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Instant Messaging Goes Graphical

williampiv writes "For most of the millions of people around the world who regularly use instant messaging, the communications tool has largely been a text-only experience in which typed emoticons offer only minimal clues to someone's state of mind. The recent launch of two services -- a brand new, fully three-dimensional chat-room product known as IMVU, and AOL Instant Messenger's new 3-D SuperBuddy icons -- is putting the spotlight on a major shift by the leading IM providers toward making graphical avatars a fundamental personalization feature."

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  1. Been There by mr.nicholas · · Score: 4, Funny

    A graphical, 3D chat environment? Oh, you mean Star Wars: Galaxies!

    1. Re:Been There by killmenow · · Score: 5, Funny

      SW:G? I thought a graphical, 3D chat environment was a coffee shop...or maybe a strip club if you want more graphics.

    2. Re:Been There by 3terrabyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "she's not sure it is going to be the big hit the IM services want it to be. 'I think it's kind of short-lived....it's one of those faddish things that people are going to want to have for a while" *GROAN*
      I know I'm getting old, but come on. This crap has been tried before, and it wasn't a success then, it's not going to succeed now. To be truly revolutionary, you need to either get more immersed in an online world (covered by Everquest, etc), or more graphical with your own face (Covered by web cams, etc). Personally I think the 'next big thing in chatting' is next to impossible to reach because the very things that make it the next big thing, go against what makes chatting work right now. Text. Why not voice. Or vid phone. Or the telephone? Text is great because it allows you to ignore people, allows you time to think about your thoughts before replying. Allows you to be away for a while. Text is also small. Can you imagine trying to run 4 other apps while chatting with someone with those big goofy graphics? Not only that, but how do you manage multiple people? I'm sure some guys are really into 1-on-1 cyber chatting with fake girls, but text allows managing of multiple/random/sporadic/temporary chatters. "So AIM is charging $2 for each SuperBuddy a user buys. The company sees SuperBuddies a little bit like ring tones -- one-off customizations for a communications tool. And AIM hopes its customers won't stop at one SuperBuddy, but that they'll want different ones for different moods." Yea. The dot.com crap just keeps going...

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  2. MS Chat? by softwave · · Score: 5, Informative

    I thought Microsoft had a similar product a couple of years ago. Microsoft Chat or Comic Chat or something in the kind... You could select a comic character and assign it facial expressions and such.
    It died a silent death :)

    1. Re:MS Chat? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      MS Comic Chat was an IRC client that spammed the channel with some meta-data used to create the comic. I used it a few times, and found that most of the time I never bothered to change my character's emotional state, and neither did anyone else.

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    2. Re:MS Chat? by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

      Haha. Just set it to "apathetic/depressed" and leave it there, like everyone else on IRC.

  3. Eh? by Exiler · · Score: 4, Insightful
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  4. Deja Vu??? by Vexler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A webcam pretty much does the same thing - except you don't have avatars, you ARE the avatar.

    1. Re:Deja Vu??? by bagel2ooo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      >> A webcam pretty much does the same thing - except you don't have avatars, you ARE the avatar.

      I think a lot of the desire for these things is to still have that layer of abstraction/anonmnity between you and the people - likely strangers - of who you communicate with online. It can be an intimidating thing to plaster your face in a window with an anonymous party. Also, while this has gotten better, setting up a webcam for IM applications can be fairly non-trivial.

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  5. Nothing new here. :) by Gwala · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I may point out, this isnt anything new. Blaxxun, Activeworlds, Secondlife are all similar 3D platforms, but have a great deal more experience & interactivity (having all existed for some years now). I posted some info on my favourite 3D platform at the moment (Secondlife) here

    (Also check out Activeworlds & There (nb: there is more a social use, like the topic, rather than a 3D platform on it's own.))

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  6. Truth in avatars? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is there a skin of someone who looks like me sitting at their computer in their underwear and sipping folgers? Perhaps with some 3D rendered clothes on the floor and a bowl of dried up ramen next to the keyboard?

  7. ActiveWorlds by bjb · · Score: 5, Informative
    There has been a service, ActiveWorlds for years now.. I think it opened in 1996? Basically, it is a fully 3D environment that you would walk around in, interact with other people, build houses, etc.

    I haven't logged on to it in years (read: since maybe 1999), but I always remember that I thought it was pretty cool given the 3D capabilities of x86 machines at the time (read: none), and it wasn't TOO bad for dialup. Even played MIDI tracks while you were walking around. I think they eventually went to a pay-for-service model, and hopefully they eventually adopted some kind of 3D acceleration technology (via ActiveX?)

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  8. just a toy by PerlDudeXL · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm probably just too much of an IRC addict to like the idea.

    "[..] It feels a little like a solution in search of a problem. [..]"

    Come on, text-based chats are more than enough
    for easy real-time communication. If you want
    something fancy use a Webcam-chat or video-conferencing instead.

  9. Not suited for everything... by Sidicas · · Score: 5, Funny

    "IMVU gives you the sense that you are in the presence of the person you are chatting with,"

    Wow, that sucks. Now I'm not going to put any family members in my buddy list.

  10. Graphical chat = graphical hacks by YetAnotherName · · Score: 4, Funny

    With recently discovered security holes in JPEG imaging and perhaps other graphics libraries, graphical chat doesn't necessarily sound like a step forward ...

    Crystal90210: OMG!!!1 dont chat with CuteA0Lb0y!!!!1
    my sister did and now she's pwned!!!!1
    FLAgrrl: LOL!!!!1

  11. What by BAILOPAN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, not only has this been done before with other chat clients (didn't Microsoft have a failed attempt), but what's the point? Who would actually use this? When I use AIM I specifically disable smilies and such because they're annoying... why would I now want disembodied aliens on my intarweb screen? AIM having those "themed" IM windows in 5.0 was a terrible idea. They just keep adding more crap into their client, kind of how they ruined ICQ.

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  12. Next features .... by sawb · · Score: 4, Funny

    should include more animation.

    Nothing funnier than having your friend make fun of you and you execute the /goatse.cx command and your avatar ... er, won't go there.

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  13. A bit of Criticism by Indras · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My main problem concerning buddy icons and avatars and such is that the selections are simply too limited. I mean, sure, there's a few thousand to pick from, and even categorized, but still finding something that seems to fit me just doesn't happen. I imagine this will be far worse with a 3D avatar based system, since the selection will be much larger, and it just won't be possible for the average person to make their own (like they currently do with animated GIFs and such).

    Also, it mentions charging for the service. I personally wouldn't not pay any amount, not even a few pesos a month, for such a service. Instant Messaging is just not something I associate with fees, like web page browsing, or IRC. Besides, if it becomes popular, someone will make a free version of it, or if everyone else thinks it costs too much, it will die a quick death.

    It will take some real work to pull this off, but gratz if they do.

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  14. Y! Avatars by Southpaw018 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone else use Yahoo! Messenger? :p They've had an avatar system for a while now (previous to AIM's SuperBuddy icons), and it's fairly nice if a tad limited in choices. Check out avatars.yahoo.com (ie only, lazy ass yahoo coders). The avatars have multiple facial expressions each, and they react to emoticons used in chat.

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  15. Social effects of virtual universe... by dpilot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When my mom and dad were kids, they worked on the farm. (29 hours a day, etc, etc) But they played with nearby kids.
    When I was a kid, I mostly played with nearby kids, but my parents drove me to a few friends' houses. (and vice versa)
    My kids played with a few neighborhood kids, but mostly we drove them to friends' houses. (and vice versa)

    Do you see a trend here?

    In the old days, we adapted and adjusted to the people around us. We are progressing toward simply finding people like us, so we don't have to adapt and adjust. The widespread availability of the car was probably a driving factor in this. But even as we are more choosey about our friends, we have to retain the same set of acquaintances, because there are after all the limitations of the physical world.

    Now add the Internet. It makes it more possible than ever to withdraw from the real world. To some extent, it even allows you to minimize interactions with real-world acquaintences. Now we can pick our friends AND, to a good extent, our actuaintances. Or at least, the Internet allows us to manipulate our focus more easily, ignoring or bashing those who do not fit our world-view.

    I would submit that our interpersonal skills are atrophying as a result, and that one place it becomes evident is the current election cycle. When you pick your friends and acquaintances, it becomes easier to turn the world into "us" and "them," and that seems to be what the world has been about, the past few years.

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    Virtual Universe? I don't WANT a virtual universe that looks just like the one I'm in. A brisk walk in the real universe at least gives me a little cardiovascular exercise and stimulates my other senses. The only thing that really interests me in the virtual universe would be places I can't go, for reasons of money, time, or accessability, or places that just don't or can't exist.

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  16. My little 2 minute bitch... by Sophrosyne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just forget the rancid way people behave on IM for a minute... This graphical chat thing is just absolute garbage!
    If anyone has been around for a while you may remember back when Instant Messaging was functional and innovative- nowadays it seems development by these big companies has stagnated-- and these are the new features? 3D heads floating in space??
    The only cure for IM is to allow interoperability between clients, this would allow for greater competition-- because as it stands now people are stuck with whoever has a monopoly on IM in their country- AIM in most of the U.S. and MSN Messenger everywhere else...
    Could someone (or some company) save IM!? ...Google perhaps?