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2004 Ig Nobel Prizes Announced

ancice writes "The 2004 Ig Nobel prizes are out. Article by New Scientist. An 'invisible gorilla has scooped the 2004 Ig Nobel Prize for Psychology'. And 'dropped food is safe to eat if it has spent no more than five seconds on the floor' - Public Health. Finally, there's proof for the 5 second rule! And for Engineering, 'Patenting of the combover'. Official page with ceremony and lectures."

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  1. Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rule by stecoop · · Score: 5, Funny

    The 5-second rule - if food product should land on the ground and if the dog doesn't eat said food product in 5 seconds than you can have it.

    In conjunction with:
    Read your town charter, boy. `If food stuffs should touch the ground, said food stuffs shall be turned over to the village idiot.' Since I don't see him around, start shoveling! - Homer.

  2. Shurely shome mishtake ? by Space+cowboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not to be pedantic about the poster's phrasing, but I would have though the proof went *against* the five-second rule (although this is the first I've heard of such a rule - up until now I've always thought of food on the floor as being garbage-fodder... Catching it in mid-fall is the thing to do, thus managing to foil the buttered-toast rule :-)

    For me, the Coca Cola one is the most amazing one - there was a UK sitcom called 'Only Fools And Horses' about an East-London wide-boy ("Del-boy") and family, often hilarious, especially where 'Trigger' was concerned :-) One of Del's wheezes was to bottle the 'Peckham Spring' (IIRC) which of course was tapwater and sell to health-farm freaks - he couldn't believe people would pay *that* much for water :-)

    The fact that Coca Cola thought they could get away with for real makes me wonder what *other* "Del-boy" schemes have been put into practice!

    Simon

    --
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    1. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by ericspinder · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The fact that Coca Cola thought they could get away with [selling bottled water] for real
      I drink bottled water often, in particular, when I am out on the road. It's nearly impossible to find a public water fountain these days, and besides I wouldn't trust my health to most of them. For the most part, they are just decent well filtered tap water. Some are true 'spring water', with the 'minerals' intact, but most try to come close to just pure H2O.

      However, It does amaze me that some people buy the stuff by the case for their home, and/or the most expensive brand (it's just packaged water, damn it!). Nearly everyone can get the same quality water from home with the right filtration process.

      While sometimes over used by some people, pure packaged water makes a fine product and I believe that wherever you see a soda can vended you should have the opportunity to purchase the most important thing that humans need, clean fresh water.

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    2. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The fact that Coca Cola thought they could get away with for real makes me wonder what *other* "Del-boy" schemes have been put into practice!
      Coca-Cola and Pepsi are "getting away with this for real".

      Both of them sell bottled tap water under their respective brand names world-wide.

      Aquafina == Pepsi municipal tap water
      Dasani == Coke municipal tap water

      So I guess people shouldn't complain that I let my dog drink out of the toilet - she's getting the same stuff you're paying a buck a bottle for.

    3. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by JDevers · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yea, it's always amazed me that people will pay MORE (sometimes the water costs the same, but a lot of the times it is more) for Coca-Cola or Pepsi WITHOUT the flavoring, coloring, carbonation, sugar, etc added to it...basically just the water.

    4. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yea, it's always amazed me that people will pay MORE (sometimes the water costs the same, but a lot of the times it is more) for Coca-Cola or Pepsi WITHOUT the flavoring, coloring, carbonation, sugar, etc added to it...basically just the water.
      Especially since beer is cheaper.
    5. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      For the most part, they are just decent well filtered tap water. Some are true 'spring water', with the 'minerals' intact, but most try to come close to just pure H2O.

      I think that may be true in the US, but in the European Union water that calls itself `Natural Mineral Water' has to come from an accredited spring. Most of the big brands such as Evian, Vittel, Perrier, San Pellegrino, etc. fall into this category. There'a a long tradition of spas with putative health benefits, and no doubt the legislation exists to protect these brands.

      On the other hand, `Pure' or `Spring' water are unprotected terms and can indeed be nothing more than tap water - these are typically somewhat cheaper. However, Dasani is priced at the same level as mineral water. Many people in Europe seem to think it's worth paying a premium for water that comes from a special `natural' source, but I don't see Dasani making much headway at the same price.

    6. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by jfengel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Totally pure H2O actually tastes surprisingly bad. It doesn't taste like anything at all, and that feels really weird, even if you're just used to tap water (as opposed to mineral water that they're deliberately flavoring).

      Most brands do tweak the mineral content a bit to tinker with the flavor, though far less than something labeled "mineral water".

      Personally, I drink a lot of tap water, and I'm always faintly embarrassed when I want something to drink on the road and have to run into a 7-11 to buy water. It's slightly more cost-effective to buy a Hyper Gulp filled with water instead of soda, but I kinda like the sports bottle caps, and I like the flavor of Dasani.

      It's a ripoff, cosmically speaking, but it's more healthful than buying soda.

    7. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by goodydot · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have heard from three different dentists that the rate of cavities in adults is climbing, and they attributed it to increased consumption of bottled water over tap water. They tell me this is because tap water generally contains flouride, while bottled water does not. Additionally, my friend working at Boston Water and Sewer drinks his tap water over bottled water, because tap water is subject to far more rigorous testing than is bottled water.

    8. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by ill+dillettante · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree that very pure water (Mill-Q) tastes unusual, but I wouldn't say it tastes bad. I drink it at work all the time (one of the "benefits" of being a scientist). The best way to describe how it tastes is like air- you know that you have put something wet in your mouth, but it doesn't seem heavy enough to be a liquid.

      I have always thought there would be a market for it - at least would taste different to all the other bottle waters.

    9. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I like the flavor of Dasani.
      its funny, i really like the flavor of Danani too. My girlfriend informed me that CocaCola adds a small amount of salt or sodium(not sure which) in with the minerals to not only enhance taste, but dehyrdrate you slightly so you'll buy more Dasani
      In any case, it does taste better than other bottled waters for some inexplicable reason.
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    10. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure if this is local to France or European but there are three major terms :

      - "spring" water is *very* heavily monitored and has some very stringent restrictions on it's composition. Notably on included minerals. Very few springs actually qualify. You can drink this water daily without trouble.

      - "mineral" water is also monitored but without the restrictions on composition, therefore there *might* be too much sodium (or fluoride, or whatever) for regular consumption. Most waters fall into this category. You are supposed to read the label and to know what the limits of each mineral is for a healthy diet (although even if you overdo it you typically won't die because of mineral water, although some can be quite salty).

      - "purified" water is any kind of water that has been mechanically and chemically purified.

      All three kinds can be carbonated, the gas may or may not be originally present at the spring (the label normally says so).

      In conclusion, people here buy a lot of bottled water for an obscure reason, I only buy carbonated water (because it isn't available on tap). The amount spent in advertising by water companies is astounding.

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    11. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Additionally, my friend working at Boston Water and Sewer drinks his tap water over bottled water, because tap water is subject to far more rigorous testing than is bottled water.


      This was covered in an episode of Penn & Tellers "Bullshit!", and at least according to them your friend is essentially correct. While bottled water is regulated, it's regulated by the FDA which has less than one guy dedicated to enforcement/monitoring. Tap water is closely monitored and each city has to issue reports on water quality annually.

      Nevertheless I still prefer filtering my water because I don't like the taste of chlorine, and there's always the unknown factor of lead leached from the pipes inside your house. The risk is probbably low on the leached lead, but filters are still pretty cheap.

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    12. Re:Shurely shome mishtake ? by MonkeyCookie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Especially since beer is cheaper.

      This is especially true in Germany, where good beer is often significantly cheaper than bottled water or soft drinks.

      When in a restaurant there, I would often order beer because it was the cheapest drink on the menu. I actually like ordinary tap water, but often asking for water there gets you carbonated water, which I do not like at all. You have to actually specify that you want tap water (Leitungswasser), but sometimes they still don't seem to get it.

      For some reason, Germans think tap water is somehow bad for you. Coming from California, I'm telling you their tap water is *really* good. It isn't chlorinated (which makes water taste really nasty) so I never felt any need to buy bottled water, unless I was away from home traveling.

  3. Text in case of Slashdotting.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The 2004 Ig Nobel Prize Winners

    The 2004 Ig Nobel Prizes were awarded on Thursday evening, September 30, at the 14th First Annual Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony, at Harvard's Sanders Theatre.

    MEDICINE
    Steven Stack of Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan, USA and James Gundlach of Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, USA, for their published report "The Effect of Country Music on Suicide."
    PUBLISHED IN: Social Forces, vol. 71, no. 1, September 1992, pp. 211-8.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: James Gundlach.

    PHYSICS
    Ramesh Balasubramaniam of the University of Ottowa, and Michael Turvey of the University of Connecticut and Yale University, for exploring and explaining the dynamics of hula-hooping.
    REFERENCE: "Coordination Modes in the Multisegmental Dynamics of Hula Hooping," Ramesh Balasubramaniam and Michael T. Turvey, Biological Cybernetics, vol. 90, no. 3, March 2004, pp. 176-90.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Ramesh Balasubramaniam and Michael Turvey.

    PUBLIC HEALTH
    Jillian Clarke of the Chicago High School for Agricultural Sciences, and then Howard University, for investigating the scientific validity of the Five-Second Rule about whether it's safe to eat food that's been dropped on the floor.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Jillian Clarke

    CHEMISTRY
    The Coca-Cola Company of Great Britain, for using advanced technology to convert liquid from the River Thames into Dasani, a transparent form of water, which for precautionary reasons has been made unavailable to consumers.

    ENGINEERING
    Donald J. Smith and his father, the late Frank J. Smith, of Orlando Florida, USA, for patenting the combover (U.S. Patent #4,022,227).
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Donald Smith's son, Scott Jackson Smith, and daughter, Heather Smith.

    LITERATURE
    The American Nudist Research Library of Kissimmee, Florida, USA, for preserving nudist history so that everyone can see it.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Pamela Chestek, the daughter of ANRL director Helen Fisher.

    PSYCHOLOGY
    Daniel Simons of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Christopher Chabris of Harvard University, for demonstrating that when people pay close attention to something, it's all too easy to overlook anything else -- even a man in a gorilla suit.
    REFERENCE: "Gorillas in Our Midst," Daniel J. Simons and Christopher F. Chabris, vol. 28, Perception, 1999, pages 1059-74.
    DEMO:
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris.

    ECONOMICS
    The Vatican, for outsourcing prayers to India.

    PEACE
    Daisuke Inoue of Hyogo, Japan, for inventing karaoke, thereby providing an entirely new way for people to learn to tolerate each other
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Daisuke Inoue.

    BIOLOGY
    Ben Wilson of the University of British Columbia, Lawrence Dill of Simon Fraser University [Canada], Robert Batty of the Scottish Association for Marine Science, Magnus Whalberg of the University of Aarhus [Denmark], and Hakan Westerberg of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries, for showing that herrings apparently communicate by farting.
    REFERENCE: "Sounds Produced by Herring (Clupea harengus) Bubble Release," Magnus Wahlberg and Håkan Westerberg, Aquatic Living Resources, vol. 16, 2003, pp. 271-5.
    REFERENCE: "Pacific and Atlantic Herring Produce Burst Pulse Sounds," Ben Wilson, Robert S. Batty and Lawrence M. Dill, Biology Letters, vol. 271, 2003, pp. S95-S97.
    WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Lawrence Dill, Robert Batty, Magnus Whalberg, Hakan Westerberg.

    1. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by Mxyzptlk · · Score: 2, Funny
      PSYCHOLOGY
      Daniel Simons of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Christopher Chabris of Harvard University, for demonstrating that when people pay close attention to something, it's all too easy to overlook anything else -- even a man in a gorilla suit.
      REFERENCE: "Gorillas in Our Midst," Daniel J. Simons and Christopher F. Chabris, vol. 28, Perception, 1999, pages 1059-74.
      DEMO:
      WHO ATTENDED THE IG NOBEL CEREMONY: Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris

      Yeah yeah, but if you closely observed who attended, you could see that it was not Simons and Chabris. In fact, it was Sigourney Weaver, who thought the award was for "Gorillas in the mist"!
    2. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ben Wilson of the University of British Columbia, Lawrence Dill of Simon Fraser University [Canada], Robert Batty of the Scottish Association for Marine Science, Magnus Whalberg of the University of Aarhus [Denmark], and Hakan Westerberg of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries, for showing that herrings apparently communicate by farting.

      Please, not 'farting' - I believe the correct term is 'fast, repetitive ticks' (or, um, 'FRTs').

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    3. Re:Text in case of Slashdotting.. by gnalre · · Score: 4, Informative

      CHEMISTRY
      The Coca-Cola Company of Great Britain, for using advanced technology to convert liquid from the River Thames into Dasani, a transparent form of water, which for precautionary reasons has been made unavailable to consumers


      Actually I think what they mean is Thames Water which is a public water company. Many water from the river thames drinkable while no means impossible would demand some plaudits.

      What they actually did was take public tap water meeting EU regulations, filter it and in the process add harmful impurities which were not in the original product.

      Oh yes then sell it at a vast mark up..

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  4. 5 seconds on the floor? by MrRTFM · · Score: 4, Funny

    What if it lands in dogshit?

    Is there a formula to work out the exact 'safe time' based on what food lands on when it falls?

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    You can't expect to wield supreme executive power, just because some watery tart threw a sword at you
    1. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by savagedome · · Score: 5, Funny

      What if it lands in dogshit?

      There might be some common sense involved in that decision.

    2. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by magefile · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I used to have the sig, "If you think common sense is common, your sample size is too small". I think that applies here ...

    3. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by canoe_head · · Score: 3, Funny

      There might be some common sense involved in that decision. True, however we are talking about someone who has dog shit on his floor.

    4. Re:5 seconds on the floor? by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if it lands in dogshit?

      Why, pray tell, are you eating near dogshit?

  5. What? Nothing for Diebold? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 3, Funny

    For endeavouring to manufacture a machine implementing a method of establishing a tally of votes for public-office candidate without the usage of a paper-trail???

  6. No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by Srass · · Score: 5, Informative
    I don't know where the poster got that, considering the article linked from the improb.com site says, in part:

    "The next step was sterilizing the tiles and inoculating them with E. coli, then placing 25 grams of cookies or gummies on the tiles for 5 seconds. In all cases, E. coli was transferred from the tile to the food, demonstrating that microorganisms can be transferred from ceramic tile to food in 5 seconds or less."


    1. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by Destoo · · Score: 4, Funny
      "The next step was sterilizing the tiles and inoculating them with E. coli, then placing 25 grams of cookies or gummies on the tiles for 5 seconds. In all cases, E. coli was transferred from the tile to the food"


      There you go.
      It should be LESS THAN 5 seconds.
      4.99 seconds would have been good.

      5 was just too much.
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    2. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by willpall · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That was under artificially contaminated conditions. Earlier in that article, the student mentioned with suprise that even high-traffic areas were fairly germ-free. In practice, this validates the 5 second rule for me. Just don't forget to blow it off to really make sure it's clean!

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    3. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by stienman · · Score: 4, Informative

      I suppose you missed the part where they tested floors in many locations and found no bacteria or fungus.

      Therefore, they concluded, it is generally safe - not because transfer doesn't happen, but because we are fairly fanatical about keeping floors clean.

      -Adam

    4. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by Srass · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, I caught that... I'm just paranoid enough that I'm not ready to consider floors on the U of I campus necessarily representative of all floors. Now, what'd be really interesting, to me, is testing for bacteria and fungus on the floors in the kitchens of various restaurants around the country -- where lots of food is prepared, and, from what I've heard, the five second rule comes into play anyway, valid or not.

    5. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by gphinch · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, yes in a university lab where they have janitorial services daily I'm sure the floors are clean. I haven't mopped my floors at home in months. Go bachelorhood!

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    6. Re:No, the 5-second rule hasn't been proven. by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Combining this with earlier articles I've read, one could conclude its safe to eat food dropped on the floor, but not on your desk. Of course, based on those stories, about the best place to accidently drop your food is on the toilet seat.

      A couple choice quotes from here.

      "Surprisingly, toilet seats consistently had the lowest bacteria levels of the 12 surfaces tested in the study."

      "We don't think twice about eating at our desks, even though the average desk has 100 times more bacteria than a kitchen table and 400 times more bacteria than the average toilet."

  7. Good to see Coca Cola getting an award by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We brits loved the Dansai saga and I'm delighted to see that they got an award for it. It's a shame they didn't mention Peckham Spring, surely the inspiration behind the inovation!

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  8. Prior art on combover? by FerretFrottage · · Score: 5, Funny

    Didn't they find cave drawings of cavemen that used combovers? The difference being that the combover covered most of their entire bodies.

    --
    "Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened by change."
  9. Winner by Tomahawk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    On Brainiac (on Sky ONE in the UK) last week, they did a demonstration of the 'Invisible Gorilla' expirement, which one.

    Basically, they had about 7 or 8 poeple on the screen, and told us to watch how many times a particular parcel was passed around.

    The answer was 12 (for anyone who wanted to know).

    During this time, someone dress in a bee suit walked onto the screen, stood there for about 10 seconds, and walked off the far side. The parcel even passed across this person.

    I didn't see the bee at all, until it was played back. The bee was on the screen for a full 20 seconds in total.

    It was quite amazing. Almost as good as trying to get your right foot to rotate clockwise, and your right hand to rotate anti-clockwise...

    T.

    1. Re:Winner by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 5, Funny
      I didn't see the bee at all, until it was played back. The bee was on the screen for a full 20 seconds in total.

      Reminds me of something from a certain radio series I listened to last night..
      The Somebody Else's Problem field is much simpler and more effective, and what's more can be run for over a hundred years on a single torch battery. This is because it relies on people's natural disposition not to see anything they don't want to, weren't expecting, or can't explain. If Effrafax had painted the mountain pink and erected a cheap and simple Somebody Else's Problem field on it, then people would have walked past the mountain, round it, even over it, and simply never have noticed that the thing was there.

      So, presumably to avoid detection, terrorists and other ne'r-do-wells should wear gorilla suits - invisibility is just too much effort. :-)
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    2. Re:Winner by Tomahawk · · Score: 3

      It is excellent, alright. One of their catchphrases is

      We do this so you don't have to

      They do fun stuff like blowing up cars, putting christmas tree lights into the microwave, testing package materials by wrapping up a TV and throwing it out the back of a van travelling at 50mph, demonstrating the properties on a dilatant compound by filling someone swimming pool with custard (you can walk in custard, just don't stand still or you'll sink and get stuck). Fun stuff like that.

      In this series, they also have 4 quite stunning women testing various explosives. Last week, they tested plastic explosive, by blowing up a fridge. And then you can give it marks out of 10!

      They also tested brown noise a few weeks ago - it worked!

      T.

  10. Two things: by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Obligatory Simpsons Quote:

    "mmmm floor pie" - Homer Simpson

    and the worst comb-over I've ever seen:

    My Congressmen

  11. Like in video games... by suso · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...if you see a piece of food lying on the ground, pick it up.

    1. Re:Like in video games... by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Funny

      If the food starts to blink, the 5 seconds are almost over.

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  12. The Effect of Country Music on Suicide by Nos. · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure Country Music has increased the rate of suicide, while thrash metal and rap have increased the number of homicides.... I know I want to kill the little punks who drive around with this crap blasting out of their car at all hours of the night!

  13. Details of the invisible gorilla by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw this one on TV, on a pop-psychology programme. The guy said that he was going to play a short video, and that you should watch it carefully.
    The video consisted of about eight people standing in a circle. Some of them were wearing white t-shirts and some of them were wearing black t-shirts. They had two basketballs and people were engaged in passing basketballs to others wearing the same colour t-shirts. Occasionally two of them would swap places.
    It went on for a couple of minutes, and was pretty hard to follow, what with people changing places and everything.

    But it was only on the second play-through that I noticed a guy in a gorilla suit, halfway through the video, walk on from one side of the screen, slowly stroll through the circle of ball-passing people, and off the other side of the screen.

    Truly astonishing.

    1. Re:Details of the invisible gorilla by frank249 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      'Gorillas in Our Midst,' Daniel J. Simons and Christopher F. Chabris, vol. 28, Perception, 1999, pages 1059-74.

      It was even mentioned on CSI Season 2 Show 32, the one were the three woman rob the casino:

      Gil Grissom : A Harvard professor conducted an experiment. Asked a bunch of students to watch a basketball game - count the number of times the ball was passed.

      Captain Jim Brass : Yeah? Groundbreaking.

      Gil Grissom : During the game a person dressed in a gorilla suit ran across the court. Afterward, the professor asked the students if they noticed the gorilla. Fifty percent responded, "what gorilla?"

      Captain Jim Brass : That's wonderful, Gil. If I see a gorilla, I'll arrest it.

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  14. Steve Chabot by ImaLamer · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know it's bad form to reply to your own comment, but there was a race between my current congressmen a few years back and we approached his opponent at Oktoberfest. Someone I know give him this tidbit:

    Friend: Why don't you ask Chabot in the next debate why he is trying to mislead the people of the first district on a daily basis?

    Candidate: What do you mean? (Excited)

    Friend: Well, he's been trying to convince us that he has a full head of hair. I've seen that combover, it's not fooling anyone.

  15. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by Destoo · · Score: 3, Funny
    Nah. It's not the music. It's the hormones.

    Meh. Depressing teenagers is like shooting fish in a barrel
    --Bart Simpson in the Smashing Pumpkins/Cypress Hill episode

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  16. Coca-Cola by Un0r1g1nal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am still amazed that they tried to sell this and expected not to get caught. It's beggars belief. But then again look at coke, it can't be any better for you (probably much worse) than water from the thames. My dad recently used some to clean an oil spill off his drive, think I will stick with real drinks, like orange and apple juice, that aren't just processed drugs.

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    1. Re:Coca-Cola by lelitsch · · Score: 2, Informative

      You *are* aware that the Dasani water that Coca Cola is selling in the US is purified tab water, too, are you?
      Maybe tat just shows that the US consumer-or the US media-are bigger suckers than the ones in the UK.

  17. Country music and suicide rates by scotay · · Score: 5, Funny

    A disturbing study showing that the suicide rates for whites in US metropolitan areas is higher in cities where more country music is played on the radio earned the Ig Nobel prize in Medicine for Steven Stack of Wayne State in Detroit and James Gundlach of Auburn University in Alabama.

    I think some further study is needed here. My theory is that country music is not actually the culprit, but Southern Baptists are. Country music is more likely to be played in areas infested with Southern Baptists and other fundamentalist Christians. These groups are able to place stricter social controls on anything fun and are constantly harping on homosexuals and on anyone that might be having a good time and not constantly worried about damnation. This denial of the reality of free American lives eventually leads to higher suicide rates. I think we would need to start playing country music in more liberalized areas and see if that might increase the rates of buzzkill before we can blame country music exclusively.

    1. Re:Country music and suicide rates by maxpublic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd like to counter-point: I think it is totally acceptable to blame country music exclusively.

      In that case rap and other forms of kiddie 'music' are certainly responsible for a higher homocide rates. Particularly when some little prick is blasting the ultra-mega-supercool speakers he just bought (either for his house or his car) and refuses to recognize the fact that his neighbors really don't want to listen to his noise collection along with him. And when you ask him - politely - to turn the noise down, he barely touches the volume knob and somehow thinks that's good enough to comply with your request. And whines like the little loser he is when you return to repeat the request.

      Wash, rinse, repeat. Eventually go mad and blow the little bastard's brains out. Neighbors applaud wildly, law enforcement officials aren't so approving. Hey, you'd rather have gone for castration to prevent the little shit foisting his substandard progeny off on some witless girl, but the young'ns are just too bloody hard to catch and hold down....

      Max

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  18. i knew i wasn't crazy..... by to_kallon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oddly a large fraction had not noticed a woman in a gorilla suit walk through the scene
    for years i've been seeing this big rabbit, and everyone thought i was nuts. but who's laughing now......?

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    The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it.
    -Oscar Wilde
  19. 5 Second Rule by Mr+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not to be pedantic about the poster's phrasing, but I would have though the proof went *against* the five-second rule (although this is the first I've heard of such a rule - up until now I've always thought of food on the floor as being garbage-fodder... Catching it in mid-fall is the thing to do, thus managing to foil the buttered-toast rule :-)

    It depends on which part of the claim you are looking at. If you take the claim as "Food that has been on the floor less than 5 seconds is safe to eat" then the claim holds up, mostly because he proved that the time doesn't matter much at all. What he seems to have demonstrated is that most of the floors he looked at were clean enough to eat from. He did disprove that the time is the relevant factor, however.

    There's always a difference between clean and sanitary. Relevant to this is that we may actually be too clean.

  20. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny
    A disturbing study showing that the suicide rates for whites in US metropolitan areas is higher in cities where more country music is played on the radio
    Now why am I not surprised?
    Hey, billy-bob, I dare you to put your shotgun barrel in your mouth.
    Shut up, Cleatus!
    Double-dare yah!
    Yeah? Well I triple-dare you-all back!
    Okay.
    Bet you a buck your wad of chaw's gone blocked the darn barrel.
    (mumbled around barrel) Aint.
    Is to!
    (mumbled around barrel) Aint!
    Is to!
    (mumbled around barrel) Aint! I'll proove it to ya! * Bang! *
    (shakes head in surprise) Sumbitch, he was right.
  21. The 5 second rule by iso · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have been told since I was a kid that this is the three second rule! I can't believe for all these years I've been throwing out two seconds worth of perfectly good food!

  22. Gorilla Gender Bias? by milo_Gwalthny · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if they ran this experiment by gender. When I'm watching the guys on TV throw the ball between themselves and at the hoop I never seem to notice my wife walking into the room and talking at me.

    She, OTOH, notices everything. And remembers.

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    Milo
  23. Gah!! Thames Water by shabble · · Score: 2, Informative
    From the article:
    CHEMISTRY
    The Coca-Cola Company of Great Britain, for using advanced technology to convert liquid from the River Thames into Dasani, a transparent form of water, which for precautionary reasons has been made unavailable to consumers.
    I think if you look at the Guardian article more closely, it implies they used water supplied by the company called Thames Water, not water from The Thames:
    [...]It goes something like this: take Thames Water from the tap in your factory in Sidcup, Kent; put it through a purification process[...]
    I do hope the people who selected these aren't doing any research papers on anything important.
  24. Dr. Turvey was one of my professors by ayden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm shocked and amazed that my former professor won an Ig in Physics.

    I graduated from UCONN in 1990 with a Bachelor's in Psychology. Dr. Turvey taught perhaps the most interesting class in my experience at UCONN: Learning Theory. The department at that time was in split into factions, one espousing the usual sensation drives perception while the other (led by Dr. Turvey) held that direct perception was a better model. Interesting note, the direct perception group was using hard science and mathematics to prove their theories, something very unusual for what is perceived to be a "soft science".

    BTW, does anybody know why the Ig ceremony is off schedule this year? They are usually held on the first Thursday of October, but in this case were held on the last Thursday of September.

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    "I'm The Bounty Bear. I will find him anywhere. I'm searching."
  25. SEP field by RevDobbs · · Score: 2, Insightful
    PSYCHOLOGY
    Daniel Simons of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and Christopher Chabris of Harvard University, for demonstrating that when people pay close attention to something, it's all too easy to overlook anything else -- even a man in a gorilla suit.

    This is hardly original work... I think it was well established by Douglas Adams, though he refered to it as a "Somebody Else's Problem Field". If you're busy counting balls, the gorilla must be Somebody Else's Problem, and thus goes unnoticed by you. http://www.artpolitic.org/infopedia/se/SEP_field.h tml explains the concept nicely.

  26. To foil the buttered toast rule... by TFGeditor · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...simply butter the toast on the wrong side.

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    Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
  27. Re:There are 2 types of country by NonSequor · · Score: 3, Funny

    You can summarize the first type of country as "God bless America and my family" and the second type of country as "Let's get drunk and have unprotected sex in a barn."

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    My only political goal is to see to it that no political party achieves its goals.
  28. Re:Country music suicide enhancer? by ArsSineArtificio · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Ah, poor rural whites. The last group that it's okay to be racist to.

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  29. Since the combover is patented... by petepac · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...does Donnald Trump own them a licensing fee for using it while on TV?

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    >> Practice Safe Hex
  30. Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul by Red+Pointy+Tail · · Score: 3, Informative

    The 5 second rule has been covered by /. more than a year ago here.

  31. Not water from the Thames by awol · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not water from the Thames, it is water from a company called "Thames Water" that provides water in the UK (originally from the Thames river valley) I would imagine that none of this water is from the Thames itself, and certainly the catchment area and resevoirs are much more widely distributed than just the Thames.

    As the original paper points out, tap water is actually validated to a much higher standard than all of that bottled crap people pay for.

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    "The first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole is stop digging."
  32. Dogs rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    As a long time dog owner I know that any food that touches the floor is the legal property of the dog.

  33. Re:It's not tap water by JDevers · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not really as hard to standardize a "taste" for water as you might think. They all start off with different water sources, but when they send it through reverse osmosis they are pretty much left with pure H20, then they can add in their trace minerals that give it the mouthfeel they are after. I would actually be amazed if it DIDN'T all taste the same...

  34. Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul by Like2Byte · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, right!

    Here's a scenario for you stecoop. You're standing in the crowded men's room - late into the evening - at your favorite local bar knowing these people can't pee straight sober much less drunk. You brought your beer with you; because, God forbid, someone steal your drink.

    As you're waiting in line to pee, some drunk opens the door into you causing you to spill your drink.

    Here's your question: Which puddle do you lick up? You have four seconds to decide.

  35. Re:Proper definition/clarification of 5-second rul by stecoop · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hmm, that would fall under Section 1 paragraph II - heading A - The Village Idiot.

    The owner would be the village idiot for these reasons:
    1) You're standing in front of the door
    2) You brought your beer to the bathroom
    3) You didn't finish your drink *before* going to the bathroom
    4) You are walking in pee
    5) You're in crowded men's room

    Possible Remedies
    1) Pee in your beer bottle to rectify anyone from stealing your beer in the future
    2) Finish drink before going to bathroom
    3) Plan on going to the bathroom before ordering drink
    4) Don't walk in Pee
    5) Don't take drink to bathroom.
    6) Don't stand in front of a bathroom door
    7) Let the dog have it - or you're the village idiot.

  36. Somebody Elses Problem (SEP) field by Punchinello · · Score: 2, Funny
    The gorilla experiment proves that the SEP Field in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy actually works!!

    Once again, science fiction becomes science fact.

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  37. Re:It's not tap water by Desert+Raven · · Score: 2, Insightful

    but wherever you go in the north american continent, a bottle of coke will always taste exactly like every other bottle of coke, and that's a phenominal feat.

    Don't travel much, do you?

    I used to be able to identify the bottling plant by the taste of a bottle of Coke. I've been living in one place too long now to be able to do that any more, but I can still taste the difference when I make the occasional trip.

  38. Re:Flouridated water is BS by RapmasterT · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ok, try this one then.

    Ask your dentist to reaffirm that statement.

    Then ask him why the miniscule amount (flouride is toxic after all) of flouride added to drinking water is so much more effective than the flouride in toothpaste, which is a much higher concentration. Not to mention the fact that one is scrubbed into your teeth, and the other has brief, limited contact before it's swallowed.

    If he can't answer that, or gives a lame response about "both" being the key, ask if maybe...just maybe...that the widespread flouridation of toothpaste at about the same time that drinking water started getting it, might be responsible for the overall increase in oral health.

    Or maybe people just brush their teeth more these days than 50 years ago.

    We have flouride in drinking water because it's easy, and some is better than none. But pretending that people who otherwise practice decent toothcare are having decay because the water wasn't flouridated is ridiculous.