotgun shells into a pig cop.

      From what I've read on 3DRealms (DNF), they keep adding features (skeletal animation, etc.). But by the time they go "Hey, we're done", a new engine is out. So they swap to the new engine add a little more, wash, rinse, repeat. It does not help that Duke3D's following is so great that anything less than an incredible game will land them in trouble.

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    4. Re:3D Realms? by tspilman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually i bet it's Ritual.

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    5. Re:3D Realms? by jabberwocky_rt · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unlikely...

      The developers at 3drealms have more than once said that they wil NOT be using the doom3 engine.

      They swear up and down that they're "closer" to finishing the new engine.

      check out the forums for more info
      http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/postli st.php ?Cat=&Board=UBB10

  8. Linus by chinton · · Score: 5, Funny
    [Hollenshead also notes that an as yet unidentified developer with 'a name that people recognize' has licensed the Doom 3 engine.]"

    Linus is incorporating cool stuff into the next kernel.

  9. Life After Doom? by scifience · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be completely correct, there would be no "life after doom."

    doom n.
    1. Inevitable destruction or ruin.
    2. Fate, especially a tragic or ruinous one.
    3. A decision or judgment, especially an official condemnation to a severe penalty.
    4. Judgment Day.
    5. A statute or ordinance, especially one in force in Anglo-Saxon England.

  10. maybe it's EA by Fo0eY · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any chance that EA is finally making that "The Sims: Burn in Hell" I know we've all been waiting for?

    1. Re:maybe it's EA by writermike · · Score: 5, Funny

      No no no no. They're reviving the Carmen Sandiego series!

      Where in The Fuck is Carmen San Diego -- Search for Carmen through the world's most nortorious brothels and bordellos for the slut of sleuth.

      Where in The Hell is Carmen San Diego -- Search through Hell's levels for Carmen. Special Guest Star Pope Nicholas III. Comes with a copy of Dante's Inferno to help guide you.

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  11. Life after Doom? by spellraiser · · Score: 3, Funny
    Is there really such a thing?

    I thought it was just a myth ...

    No one I know personally has had much of a life since the release of Doom III. :-/

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  12. Maybe "Quest"? by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I know id had begun working on a medieval style game called Quest when Carmack decided he wanted to do DOOM3 and they switched gears.

    Maybe they'll give that another shot.

    1. Re:Maybe "Quest"? by gphinch · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think he may be too late on this one, as a far superior Quest has already been released.

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  13. Trinity? by mfh · · Score: 4, Informative

    JC hinted that this was the case in one of his recent comments on /. and I think that we may see the Trinity game they were looking at doing after Quake 2. That would totally rock!

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    1. Re:Trinity? by LowellPorter · · Score: 2, Informative

      Trinity is/was the code name for the Quake 3 graphics engine and not a different game.

  14. The recognized developer is... by ZipR · · Score: 2, Funny

    Epic Megagames.
    You heard it here first.
    Uhh, I mean, you read it here first.


    I'm totally making this up, like usual.

  15. Re:The really scary part of Doom 3 by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Resident Evil? I can't say that I have much experience with the game, but I enjoyed the movie.

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  16. Re:Whats next for the maker of Doom, Quake and Wol by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 5, Funny
    Daikatana II

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  17. My life after Doom 3... by Bull999999 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I constantly look around my office to see what objects will make a good weapon incase the portal to hell opens up at my work.

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    1. Re:My life after Doom 3... by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      But more importantly, make sure you have duct tape, something they don't seem to have around the year 2145.

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    2. Re:My life after Doom 3... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      I constantly look around my office to see what objects will make a good weapon incase the portal to hell opens up at my work.

      If you have any good ideas, I sure could use them right about now.

    3. Re:My life after Doom 3... by Bull999999 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have a Sendmail book that you can use to bore the demons to death.

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    4. Re:My life after Doom 3... by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 3, Funny
      If you have any good ideas, I sure could use them right about now.

      Find Alyson Hannigan and Sara Michelle-Geller . . . Fast!

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    5. Re:My life after Doom 3... by phraktyl · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you have Alyson Hannigan and Sara Michelle-Geller hanging around your office, I'd like to submit a resume...

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    6. Re:My life after Doom 3... by beta21 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just don't use my red swingline stapler

    7. Re:My life after Doom 3... by Blarfy_Snarflepoop · · Score: 2, Funny

      My office *IS* the portal to hell. Count yourself as lucky.

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    8. Re:My life after Doom 3... by chill · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have a Sendmail book that you can use to bore the demons to death.

      aka The Codex of Obfuscation? Combine that with a DVD copy of "Glitter" or "Gigli" and William Shatner's Greatest Hits and you have the perfect tools to convince the demons that this is ALREADY Hell, and they can just go home.

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  18. Re:Whats next for the maker of Doom, Quake and Wol by Fo0eY · · Score: 2

    having a garage full of italian sports cars can get even the geekiest among us laid

  19. Re:Mystery solved? by BlueCup · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think those are two seperate statements... like Raven Software has licensed the software and an as yet unidentified developer.

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  20. Life Imitates Art... by th1ckasabr1ck · · Score: 2, Insightful
    In DOOM3 you find a PDA with an e-mail from a little boy to his uncle talking about how great his new birthday present, "Quake 43" is.

    I guess id wants to generate some new IP so that life does not imitate art.

  21. Re:Something new, Something Borrowed, Something Bl by Fo0eY · · Score: 5, Funny

    I do believe they invented glorious new shades of black for use in doom3

    I really dont think they used any brown this time around, in fact I think I'd remember something that bright standing out.

  22. Movies based on video games by quarmar · · Score: 5, Funny

    "When has a movie based on a video game lived up to the game itself?"

    Pokemon: The Movie

  23. American McGee by oZZoZZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember a few years back, American McGee was invited to check out the new Doom 3 engine, and he had great things to say about the lighting. (this was only a few months after Quake 3 shipped). It wouldn't surprise me if he's the licencee, in fact, since he worked at id, and used q3a engine for Alice, it would surprise me if he WASN'T the licencee.

    1. Re:American McGee by linzeal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well check out his upcoming title Oz.

    2. Re:American McGee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can easily imagine some dark fairytale-based game with the Doom 3 engine.

      I hope it involves starwberry shortcake...

  24. of course there is always life after doom by Savatte · · Score: 5, Funny

    You respawn.

    1. Re:of course there is always life after doom by jals · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ah, a Buddhist I see. ;)

  25. MMORPG: Slashdot by macklin01 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You compete with thousands of other "nerds", who compete to have the "first post". Other, highly valued nerds, called "moderators", skew the viewing of these saids "posts" with "mod points".

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  26. And now for something completely different... by Mateito · · Score: 4, Funny
    The next id game won't be anything like the others

    Um. They've done "blowing the living shit out of Nazis" and "Blowing the living shit out of hell demons" as well as "blowing the living shit out of each other".

    So, how to make that completely different? Blowing the shit out of Cheerleaders in a slumber party? Are ID going to recreate that old Sega game?

    You frag Petunia's Pom Poms with a rocket.

    1. Re:And now for something completely different... by Dan667 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think you got the cheerleaders comment backwards

    2. Re:And now for something completely different... by Mateito · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, now that I think about the AI in Doom III, maybe a "Cheerleader" Mod isn't too bad an idea.

      All we'd need are skins, and a "Soriety Dorm" map.

      And a chainsaw.

    3. Re:And now for something completely different... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Soriety? Is that some sort of mix between sobriety and sorority? Allow me to assure you, such a thing does not exist.

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  27. Re:Ultima X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    As a joke, I once (while playing Ultima 9) thought about registering the domain "UltimaTen.com" (case change for emphasis) and start working on a fake game called "Ultimate N".

  28. That would be about year 3005 by Eudial · · Score: 5, Funny

    It has taken my machine 2 weeks to render approximately 4.3 frames of Doom 3. According to my calculations i will be done playing Doom 3 in june 3005.

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  29. Is that right by OmegaBlac · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Chris Morris of CNN Money talks to id's CEO, who tells us the next id game won't be anything like the others."
    So the next game will have an actually storyline?
  30. Life after Doom....been there by jusdisgi · · Score: 4, Funny

    But, we already know what life is like after DOOM...there's a nice fuzzy bunny and a pretty green field. Just don't pan the camera ;-P

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  31. Re:Something new, Something Borrowed, Something Bl by geekd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hollenshead: "'Doom 3' is a game that on the PC is very finely tuned. There was a lot of play balancing. The stuff that was supposed to be tense resulted in a lot of tension for players. The stuff that was supposed to be scary makes people crap their pants."

    There's your brown.

  32. Doom movie excitement by limabone · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if theater owners are prepared for the hardware upgrades required to show the movie!

  33. Zork by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 5, Funny

    My spies swear it's zork. The text has never been so tricky to read (mauve-black on taupe-black), making this one vicious game.

  34. Re:The really scary part of Doom 3 by jcenters · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Mortal Kombat movie was pretty good.

    Then suddenly, it became fashionable to bash Mortal Kombat.

    Then they made a sequel to the movie, which is such a despicably awful b-movie that every copy of it (Film reels, divx files, DVDs, VHS, Laser Discs, etc) should be shoved up the director's ass, never to see the light of day again.

    But I digress...

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  35. Re:Whats next for the maker of Doom, Quake and Wol by pHatidic · · Score: 2, Funny
    Women. Hopefully.

    Shit, you mean I'm going to need another 55 dollars?

  36. History of Doom/Quake by Thaelon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Doom
    Doom II
    Quake = Brown doom
    Quake II = Green doom
    Quake III = Shiny doom
    Doom 3 = ??? (nobody knows, we can't see anything)

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  37. Next project by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Our roots are in the horror/action genre," he said over lunch at QuakeCon, the ongoing annual fan event for fans of id's games. "That suits our tastes and talents. We're thinking about something up that alley. ... [That said], we're keeping the idea vault open. 'Quake' and 'Doom' were both basically a sci-fi game. 'Wolfenstein' was a World War II game. I'd like to try something new."

    . . . So, let's see. They've done sci-fi, with demons, in the dark. And they've done roughly present-day, with demons, in the dark.

    My theory:

    Fantasy!

    With demons.

    In the dark.

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    1. Re:Next project by ymgve · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Fantasy based on id engines? I thought Raven already had that market pretty covered..

  38. Re:The really scary part of Doom 3 by TCQuad · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, come on! How could you forget "Super Mario Bros.", featuring Bob Hoskins AND John Leguizamo!

  39. Re:The really scary part of Doom 3 by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Funny

    If it's done, wouldn't surprise me if it would become a very average zombie flick, like... mmm, Resident Evil?

    A plot summary for that movie snagged from IMDb:

    "In an isolated town named Raccoon City, the largest corporate supplier of healthcare, medical supplies, and defense technology has a secret research facility located half a mile underground called The Hive. Five hours ago the "T Virus" was "accidentally" released. Now the Umbrella Corporation has sent in a special team to contain the situation and re-take the facility. This becomes somewhat of a problem when all of the dead scientists come back to life in search of a snack."

    Yeah, sounds about right.

    Let's see the Doom 3 adaption:

    "In an isolated research facility at Mars located half a mile underground, an experiment goes awry with extradimensional demons being released. Now the UAC has sent in a special team to contain the situation and re-take the facility. This becomes somewhat of a problem when all of the dead scientists come back to life in search of a snack."

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  40. Re:John Romero by Devir · · Score: 2, Funny

    It was noted that Romero was seen on the streets begging for money to license the Doom 3 Engine to make "Psycho killer Bugs and Frogs 2".

    He's the "well known" licensor to the D3 engine.

  41. Re:Something new, Something Borrowed, Something Bl by HillBilly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Doom3 does have a plot but its not as in-your-face as other games.

    The plot is fleshed out by reading the PDA's, like what was going on before all hell broke lose etc.

    Also after the game you should take some time to think about what was going on with Swann and his body gaurd and what was Sarge's real motives were.

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  42. How about a nice game of... by Dave21212 · · Score: 2, Interesting


    How about a nice game of...

    Virtual Game Software Company ! They could take their vast experience of massive efforts to produce games, codify the processes and results (which I expect that *already* do), then create a game out of it. Players compete to hire and train the best developers, generate new 3D engines, market and devliver products. After all, everyone seems so interested in the minutia of the business as it is (seriously).

    For that matter, why not a more generic Virtual CEO, where you try to mask loses from Wall Street, lobby Congress to pass favorable laws, get the best outsourcing deals... (OK, not as much fun done that way, way *too* real;)

    Man, I should (virtually) patent that idea !

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  43. Re:Whats next for the maker of Doom, Quake and Wol by karstux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, while you're right in saying that there's still unfinished business with Doom3 (porting to other platforms, possible bugfixing), this will occupy only the "technical" part of the team.

    The art and story people should be free, and why not ask them to start dreaming up concepts for the next game?

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  44. Re:An id game I'd like to see by Araxen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Id Software is in the game engine business. It's actually where they make most of their money, IIRC.

    Making the games is just the side effect of it.

  45. Un-named Licensee = StrongBad! by da3dAlus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Look for Trogdor the Burninator IN 3D this fall!

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  46. Re:ID's roots are in the horror action genre?? by antoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That would seriously rock.

  47. Keep this one on the "down low" fellas.... by d474 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ID Software has 3 ideas they're toying with, one of which is mine!
    It's totally sweeet. Todd Hollenshead said it fits right into their plans of totally turning the gaming world on hits head. He said it was "Revolutionary!".

    You find yourself in 1980 after just loosing a Presidential Election...
    Your Mission: Travel around the world for the next couple decades negotiating world peace!
    It's called "HOPE - Agent Jimmy Carter". What'd'ya think!?!

    But, shhhhh. Don't spread the thread, dudes.

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  48. You guys are all way off, its DDR by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's obvious that Id is going to do some sort of benami. I think we can expect Id to do their own version of DDR - Doom Doom Revolution. Instead of blowing the shit out of mutants and demons, you'll have to dance yourself to Hell and back.

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