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Longhorn's Copy Protection Standard

hype7 writes "The Register is reporting that Microsoft have attempted to force a last-minute CD protection standard on the recording industry in order to ship it in Longhorn. From the article: "Any such deal would see Microsoft support 'an industry-wide copy control platform' built in to its next-generation Longhorn operating system, with the computer giant instructing labels that the compatible secure CDs must contain additional multimedia content, such as bonus tracks, 'as a quid pro quo for adding effective [DRM] into the consumer experience'". It looks like everyone except the consumer is going to win on this one - Microsoft controls the secure format, the RIAA gets a secure format, and the consumer loses all their rights for the "quid pro quo" of a bonus track."

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  1. Other Initiatives... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    The letter, dated 2 September 2004, says that Microsoft's offer came "literally in the last few days" but requires that labels across the entire industry agree upon a specification for the functionality of the protected discs by 20 September.

    In other news, Microsoft to offer computer training packages on Herding Cats.

    Seems there was something within the last month where Microsoft's Windows Media advances on big media content were spurned.

    "We're calling together a representative coalition of the industry to plan a possible meeting to discuss whether further consideration of your offer is necessary. Not that we're worried about you getting a cut of our cut, but we're all insane with greed and want to be sure we don't let anyone dictate our destiny to us in the same way we have for decades to consumers. Now if you'll excuse me I have several new acts to screw, I mean, negotiate standard industry contracts with."

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  2. No wonder they're dropping all the new features by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    All this crippling of Windows takes a lot of time. Besdies, DRM is much better than WinFS.

  3. 'Microsoft' 'RIAA' and 'DRM'.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    .. all mentioned in the same article?
    Whoa, let the flamefest commence!

  4. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    From reading Slashdot it looks like the entire world is using Linux with occasional Mac OS here and there. Microsoft will impact that tiny market share it controls, the rest will just rely on realiable and highly compatible Mandrake 10.

  5. Just think.. by malkavian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Only one copy protection mechanism to overcome, and then it's time to go back to freely backing up you data again.

    1. Re:Just think.. by sgant · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, please RIAA...put all of your "secure format" eggs into one basket please. And yes, PLEASE get into bed with Microsoft on this issue. PLEASE!

      Please let Microsoft worry about your security concerns!

      This will be a great day for music and fans of music everywhere!

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      "Leo Fender was in a 'state of grace' when he designed the Stratocaster." -- Paul Reed Smith
  6. The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin... by ttys00 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

  7. I don't see the logic by Prock · · Score: 2, Funny

    There is always another way to rip the audio from CDs. So Microsoft builds copy protection into their OS. Who cares. It wont stop me from making backups of my CDs.

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    -=Prock=-
  8. Re:Ok... by sgant · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cause it'll have cool shiney icons and menus that go "swooosshhh"!

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    "Leo Fender was in a 'state of grace' when he designed the Stratocaster." -- Paul Reed Smith
  9. Re:Who'll be buying CDs... by sgant · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, by the time LongHorn comes out humans will have evolved beyond actually hearing sounds and instead have music telepathically beamed into our brains via a quantum computer net that exists in hyperspace.

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    "Leo Fender was in a 'state of grace' when he designed the Stratocaster." -- Paul Reed Smith
  10. Re:Great by nuclear305 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I love being screwed."

    Well, I would hope you do...

  11. Re:bad news for macintosh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Some copy-protected audio discs are causing Mac OS computers to start to a gray screen. In some cases, the discs will not easily eject from the computer.

    And that is why god invented the paper clip. Which then went on to be idolized in Microsoft Office, which in turn caused people so much anguish that they took their own lives, therefore bringing them closer to god. Or something like that...

  12. Bend over how far? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where does Microsoft expect us to install that long horn?

    I don't see where I'm getting any kind of benefit from their plan.

  13. Re:gored by longhorn by Stevyn · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, if you're going to migrate before longhorn comes out, I suggest you wait for Mandrake 15.1. I have a feeling that's going to be a good distro. Then again, SuSE 14.5 should be good too. I hope kernel 4.6.8.1 is going to be all it's cracked up to be though.

  14. Re:Who'll be buying CDs... by Asprin · · Score: 5, Funny


    Who'll be buying *Windows* when LongHorn comes out?

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    - Doug McKenzie
  15. Re:Real copy protection would be great by hrtserpent6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know mine does!...I mean...I know this guy...er...

  16. Re:Who'll be buying CDs... by hardlined · · Score: 3, Funny

    *buying* is the keyword for most desktop users.

  17. redundant ... but funny? by slowhand · · Score: 2, Funny

    All your digital rights are belong to us...

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    Busy aligning my non-linear thoughts.
  18. You know... by deutschemonte · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I don't think I've ever really said it, but I hate Microsoft. Not in a flaming way, I just plain hate them.

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    The preceding message was based on actual events. Only the names, locations and events have been changed.
  19. Re:Who'll be buying CDs... by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Who'll be buying CDs by the time LongHorn comes out???"

    I, for one, am looking forward to the Duke Nukem Forever soundtrack.

  20. Cluelesser Mods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Like neocons, some mod's can't take criticism and need to silence dissent. Q.E.D.

  21. Microsoft controls the secure format?? by Java+Pimp · · Score: 4, Funny

    God I hope so! I was worried for a second!

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    Kull: She told me she was 19!
  22. Re:Ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I won't.

    I'm perfectly happy with Windows for Workgroups 3.11. It's windows--with networking.

  23. Re:What if it is outlawed? by ImpTech · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well obviously...

    1. Add Germany to the "Axis of Evil"
    2. "Liberate" the Germans from their "anti-American" (read:anti-corporate America) government
    3. Write the DMCA into Germany's new constitution.
    4. Accept suitcases of money from the RIAA.

  24. Quid Pro Quo? by Dashing+Leech · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...and the consumer loses all their rights for the "quid pro quo" of a bonus track."

    Sounds about as enticing as losing a dental plan for a keg of beer.

    Dental plan.
    Lisa needs braces.
    Dental plan.
    Lisa needs braces.
    Dental plan.
    Lisa needs braces.
    Bonus track.
    Lisa need fair use.
    Bonus track.
    Lisa need fair use.
    Bonus track.
    Lisa need fair use.

  25. True Story by superpulpsicle · · Score: 5, Funny

    RIAA: We like to screw customers?

    M$: How so?

    RIAA: We used to enforce $20 a music CD throughout the entire 90s.

    M$: That's nothing. We make people pay subscriptions for life.

    RIAA: Yes, but we enforce $20 over products we don't produce.

    M$: Damn that's good. But ours include holes for viruses and spyware. So people will spend more money.

    RIAA: Well, our music CDs will soon be unlistenable because we will change format. They will have to buy the music again.

    M$: Yes, we can arrest people for stealing our software.

    RIAA: Please, we have already arrested a grandmother, a single parent on welfare, and a 5 year old.

    M$: You are my idol.

    1. Re:True Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      When someone starts by saying "True Story", you just know it's going to be good.

  26. So will it be a Blue Magic Marker this time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    What color Magic Marker will defeat this round of copy-protection?

  27. Re:Real copy protection would be great by tgd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Windows user!

    er...

    Theif!

    er... wait a second, which one is the bad one on /.?

  28. Ah. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Mooooooooooo!

  29. Re:That's bad how? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2, Funny
    Dude, if I shoved a steaming pile of SHIT into my computer, I wouldn't expect to work.


    Why not? It works for over 90% of computer users.

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  30. Re:Encryption Circumvention Devices? by gantzm · · Score: 2, Funny

    What if those older OS's become illegal to use?

    Note to future DMCA enforcers : When you come to collect my illegal OS I suggest you wear kevlar and bring a big pile of medics. You will ultimately win and you will eventually take my illegal OS, but the cost to do so will be very high.

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    Excessive forking causes un-wanted children.
  31. Re:garage bands by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Make it seven figures and you have a deal.

  32. Re:garage bands and OSS coders by Max+Threshold · · Score: 4, Funny
    Then you have the REALLY zealous OSS coders who would accept that job, slip GPL code into MS projects, and than anonymously report it on Slashdot. Oh, and they'd also donate most of their income to the EFF.

    MS probably won't be knocking on my door any time soon. :o)

  33. Re:What should an industry association care for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    If everyone would freekin apply some common sence

    You mean "cents", I'm sure. The RIAA wants everyone's common cents for their bank account. Just a few cents per person per day.

  34. Re:Let's just Stop giving them Money by Frogbert · · Score: 2, Funny
    This is a sick world we live in.

    You misspelled country.
  35. Could be worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    " They want something easy, and formula - like Jessica Simpson"

    Could be worse...they might listen to her uglier, less talented sister Ashley...oh...wait