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1 Million Firefoxes in 4 Days
Dodger73 writes "The Mozilla guys would have liked to reach 1 Million downloads of the Firefox 1.0 pre-release version within ten days of its release. After four days, the download counter now shows 1,006,060 downloads, surpassing the 10^6 mark more than twice as fast as they desired! Congratulations!"
How about adding a few more downloads?! Get it here.
Who said it did?
Just think about the numbers though. It must be already 10x the number of people the whole development team will meet in their entire lives.
Omnis amans amens
I like the new find bar on the bottom of the window... way better than it poping up.
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Copies are spread through many other sources so the actual amount of downloads is probably much more than the download counter indicates!
Congrats Firefox!
Things that impressed them the most over their first ~5 mins.
1. Tabbed Browsing
2. Ability to set multiple pages as home pages.
3. Sleek look.
4. Small download size.
I guess the popup blocker didn't make as much of an impact because of 3rd party blockers/etc that they had installed and functional.
Go Firefox!
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Behold.. Windows Update Extension for Firefox.
Enjoy!
Umm, all that does is open Windows Update in IE. However, there is an ActiveX plug-in for Mozilla, but I don't know if it works with Windows Update.
I just hope this leads web-developers to eventually test and validate their pages with something else than IE.
I have just the opposite problem: I usually have to remember to go back and check my site in IE after I update it. I've had to make a lot of minor changes because something looked muffed up in IE. For example, IE doesn't like when you put spaces inside of the quotes around HEX colors. (e.g.: bgcolor=" #333333 "). That color appears green in IE.
Hmm, that's funny, cause I'm running two copies of it and it hasn't crashed on me yet. One on my machine and one on my girlfriend's.
/. user that actually has a g/f!
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I can't believe noone mentioned Kevin Karpenske who kindly donated the firefox.com domain to the mozilla guys.
Kudos to Kevin for demonstrating a great deal of kindness in supporting our favourite browser..
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I've been looking at ways to automatically deploy it using MSI files, and switch the default browser to it across the company network.
Even though I limit peoples permissions they still get spyware. When things get bad especially for people who need admin access to their machines for legacy apps, I have to reinstall Windows2k. Not fun.
Wait till we get version 1.2 or something, and people can confidently install it in the corporate.
Then start counting.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
Firefox on a Win95 era (i.e. a Pentium) computer? That sounds like madness. I can't even get it to run acceptably on my PII-350.
In this case, the Win95 machine's a 333MHz K6-2. Firefox is a little slow on startup (ten seconds or so?) but a big improvement on Mozilla. In use, it's absolutely fine.
One of the Win98 machines is a 166MHz Pentium. Firefox is completely usable there, too - screen updates are slightly slower than on a modern machine, but it's really nothing to complain about. It's all completely 'interactive' - no stupid pauses not responding to mouse clicks, or anything like that.
What sort of things do people do to make Firefox run so slowly? I'm always puzzled as to how people are using web browsers to make them behave like that; I've never noticed any real slow-downs on the pages I visit...
Tedious Bloggy Stuff - hooray?
You should take a look at slashdot through the W3C markup validator.
Of course, the Slashdot Moderators(tm) don't want you to look at the site through the w3c. That's why you get the 403 forbidden error. However, if you save a page from this site and upload just that html file to w3c, you'll get over a hundred html errors. Try it with this story and you'll see what I'm talking about.
And people wonder why this site doesn't render right on different browsers, sheesh.
Shaggy
p.s. Yes, I know it's easier to bitch and moan than to actually do something about it. But damnit Jim, I'm a bicycle mechanic, not a programmer!
Nope, it's still screwy for me. Seems 25% of the
time, it renders Slashdot incorrectly. Reloading
often does nothing.
With almost every release of Mozilla based products, we fix security bugs. We announce those security bugs when we release, that's our standard operating procedure. See http://www.mozilla.org/security/ and http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/known-vul nerabilities.html.
We're very proud of our new Security Bug Bounty program which went into effect well before the Firefox PR shipped. That program helped us identify and fix several more security bugs than might have otherwise been fixed in this release.
The PR was actually release a couple of weeks behind schedule, in part due to our being busy working on fixing a couple of security and privacy issues. We certainly didn't "throw together a preview for the sake of not having to announce it as a fix for major exploits." What actually happened was that we announced the security fixes to the public and to security research firms like Secunia when we shipped PR. They found out about the problem because we shipped and we disclosed the bugs -- our normal process.
You seem to have the misconception that the security issues were about to be disclosed so we rushed a release out. That's just not the case. It was the Mozilla Foundation that made the security disclosures. We do that each time we ship a new release that has security related bug fixes.
--Asa
I also had some problems with 1.0PR. Most disturbing was that it didn't start at all. I went back to 0.93. Will give it another try when it reaches 1.0.
-- life is such and it gets sucher and sucher --
Yes. This bug still apears in 1.0PR.
It comes from the ability to view the site while not all of the data was already downloaded. In case images don't have their size properties, it assumes a default value and forgets to update it when the data appears.
To fix, simply ctrl- and ctrl+ to change font size and it'll fix the layout.
^_^
10^...
:)
0: 1
1: 10
2: 100
3: 1,000
4: 10,000
5: 100,000
6: 1,000,000
This will seem obvious once you've had your joe.
Actually, given the increasing number of broadband users in the USA, the difference in download times for FireFox and Mozilla 1.7.3 is no longer significant.
The difference between 4.5 MB and 11MB is dramatic for the 60 million (49%) US internet users who still don't have broadband.
I'm not sure how a figure like "half" isn't significant. Half of the US still isn't on broadband and for them, Firefox downloading much easier than Mozilla. Firefox is about the size of an MP3. People can relate to downloading something that size.
But Mozilla has a few things that FireFox lacks right now: 1) better page-rendering accuracy and 2) a very good mail and newsgroup reader.
Mozilla and Firefox share the same Gecko rendering engine so I'm not sure where you get the "better page-rendering accuracy" from. Firefox has a powerful companion e-mail application called Thunderbird for anyone who needs a great (not "good") email and newsgroup reader. Thunderbird is to Mozilla email what Firefox is to Mozilla browser.
--Asa
Yeah, and MyIE2 supports Super Drag-and-Drop, too! We should go download it and stay with our huge security hole as our main browser! Or not... Firefox isn't just about the Tabbed Browsing. Tabbed Browsing is extremely useful, but what makes Firefox great is that in conjunction with such other features as Find-As-You-Type, the cleaned up interface they offer with 1.0PR (with the Find dialog eliminated and appearing as a strip at the bottom of the window), the extra security (just from not bein IE), the standards compliance, and the plethora of excellent extensions available for it.
One thing - this 'Super Drag and Drop' crap that MyIE2 can do - yeah, Firefox does that, too...
I don't know specifically anything, but anything you might lose you can probably make up for with plugins.
They do. Sort of. Nvu is a standalone web authoring system based on a fork of Mozilla Composer. The project head is Daniel Glazman, who was lead developer for Composer. I have not used Nvu, but it seems to have added a number of significant (and IMO much needed) features to Composer's base (e.g. CSS editing and site managment).
The development is sponsored by Linspire, not the Mozilla Foundation, so the project arguably loses out in terms of branding, marketing, integration with Mozilla's bugzilla, etc. to an official Foundation project like Sunbird (the standalone calendar component). On the other hand, planet.mozilla.org (and thus the mozilla.org frontpage) syndicates Glazman's blog posts.
Then use Program Manager for your shell, and find some other program for viewing files ;). And yes, Program Manager does still exist in WinXP.
It does not interact with WU, but it does have an up-to-date install for all XP updates pre-SP2. They are currently working on it for Windows 2000 and 2003 as well. Check it out: www.autopatcher.com
"0101100101? It's just jibberish. *looks in mirror, gasps* 1010011010@!? AHHHHHH!!"
Switch on "Use Find As You Type" in Options -> Advanced -> Accessability and you'll be able to find links by just typing again.
Regarding what keeps you in Windowsland, all the standard Microsoft fonts can be gotten by typing
assuming, of course, you have a Debian/Semidebian. And for the games, well, it's slowly improving.
Good luck ahead, and don't be afraid to ask in #debian or #linux on irc.freenode.net. (I'm toresbe)
toresbe
Saves so much inks when printing directions.
for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".
Nice one Kevin.
About FF supposedly being aimed towards Windows, I'm not going to believe that unless you have a credible source to cite.
However, one thing that irks me about the Moz team is how Firefox's default behavior is quite different in Linux and in Windows. In Windows, if you middle-click on the tab bar at the top, the tab closes. In Linux, the middle click by default wants to open a new page with a link from the clipboard which, more often than not, is not a valid URL and generates an annoying error message. To fix this, you just have to go into the about:config, and change the middleclick.openURL (I think..) to 'false'.
Another thing.. In Windows, if you middle click in a page, you can scroll up and down. In Linux, again, you have to enable this in the about:config.
Since FF is supposed to be a multi-platform browser, I really wish they would make the default behavior consistent between platforms. I don't want to have to twiddle in the config to get it working like it's supposed to.
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I would think they build from source (don't know if they count that too). But still disribution downloads are not in the 1 million.
We don't count that well but it's likely pretty insignificant. We offer anonymous CVS access and maybe we could count the full checkouts from that tag. We do count source tarball downloads at our primary mirrors and those account about 4,000 of the nearly 1.2 million downloads so far.
--Asa
Interesting project, although I think building a lean browser from the ground up is the better approach compared to trying to strip the bloat off Mozilla.
:-)
I think that anyone who has ever built a rendering engine capable of displaying even 95% of today's websites would beg to differ with you. Mozilla's Gecko rendering engine is the most capable standards supporting code available. Minimo is an attempt to get that rendering engine leaned down some and running on small devices.
I've spent some time testing Minimo on an iPaq and it rocks. It can handle just about any web page you throw at it, like Mozilla and Firefox, and it fits in your pocket
--Asa
If you like these extensions, Opera has loads of useful features. The validation thing was in Opera first, for example: Press Ctrl+Alt+V to validate (or access from the right click context menu).
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I'm wondering how many IT pro's have downloaded this new firefox and installed it by deployable logins? I am aware of a company that downloaded it one time and installed it on twelve computers via domain login script.
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Do the Mozilla folks have any good recommendations on when to use Firefox vs. Mozilla?
t s. html
http://www.mozilla.org/products/choosing-produc
--Asa
Great news - for the next steps, I would advise in the strongest terms that you NOT say you'll reach 100 million downloads in a year and plan to get there via a Pepsi bottlecap promotion!!
Just a thought.
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...I've seen some very misleading information. Stuff like "Firefox 1.0 released" only to find somewhere down in the body text that this is a PR release, often with a semi-understandable explaination of what a PR release is. I suspect a great many slightly less geeky people believe that this IS 1.0 final.
Kjella
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