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The Product Marketing Handbook for Software, 4th Edition

Daniel Shefer writes "If you want to make money by selling your software, it has to be marketed, promoted and then sold to the customer. Doing this is not as easy as it may sound. The Product Marketing Handbook, 4th Edition details the ins and outs of the aspects of software product marketing needed to make this happen." According to Shefer, "this is a great book if you want to market your product and get it sold"; read on for the rest of his review. Even if your software is free (as in speech, or as in beer), this book may offer insights in persuading people to try it out. The Product Marketing Handbook, 4th Edition author Merrill R. Chapman pages 690 publisher Aegis Resources rating 9/10 reviewer Daniel Shefer ISBN 0967200865 summary A great guide to marketing, promoting and selling software.

Rick Chapman is also the author of In Search of Stupidity: Over Twenty Years of High-Tech Marketing Disasters (previously reviewed on Slashdot.) He is also the publisher and editor of Soft*Letter and the Software Success Newsletter. The Handbook presents today's best practices based on Chapman's extensive experience, and includes up-to-date information on everything from advertising to OEM agreements, pricing to visual identity.

The book offers practical insights into vexing product marketing-problems. Throughout the book, Chapman gives relevant, down-to-earth descriptions of how to (and how not to) plan and deliver product-marketing efforts. There are case studies from every aspect of the high-tech industry, as well as detailed lists of dos and don'ts.

This is a great, safe place to learn about marketing, distributing and selling software before putting your own time and money at risk; the Handbook includes comprehensive checklists to help manage the product-marketing process. (These lists are also provided on a CD that accompanies the book.)

The text starts with an overview of some changes the software market has seen since the book's first edition. Chapman focuses on one of the most significant changes since then and discusses the rise of open source computing and Linux. He then continues to the book's raison d'être with a brief discussion of why software companies fail.

The first chapter covers market research. Before spending resources on writing code, it is always best to know if there is a real need for the product, and what other companies are up to in the intended market space. The chapter starts with an overview of several research techniques such as conjoint analysis, focus groups and competitive intelligence.

The next chapter discusses some of the hardest issues in marketing software: positioning, pricing and naming. A great example, the OS/2 debacle is a classic study in how not to name or position a product.

These chapters detail how to position a product, how to brand it, and how to price it so both you and your sales channels can make money off of it.

Chapter 3 discusses channel distribution. Channels are the organizations that move a product to the customer. First, you have to decide if you will provide the product as an ASP or shrink wrapped. In the latter case, selling the software requires a logistics backbone that small independent software vendors (ISVs) may not be able to afford. While some software packages can be successfully sold using online channels exclusively, these are the exceptions. Other ISVs have to utilize distributors, VARs, store chains and catalogs to move their products. Getting these channels to distribute the product is not as easy as sending them a copy and expecting them to "see the light." It takes a good understanding of the channels' business models and capabilities (as well as hard work on your part) to get to the point where a customer sees your product in a CompUSA or a printed catalog. Channels have to be located, contacted, convinced, trained and constantly supported to make this happen. This chapter also covers OEM and international distribution issues.

The next chapters discuss collateral advertising (brochures, white papers etc.), PR, advertising and sales promotions respectively. While none of these are rocket science, getting them wrong is a costly proposition. In addition to the effort involved and their cost, there are legal implications as well. For example, not properly estimating the return rate of a rebate coupon or making an inaccurate claim in a piece of collateral can land a company in hot water. Most ISVs outsource these activities to experts, but even doing that successfully requires at least a general understanding of these topics.

Chapter 8 discusses direct marketing. Some of the topics covered in this chapter are direct mailings, infomercials, telemarketing, mailing lists and fulfillment.

Chapter 9 covers software bundling. Bundling is where companies offer two or more products as a bundle. You're almostly certainly familiar with this from the way companies like Amazon offer two related products for a slightly better price then their combined prices. How and why to bundle are explained in this chapter.

Chapter 10 discusses the topics Internet marketing. In theory, the easiest way to market a product these days is over the web. One creates a website, submits it to Google and Overture (Yahoo!), and presto, there are visitors who buy the product. It's not so simple,though: The problem is luring potential customers to the website, keeping them there, and leading them to purchase the product. This chapter covers designing and optimizing websites as well as managing discussion groups, list servers and online ad campaigns. Another important topic is search engine optimization (in simple English, getting your website to the top of the Google and Overture Results pages). The text includes many dos and don'ts on how this is done.

Chapter 11 discusses trade shows. I don't think highly of tradeshows (see the rightful demise of Comdex) but if you decide to go down this road, here's how to do it properly.

Chapter 12 discusses sales methodologies and strategies. It opens with the trick question that most people get wrong: What is the number one reason that software companies fail? The correct answer, of course, is "not enough sales."

There are inherent reasons that you are a developer writing code or a sales rep doing sales. There are the basic character traits that make each of you good at what you do. I'm not saying that as a developer you can't sell. You may be able to -- but probably not as well as a seasoned sales rep. As with other issues, you will need to understand the dynamics of the sales process so you can create a product that makes it easier to sell. This chapter will introduce you to basic concepts such as the pipeline, prospecting and, the software selling cycle. It will also take you through the multiple steps of complex sales cycles which are a painful part of selling large systems. But, as bank-robber Willie Sutton supposedly said, that's where the money is. No less important is the discussion of negotiation and presentation techniques.

The last chapter in the book gives a brief overview of product management and the processes involved. While relevant and accurate, I would defer to other texts on the subject for a more thorough discussion of product management. See, for instance, Software Product Management Essentials by Alyssa S. Dver, or The Product Manager's Handbook by Linda Gorchels.

The book includes three appendices: A product marketing cost matrix, a product marketing resource directory and a product marketing timeline, and ends with a glossary and index. Attached to the book is a CD which includes all the checklists that are dispersed throughout the book as well as several sample files.

The Handbook's depth and breadth as well as the author's experience make it the best book on product marketing I've encountered.

Reviewer Daniel Shefer is a Software Product Management expert and has written numerous articles on this topic. The Product Marketing Handbook, 4th Edition is available only through the author's website. For more about product marketing see: www.ProductMarketing. com.

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  1. OS/2 debacle by MikeMacK · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A great example, the OS/2 debacle is a classic study in how not to name or position a product.

    Yes, it's a great example of why you should be very cautious when working with Microsoft.

    1. Re:OS/2 debacle by Gr8Apes · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Marketing had nothing to do with OS/2's success or failure. If you actually study the OS/2 debacle, you learn the following:
      • do not commit to long-term licenses of components at extravagant rates (HPFS was reputed to be $87 per OS/2 copy sold)
      • do not attempt to run another company's software on your system when that company also owns the underlying competing framework without an ironclad contract of said competing company's support for your platform. (Office and Windows - MS finally broke OS/2's support of Office by requesting a memory allocation at the 2GB barrier, OS/2's VM only allowed for 512MB per process)
      • Just because you were hit with anti-business practices in one category, don't pull back entirely from pushing for contracts with vendors (Dell, Gateway, Compaq), leaving the field entirely open to MS's strong-arm tactics.

      I'm sure the list goes on much longer, but those are some of the highlights that truly brought OS/2 to its knees in the battle against MS. Not being able to run Office 97, and the inability of Office 97 to be backwards compatible with previous versions forcing large-scale upgrades (yes, I worked for the military back then, and when the admiral gets a shiny new PC with the latest and greatest Office on it and starts sending out Word attachments, you better be able to read them....).

      I'm sure there's much more, but OS/2 failed for some bad decisions on IBM's part in licensing contracts, and some underhanded tactics on MS's part forcing sole distributorships while simultaneously forcing upgrade cycles. None of that hides the fact, however, that for all intents and purposes, a 10 year-old copy of OS/2 still smokes the latest from Redmond in almost every way technically.

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    2. Re:OS/2 debacle by smchris · · Score: 2, Informative

      Your points are generally on target. But it was demonstrated that vendors were too afraid of Microsoft to carry OS/2 as well. Sort of hosed without vendors. And they couldn't really do a Windows 95 compatible OS/2. They had license access to Win 3.1 code, but look how long it took Codeweavers to come up with a tie-in to the 32-bit API.

      But there were marketing mistakes too.

      1. There was the OS/2 version that worked with an existing Win3.1 install and there was the "full" version that contained WinOS/2, the IBM rework of the Microsoft source. Unfortunately, they named the former version "OS/2 for Windows". "FOR" Windows?? What is OS/2 -- a Clippy add-on or something? I contend to this day that "OS/2 'for' Windows" was a stupid name.

      2. I never saw them but Dvorak wrote that there were airport billboards saying that "OS/2 will obliterate your hard drive!" Duh?

      I suppose it could also be considered a marketing mistake to have an advanced OS that needed 8 meg to run when your competition needed a base 4 meg. Reagan decided to go medieval on Japanese RAM manufacturers and show them what protective tarrifs really looked like around the time OS/2 was developing nicely. RAM was expensive back then.

    3. Re:OS/2 debacle by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Funny
      You gave an example of OS/2's 512MB per process limitation and then you claimed OS/2 beats the latest Microsoft OS every way technically. Seems to me you are contradicting yourself.

      Yes, Microsoft Office 1997 was truly a technology leader, blowing away all other personal productivity apps by requesting memory addresses above 512MB in the process address space. This was especially ahead of its time, given that most computers back then only had 64MB or less physical memory.

      With the vast address space utilized by Office97, it was the first software that enabled the masses to write truly enterprise-class memos, emails and status reports. Only recently have competitors like KDE and Gnome piled enough bloat into their code to even approach address space utilization at this world-class scale.

      Windows95 + Office97: Slinging those addresses with bit 29 set high and proud. No wonder they left all the other OSes and office suites in the dust.

      With 64-bit Windows and the next version of Office just around the corner, who knows what heights of memory space allocation we'll be able to reach with Microsoft in the near future!

  2. Stupid pitch. by BoomerSooner · · Score: 5, Funny

    How to market your over priced book on Slashdot for free.

  3. Mac Software by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's only one thing you have to know for Macintosh software:

    http://www.versiontracker.com

    I'm serious here. Mac software products live and die by their rating on VersionTracker. Tucows is similar for Windows software, but it just doesn't have the near 100% of users pull that VersionTracker does.

    Oh, and one more hint. Since most people see your software while it's on VersionTracker's front page, release early and release often.

    1. Re:Mac Software by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Informative

      Versiontracker is a horrible-looking pile. It is fairly popular, but I find that the majority of my downloads come from MacUpdate, which also has the virtue of being a lot easier to use and a lot nicer to look at. That said, both places are very important for Mac software.

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  4. Marketing Don'ts: by Lieutenant_Dan · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Animated paper clip
    2. Catchy slogan like "John Rxxxxo will make you his bitch"
    3. Customizable color scheme
    4. Map of Kashmir in a different color from India AND Pakistan
    5. "Built for OS/2"
    6. "Now known as Napster"
    7. "Drew Curtis' xxxx"
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  5. Marketing books. by iamdrscience · · Score: 4, Funny

    In my limited experience, marketing books are usually not very useful. I assume this is because marketing people are better at marketing their book about marketing than they are at writing a good book. Which of course is understandable.

  6. If I've learned anything. by SirStanley · · Score: 3, Funny

    If i've learned anything from the tech industry. If you simply say "Linux, Database, Synergy, and dot com" anywhere in the product description you'll instantly make millions in the stock market and not need to actually sell your product.

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  7. Lawyers, marketers and politicians. by cortana · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yuck, marketing. Right up there with Lawyer and Politican for 'most fundamentally corrupt occupation'. 99% of the job is to trick people into buying shit that they neither want nor need.

    I can't stand adverts these days--and I live in the UK, where advertising is relitively subtly. I think if I ever returned to the US I would die from an overdose.

    1. Re:Lawyers, marketers and politicians. by Jungle+guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      That is advertisement, not marketing. Imagine you are the head of marketing for a company; and the main product is not selling much. You make a marketing research, and discover that costumers don't like the product for 3 reasons. With that information, your company can take two actions:

      1. Change the product, to adapt to the user's needs. You can also make some advertisements to alert people these changes were made.

      2. Accept the shitty product made up by engineers and developers, and try to fool costumers with advertising.

      Marketing is only a management tool, and advertisement a tool for marketing. As any tool, it can be used the bad way.

  8. Looks interesting by r.jimenezz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Especially chapters 4 through 7. Albeit, judging from the review, the contents of some other chapters seems to be obvious, to say the least (Internet marketing, Web site optimization...) I guess the business bits are what developers are missing, not the technical ones! Then again, image is quite important and most of us devs only really care about internal structure, good design, etc. Seems like the book deserves spending some hours reading it to find out about those topics and whether they're obvious or not.

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    1. Re:Looks interesting by cachorro · · Score: 2, Funny

      Everybody loses interest when they get to chapter 11.

  9. Marketing is Job 1 by grunt107 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As MS as shown, a good marketing strategy most often trumps a better product.

    Books like these are good reading for sftwr designers. Some are obvious (determine product focus and need thereof), and including the flops definitely helps.

    Much like the Linux marketing tends to be on the we're the good guys/we're free like beer.

    Apple may have been much bigger than they are if the "We're just better" message resonated better than the fire-sale prices of early-MS ('like nickel beer night vs. Ballpark beer prices')

  10. Dead meme by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The software business is already oversaturated with people trying to sell code. Its a dead end, and this is why every diversified IT firm is going into services and why MSFT can't get above $30 to save its life.

  11. More to it by XanC · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The linked article is fascinating; it actually doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft.

    Apparently the OS/2 betas used Star Trek names "Klingon", "Ferengi". When IBM decided to make "Warp" the official name of the product and launch it with a spacey futuristic marketing theme (right down to Patrick Stewart), Paramount got ticked and IBM dropped the space theme.

    This was a problem. Without a cool futuristic concept tied to the word and the product, IBM had to rely on the traditional meanings of the word. Like "bent." "Twisted." "Warped" out of shape. And other, less conventional meanings. For instance, if you were alive during the 1960s (if you remember the 1960s), "warped" was something you became after ingesting certain substances that time and experience have shown to be bad for memory recall and possibly your genetic heritage.
  12. Rules by rtkluttz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rule #1: Marketing people are evil.
    Rule #2: Even though they are necessary, Rule #1 is always true.

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  13. Missing Topics - Costing/Funding and Retailers by mykepredko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe it's not obvious from the review, but I would have thought that a big part of a software marketing program would be costing out how much the campaign will cost along with a dicussion on different methodologies for raising additional funds for paying for advertising, booths, travel, giveaways, etc.

    While the focus seems to be on direct sales, I would be interested in seeing Chapman's comments on dealing with retailers. I have a bit of experience with the issues of dealing with retailers and would have liked to understand how to respond to how the retailers (Best Buy and Radio Shack specifically) carry out test marketing in their stores as well as helping underlings pitch your product to their management.

    myke

  14. Re:Really... by robslimo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's say you're starting out small, like working out of your spare bedroom, and your working capital is whatever is left over after paying your monthly bills. Sure, that method is not usually your ticket to the bigtime, but it can be a foot in the door. It *could* turn into a thriving business, building its own capital for expansion as it progresses.

    In that case, yeah, I'd go for the book. I could afford that, but couldn't afford "outsourcing" it. I think it would help. The time for the self-starter with no capital and no connections selling software may have waned a bit, but with the help of the web, it's still possible.

  15. Marketing a Marketing Book. by Vague+but+True · · Score: 3, Funny
    Read part of it...Sounds like a marketing book aobut marketing, or is it marketing a marketing book?

    Wonder if they read the book while writing it?

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    I'm not a doctor, but I play one in bed.

  16. I have this book... I sell software... by cjustus · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ... And I agree with the reviewer... It's sitting on my desk now... Just about finished reading it cover to cover... Refer back to the existing chapters often... Some really good advice... We will be passing it around, and everyone will have a baseline in terms of marketing discussions, just as a book on software patterns give developers a baseline for design discussions...

    2 caveats - the graphs/diagrams at the beginning look like photocopies of photocopies... kind of strange... and another curious thing is that when I got it in the mail, it smelled like tacos, but the smell is gone now :)

  17. The Dinosaurs of Selling Software Live On by RonBurk · · Score: 5, Insightful
    While some software packages can be successfully sold using online channels exclusively, these are the exceptions

    That pretty much assures me the author does not know what he's talking about. The vast majority of software packages are sold exclusively via the web. They are mostly Windows software, mostly small companies (<10 people, skewed towards the 1-man band), and mostly make such a modest amount of money that the author should perhaps be forgiven for not noticing where the bulk of the software market iceberg lies.

    If you want to really learn about selling software, join the ASP and talk to the little guys who (cumulatively) are making most of the software that gets sold in the world today.

    Disclaimer: I'm a member, but I (alas) make no money for telling people to join :-).

    1. Re:The Dinosaurs of Selling Software Live On by ragnar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I suspect the author is considering the broader software market, which still involves a bit of customization for client installations. For example, if you are selling software for 50k to automotive dealerships (a niche market) you probably would yield few online sales.

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  18. Re:Lol by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's happening now, didn't you read that article on what Red Hat has to do to "succeed" the other day?

    The summary: To succeed, Red Hat has to posture itself to attract more investors.

    Forget attracting customers, who needs customers? We only want investors! And forget having a product or service that you can exchange for revenue. Nope, these .com whiz-kids actually count on VC as "revenue".

    It makes SCO's "sue people for money" business model look intelligent.

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  19. SCO Version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The SCO edition of this book contains nothing but lists of copyright attorneys and their phone #'s.

  20. Good and Bad by Nuttles · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I view this from a software developer point of view. This book is good and bad. It is good because it helps a programmer get the whole picture and in that may have a better understanding of his/her role. It is bad if a programmer uses a book like this for anything more than just a clearer picture of how things work. I have never met a great programmer that could also be a marketer of software. I am not saying it can't happen, I am just saying that I have known and do know a lot of programmers, the great ones would tend to find marketing software as boring and un inspiring. If you are a bad programmer, think about a career in marketing...it will make the programming area much happier.

    Nuttles

    Saved by Grace

  21. Re:Really...Outsourcing marketing not safe by RexDart · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Even if one has money or access to money (access? sounds sinister... whose money are you accessing?) and plans to hire outside expertise, knowing about marketing is important for a variety of reasons.

    First is simply understanding what's involved. Routinely, engineering types (I speak from experience) underestimate the effort and focus required to take a widget and convince someone to buy it. Having a brief understanding of the problem will allow for better project planning, bugeting and preparation, greatly speeding time to market.

    Furthermore, if a marketing group's strategy and focii do not align with the prodct company's, such a mismatch is unlikely to produce a smoothly-running marketing campaign. Knowing enough about marketing to understand what marketers do (and evaluating how well do it) will allow you to select a provider and manage their efforts effectively. If the product company won't manage those wild-eyed creative types in marketing (who throw facts to the wind and revel in vague hype-speak; again, I speak from experience), who will? They will likely end up managing more than one would like, or else they give up in frustration; neither option will sucessfully increase business.

    Finally, paying attention to marketing (rather than just the 'it's done, throw it over the fence' attitude commonly evidenced) is a proactive, agressive stance that helps eliminate factual, technical and tactical errors which can lead to costly reprints, embarassment in the marketplace, poor reception and possibly litigation due to misrepresentation.

    As a marketing hack, I absolutely rely on the informed input of our engineering staff. I take time to learn the product so I can represent it fairly. The good ones in engineering take the time to learn what my group does so that they can support the work. The better our partnership is, the better represented the product is. One could almost graph it as a linear relationship.

    To many, marketing is almost as unpalatable as politics, but it's a necessary evil. Knowing the rules and order of the game can be the difference between a sucessful, profitable experience and unmitigated, bank-draining disaster, no matter which group of over-dressed Powerpoint-wielding mercenaries is hired to do the dirty work.

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  22. Marketing for geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here is some great marketing information based on the "22 Immutable Laws of Marketing" that has been adopted towards software, by an ISV. This is a windows-centric company, but still good info:

    http://software.ericsink.com/laws/Immutable_Laws _M arketing.html

    (There is also a PDF download on this site)

  23. Re:Oh Really? by StevenHenderson · · Score: 3, Funny

    For example, I "outsource" my cooking to HotPockets, as I have no knowledge in that area. Laundry, however, is something that I can handle, and therefore, take on myself.

  24. Key to Software Sales by Skjellifetti · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In my experience, software companies (probably true of many other industries as well) fail because they are trying to sell kewl technology instead of selling a solution to the customer's problem.

  25. Marketing is easy by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    All you have to remember is to deliver enabling technologies to your human resources in order to facilitate the concurrent development of an upside-down, inside-out, flat organisation that harnesses the synergy of the valuable employees in their various capacities with a view to consolidating the company's empowerment in all areas of the marketing mix so that ........

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  26. Warning: author may be linked to the reviewer by westendgirl · · Score: 4, Informative
    I looked up Daniel Schefer's website. He has written several articles for ProductMarketing.com. If you look up that site, you'll see that ProductMarketing.com is sponsored by Pragmatic Marketing. And who is Pragmatic Marketing? Well, it's a company that provides training seminars -- and they list Aegis Resources among their alumni. Aegis Resources is owned by Merrill Chapman, the guy who wrote the product marketing book. And Shefer (reviewer) and Chapman (author) seem to show up together in Google a few times.

    Now, I can't be sure, but it sounds like Slashdot published a carefully placed success story. I work in marketing, and I can't say I blame Shefer or Chapman. But I've never seen such a blatant placement on Slashdot before.

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  27. Re:Dead meme? Wake up MeMe by abigor · · Score: 2, Funny

    I really should try crystal meth sometime.

  28. problem was way before - installs, printer support by bobalu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real problem was that nobody was pre-installing it, and IBM was also trying to push their own bus architecture on the PS/1, and people got confused about that too.

    It was not hard to install if you knew what you were doing, but it could be impossible if you didn't.

    Also, IBM just assumed all the printer and video companies would put out drivers, and they didn't. The smart thing would've been to PAY them and ship 'em with the package, but that didn't happen. So even if you got it installed it was entirely possible you wouldn't be able to get a decent printout or use your video card to the max.

    The printing fiasco was a real shame, because Presentation Manager gave you great support for fonts, shearing, a lot of cool stuff. DeScribe was a really decent word processor/layout package.

    I ported a DOS control system to OS/2 V1.3, and it rocked. Ran on a 25Mhz 386 with 8M of RAM, 50 threads, named pipes and shared memory between control processes and a separate graphics display, and it was solid as a rock in power plant conditions.

    Now it sits next to my Amiga. :-)

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  29. This is an understatement. by FlutterVertigo(gmail · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The stories (not just UL|FOAF) are rampant. Basically, "take our offer, or you'll face us a competitor."

    You also have to be careful (in Olympic lingo) "synchronized software development". Once the partnership is over, guess what's on their drawing board?
    These should be considered using the word "together - a simple quiz for those who have been around for some time.
    n.b. No google- or wick-cheaing!!! The answers should be clear enough.
    1) Microsoft & IBM work on a windows-like product together what happened when they parted ways?
    2) Microsoft & Sybase worked on a DBMS together. What Microsoft product arose when they parted ways?
    3) Microsoft signed a contract to consult with Compu$serve to help them shore up their operations, etc. What online service arose when that contract was over?
    4) When the specs for OLE2 were released, Microsoft was left in the dust. A company named Shapeware wrote a software product which was fully OLE2 compliant -- something Microsoft didn't accomplish until much, much later. (not unlike the fact many of their products do not make the same standards they hold 3rd parties to. Microsoft was in the process of writing a competitive product and decided to shop outside. What was that product?

    I'm certain others can add - I'm just going to stop here so I'm not hogging the microphone.

    \ As far as the naming conventions go, in the 10-15 years ago range, this was a common statement to those who were trying to make a move to OS/2:
    DB/2, OS/2, PC/2
    Half of a database running on half an operating system running on half of a PC.

    Gotta love the peanut.

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  30. you know how it goes.. by js3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    if you want to make money, write a book about how to make money

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  31. Re:Warning: author may be linked to the reviewer by dshefer · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dear "westendgirl",
    I would like to point out the following:
    1. I paid THE FULL price for the Handbook.
    2. I NEVER received anything of monetary value from Pragmatic Marketing for the articles I posted there.
    3. I added a disclaimer to my review to clarify the relationship between Chapman and myself. It seemed to have been dropped by mistake during the posting process. I asked the editor to look into this. Specifically, I stated that I offered my comments to the Handbook's chapter on webinars. I was not paid for this advice in any way.
    Sincerely,
    Daniel Shefer