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Fantastic Four Animated Series

pillageplunder writes "CNN is reporting that Marvel Enterprises has cut a deal with Frances Antefilms Productions to make an animated TV Series based on the Marvel superheros.

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  1. Four again, and again, and again.. by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Informative

    No doubt to capitalize on the film (2005). (Which will hopefully turn out better than an earlier try (1994) Of course, us late boom kids will remember this animated series and try to overlook this one (1978), when PC and non-violence destroyed Saturday morning TV ("Oh dear, children might see Johnny erupt in flames and try to emulate their animated role model and pour gasoline all over themselves and strike a match! Won't someone please think of the children!')

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    1. Re:Four again, and again, and again.. by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Interesting
      God.

      The '60's FF, Captain America and Spiderman....
      SLIDESHOWS! Some were taken from Jack Kirby panels, with an almost Gilliam-style of cut-and-paste animation applied.

      I worshiped this stuff at 4-5-6 years.

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    2. Re:Four again, and again, and again.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, read the imdb link you posted. It tells us that the Human Torch character was "just not legally available for use in these cartoons" because the TV rights had already been optioned.
      It wasn't political correctness, it was legal hassles.

  2. one or four? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Title says "four animated series".
    Blurb says "an animated series".

  3. Hrm... by GR1NCH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I first read this I was pretty excited... but to be honest I'm not so sure now. It seems like lately cartoon series' are really lacking. I mean look at the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles compared to the old one... They chopped out so much of what make the Turtles so cool. I think its because they tried to adapt them more to pop culture. Hopefully they won't do the same to the Fantastic 4.

    Then again, maybe I'm just getting old.

    1. Re:Hrm... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
      When I first read this I was pretty excited... but to be honest I'm not so sure now. It seems like lately cartoon series' are really lacking. I mean look at the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles compared to the old one... They chopped out so much of what make the Turtles so cool. I think its because they tried to adapt them more to pop culture. Hopefully they won't do the same to the Fantastic 4.

      Maybe if Fox picks it up, we'll see Ralphie on the Simpsons douse himself with lighter fluid...

      Ralphie: "Look! I'm The Human Torch! Ha Ha Ha!"
      Chief Wiggum: "Hu hu hu! That's cute, Ralphie, now drop the book of matches. Ha ha ha! Ralphie, drop the matches.."
      Ralphie: "Whee!" *scritch* FOOM!

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    2. Re:Hrm... by Masker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wait a minute. You're complaining because TMNT looks all chopped up, and you think you're getting old?

      Christ. About 6 years ago, MTV started showing Speed Racer re-runs, and I thought: "Cool! I can relive part of my past by watching Speed Racer again! But, Pops, I know I can win the transcontinental race!"

      After trying to watch an episode, I realized that:

      1) There is no coherent plot to a Speed Racer episode; it's just a bunch of random clips all spliced together.
      2) I still didn't know if Trixie was Speed's sister, cousin, lover, whatever. And what was her relationship to Spike, the mechanic?
      3) Somehow I tolerated Chim-chim and the little brother (can't recall the name just now), but I don't know for the life of me how.
      4) You just can't go back.

      So, I know I'm getting old & crusty, but I think that if you watched TMNT as a kid, you're probably still too young to gripe about it. Sorry.

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    3. Re:Hrm... by Bull999999 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I still didn't know if Trixie was Speed's sister, cousin, lover, whatever.

      Maybe it was all of the above?

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    4. Re:Hrm... by AgentFred76 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It seems to me that movies like this have a higher possible failure rate due to the fact that the intended audience is split. Explanation: Fantastic four was a comic book decades ago when the adventures and characters seemed "Fatastical" and the enemies were distinct abstractions of curent relevant conditions. Now take those characters commit to the formula of failure: Old characters, in a modern setting with old enemies with agendas that no longer fit the current times. However... I think that given the current uncertain and violent world condition these situations could certainly be viable. And I'm not about to rule out the fact that escaping into an old favorite is a good cure for the occasional stressful day. :-)

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    5. Re:Hrm... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Interesting
      There's no coherence to most Japanese stuff. The ambiguousness is there, deal. Stop worrying about it...it's a symptom of the Western mind.

      Yeah, TMNT sucked pretty badly...I can't understand how anyone liked it. It's a pretty freaking far cry to call it 'classic'. The comic was okay, though, although when it was out and I was 15, I was a bit old for comic books.

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  4. What will they think of next? by tapin · · Score: 3, Funny
    What will they think of next? Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends?

    Maybe they'll go completely out on a limb and use Iceman or Spider-Woman.

    It'd be even better if Stan Lee did the narration.

    Boy, I can't wait!

  5. Flying bathtub again? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder will the Fantastic Car be the same flying bathtub I remember from the old Fantasitc Four animated series. Anyone remember that? Gawd it was lame!

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  6. Capitalism at it's finest... by Dominatus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "What we are trying to do with our major brands is to support them in every way possible," Marvel Studios chairman and CEO Avi Arad said. "To support the franchise between sequels, we'll have the animated series, the video games (through Activision) and the merchandise licensing. We are just elated to be reintroducing this huge property." And by "support" they obviously mean "suck dry"

  7. Fantastic Four: The animated series by BobWeiner · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A Fantastic Four animated cartoon would be great -- tho no doubt the powers at be at Marvel will some how bastardize the TV version. Still, it's better to see the focus on characters other than the X-Men and Spiderman.

    Forget the whales, and bring back Power Man and Iron Fist!

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  8. Re:I can't fucking believe this story. by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I can't fucking believe you people. Free speech is DEAD now that Indymedia has been raided and you guys want to talk about the Fantastic Four? For God's sake, people, GET SOME PRIORITIES!!
    Er, the Indymedia story has already been covered in the last article. What do you want? Another posting of the same article? Or are you trying to impersonate the Human Torch with your flaming?

    'Insightful' my ass!

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  9. Forget the Human Torch... by ewtrowbr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bring back Herbie the Robot!!!

  10. Show a little respect by lavar78 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Isn't this just like the Justice League series on Cartoon network, with Marvel characters? Wow, They're original.
    A FF cartoon may not be all that original, but the FF is the group that put Marvel Comics on the map and revitalized the entire industry. Even Superman, Batman, and the rest of the Justice League owe a great deal to the Fantastic Four.
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    1. Re:Show a little respect by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Informative
      A FF cartoon may not be all that original, but the FF is the group that put Marvel Comics on the map and revitalized the entire industry. Even Superman, Batman, and the rest of the Justice League owe a great deal to the Fantastic Four.

      Fantastic 4 began, IIRC in the 60's. Batman and Superman date at least to the 30's, Wonder Woman the 40's. Fantastic 4 was effectively Marvel's answer to DC (original name: Detective Comics)

      Marvel kinda imploded between the late 80's and early 90's, verging on bankruptcy, when the comics market collapsed (like so many other fad markets) after overheating on about 47 million X characters and all their own lines of comics. Eventually they did some house cleaning and had some goofy war to re-establish a manageable core of characters, about as shameful as DC's death of Superman.

      can't believe I actually know this crap...

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    2. Re:Show a little respect by Wildfire+Darkstar · · Score: 5, Informative

      Erm, no. Not really.

      The 1950s were a really bad decade for comics, as publishers substantially scaled back their output, and then the publicy outcry over some percieved link between comics and juvenile deliquency that led to the creation of the Comics Code Authority. All this is true, but the fact of the matter is that the situation had massive improved by the end of the decade.

      DC led the resurgence of the market by reviving a number of its older, 1940s era properties. The first among these was the Flash, but that was followed, in short order, by others, like Green Lantern, Hawkman, the Atom, and so on (Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman were, of course, still around, being just about the only characters to survive through the "dry" years). By 1960, things were looking good enough for DC to revive the Justice Society of America, which had been its main superhero team back in the 1940s. Updated to feature the new characters, and retitled the Justice League of America, it premiered in 1960, and was an immediate hit, moving very quickly from occassional appearances in one of DC's "showcase" books (Brave and the Bold) to its own title.

      The Fantastic Four, though quite successful, were latecomers to all of this. The traditional story goes that the publisher of Timely Comics, Martin Goodman, was playing a round of golf with Jack Liebowitz, DC's publisher. Liebowitz was bragging about the success of Justice League, and so Goodman's response was to immediately go to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, who were on Timely's staff, and tell them to come up with Timely's own version of the JLA, changed just enough so as to avoid raising the ire of DC's lawyers.

      Published under the new name of Marvel, Fantastic Four was the publisher's first big success since the 1940s, and propelled Lee and Kirby to the forefront of the genre. It allowed Timely/Marvel to start investing more effort into superhero comics, and paved the way for such titles as Spider-Man, the Hulk, and X-Men. So it was important, in the long view, but it did not save the industry. It was merely another entry into a comic book renaissance that was already well under way by that time.

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  11. Correction by eseiat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "What we are trying to do with our major brands is to support them in every way possible," Marvel Studios chairman and CEO Avi Arad said.

    This should actually read, "What we are trying to do with our major brands is whore them out to all suitors and make as much money as possible from them, thereby turning everyone's childhood memories against their pocket books, and allowing us to swim in the vast pools of money we have always dreamed of."

  12. Does this indicate there's nothing new to do? by goneutt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay, there have been plenty of bad, and a few good, take offs of marvel comics. Is the proliferation of marvel movies because it's profitable or because they can't write a new idea.

    I hope they actually kill people in the new animated series. If batman woulda just frick'n killed the joker he woulda saved gotham millions.(This is why Cowboy Bebop kicks ass)

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  13. as long as... by mforbes · · Score: 3, Funny

    they don't 'baby-ize' it like that godawful teen titans series.

    Honestly, I take umbrage at that piece of crap. The comic I remember from back in the 80s was dark and ominous-- not cute and cuddly.

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  14. Am I Alone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone else except me ever wonder about Mr. Fantastic and many ways his stretching power can be applied in sexual ways?

    1. Re:Am I Alone? by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why does that remind me of a particular shock site? I can't believe how slashdot has corrupted my mind.

  15. Who was fan of this comic series? by anactofgod · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I dunno. I never could get into this series of comic books. X-men, Spiderman, Hulk, The West Coast Avengers...I liked almost every other Marvel series better than F4. Two of the four team members (Reed and Sue Richards) had lame superpowers and the plots seemed kinda hokey and dated.

    Johnny was alright. And Ben Grimm/Thing was good in his own series...esp those times he faced off with The Hulk.

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  16. Re:I can't fucking believe this story. by pavon · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't fucking believe you people. Free speech is DEAD now that Indymedia has been raided and you guys want to talk about the Fantastic Four? For God's sake, people, GET SOME PRIORITIES!!

    No you have it all wrong. It's times like this when the Fantastic Four are needed more than ever to protect our liberty! At last a returning glimmer of hope on the horizon! Onward our brave superheros - Onward to freedom!

  17. What we REALLY need... by BaltikaTroika · · Score: 2, Funny
    Who cares about the Fantastic Four? What the people are truly demanding is a live-action Q-Bert movie!

    BaltikaTroika

  18. Remember when... by nsample · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...an "animated TV series" used to be abbreviated as "cartoon?" Those were the days.

  19. Will it be as good as the old Spiderman cartoon? by jerkychew · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tell your Tivo to grab "Spiderman and His Amazing Friends", the old cartoon series that (I believe) Fox Family is re-running. It's awesome. I don't mean awesome in that it's a good show; I mean awesome in an MST3K-type way.

    Basically, Spiderman has 2 friends/ roommates. Firestarter is this hot chick that turns into a fireball at a moment's notice and burns everything in her path. As an added bonus, she has a permanent cameltoe.

    Then there's Iceman, the other roommate who can (you guessed it) turn into a frozen bald guy that looks strikingly like Silver Surfer, and freeze everything in his path.

    The best part about this show (besides the aforementioned cameltoe) is the shoestring budget it must have had. The voice of Iceman is the same dude that voiced Fred in the Scooby Doo cartoon. But what's funny is that he's also the voice of virtually every erroneous character in the show. He doesn't even try to mask it. New bad guy? Give him Iceman's voice. Shopkeeper at the local store? Iceman.

    The show is great fun to watch, especially while drinking. I highly recommend it to everyone. Let's hope that this F4 cartoon is slightly higher quality... or if it sucks, let's hope it's the same level of sucktitude that envelops Spidey and his amazing friends. Either way, we win.

  20. How about... by Aexia · · Score: 2

    Unbreakable?

    There was also this little known art-house flick.

    Roger Ebert seemed to like this film.

  21. Re:Will it be as good as the old Spiderman cartoon by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 3, Funny

    Firestarter is this hot chick that turns into a fireball

    That's FireSTAR, you philistine!

  22. Anyone else? by BackwardHatClub · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Am I the only one here who remembers a Fantastic Four series from about 10 years ago? Ran back to back with Iron Man usually? In my market it was on Sunday mornings at 6AM (great time slot). I just looked through this whole thread and I didn't see one mention of this cartoon, now I'm wondering if I'm the only one who remembers it.

  23. I always thought that... by Xaoswolf · · Score: 4, Funny
    The fantast 4 were gayest superheroes ever...

    Lets take a look.

    You have a man who can stretch any part of his body

    A man who is rock hard

    and a man who is rather flaming

    And none of the team can see the only woman because she is invisible.

    Totally gay...

  24. Re:Hrm...start Comic Book Guy Mode... by DavidBrown · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These movies are really ONLY for the established fanbase, and for those who feel a sense of nostalgia when they were in the fan base. That's why "Daredevil" didn't do so well - all four Daredevil fans watched the file, several times each, and two of them made webpages dissecting the plot and character changes made while bringing Daredevil to the big screen, but that just wasn't enough to carry the film. If you didn't already care about Daredevil (seriously, he's a third-string Marvel hero for God's sake, and except for the Elektra saga, hardly deserved his own book), you wouldn't bother seeing it. I went only because I know one of the actors in it (who, incidentally, did a bang-up job, but I'm not here to drop names).

    What were the exceptions to comicbook films that suck? Superman (everyone loves Superman, but even the third film was really, really bad) and Batman (everyone remembers watching Adam West and Burt Ward on the TV show, but after a couple of films, this series went deep south too). Spiderman and X-Men (the first string Marvel books that everyone who has read comics has read). Every other adaptation has been a niche-market film. There are alot of great comics out there (Grant Morrison run of Doom Patrol, Neil Gaiman's Sandman, Thieves and Kings, insert your own here), but only the comics with established widespread appeal are going to succeed in the theater.

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  25. Any chance of seeing the 1994 Fantastic Four Movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The first Fantastic Four was made in 1994 but never released because unbeknown to the cast and crew, the movie was never intended to be released, and was made only because the studio who owned the rights to make a Fantastic Four movie would have lost the rights if they did not begin production by a certain date.

  26. The old Spiderman cartoon rocked!! by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 2, Informative

    That is still my favorite cartoon from when i was a kid. That and G.I.Joe (a real american hero, you know - and knowing is half the battle).

    I was pretty impressed with the new Spiderman CG series that appeared on MTv after the first movie. Besides being voiced by some bad choices - Ian Ziering from Beverly Hills 90210 voiced Harry, and Jewel was MJ, and Peter Parker was voiced by Doogie Howser MD it was a good series that served as a good arc between movies.

    However, they did have some fresh villians - one of the things that the first Spiderman series (with Iceman and Firestorm), and the animation was really cool - especially all of the self casting shadows.

    If this new cartoon (let's face it, they're still cartoons) is as good as that.

    I also think you can get the new series on DVD now.

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  27. it won't be as cool... by sammy+baby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No matter what they do, the show won't be as cool as the spoof of the Fantastic Four on The Venture Brothers. Here's a thought: ever wonder what it would be like to be constantly on fire? They did. It'd suck.

  28. Sean Baby's Superfriend's Page by conan776 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Obligatory link to Sean Baby's Superfriend's Page.

    If you recall that show, click that link and prepare to crack up.

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      *returns from reading seanbaby's page*

      Oh god, it hurts from trying not to laugh my head off while still at work. :)

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  29. It's been done... by Sean+the+Impaler · · Score: 2, Informative


    http://www.tvtome.com/FantasticFour/ (circa 1994)

    And maybe once more before that???

    http://www.tvtome.com/NewFantasticFour/ (circa 1978)

    But wait, there's more!

    http://www.tvtome.com/FantasticFour_1967/ (circa 1967)

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