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Alien54 writes "Scientists in the US have developed a novel technique to make bulk quantities of glass from alumina for the first time. (link includes a picture of samples) Anatoly Rosenflanz and colleagues at 3M in Minnesota used a "flame-spray" technique to alloy alumina (aluminium oxide) with rare-earth metal oxides to produce strong glass with good optical properties. The method avoids many of the problems encountered in conventional glass forming and could, say the team, be extended to other oxides (see also: A Rosenflanz et al. 2004 Nature 430 761). Scotty would be pleased."

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  1. Scotty would be pleased. by inertia187 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes. It seems that he didn't pollute the time-line after all.

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    1. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by zackeller · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course he did. It just took 28 years for them to figure out the formula.

    2. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Silburn_Luke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you kidding? Where do you think these bozos got the idea from in the first place?

      I'll lay odds a burly guy with a dodgy scottish brogue was around their head office trying to use a mouse as a dictaphone not too long ago....

      Regards
      Luke

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    3. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Picass0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Double Dumb-ass on you!

    4. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by essreenim · · Score: 5, Funny

      Computer. Hello computer.
      Oh, a keyboard, how quaint.

      !

    5. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by fitten · · Score: 5, Funny

      Are you sure this isn't a time for a colorful metaphor?

    6. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Excuse me! Can you direct me to d'he nearest nuclear wessel in Alameda?

      (The amusing part about that statement is that the Russian language has no 'W' sound!)

    7. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Mick+Ohrberg · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just goes to show how many ideas mentioned in StarTrek actually come about. I guess we still have to work on that warp drive, dilithium crystal regeneration and photon torpedoes...and replicators. "Earl Gray. Hot."

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    8. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Funny

      he was later understood to have remarked,

      "A Windows Key. How quaint!"


      A Windows Key? On a Mac?!?

    9. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by jettoblack · · Score: 5, Funny

      I suggest you say "Tea." before "Earl Gray. Hot," otherwise you might end up with a flaming Duke. ;-)

    10. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "A Windows Key. How quaint!" How strange, since he was using a Mac.

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    11. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by pomakis · · Score: 5, Funny
      It just took 28 years for them to figure out the formula.

      You mean 18! (or are you posting to Slashdot... from the future! (*GASP!*))

    12. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's a 'V', not a 'W'. Moscow is really "Moskvá'. "Moscow" is sort of an incorrect transliteration we use. The reason for the name is that Moscow is next to the "Moskva" river. Wikipedia has more info.

    13. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Funny

      You forgot:

      7) Jokes usually need a grain of truth or a plausible premise in order to be funny.

      e.g. "3 girls jumped off a building. Which one hits last? The one who stopped to ask for directions!"

      That's not funny because it's a ridiculous situation with no roots in reality. On the other hand,

      "A Blonde, a Brunette, and a Red Head all jump off a building. Which one hits last? The Blond! She had to stop and ask for directions!"

      That is funny because the premise for the joke is a commonly held belief that blonds are dumb. Of course, such suppositions are often flawed and allow for an equally amusing joke that makes the exact counter point:

      "So a Blond walks into a bank and asks for a two week loan of $10,000. Dubious of the Blond's motives, the bank manager asks for collateral. The Blond replies that she could always put her Mercedes up as collateral, since it was worth far more than her loan. The bank manager agrees, and drives her car into the bank garage after loaning her the money.

      "In two weeks the Blonde returns with the $10,000, plus the $5.00 interest on the loan. As the manager returns the keys to her car, he asks, 'I did some checking while you were away. It seems you're loaded with money! Why did you need a loan for two weeks?' To which the Blonde replies, 'Where else in New York can I park my car for two weeks and only pay $5.00!'"

    14. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can't believe that no one bit on the opening! The obvious response is, "I think they're in Alameda"!

    15. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you are sending this from the future please send me the specs on how to send messages back in time. I have some interesting algorhitms I want to test.

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    16. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AviLazar · · Score: 4, Funny

      replicators. "Earl Gray. Hot."

      You would think with all that technology, and thousands of terrabytes of hard drive space that the retarded ass computer would remember Picards drink. He always gets his Earl Gray hot!. If I was him I would say "Give me my damn tea you stupid excuse for a computer. Hell even Windows remembers my preferences!" :)

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    17. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's actually why they'd say wessel - they don't distinguish the two sounds, and their "v" sound is between our w and v.

      Ah, no. Their 'V' is just like our 'V', but generally pronounced harshly. 'W' is a very different sound that they lack. They would have said "nuclear vessel", but pronounced "where" as "vhere". The problem during the cold war is that the public heard very little Russian spoken. Thus it somehow entered into common usage that the V's and W's get switched with a Russian accent. This simply isn't the case.

      A more likely reason for the confusion is that Russian has several sounds which English does not. (For example, they have a 'zsa' sound as in the name Zsa Zsa Gabor. They transliterate all J's into zsa's.) Since these sounds often serve as replacements for english sounds, many people have difficulty in distinguishing exactly what sounds were used. Thus silliness like W's instead of V's entered as a common idea of a Russian accent. No real Russian sounds like Mr. Chekov (who's name we absolutely murder in pronunciation).

    18. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Catbeller · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the name of The Great Bird, go thou and buy this month's Maxim magazine (US version). Thy wishes are fulfilled. Jolene wants us to take a peek.

    19. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you are sending this from the future please send me the specs on how to send messages back in time. I have some interesting algorhitms I want to test.

      Yes, I too have some questions regarding probability theory that I wish to test.

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    20. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Jorkapp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh, a keyboard, how quaint.
      We solved this problem with voice recognition software some years ago. The trouble is, we can't tell if the person is addressing the computer, or is simply talking about a computer. For example:

      "Computer run a level 3 diagnostic on the transporter assembly" ...would trigger the computer to run a level 3 diagnostic on the transporter assembly.

      or

      "Damn machines, I did not tell my computer to self destruct." ...would trigger the computer to initiate the self-destruct mechanism. Kaboom.

      Hopefully this problem will be fixed before Zefram Cochrane takes off in a few years.

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    21. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by SnarfQuest · · Score: 2, Funny

      As a tribute to Scotty, everyone shoule now pick up their mouse and talk into it.

      "Beam me up, Scotty, there isn't any intelligent life down here."

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    22. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by fyngyrz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Tests??? To heck with that. I have some prices on stocks I wish to check.

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    23. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wouldn't that be

      1. Recieve message from future self.
      2. ???
      3. Profit!
      4. Send message to past self.

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    24. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by essreenim · · Score: 2

      Damn machines, I did not tell my computer to self destruct." ...would trigger the computer to initiate the self-destruct mechanism
      You're foregetting the password protection
      Piccard : "Computer initiate self-destruct sequence Piccard delta-phi-omicron-beta" Then Rikard would verify using his code, then I would say. "haha losers I recored that, then I would take out my voice sysntheiser. Synthesizing Piccards voiuce I would say. Computer override self-destruct-sequence, transfer all command protocols over to Ensign *blep* using their (now recorded) passwords. Once the ship is pwned I would change my password, then take the propulsion, long-range sensors and weapons systems off line using my new priveledges. All kinds of other devious sabotage would be carried out. Then I would escape in a shuttle.

    25. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 4, Informative

      A more likely reason for the confusion is that Russian has several sounds which English does not.

      I think you meant English has several sounds not present in Russian, based upon the example given.

      Russian has no consonants to depict the sounds presented by the English letters "j", "qu", "x" and "w". English does in fact have the "zh" sounds. It's just not represented by a single letter. Pronounce "vision".

      Russian can approximate all three of these letter using their own alphabet.
      x = ks (ax = aks)
      j = dzh (jeans = dzheens)
      qu = koo + vowel (queer = kooeer)
      w = oo + vowel (whale = ooayl)

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    26. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by dfn_deux · · Score: 2, Funny

      Reminds me of a Cisco Cert class I was in once upon a time. The instructor was telling us about how when he was teaching the CCIE course in Britain that one of his students kept correcting his pronounciation of the word route (rah - out) saying that the proper pronounciation was route (root). My instructor finally lost his patience and replied "WE [Americans] invented the damn thing and we will call it whatever the hell we want."
      Cracks me up everytime I think about it.

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    27. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by Izmunuti · · Score: 3, Funny

      bah, Picard wasn't a gadget guy. He couldn't be bothered to fiddle with the presets to his replicator. If you look close, it has a blinking "12:00" on one of the displays.

    28. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by pclminion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Ah, no. Their 'V' is just like our 'V', but generally pronounced harshly. 'W' is a very different sound that they lack. They would have said "nuclear vessel", but pronounced "where" as "vhere".

      Well, it really depends how long the Russian has been speaking English. I know many Russian immigrants to the US, and they invariably confuse the 'v' and 'w' sounds, and what's more, it seems like the ones who speak English better are more likely to get them confused!

      It is true that in Russian there is no 'w' sound, but a Russian speaking English does have the tendency to transpose the two sounds. Why this is, I'm not exactly sure, but as I said, there seems to be a correlation with how long they've been speaking English.

      Thus silliness like W's instead of V's entered as a common idea of a Russian accent.

      It's a common idea because it's correct. You must listen to different Russians than I do, because they confuse 'v' in 'w', in both directions, all the time. My girlfriend, whose accent is so slight as to be barely noticeable, often substitutes 'w' for 'v', and 'v' for 'w' as well. Interestingly, she only confuses the sounds for words that she isn't familiar with. For example, she would never pronounce "very" as "wery," since it is such a common word, but she might pronounce "voluptuous" as "woluptuous" since she doesn't use that word very often. The confusion goes both ways: once she asked me if I would like to go "vale vatching" this weekend. How do you defend against cuteness like that?

      I agree that the Russians have no 'w' sound but for some reason they do sometimes pronounce English 'v' as 'w'. I've heard it a thousand times, at least.

      No real Russian sounds like Mr. Chekov

      According to several Russians, his accent, although fake, is much better than some of the crap that is passed off as "Russian" in modern movies. According to the Russians I know, the Russian speech in The Hunt For Red October was particularly atrocious to the point of not being comprehensible.

    29. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm happy for the French, I really am. But you know what? I'm not French, nor do I speak it. Therefore, "rendezvous" is seriously screwed up in the English language.

      The core of the problem is that French nearly supplanted the entire Anglo-Saxon language at some point. Thus they tried to get us to adopt their idiosyncrasies rather than taking five minutes to rewrite "rendezvous" as "rondevoo". Or even better, break the word down into Latin roots and rebuild it as an English word. But noooo, it's easier to saddle the unsuspecting English with words like "attache" instead of allowing them to simply use "attachment".

    30. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You must listen to different Russians than I do, because they confuse 'v' in 'w', in both directions, all the time.

      Indeed. My wife has quite a few Russian family members and friends that we often correspond with. I have *never* heard a 'W' misused. OTOH, it may be a different class of Russians we're talking about. My wife is from a Moscow family of scientists (primarily biology). Pretty much all of them speak more than one language fluently, although quite a few have pretty heavy accents when speaking English.

      It's possible that the Russians you know are from some other area of Russia, where their accents differ anyway. Not to mention that they're likely to know less about other languages and therefore more likely to confuse proper sounds.

      The confusion goes both ways: once she asked me if I would like to go "vale vatching" this weekend. How do you defend against cuteness like that?

      Don't you love that? :-) When I was dating my wife, I used to love how she pronounced my name. Since it starts with a 'J', she'd pronounce it with a 'zsa' (you know, draw a vertical line through an X and you've got the glyph). Cutest thing ever. Sadly, her accent is now nonexistent. Seems I taught her English a little too well. :-(

    31. Re:Scotty would be pleased. by falzer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know this has been said before, but...

      1. Post tales of the future back in time to Slashdot in the form of 'predictions'.
      2. ???
      3. Prophet!

  2. woohho by obli · · Score: 5, Funny

    The whales will have a safe journey home!

    1. Re:woohho by inertia187 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I don't get is, why did they need it to be transparent for the journey home?

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    2. Re:woohho by jayhawk88 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because otherwise all that footage taken at Sea World would have been for nothing!

    3. Re:woohho by dave1791 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you know what happens to people who ask such questions?

    4. Re:woohho by basics · · Score: 5, Informative

      If I remember correctly, they did not need the clear aluminum but they did need something to store the whale in. Since they did not have any money they traded the formula for clear aluminum for the whale tank.

    5. Re:woohho by GoodNicsTken · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You make that joke, but I started thinking about my reef tank as soon as I read this article. When you go over 36" tall you have to use 5/8-3/4 inch low iron (so your fish and corals are not green) glass. If this is really that much stronger, larget tanks could be made cheaper, becuase the glass could be thinner. I wonder what the optical and strength properties really are? Anyone have more information on the testing?

    6. Re:woohho by big_groo · · Score: 3, Informative

      You're partially correct. They needed something *light* and *strong* to compensate for the mass of the whales and water. Transparent aluminum was the only material that would satisfy those requirements. I think they said that to use steel or glass, the tank walls would have been far too thick.

    7. Re:woohho by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uh, I'm going to play Star Trek nerd here and correct you.

      Scotty and McCoy went to a plant that manufactored plexiglass because plexiglass was strong enough to hold the water and whales they needed if it were thick enough. (There's one part of the movie where Scotty calculates how thick the plexiglass needs to be to finish building their tank.) Since they had no money, they couldn't pay for the plexiglass needed so instead Scotty drew up a formula for transparent aluminum in exchange for the plexiglass. Even with the formula, it would take that plant years and years to be reconfigured to produce transparent aluminum, and they say so in the movie.

      So... yes. Grandparent is right; they traded the formula for the plexiglass.

  3. Transparent aluminum foil by SammysIsland · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I can watch as the food in the fridge turns green... Ye-hah!

    1. Re:Transparent aluminum foil by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

      Now I can watch as the food in the fridge turns green

      More importantly, I can wear my improved tinfoil hat in public without getting weird looks.

    2. Re:Transparent aluminum foil by NoData · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tinfoill hat are made of tin.
      Like, duh!

      Paranoid kook n00b :)

    3. Re:Transparent aluminum foil by iabervon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unfortunately, the transparent stuff isn't very good for blocking EM radiation in the critical petahertz range...

    4. Re:Transparent aluminum foil by julesh · · Score: 3, Informative

      Tinfoill hat are made of tin.
      Like, duh!


      Unfortunately, you're overlooking the fact that tinfoil is made from alumin[i]um.

      This is largely because it is frequently used in food storage and preparation, and tin is poisonous, so isn't a good choice.

    5. Re:Transparent aluminum foil by NoData · · Score: 3, Funny

      Unfortunately, you're overlooking the fact that tinfoil is made from alumin[i]um.

      Oh yeah? Well only real tin effectively blocks the barquathian mind-control rays from the planet Booftar, that they're co-developed with the CIA and Nabisco to control the populace.

      This is largely because it is frequently used in food storage and preparation, and tin is poisonous, so isn't a good choice.


      And you believe that?! Looks like they've already gotten to you, bub.

  4. Article text, for the slashdotted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Glass breakthrough
    11 August 2004

    Scientists in the US have developed a novel technique to make bulk quantities of glass from alumina for the first time. Anatoly Rosenflanz and colleagues at 3M in Minnesota used a "flame-spray" technique to alloy alumina (aluminium oxide) with rare-earth metal oxides to produce strong glass with good optical properties. The method avoids many of the problems encountered in conventional glass forming and could, say the team, be extended to other oxides (A Rosenflanz et al. 2004 Nature 430 761).

    Glass is formed when a molten material is cooled so quickly that its constituent atoms do not have time to align themselves into an ordered lattice. However, it is difficult to make glasses from most materials because they need to be cooled -- or quenched -- at rates of up to 10 million degrees per second.

    Silica is widely used in glass-making because the quenching rates are much lower, but researchers would like to make glass from alumina as well because of its superior mechanical and optical properties. Alumina can form glass if it is alloyed with calcium or rare-earth oxides, but the required quenching rate can be as high as 1000 degrees per second, which makes it difficult to produce bulk quantities.

    Rosenflanz and colleagues started by mixing around 80 mole % of powdered alumina with various rare-earth oxide powders -- including lanthanum, gadolinium and yttrium oxides. Next, they fed the powders into a high-temperature hydrogen-oxygen flame to produce molten particles that were then quenched in water. The resulting glass beads, which were less than 140 microns across, were then heat-treated -- or sintered -- at around 1000C. This produced bulk glass samples in which nanocrystalline alumina-rich phases were dispersed throughout a glassy matrix. The new method avoids the need to apply pressures of 1 gigapascal or more, as is required in existing techniques.

    Click to enlarge
    Aluminate glasses

    The 3M scientists characterised the glasses using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy, X-ray diffraction and thermal analysis, and tested the strength of the materials with hardness and fracture toughness tests. They found that their samples were much harder than conventional silica-based glasses and were almost as hard as pure polycrystalline alumina.

    Moreover, over 95% of the glasses were transparent (see figure) and had attractive optical properties. For example, fully crystallized alumina-rare earth oxide ceramics showed high refractive indices if the grains were kept below a certain size.

    Author
    Belle Dumé is Science Writer at PhysicsWeb

    1. Re:Article text, for the slashdotted by !Freeky2BGeeky · · Score: 2

      Ok so they talk about the fact that the material is "much harder than silica-based glasses" but what is the tensil (sp?) strength. Can it keep an edge? (maybe for use in blades)

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  5. Future echoes by Space+cowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am beginning to suspect that the whole idea of sci-fi is in fact a future society time-travelling back every now and then to make a new 'Star Trek' film to nudge society onto a slightly different path :-)

    The number of Star-Trek-driven ideas that have become reality is astounding -
    • phasers. We have wireless tasers that use a laser to ionise the air then an electric current jumps towards the victim from a battery. The battery is currently an issue)
    • communicators - hell mobile phones are far better than communicators
    • voice recognition - lots available these days
    • transporters - well we've done with an entangled photon. One down, seventeen quadrillion to go. Hey, it's a start!
    • now, transparent aluminium.. someone's having a laugh!


    Ok, we're missing the big one, warp drive, but apparently we have to have a war that more or less wipes out humanity first, so I'll be happy to give it a miss in my lifetime...

    Oh yeah, FOR [insert deity]'s SAKE, STOP THE WHALING!!!

    Simon
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    1. Re:Future echoes by abb3w · · Score: 4, Funny
      Don't forget the Mark I Tricorder.

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    2. Re:Future echoes by DrCash · · Score: 2, Interesting
      communicators - hell mobile phones are far better than communicators

      Satellite phones are pretty darn close to Captain Kirk's communicator (although they're a bit pricey - I guess we still need to eliminate money before getting to the 23rd century.

      A HypoSpray for drug delivery without a needle has already been developed and used clinically during the late 1990s.

      It is a bit unusual that flat panel computer display technology did not hit the Star Trek universe until the late Next Generation series - Captain Kirk's Enterprise was equipped with CRTs and flashing and buzzing lights. But Captain Archer's Enterprise has LCD flat panels up the wazzoo,... ;-)

    3. Re:Future echoes by dave1791 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Ok, we're missing the big one, warp drive,"

      OK, I am not sure how Star Trek warp drives are supposed to work, but I remember a RPC circa 1990 called Traveller 2300 had something called "stutterwarp". The idea was this, take a starship and do the transporter trick to jump a few meters, or a couple of kilometers. Now do this at a few Mhz and you have near lightspeed with very little velocity.

    4. Re:Future echoes by black+mariah · · Score: 3, Funny

      They work by literally warping the spacetime around the vessel. This decreases the apparent distance the ship has to travel. Theoretically, warp drives are possible but if Hawking hasn't invented them yet I don't think we're going to see any for a while.

      See, that's the kind of shit you learn reading Slashdot. I'm going to go shoot myself for being a massive fucking dork now.

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    5. Re:Future echoes by Cecil · · Score: 3, Informative

      Since the NCC-1701(A) was a Battlecruiser, unlike all the other Enterprises, it is possible they just felt that CRTs were a more battle-hardened technology than LCDs.

      Welp, I guess that's it, I'm officially a Star Trek Continuity Apologist. *sigh*

    6. Re:Future echoes by clifyt · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "actually, communicators are more like radio communication ... you don't dial any number ..."

      Why more like radio?

      My email is smart enough that if I start typing the first 2 or 3 letters of an email, it can guess at who I want to send it to and be accurate most of the time. I don't need to know the email addresses of anyone involved these days unless I don't have them in my address book which is sync'd between my phone, 2 PCs and 3 Macs. All work about the same.

      So you don't dial a number, but you do say "Sulu, Can We Get A Fix On..." and the internal processing realizes that since he didn't refer to a specific Sulu, he must mean the default one and routes it appropriately.

      My Cell is smart enough that if I hold a button on the side and say the name it can dial about a dozen numbers. Battery life and processing speeds preclude it from listening all the time.

      So, are you saying that because our technology isn't very sufficient today, theirs too must be as unadvanced. I've seen attainable advancements in 10 years that make 20 years ago look like the stone ages. In another 10 years, maybe we will just speak into a phone, and it will wait until it figures out who we are talking too and route accordingly. Who knows. Maybe we will all be back to fighting wars with sticks and stones.

    7. Re:Future echoes by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's called an Alcubierre Drive. You can finish yourself off now.

    8. Re:Future echoes by justanyone · · Score: 4, Funny

      I like your list. But, what about the things we haven't invented yet?
      • Defensive shields (no, Mark Shields doesn't count)
      • Andorian Brandy
      • Warp drive
      • subspace communicators
      • reliable space probes
      • orbiting dry docks
      • artificial gravity
      • cheap fusion power
      • drugs that combat radiation sickness
      • a 'sterile field' for doing operations
      • funny little plasma torches they're always using
      • antimatter containment
      • Theme music that plays when something bad is about to happen
      • Doors that swish open when you walk towards them
      • Computers that play __3-D chess__ !
      • (People that play 3-D chess)
      • Food dispensers that assemble the food from component molecules as needed
      • Shuttlecraft that go into orbit without dropping any parts off during the ascent
      • Spacesuits that don't look like medieval suits of armor
      • Deflector shields that work on uncharged objects
      • Glasses (or contacts) that automatically fog up when looking at a beautiful foreign woman that you're destined to seduce and abandon

      Of course, I'm probably forgetting lots of stuff. Anyone have further things I've missed??
    9. Re:Future echoes by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 4, Funny
      reliable space probes
      Now how long are the voyager probes doing their thing? Quite long IIRC. I'd call that reliable.
      Doors that swish open when you walk towards them
      Never been to a supermarket I presume?
    10. Re:Future echoes by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Funny

      communicators - hell mobile phones are far better than communicators

      I hate to think what interstellar roaming charges are like though :)

    11. Re:Future echoes by bsartist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A HypoSpray for drug delivery without a needle has already been developed and used clinically during the late 1990s.

      Earlier than that. The military had airguns for drug delivery at least in '87, when I went through basic training. The trick was to hold perfectly still. If you did that, it was painless - but if you didn't, the compressed-air "needle" could leave quite a gash in your arm.

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    12. Re:Future echoes by Frostalicious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, I'm probably forgetting lots of stuff. Anyone have further things I've missed??

      Computer terminals that, when shot at, give off a massive electrical discharge, killing the operator.

      The terminal, however, continues to function. Apparently the secret is to use the operator as the electrical ground for the system.

    13. Re:Future echoes by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Kirk: Scty bme^

      Scotty: What?

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  6. Silly submitter by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    who doesn't know the difference between Alumina and Aluminum.

    What next, suggesting people use the silicon in their computers as a breast implant?

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    1. Re:Silly submitter by criordan · · Score: 2, Funny

      What next, suggesting people use the silicon in their computers as a breast implant?

      You mean like Seven of Nine?

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    2. Re:Silly submitter by dougmc · · Score: 2, Insightful
      He could easily be showing a revolutionary new lattice structure into which aluminium atoms could be arranged
      ... or he could just be pulling stuff out of his butt. It's not like the technical consultants who work for the Star Trek shows and movies are known for taking great care to make sure that the stuff in the show fits in, even to the smallest degree, with the science that we know today :)
  7. Transparent alumuinum is here... by hal2814 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...but I still can't do something primitive like use my mouse to talk to the computer.

    1. Re:Transparent alumuinum is here... by salzbrot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well you have to take LDS first, than it might work...



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    2. Re:Transparent alumuinum is here... by nosaj72 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Are you saying only Mormons get to talk to their computer?

    3. Re:Transparent alumuinum is here... by jeffasselin · · Score: 2, Informative

      LDS = Latter-Day Saints, or Mormons.

      LSD = lysergic acid diethylamide, a well-known psychotropic drug.

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  8. Begin Star Trek comments in.... by nitehawk214 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh who am I kidding, there are already a bunch of them by now...

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  9. well then there are rubies and stuff by LucidBeast · · Score: 5, Informative

    Aren't many jewels aluminum compounds?
    google search of rubies and aluminum:
    http://pearl1.lanl.gov/periodic/element s/13.html

    1. Re:well then there are rubies and stuff by Vacuum+Sux · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Certainly. Sapphire is a crystal form of aluminum oxide and it is quite transparent. For example it doesn't absorb ultraviolet photons close to the visible spectrum which make it a suitable material to have in the windows to my vacuum chamber when I want to shoot UV laser light in to it.

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  10. It's not aluminum, it's alumina. by jolyonr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Alumina (aluminium oxide) is not the same as aluminium, that's like saying that water ice(hydrogen oxide) is 'Transparent Hydrogen'.

    Alumina or corundum as the natural material is known, is found in nature as a clear mineral - different colour variations give you Ruby and Sapphire.

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    1. Re:It's not aluminum, it's alumina. by adavies42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      So basically, alumina glass is to corundum as silica glass is to quartz?

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    2. Re:It's not aluminum, it's alumina. by Ba3r · · Score: 4, Funny

      woah! transparent hydrogen! Maybe they can make superstrong containers to transport toxic dihydrogen oxide.

      I mean, after the tiger-repelling rock, I thought i learned not to misunderestimate science!

  11. in other news... by DrCash · · Score: 2, Funny
    And in a seemingly unrelated story released today in the year 2367, humpback whales are being re-released in the wild after over 350 years of extinction. Starfleet Captain James T. Kirk saved the planet from the clutches of an unknown alien probe by travelling back in time to retrieve two humpback whales to repopulate the species!

    And the rest of the story,... is available on DVD!

  12. glassish properties by basics · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As glass itself is technically not a solid but a slow-moving liquid would glass not made from silica have the same general properites as "normal" glass?

    I generally think of glass as being very inert for example. Anyone know if this would be the case if the glass was composed of differant substances?

    (chemistry maybe?)

    1. Re:glassish properties by nagora · · Score: 5, Informative
      glass itself is technically not a solid but a slow-moving liquid

      A common misconception caused by the old "spun" method of making glass which makes sheets which are thicker at the bottom than the top. People have often assumed that old glass has "flowed" into that shape. It hasn't: it was made that way. Glass does not in fact flow, not even slowly.

      Search on Google for "glass flow" for lots and lots of stuff about this.

      TWW

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  13. Yes but... by condour75 · · Score: 2, Funny

    We're so far behind on launching ubermenchen into deep space on the Botany Bay. And where's Voyager VII?

  14. Submitter - Not Silly by tonywestonuk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't Aluminum a major constituant part of Alumina? (along with Oxygen)... Seams to me that that makes the term 'Transparant Aluminum' valid.

    1. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by gowen · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, alumina has almost none of the same properties as aluminium (since you're from the UK too, I'll spell that word correctly from now on). It's extremely tough (used in drilling bits), non-conductive and non-reactive. One would expect something described as "Transparent Aluminium" to behave a bit like Aluminium. Alumina doesn't.

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    2. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by sploo22 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Pure aluminum is a metal. Aluminum oxide is not - it's like the difference between hydrogen and water.

      As I understand it, pure metals can't be transparent because light is an electromagnetic wave which gets "short-circuited" by conductive materials. Presumably the oxides disrupt this conductivity. And anyway, the alumina is combined with other oxides before being used to form glass.

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    3. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by rco3 · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, it makes the term "transparent alumina" valid. The term 'Aluminum' refers to an element, whereas alumina refers to a compound of aluminum. If you refer to the properties of aluminum (or aluminium, if it makes this easier for you), you are (or at least will be understood by others to be) referring to the properties of a quantity of essentially pure aluminum, which is transparent under no condition.

      Therefore, the term "transparent aluminum" is incorrect. Sorry.

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    4. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by PatrickThomson · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, and that reminds me, there's this horrific new danger-chemical being given to children, it's made from hydrogen, the most flammable gas in existence, and oxygen, the pure essense of burning, I mean the safety implications are enormous! stop DHMO now!

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    5. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by kcelery · · Score: 2, Informative

      As I remember, the first laser was made from a ruby rod, which is a form of aluminum oxide.

    6. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by dhovis · · Score: 5, Informative
      As I understand it, pure metals can't be transparent because light is an electromagnetic wave which gets "short-circuited" by conductive materials. Presumably the oxides disrupt this conductivity. And anyway, the alumina is combined with other oxides before being used to form glass.

      Sort of....

      A better way of explaining it would be that for a photon to be absorbed by an electron, there must be an empty higher energy state for the electron to move to (E = Eo + hv, where Eo is the energy state of the electron and hv is the energy of the photon). In solids with metallic bonding, there are many electrons floating around and many free electronic states for them to move to, so any photon that enters the solid can be absorbed by an electron that will then jump to a higher energy state (which will be free, because there are so many free energy states).

      In the case of insulating and semiconducting materials, there is a gap in the energy states, so some transitions are not allowed. For pure, single crystal Al2O3, (aka white sapphire), there are (essentially) no transitions available that correspond to the energy of photons of visible light. If you start substituting in Cr3+ ions for the Al3+ ions, your sapphire will turn red and we call it "ruby". In this case, the Cr impurities provide transitions that can absorb wide ranges of visible light, but not red light. What is more is (if this is fairly pure), the ruby will not only absorb light of other wavelengths, but it will emit red light as well. Try putting a synthetic ruby under a UV light, it will glow red.

      However, it should be noted that other defects can scatter and absorb light as well. Grain boundaries, voids, inclusions, etc. will affect your light transmittance. It has been possible for some time now to make polycrystalline alumina that is translucent (Lucalox), but polycrystalline alumina can never be transparant, so there are two ways to make alumina transparant: make it single crystal (only one grain, so no grain boundaries) or amorphous (no grain boundaries, because there is no long range crystal order).

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    7. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by aonaran · · Score: 2, Insightful

      a term doesn't need to be accurate to come into common use.

      Think of these examples:
      Pensylvania Dutch (not dutch)
      Mountain ash (not an ash)
      mountian lion (not a lion)
      american buffalo (not a buffalo)

      Just because a name is born of ignorance doen't prevent it from becoming the common name for something.

      I could see how the Transparent Aluminum of Star Trek is a mislabeled transparent alumina rather than a physics defying metal.

    8. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Funny
      Isn't Aluminum a major constituant part of Alumina? (along with Oxygen)... Seams to me that that makes the term 'Transparant Aluminum' valid.

      I tend to agree: I prefer to say that the cars I had in high school were built largely out of "Brown Steel".

    9. Re:Submitter - Not Silly by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I remember seeing a demonstration on conductive polymers, and I immediately took notice of the fact that they had a metallic sheen to them. The same properties that lead to conduction also lead to the reflective properties of metal.

      If you just want something transparent that is very durable, you can use something like this alumina technology, or even something crazy like panes of diamond glass or something like that (I'm not sure how strong diamond glass would be, but I'm guessing pretty strong).

      On the other hand, a true transparent metal would have lots of desirable properties that none of these materials have. Metals are malleable and ductile, conduct heat well, can withstand stress by deforming, and conduct electricity. All of these properties have to do with the metallic bonds between metal atoms, and consequently they are incompatible with being transparent. That isn't to say that you can't make a nonmetallic material that can transfer heat, or which can bend - but it wouldn't be by the same mechamism as how a metal works.

      I always loved metallic bonds simply because they are such an elegant demonstration of how a microscopic property such as chemical bonding leads to macroscopic properties like conductivity and malleability.

      For those who want to know more, almost any general chemistry textbook will have a short section on metallic bonding which describes how they work and why they lead to these properties.

  15. science inspiring sci-fi inspiring science... by Ubergrendle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the great things about sci-fi as a thematic backdrop (be it literature or movies/tv) is that it alone of all the genres has the possibility of inspiring a tangible effect upon the real world.

    I remember an interview with James Doohan where he said his greatest pride that came from his career was that he inspired other people to pursue careers where they could make a difference to the world. How many engineers became engineers or went into sciences because of Star Trek?

    I'm familiar with the Arthur C Clarke suggesting satellites; I doubt a similar cause/effect with Star Trek IV happened here. However, the similarities are cool, and at least with this genre there is the POSSIBILITY of changing the world for the better.

    PS Fortunately such transitions from sci-fi fantasy to real world are few and far between. 90%+ of tv SF and pulp SF is dreck, and I myself and not looking forward to a Brave New World...

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    1. Re:science inspiring sci-fi inspiring science... by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The movie Galaxy Quest illustrated what you're talking about.

      A recent example is the Alcubierre warp drive. A general relativist took a break from computing the gravity fields of real objects to ask himself whether there was any way to create a field with the property of allowing faster-than-light travel.

      Heinlein gave another example when he testified to Congress about space program funding. He got his stroke surgery from a surgeon who excelled at having patients survive. The surgeon did so well because he'd invested in good equipment. Heinlein (engineer at heart) studied all the equipment that was saving his life and found that he could trace it all to space program spinoffs. And what do you think the 1960's NASA engineers read when they were growing up?

      >it alone of all the genres has the possibility of inspiring a tangible effect upon the real world.

      I'm sorry to quibble with an insightful post but that's too absolute a statement. "Uncle Tom's Cabin" influenced history.

  16. and Bones and Scotty can look for a whale tank by evil-osm · · Score: 2, Funny

    .. oh... joy.

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  17. 10 bucks to the first company.... by d3ity · · Score: 2, Funny

    10 bucks goes to the first company/person to make me a case out of this stuff.

  18. He didn't use Transparent Aluminum for the tank. by AzrealAO · · Score: 2, Informative

    He traded the formula of Transparent Aluminum for sufficiently strong plexiglass for the tank.

  19. The missing ingredient for an invisible plane! by kamelkev · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wonder woman would be all over this... this is the missing ingredient for the ever elusive "invisible plane".

    Seriously though, this has crazy applications. Imagine all the things you could make with this stuff:

    Windshields that bend instead of crack, providing protection during an accident

    Pairs of glasses that won't break

    No more broken windows because the kid down the street hits a baseball at your house.

    There seem to be virtually limitless applications, assuming the optical properties are similar to that of glass, which the article alludes to.

    1. Re:The missing ingredient for an invisible plane! by dykofone · · Score: 3, Informative
      It has similar optical properties, but probably not similar mechanical properties. It's Alumina first off, which is a ceramic I believe, but thinking of the way it's formed, you can see where it would have similar properties to current glass.

      Take a metal, and cool it off very rapidly, and it becomes very hard but also very brittle. Cool if off fast enough apparantly, before the atoms have a chance to properly align themselves, and it becomes transparent, which is what happens with Silica to make glass. They just found a way to cool off Alumina fast enough. Problem is, what gives metal its characteristics are the very nice, orderly arrangement of atoms bonded in sheets, so that it can remain strong while also bending before breaking.

      I don't think this is anything other than a cool way to make glass out of something else, perhaps something stronger, but nowhere near as cool as a material resulting in clear body panels on a car, or clear coke cans.

    2. Re:The missing ingredient for an invisible plane! by tgd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are falling for the assumption that transarent alumina compounds are, in fact, transparent aluminum metal. Lots of gemstones are transparent alumina compounds, too. Rubies, emeralds, etc. They do not bend.

      I am not a chemist, but I believe the condition of the material to allow shifting of bonds that allows metals to bend without breaking is nearly the opposite of the condition present in glass. Ie, alumina glass may be stronger, but it will not bend.

    3. Re:The missing ingredient for an invisible plane! by merlin_jim · · Score: 2, Informative

      Take a metal, and cool it off very rapidly, and it becomes very hard but also very brittle. Cool if off fast enough apparantly, before the atoms have a chance to properly align themselves, and it becomes transparent, which is what happens with Silica to make glass. They just found a way to cool off Alumina fast enough.

      I'm a jeweler and metalworker. Metal phase transitions are my speciality.

      First off let me say that neither silica nor alumina is a metal; they are (respectively) the oxides of silicon and aluminum. Metals have mostly empty outer shells which is what causes their impressive conductivity, hardness, and quite a few other properties.

      The oxide of a metal has its outer electron shells completely filled; it is no longer metallic in any way.

      However you are right in that the quenching is key. The important part is to cool it off quicker than crystals form. A crystal structure is like an electromagnetic net, allowing the material to catch photons. No crystals, no net.

      Actually, each crystal is more like a filter; crystals typically are polarized in special ways. If you have lots of small crystals throughout a material (star rubies are like this), then each one only lets some of the light through; the more layers you have, the less light gets through. Enough of them and absolutely zero photons can make it through the set of polarization filters.

      Oh and regards metal heating...

      Metals form grains in their solid state; small areas of material that are atomically aligned, similarly to a crystal. When a metal splits or bends, it tends to split or bend on grain boundaries.

      A material with large grains tends to be hard but brittle; a force large enough to break the grain boundaries tends to cleave it straight through. We call this state "tempered" A material with small grains tends to be soft and flexible; it can bend without breaking. We call this state "annealed"

      Most materials will work harden; as you bend and flex the material, grains tend to aggregate together as the opportunity arises. Take a sheet of dead soft copper and start bending it back and forth; it'll quickly become hard on the bend line, then snap in two. You could probably do the same with a paper clip if you have one handy.

      When you heat up a material, you add kinetic energy and dissolve the grains. If you quench it rapidly, it'll stay in this small-grained state. If you quench before it gets that hot, you'll lock it into a large-grained state... the grains actually grow as you heat it, because you're adding kinetic energy enabling the atoms to adhere to the grains. Most metals have a particular temperature where the grains are the largest, after which they rapidly dissolve.

      Jewelers know not the temperatures but the colors. If I make a steel tool and I want to temper it I heat it until straw-yellow, then quench it. If I want to anneal it, I hold it at cherry red for ten minutes then quench it. With silver, the temper heat is in the infrared and the anneal heat is dull red.

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  20. Why not link to... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why not link to the article on transparent alumina as well? Though it needs a slight update, mind you.

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  21. Re:Dammit, i wanted to RTFA by gwizah · · Score: 2, Funny

    Scotty (speaking to server): Computer...Hello Computer!

    Capt. Kirk: Scotty...We need more usr req's!

    McCoy: It's dead Jim.

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  22. Computer mods? by CodeMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where are all the crazy modders?

    - Transparent aluminum case
    - Transparent hard drives
    - Transparent power supplies
    All without voiding your warranty ;-)

    And for military uses - the sky is the limit (really - think about it...)

    Get a free ipod [it really works - my buddy just got his... should have believed it earlier ;-( ]

  23. Transparent ALUMINA by caffeineboy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is nothing new - it's called corundum or as you more probably know it, sapphire (or ruby when it is red).

    And hard is only one part of the story. Glass is hard, yet I wouldn't want to make structural elements of an aircraft from large hunks of glass... Aluminum is light and Tough (high energy to break). It is also ductile (deforms before breaking) something that no ceramic is...

    So, while this is cool, and will probably be used for super scratch proof layers on spyplane camera transparencies or something like that where they can afford something like this, it isn't what you think it is.

    As an aside, translucent alumina is used in something you see everyday - sodium vapor lamps use alumina to encapsulate the sodium metal that they use as their filament.

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  24. Not Liquid by Benm78 · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is some debate, the scientific consensus at the moment is that (ordinary) glass is NOT a liquid. Wikipedia has some interesting background info on this discussion.

    In general, the composition of glass makes a huge different in properties such as hardness, inertness, transparancy and color. In ordinary glass, CaO is added to lower solubility in water and various other solvents.

  25. Very, very, very slow by dexter+riley · · Score: 4, Informative

    Glass may flow, but it does so very very very slowly. As in "age of the entire universe" slowly.

  26. yes, but... by dyfet · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is it region coded? In 2367 can one finally get a region free dvd?! And, finally, what everyone wants to know is, did the copyright on mickey finally expire?!

  27. impeccable timing by MORTAR_COMBAT! · · Score: 2, Funny

    Star Trek IV was on CBS on Saturday night. I stayed up to watch the transparent aluminum scene -- who knew the real thing was coming just 2 days later?

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  28. Tin-foil hat by craigmarshall · · Score: 2, Funny

    Woohoo! This means I can build myself a covert tinfoil hat!

  29. Re:Communicator by jaredmauch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can't remember where i read about it, but it must've been here.. there are actually IP Phones made by one company that are wearable. Their primary market is hospitals. Ah yes, a quick google found me the product link.

  30. purdy pieces! by nanimo · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Attractive optical properties" must be nerd talk for "pretty"...

  31. No, it's an amorphous solid. by Cadre · · Score: 5, Informative

    Seems a couple other people beat me to rebuking this, but I figured I'd throw another link in just in case there is any lingering doubt.

    Glass is not a liquid. Glass is an amorphous solid.

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  32. RTFA Editors by pertinax18 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Transparent Aluminum Is Here

    NO IT ISN'T! Commercially developed transparent Alumina (think clear ruby/sapphire) is here, HUGE difference. Sorry Trek fans, you will have to wait longer. There will be no clear planes, no clear cases made of Alumina. If cases were transparent Alumina then they would have the same properties as silica glass and you would have a nice greenhouse effect going on slowly (or not so slowly) frying your computer.

    Alumina is a mineral/glass/ceramic, Aluminum is a metal!

    1. Re:RTFA Editors by Luk+Fugl · · Score: 2, Informative

      Transparent Aluminum Is Here

      NO IT ISN'T! Commercially developed transparent Alumina (think clear ruby/sapphire) is here, HUGE difference...

      Alumina is a mineral/glass/ceramic, Aluminum is a metal!

      Well, technically,
      Alumina = Aluminum Oxide (Al2O3)

      Although aluminum oxide is a main component of ruby and sapphire that's not what alumina is, primarily. If you have something made of aluminum, just expose it to air and you'll soon have a coating of alumina on the surface.

      The alloy the article talks about is 80 mole % (that's 80% by quantity of atoms, not by weight) alumina, so it is mostly alumina, or oxidized aluminum.

      Yes, it's not a transparent metal, but I'd say that calling it "Transparent Aluminum" would be within reason.

      Jacob Fugal

  33. No he wouldn't! by geeber · · Score: 3, Funny

    Rosenflanz and Gildenflurn are dead!

    sorry, go ahead mod me down. I couldn't help it!

  34. PowerBook by "Zow" · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somehow, I get the feeling that Apple is going to use this for the next gen of PowerBooks.

    (It's a joke -- all the materials scientists don't need to correct me.)

    -"Zow"

  35. I sence a great disterbence in the force.. by sjwt · · Score: 5, Funny

    As If a million Startrek geeks cryed out in joy.

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  36. Re:Humm by Artifakt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, except for tense. We have already been making synthetic rubies and blue sapphires under laboratory conditions for at least 50 years now. Google for "synthetic ruby" if you dare.

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  37. Refraction index by Florian+Weimer · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the article in Nature:

    Similarly, when the grain size is maintained below the scattering limit, the fully crystallized Al[2]O[3] REO ceramics exhibit attractive optical characteristics including high refractive index (1.8 and higher) and transparency through the mid-infrared range.

    Cool. Finally something to tackle the 1.8 barrier, and smaller glasses for me. 8-)

  38. Transparent Alumina by dl107227 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sure it's been said but bears repeating.

    If you have a high quality watch it is likely that the crystal is made from polycrystalline alumina (i.e. corundum...in this case synthetic corundum). The alumina glass is different however in the fact that it is a glass and therefore lacks crystal structure.

    Since it doesn't have to be crystallized it is likely that it will be able to be produced in large sizes. However, being a glass it is not going to have the malleable properties of aluminum metal and will probably shatter if hit hard enough.

  39. Re:Feeling stupid by Stephen+H-B · · Score: 3, Informative
    This may help. Pascals are a unit of pressure equal to one newton per square meter. This is roughly equal to the weight of 100g spread over one square meter.

    One atmosphere = 1 bar = 780 torr/mm mercury = 101.3 kilopascals.

    Hence 1GPa is about 10000 atmospheres.

    These kinds of pressures are not (too) difficult for research labs but industry goes all queasy above about 500 as these pressures don't scale well.

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  40. "Making large sheets of ruby and sapphires" by anactofgod · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now that's a headline I'd get excited about.

    I'd love a pair of sapphire-lensed sunglasses.

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  41. Sounds like a good plan for optical disks by MyDixieWrecked · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I once knew a guy who had this great idea to use aluminum oxide on DVDs and CDs to prevent scratching. He said the disks could be bulletproof, scratchproof, and unbreakable, although I think he was exagerating...

    If that was the case, that would be an AWESOME application for this. Although the MP/RIAA would see that as a reason for preventing backup copies of your media. I mean, if the disk can't be damaged, why would you need a backup? Although you could still lose it or have it stolen...

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    1. Re:Sounds like a good plan for optical disks by mikael · · Score: 3, Funny

      I once knew a guy who had this great idea to use aluminum oxide on DVDs and CDs to prevent scratching. He said the disks could be bulletproof, scratchproof, and unbreakable, although I think he was exagerating...

      I could just imagine the crime scene:

      Police Officer: Can you describe the person who attempted to raid the bank?

      Witness #1: Yes, he was covered in head to toe with CD's glued to his clothes.

      Police Officer: Can you give me any further details?

      Witness #1: I think the CD's had words on them "AOL trial account - 14 days free service".

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    2. Re:Sounds like a good plan for optical disks by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Informative
      Although the MP/RIAA would see that as a reason for preventing backup copies of your media. I mean, if the disk can't be damaged, why would you need a backup?

      An indestructible CD? The *AAs would hate that, and would never use them. People buying replacements for scratched and broken discs are a big market for them!

      Oh, and no, you're still not entitled to make a backup, peasant!

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  42. Should we leave all of the Star Trek jokes... by Myrmi · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...or shall I just punch up clear?"

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  43. Re:You are such a geek... by jameskojiro · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Answer is:

    Plexicorp

    I wanna cookie now!

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  44. Colorful by einhverfr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After all sapphires are basically alluminum oxide too....

    Are these windows amorphous like glass or crystaline like sapphires? (Assuming amorphous, but not sure).

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    1. Re:Colorful by Vincent+Galliard · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The article refers to them as alumina glasses, so, uh, "amorphouse". A glass is by definition not a crystal.

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  45. Shouldn't we be doing something... constructive? by Riff6809 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Rosenflanz and colleagues at 3M in Minnesota" One of those colleagues wouldn't happen to be named Guildenstein, would they?

  46. Never understood that. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Funny
    It's *TEA*, it's *supposed* to be hot! Why the un-necessary "Hot" at the end of Picard's request?


    Presumably he had a run of bad tea-machine experiences like this:

    "Tea, Earl Grey." <sip> "Awww fuck my old boots, it's half-cold and stewed you fucker"

    1. Re:Never understood that. by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the south, tea is supposed to be cold and sweetened. I don't drink tea, but everyone else here drinks the hell out of it.

      -B

    2. Re:Never understood that. by Hard_Code · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Tea, Earl Grey." "Awww fuck my old boots, it's half-cold and stewed you fucker"

      Oh man, what I wouldn't give to actually hear Jonathan Stewert proclaim that!

      MAKE IT SO BITCH!

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    3. Re:Never understood that. by Xentor · · Score: 5, Funny
      Oh man, what I wouldn't give to actually hear Jonathan Stewert proclaim that!
      *cough*Patrick Stewart*cough*

      Come on, what kind of geek are you? :)
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    4. Re:Never understood that. by Wehesheit · · Score: 3, Funny

      Patrick Stewart you stewed fucker

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    5. Re:Never understood that. by Clueless+Moron · · Score: 2, Funny
      I always assumed that at some point, somebody spilled their tea on their crotch, got a nasty burn, and sued the bejeesus out of McDonalds^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H the replicator manufacturing company.

      And so, after that, all replicators were programmed to only serve warm tea, unless the user specifically asked for "hot".

    6. Re:Never understood that. by TheGavster · · Score: 3, Informative

      At some point in the first season, there's a whole scene about Picard trying to get a decent cup of tea from the replicator. The 'hot' bit is *very* critical.

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    7. Re:Never understood that. by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      Jonathan Stewart? Is this some freaky future episode where Jonathan Frakes (Riker) and Patrick Stewart (Picard) have a son together?

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  47. Time-line by dodongo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, at least we can have comfort that here in a couple hundred years when they go back and introduce transparent aluminum to some guy in San Francisco in the mid-80s, they're not going to disrupt the timeline too terribly much.

  48. Hello, Computarrr ... by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 2, Informative
    Guess there are more places on the net but this was the first site I found which hosts the famous scene from StarTrek IV:

    http://www.theapplecollection.com/Collection/ AppleMovies/mov/scotty.html

    Be patient, QuickTime movie takes a while to load.

  49. Another /. dupe! by lscotte · · Score: 3, Informative

    This news should not be surprising to anyone, since it's essentially a dupe! http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/2 0/0358206&tid=126&tid=14

    The amusing thing, is that American scientists are given credit here, but if you look at the original article from 2+1/2 years ago, it was the Germans who discovered it. Hmmm...

    You could argue that this article is just a 'refinement' of the previous article. I could believe that only if a link had been provided to the original article. Ah well... Odd that the article itself doesn't mention previous work by the Germans either...

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  50. That's great, but... by ZipR · · Score: 2, Funny

    I still can't talk to my mouse. How long do I have to wait for that?

    1. Re:That's great, but... by TheDigitalOne · · Score: 3, Funny

      Go ahead, you can talk to your mouse all you want, you only need to get worried when it starts answering you... more so when it starts winning the arguments.

  51. Re:What we really want to know by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Informative

    Eyeglasses are an obvious application. This stuff should be both harder and stronger than silica glass.

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  52. Another /. dupe! by lscotte · · Score: 5, Informative

    This news should not be surprising to anyone, since it's essentially a dupe! http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/2 0/0358206&tid=126&tid=14 [slashdot.org]

    The amusing thing, is that American scientists are given credit here, but if you look at the original article from 2+1/2 years ago, it was the Germans who discovered it. Hmmm...

    You could argue that this article is just a 'refinement' of the previous article. I could believe that only if a link had been provided to the original article. Ah well... Odd that the article itself doesn't mention previous work by the Germans either...

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  53. "transparent concrete" by peter303 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I read some comprehensive article on "transparent concrete", probably the NY Times Sunday Magazine, but cant locate the reference. There are several related articles on Google. Concrete is seeing a resurgence as a decorative material, i.e. wall and floor coverings. Theres many ways to modify it to have more attractive decorative properties if you willing to sacrifice some structural strength. Concrete is inexpensive and easy to manipulate.

    A more accurate term is translucent concrete. One guy embeds perpendicular optical fibers so some external sunlight gets through. There are other techniques too.

  54. Remote sensing by Anders+Andersson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Remote sensing technologies, used to indicate the presence of living bodies onboard an approaching spaceship, as well as the composition of their alien atmosphere. What do we have? X-rays and spectroscopy, both dependent on electromagnetic radiation and a clear line of vision, and we still wrap christmas presents in paper for a surprise effect... Give the kid a tricorder, and there will be no point in wrapping any more gifts for him!

    Also, I love the work they have done on galactic standardization, allowing instant video and audio communication between species that have hardly ever met before. What protocol do they use to agree on frame rate, aspect ratio and colour coding? Not to mention their translation and interpretation services. Someone ought to explain their identification of weapons signatures too; do different munitions have some kind of encoding or does the identification rely on their physical properties only?

  55. Real medical Tricorder, with Paramount approval by fibonacci2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    phhtbtb - I had an add-on for my Palm that did weather.

    These guys (IGEN, now Bioveris) even licensed the name from Paramount.

    http://www.biospace.com/news_story.cfm?StoryID=379 5304&full=1

    "IGEN's TRICORDER is a self-contained diagnostic detection module ideally suited for hospital POC testing. It is based on IGEN's proprietary ORIGEN(R) technology, which enables high-value clinical testing, including immunodiagnostic and nucleic acid probe-based measurements."

  56. alumina windows by andrewagill · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Changing the material of the windows is unlikely to help unless you incorporate the material into the design of the building. The windows are likely going to be designed for easy access and replacement, so it's unlikely to add to the structural integrity of the building unless they are actually designed to do so.

    As to fires, the problem is that if alumina is stronger, it'll be harder for the firefighters to break the windows to let smoke out, gain access to portions of the building, or rescue people (I can't imagine watching people clawing at the windows from inside as they slowly burn to death, while you're helpless to stop it--or maybe I can, but just don't want to).

  57. Re:You are such a geek... by KlomDark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Even weirder, back in the early 1900's, a man named Harold Warp (Now somewhat famous for starting a huge museum called Pioneer Village in the middle of Nebraska) invented a way of heat bending of plastic glass (Called Flex-O-Glass. The more commonly known 'Plexiglass' is a copy by a later competitor once the patent expired.) that retained its optical properties. This process became known as "Warping". At about the same time, mathmaticians were stumbling across the basics of the time-space continuum, and borrowed the term to refer to bending time/space.

    The main street in Minden, Nebraska has now been renamed from "Brown Avenue" to "Harold Warp Memorial Drive" (Which most people refer to now as "Warp Drive"). A friend of mine lives on Warp Drive, which is kinda cool to a geek like me.

    So they did the original creator of "Warping" a disservice when they wanted to obtain Plexiglass instead of Flex-O-Glass.

    (Yah, I went to high school in Minden... :) )

  58. I'm surprised... by saddino · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...Anatoly Rosenflanz was still able to get Scotty's formula off his original Macintosh after all these years.

  59. What I love about Slashdot..... by ericlakin · · Score: 2, Funny

    ....is the fact that a reference to Scotty at the end of a post about transparent aluminum is understood with a group "nod and smile".

  60. Re:You are such a geek... by Wehesheit · · Score: 2, Informative
    Plexicorp

    scotty asked for plexiglass that was 60 feet by ten feet and able to withstand the pressure of 18,000 cubic feet of water. To which the plexicorp guy replied "thats easy, 6 inches"

    I'd like my super geek medal now please.

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  61. *I* sense a great disturbance in... by whats_a_zip · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your spell checker!

  62. Not exactally by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You forget water is more then just hydrogen..

    And the idea of a ruby being transparent aluminum + some coloring also fits the bill for the sought after properties.. Its one of the hardest known substances known to man..

    its also reproducible in the lab.. perhaps not in 'sheet' form, but it would have been a good starting point for research into a practical method of mass production.

    Even if you were correct, and water was just hydrogen, that's still a far stretch, while my example is pretty damned close to the desired material..

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    1. Re:Not exactally by Entropy2016 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You've completely missed my point.

      "You forget water is more then just hydrogen.."

      That is my point!
      Aluminum-oxide is more than just aluminum.

      Twice now you've referred to this material as a transparent-aluminum.

      My point is that it's not aluminum.
      It is aluminum-oxide (aka, Alumina).
      This isn't about color additives.
      One is a metal, the other is a ceramic!

      Knowing this, go back and re-read my first post and then you'll understand what I said a little better.

  63. transparent al by damned_in_davis · · Score: 2, Funny

    hurray! now noone will be able to see my aluminum hat!

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  64. They invented??? Sure...... by ninji · · Score: 2, Informative

    I remember reading about this years ago....

    Heres an article that has a link to one of the original article i read http://www.rense.com/general20/transparentalum.htm

    Did zi germans invent first?

  65. Re:You are such a geek... by canajin56 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not quite true. Harold Warp did invent Flex-O-Glass, and there is a Harold Warp Memorial Drive. But his last name is a coincidence. Warp has meant to twist or bend something for hundreds of years. It originates from the old english word "weorpan". In 1346 it was used as a weaving term. (When weaving, you start with lengthwise threads, the "Warp" and weave the "Woof" perpendicularly across it). In 1440 the word Warp was first recorded as meaning to twist out of shape.

    This is not the only coincidental last name. I'm sure many are familar with the inventor of the ball and suction device, still used in toilets today. His name was Thomas Crapper, but "crap", meaning defication, had been slang for at least 50 years before he invented the toilet. And it has meant general refuse for a great deal longer than that. The sirname Crapper originats in the 13th century, and is a variation of "Cropper", an occupation sirname, like Cartwright, Smith, and so on.

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  66. Re:Not a Dupe by kettch · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm not where I can get it, but I have the images from the original article, and the stuff they made back then was not very good optically. Not only have they figured out how to make lots of it, but their technique is better.

    The picture in this article is kind of small but it looks like, even though some of the glass isn't perfectly transparent, it is still clear. Rather than being cloudy it is just colored. One looks like it would be great for tinted windows.

    The old images are very cloudy and rough looking.

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  67. Scotty missed a great oppertunity. by Toby_Tyke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just think, he could have patented this in the 80's, then turned up 300 years to file for damages and 3 centuries of back dated licensing.

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  68. message from future; patent!; profit!; ... by FlippyTheSkillsaw · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Recieve message from future self.
    2. Patent Everything!
    3. Profit!
    4. Send message to past self.

    You see, it's really not that hard to get rich.

  69. I found some pictures of it. by Mike+McCune · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here are the scientist creating tranparent aluminum -
    Creating Tranparent Aluminum

    and here is the final product -
    Tranparent Aluminum

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