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Hobbit Hole + World Class Fallout Shelter

ChaosMt writes "Slashdot has covered buying missile silos before, along with buying old microwave bunkers to provide the ultimate level of data protection. Making your own Hobbit hole has been covered too. Now you can have it all in the best shelter I've ever seen (even beating the Subterranean Fortress) in an undisclosed location outside of Durango, Colorado. It may not be your cup of tea, but it is very impressive to see and compare to your own disaster planning."

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  1. Secure but ... by mmarlett · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... it doesn't handle Slashdotting.

    1. Re:Secure but ... by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder how well the Ultimate Secure Home handles an internal fire caused by a burning webserver.

    2. Re:Secure but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Apparantly even http packets cannot penetrate this fortress.

    3. Re:Secure but ... by dejamatt · · Score: 5, Informative
  2. Paranoia by CaptainBaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, these guys really are preying on your fears, aren't they? Remember all the nutjobs who ran for the hills in the middle of all the Y2K panic? That was funny enough, but pushing this kind of place, on the vague premise that 'there hasn't been a virulent epidemic for a while now', is just silly...

    1. Re:Paranoia by BoldAC · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On a related subject and much more practical...

      Did you know you can get a stormproof room in your house?

      We were recently building a new house and our contractor said for $3k he could make a "safe room" for us.

      I let him do it...

      So when the next hurricane/tornado comes, the only things left in the house will be my family and my servers. :)

      AC

    2. Re:Paranoia by someme2 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease is suspected to be passed to humans from cattle and other animals that have Mad Cow Disease. [...] Nor is there proof that the diesaes spreads between humans.

      Very true! I think we can dare to go a step further and say: Nor is there proof that spread of a disease that you get from eating cows can be prevented by hiding in an underground bunker complex.

      Also, my favorite part is the end of the article:

      Because of the owner's illness and major surgery, the house is currently being offered at only 65% of the actual building costs.

      So, go buy it! Play it safe!!! Don't risk illness!
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      You can attach boosters to anything. It just costs more. -
      Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 07, @12:26PM
    3. Re:Paranoia by TheMeuge · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually there is proof. A little while ago, I microepidemic of the Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease broke out when surgeons at a hospital (kill me, but I do not remember where exactly) operated on a person who had advanced neurological problems. They found damaged brain tissue, but the diagnosis was never made. Several years afterwards, patients with CJD started coming in. The final conslusion was that it was transmitted by the medical team who were re-using some of the equipment. The medical equipment was sterilized by autoclave, according to the procedure, but because prions (the objects responsible for CJD) are very stable proteins and contain no genetic material, sterilization at 120C couldn't destroy them. One thing you're right about though - CJD poses no real epidemiological threat at this point. I do agree with the general sentiment - there seems to be a lot of fear-mongering going on. Many people clearly want us to be afraid. The trouble is, they're not totally wrong! Many countries have developed bioweapons, since they are much cheaper and easier to hide than nuclear weapons, and certainly easier to develop. There are dozens of modified versions of the pneumonic plague with engineered resistances to many antibiotics. And let's remember that pneumonic plague is pretty much 100% lethal without adequate treatment. Furthermore, there is no real effective vaccine against it. No one was worried about the Russians using it against the US because the infection would likely spread worldwide before the epidemic would be recognized. But I doubt that the people we're facing now would care. So those who think that the threat of bioterrorism is a joke should probably re-evaluate their view of the world. With this in mind, everyone living in densely populated urban areas should have a plan that all the family members carry, with agreed-on meeting points in case communication is impossible, as well as detailed directions for getting out of the area by foot. This, along with a few gallons of water, some power bars, and a medical kit, are probably not a bad idea.

    4. Re:Paranoia by Davak · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm a doc but don't hold me to any details. :)

      I remember the story differently... I thought it was transplanted organs, but looking through the journals it looks like we are both right. Hmmm...

      Here is some quotes I can find:
      "Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease is one of the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSE) that has been transmitted between humans and chimpanzees by electroencephalogram electrodes, previously 'sterilized' using ethanol and formaldehyde." -- J Hosp Infect. 2004 Sep;58(1):78-80

      It can be spread through blood transfusions...

      Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease following corneal transplantation Same article

      Davak

    5. Re:Paranoia by stienman · · Score: 5, Informative

      Typical cheap safe rooms consist of simple 2x4 frame with a layer of 1/2 plywood, then a layer of 16 guage steel.

      A 2x4 at hurricane velocity might breach both the steel and plywood, but it would generally splinter and lose any and all useful energy by the time it gets through - and that's assuming it had enough energy to even make it to the room since it has to go throgh some regular walls/windows/siding/furniture/etc to get to the safe room.

      So yes, such a room can be built cheaply and still have more than adequate protection.

      See what FEMA has to say about safe room construction. In particular safe rooms cost between $3,000 and $5,000 depending on the type you build and where it is situated. It's much cheaper to build it when the house is built than later, so I can easily see a cost of $3,000 for an average safe room.

      -Adam

    6. Re:Paranoia by Illserve · · Score: 3, Funny

      So when the next hurricane/tornado comes, the only things left in the house will be my family and my servers. :)

      You'd let your family into your server room?

      I mean, I know it's a hurricane and all but.... some things you just don't do.

  3. Right. by Zebra_X · · Score: 4, Funny

    cleverly hidden 550 cubic foot root cellar is roomy enough to hang four elk quarters in and has large shelves for other food storage

    Yes, becuase my FIRST thought was to use the room for hanging elk meat.

  4. Who needs one... by flycrg · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...when you can just duck and cover?

    1. Re:Who needs one... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...when you can just duck and cover?

      Because, when Nuclear Armageddon comes, there may not be enough ducks for everyone.

  5. Slashdot wasting no time preparing for apocalypse by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only a few hours after a mushroom cloud was seen at the border of China and N. Korea, the people of Slashdot are looking for fallout shelters.

    Considering the batshit-crazy Kim Jong Il still runs N. Korea, maybe that's not such a bad idea after all.

  6. Time for Teletubby Bye Bye by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Blech! I expect to see LaLa jump out of that hole in the ground.

  7. Article text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Ultimate Secure Home

    Home front
    The artificial rock front blends in perfectly with the natural environment

    Some years ago, the owners of this property had a log hunting cabin in another part of Colorado. Beautiful, yes, but the wood construction posed numerous problems. Several "near-miss" incidents made the family realize how vulnerable the cabin was to any number of disasters and threats. A winter storm, which blew the front door open, might have caused the water pipes to freeze and break, flooding both the upper and lower levels, resulting in many thousands of dollars damage, had it not been discovered in time. A forest fire, which started when a tree fell on the above-ground power line leading to the cabin, came frighteningly close to the wood structure and to within just a few feet of the above-ground propane tanks. A hailstorm necessitated a new roof, a new paint job, and major repairs to the siding. The large front glass windows were spared from damage, but nevertheless were extremely vulnerable. And finally, when the cabin was broken into and many valuable antiques were stolen, the owners decided to look for a safer kind of structure for their retreat, and a better, more remote location.

    After spending 2 ½ years studying every kind of alternative home construction, everything from earthships made out of spare tires, to rammed-earth construction, to monolithic domes, they ultimately realized there was only one kind of construction that would afford them the kind of security they wanted: an earth home (made with Formwork's patented thin-shell concrete construction technique). The house they finally built is not just any earth home. It is what has come to be known in the industry as a "secure home." It is an unparalleled model of the ultimate secure home. Its many features will amaze you.

    While the term "secure home" is still relatively new to the general public, this unique segment of the home construction industry has, for the past decade, been growing steadily, albeit slowly. Presently, with the increased threat of major terrorist attacks, many more people than ever before are building secure homes. Also, more contractors and consultants have recently dedicated themselves to the concept of disaster-resistant and self-sufficient residences. It is only with a realistic understanding of the potential for terrorist attacks, and the magnitude of the problems they could cause, that one can truly recognize the value of a secure home.

    This patented steel-reinforced concrete earth sheltered structure, properly called a thin-shell dome, is built to withstand almost any natural or man-made disaster you can name. And that's not just an idle promise. These buildings have withstood tornadoes, hurricanes, and earthquakes - some measuring over 7.0 on the Richter scale - and in every case they have come away with no structural damage at all. Unlike monolithic domes, and all other types of home construction, only Formwork's concrete domes can be completely buried deep underground.

    The house has 2472 square feet, with an additional 800 square feet in the attached 24' x 36' underground garage. The main floor of the house consists of a large living room, two bedrooms, two baths, a kitchen, pantry, and laundry closet. Upstairs is a loft and two multi-purpose storage/sleeping rooms. The house currently has ten beds in seven different rooms. There is lots of additional space for other cots or bedrolls. A 22' long x 6' wide hallway leads to the garage. This hall is lined on one side with 18" deep shelf units, providing a considerable amount of quick-access storage. The other wall of this hall is a convenient place to store larger items, such as skis, bicycles, or a vacuum cleaner, that wouldn't fit on the shelves. Additionally, a large storage attic is found above the garage.

    The living room's high-domed ceiling gives the room an open, spacious feeling. A custom steel stairway leads from the loft to a cupola perched on top of the house. Light from the cupola gives the sa

    1. Re:Article text by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Funny

      No .50 cal automated turrets ?

      You call that safe ??

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      May contain traces of nut.
      Made from the freshest electrons.
  8. Paranoid to the extreme... by MacBorg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I mean, I've always liked the idea of having a bunker-house, but when it's this nuts, it's a little overboard. And the page-author is full of dung (vis. the follwing quote) "If the phone lines are ever down it will not be possible to get news via the internet." What century are they in?

  9. I'm safer than that guy in his sad cave.. by jyristys · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..And live in the center of a city.

    In Finland. I for one welcome any scared slashdotters.

  10. Google cache by Peter_Pork · · Score: 4, Informative

    The "best shelter" site is already down. You can try Google cache

  11. I like the Cold War house by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not because I think it's especially necessary, but because it's just really neat. I mean, if people insist on consuming resources for silly things you gotta admit an underground radiation proof hidden house is a lot more interesting than these thirty million dollar celebrity mansions.

    This a) doesn't label you as a target for people looking for easy money and b) let's you live out those childhood fantasies of having a fort to retreat to (and to be honest, don't we all wish we could disappear into our own basement fort and vanish from the world once in a while?) Plus, there's always that 0.0000001 chance it might actually come in handy due to an event like it was designed for. Not a war probably, but suppose some terrorist sets off a nuclear bomb nearby? Not only would such a place be useful in ducking away from fallout, but unlike a full scale nuclear war a terrorist attack is worth surviving because there's still a world left over to come out to.

  12. Score... by EvilGoodGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    If that doesn't scream either hobbit or smurf to you, then you are crazy. If only I weren't a poor college student.

    1. Re:Score... by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Funny

      If that doesn't scream either hobbit or smurf to you, then you are crazy.

      Smurfs live in hollowed-out mushrooms.

      The kind of mushrooms the creator took before he came up with the concept I believe ;-)

      --

      You can't take the sky from me...

  13. Remove the cause, not the consequence by Mr+Europe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I feel strongly that it would be more worthwhile to try to remove the cause for a nuclear holocaust than building shelters like this.

    But in US: act in the peace movement and youll probably be judged as a terrorist/communist or something antiamerican.

  14. What about actually getting there? by spiritgreywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Many of the sites I read about this talks about how state-of-the art protection can be out in the middle of nowhere, but _getting_ there during a national crisis is another.

    The worst kind of biological exposure is one that has a decent incubation period then nails you later in the blink of an eye.

    You're either already exposed getting there, in which case you bring it with you, or include pointers and tips on how to cover yourself by getting to the safehouse without being exposed - something missed by most pundits on this issue.

    When CNN screams, "We're being bio-attacked!", you get to jam yourself amongst the thralling masses trying to get away? Not good...

    --
    Never have a philosophy which supports a lack of courage
  15. how about above ground by Riggs+E. · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For a truly awesome construction alternative, check out http://www.monolithic.com/gallery/homes/ Energy efficeint, structurely superior, and highly affordable. Not to mention one helluva conversation piece!

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    ------ Send your whines to /dev/null
    Frankly, I just don't care . . .
  16. I grew up north of Durango... by gardyloo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What people have to remember is this:
    Denver, CO is set up to be the next Washington, D.C., in case the latter ever gets wiped out. Norad is based in Colorado Springs. Both of these potential targets are quite far to the northeast of Durango. The closest strategic targets I can think of are really Denver, Colorado Springs, Kirkland AFB in Albuquerque, and Los Alamos, White Sands, etc. in NM, and maybe some proving grounds and bases in Utah and Nevada. Durango is NOT a target, but it's kind of in the middle of these other, good targets. You'd expect to get a bit of fallout there from a large-scale attack. Having a fallout shelter is GOOD, I suppose, if you're worried about that.

    In addition, Durango is one of these "new Aspens", where college students hang out, there are a lot of older locals (ranchers, Navajo, people who showed up before the '70's, mainly), and so forth, but there are a LOT of VERY rich people around (WalMart heir rich; 4th richest in the US rich), who can afford these kind of eccentric houses (and seem to get off on living in this gorgeous place, and ruin the whole atmosphere at the same time because then no one else can afford to live there ).
    Finally, a lot of people hunt in Durango (and all over the mountain West). It's the kind of thing where you get a few days off in the fall to bag an elk or bear. So the guy's comment about elk hindquarters, although strange to a lot of people, are very common to people from the Rockies.

  17. Two different episodes by phillymjs · · Score: 3, Informative

    You're thinking of "The Shelter," from the 3rd season of the original Twilight Zone.

    The other poster apparently has in mind "Shelter Skelter," from the new Twilight Zone series that aired in the 80's.

    In "The Shelter," everyone knew about the guy's shelter. In "Shelter Skelter," only the guy's wife and small children knew, plus a friend he happened to tell the day the accident happened (who he locked in with him). His wife didn't tell anyone because the guy had become such a survivalist nut that she felt the children were better off growing up without him.

    Both were great episodes.

    ~Philly

  18. Old adage, new perspective by Ikn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I for one do NOT welcome our new dominating Overlords, and will be hiding from them in my subterannean lair.

    --
    I know nothing
  19. Building materials by Sloosh13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means...uh...concrete.

  20. If you say so by mnewton32 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...compare to your own disaster planning...

    Yes, of course. My own disaster planning...
    I must be missing out on something there. Perhaps because I'm not an American? I don't know, but the only disaster planning I do involves wondering how I'm going to explain my latest eBay purchase to my wife.