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A Projection Display For Your Pocket

lub writes "The German Fraunhofer-Instituts für Siliziumtechnologie is developing a pocket beamer. It uses a laser beam and a rotating mirror to display the image. Another laser and a photo diode is used to verify whether the displayed image is shown correctly, so the electronics can adjust the image when the beamer moves. No colors yet; 320x240 in nice shades of red is what they have now, but higher resolutions and color might be implemented later. I want this in my BlackBerry!"

162 comments

  1. Woohoo! by dirkdidit · · Score: 3, Funny

    Finally a Nintendo Virtual Boy that I can share and experience with my friends!

    1. Re:Woohoo! by TWX · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Finally a Nintendo Virtual Boy that I can share and experience with my friends!"

      Dammit! I was just about to make that joke too!

      Are the seizures and migraine headaches a standard feature, or optional?

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    2. Re:Woohoo! by sarah_kerrigan · · Score: 1

      I guess the reddish shades are there to make you remember the Berserker mode in Doom... So please do not complain :-P

      Red kisses ;-)
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    3. Re:Woohoo! by PKPerson · · Score: 0

      This would be perfeect for simple text displays (labesl or stock tickers). Anyone know anything about when it will be commercically avalable, and what its uses will be? If you had one of these things, what would you do with it?

    4. Re:Woohoo! by Gentlewhisper · · Score: 1

      I live to look forward to genetic engineered sharks with beamers on their heads!

    5. Re:Woohoo! by Anonymous+Luddite · · Score: 1


      Makes me think of a sweet little girl

    6. Re:Woohoo! by notthe9 · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our genetically engineered shark overlords.

    7. Re:Woohoo! by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      Palour Magic Tricks- I'd get three friends together and we'd make holograms in the rain from our PDAs. Alternatively, I could use a color version for the ultimate pocket presentation system- just use bluetooth to connect it to my IPAQ and a driver to work with Pocket PowerPoint.

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  2. Beamer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is that a beamer in your pocket......

    oh yeah and firsties.

  3. Sprachen ze WHAT? by THESuperShawn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Loosely translated in English (I don't soeak German, but my dog does).

    Beamer for the vest pocket

    A projector in the pocket size is in range: In it a mobile micro mirror develops the picture line for line. In laboratory prototypes researchers could increase its frequency of oscillation and dissolution so far that diagrams and texts appear clearly readable.

    Not much more largely than a piece wuerfelzucker could be the Beamer of the future. Built into Handys would always participate the mini projector - approximately for a PowerPoint presentation in the small circle or the fast view into an on-line journal. In strange cities it could facilitate orientation, by projecting simply a city plan to the next house wall. Still is this future music. Researchers of the institute for Fraunhofer for silicon technology ISIT in Itzehoe however already built a demonstrator for such a tiny equipment. It projects texts and diagrams with a dissolution of 320 x 240 pixels. Heart is a mobile mirror with a diameter of 1,5 millimeters, which can be manufactured as mass product on a chip. It directs a laser beam by speedy changing of its tilting angle, and develops so the picture pixel for pixels.

    "the special at the mirror is its suspension", stresses Ulrich Hofmann. "by a special attachment at two torsion bars the mirror can be tilted around two axles. Thus it can divert a laser beam horizontal and vertically." After each deflection the feathers/springs withdraw the mirror so fast into its initial position that it can be tilted several thousands times per second. Suitably the high mobility the researchers accelerated electronics. It decides within the range of nanoseconds, how it must modulate the laser light, so that each pixel in the correct brightness appears. In order to avoid errors in the projection, a second laser serves as control. It radiates likewise on the mobile mirror; the reflected light meets however a photodiode, which locates, as the mirror tilted. "the mirror changes its position for example by vibrations inadvertently, notices control this", explains Hofmann. "electronics can react then flexibly to it and adapt the picture information accordingly." The system is thereby to a large extent insensitively in relation to disturbances from the outside.

    Still the demonstrator fits into no mobile telephone. "for the test we had not made, say electronics smaller yet to a minimum" Hofmann. That is however one of the next goals of the researchers, who in addition the frequency of the mirror movement and so the dissolution would like to increase. Also in other place it hooks still: As tiny source of light with sufficient life span and leuchtstaerke there are so far only red laser diodes. Within this range the researchers wait now for developments of their colleagues. They however already prepared their system for the multi-color enterprise.

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    1. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by mark-t · · Score: 2, Funny

      seems to me your dog learned German from google's language translation service.

    2. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by THESuperShawn · · Score: 3, Funny

      Right. She's a Golden Retreiver, not a German Shepard. Plus, she spends a lot of time on the computer. Mostly downloading Kitty Porn.

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    3. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      where size of "wuerfelzucker" would be the size of a sugarcube, that's about 0,8 cm / 0.3 inch ...

    4. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by THESuperShawn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That;s pretty 'zucking' small.

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    5. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1

      It directs a laser beam by speedy changing of its tilting angle

      Your dog may speak German, but it sure doesn't speak english. FYI, it's called a friggin' laser beam.

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    6. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure I want to know what a wuerfelzucker is.

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    7. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by cbelt3 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Sounds a lot like a commerical application for 1980's technology called "Adaptive Optics", primarily developed for applications in the Strategic Defense Initiative. Despite the marketing-speak (ok, Kaufmann-sprache), the attraction here should be a commercial application of adaptive-optics-on-Silicon. The display is not intended to be a 'holoprojector', but a more compact projector.

      Combining the AO-Si micromirror assemblies with multi-color lasers Red, Green and Blue lasers (RGB for you guys paying attention) would make for a nice compact projector. Obviously from reading the article, it's all conceptual. Don't plan on having one for at least 1-3 years.

    8. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "I don't soeak German, but my dog does"

      Do you speak English?

    9. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      Mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut.

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    10. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by THESuperShawn · · Score: 2, Funny

      Correct, as previously boted, speak speeks Google Translation. Hence the title of "loosely translated". Man, what gives? Is everyone here a super anal geek or something? Oh, wait....

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    11. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by THESuperShawn · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dude, if my dog spoke english, I wouldn't be posting to strangers on the interweb?

      NO! I would have her warm up for Al Gore on the lecturing circuit.

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    12. Re:Sprachen ze WHAT? by THESuperShawn · · Score: 1

      And stupid is as stupid posts.

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  4. I'm a little confused... by entrigant · · Score: 1

    Anyone else wondering how they got on and the white sheet of paper with a red laser in the image of this device in TFA? :)

    1. Re:I'm a little confused... by entrigant · · Score: 2, Insightful

      God I even previewed it... should previewed the preview.
      Anyone else wondering how they got black on the white sheet of paper with a red laser in the image of this device in TFA? :)

    2. Re:I'm a little confused... by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Funny
      Anyone else wondering how they got black on the white sheet of paper with a red laser

      Lots and lots of red.
      [sniffsniff] "What's that I smell burning?"

    3. Re:I'm a little confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing I'm confused about is how you ever managed to pass English class.

    4. Re:I'm a little confused... by MerlinTheWizard · · Score: 0

      Yep. Not to mention that the projected image is very detailed for such a device and clearly is more than 320x200.

    5. Re:I'm a little confused... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Anyone else wondering how they got black on the white sheet of paper with a red laser in the image of this device in TFA? :)"

      I couldn't hear the explanation because the smoke alarm went off.

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    6. Re:I'm a little confused... by Sandor+at+the+Zoo · · Score: 1

      See the large version of the picture here.

    7. Re:I'm a little confused... by bigberk · · Score: 1
      Anyone else wondering how they got black on the white sheet of paper with a red laser
      The image is NOT real. Looks pretty phony to me (investigate the projector unit itself). The caption also suggests to me that this is just an artist's representation of what could happen, translated, "A vision for the mini projector".
    8. Re:I'm a little confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apart from the fact that this picture seems to be edited: With this beamer you would get black on a white sheet of paper (or white screen) like with any beamer: by not emitting light to that area. With every beamer, the black parts are as "illuminated" as the general surrounding in the room. It's the contrast which makes it apear dark.

  5. photoshop by Hatta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That picture is obviously a photoshop job. Anyone got a real picture?

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    1. Re:photoshop by THESuperShawn · · Score: 1

      No, but according to the picture, looks like even Germans speak Engrish. "A vision for the mini projector: Demonstrate a presentation on business trip times fast."

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    2. Re:photoshop by Jack+Porter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow, it has the ability to project red and BLACK light onto a bright white surface!

    3. Re:photoshop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, it has the ability to project red and BLACK light...

      What is this 'black light' you speak of? I'm assuming that you dind't mean those badly named UV lights?

      Next you'll be telling us that you dream in color too... :)

    4. Re:photoshop by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      Concept photo.

      They probally don't have a working model yet.

    5. Re:photoshop by Retric · · Score: 1

      Or they have a working model but red text looks like shit so they don't feel the need to show it.

  6. English translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant
    1. Re:English translation by yuriismaster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or how about a translation serice that doesnt rely on the currently /.'ed server:

      Google's translation of the MirrorDot mirror

  7. uses... by eobanb · · Score: 0

    I'm thinking that this could eventually replace laptop screens. Somewhere on your laptop you'd have one of these with 1600x1200 resolution and 32-bit colour and you could just project the screen onto any flat surface. It would probably bring down the weight a little bit, and maybe the power requirements of a laptop.

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    1. Re:uses... by joelanders · · Score: 1

      Maybe if instead of the lcd screen they just put a projection screen and the image was somehow projected onto that. Otherwise, I don't see how that could be very convenient in a portable device.

    2. Re:uses... by jomas1 · · Score: 1

      You can add this to the truncated laptop while you are at it:

      http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=63 94

    3. Re:uses... by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Of course, then every laptop would have to come with a little fold-out projection screen because there won't always be flat surface available when traveling.

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    4. Re:uses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Skip ahead a couple of decades... and maybe it projects the image into mid-air, onto a virtual 3-d screen suspended in space in front of you.

    5. Re:uses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      By then they'll have invented SkitzoidVision that lets us see and talk to people and things that aren't really there at all. (You've probably seen a number of time-travellers from the future equipped with this, riding on the bus or asking for non-anachronistic currency.)

    6. Re:uses... by M82A1A · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was going to say that ditching the laptop lcd in favor of this is not a good idea. I am a student and take notes in class on my laptop. I have no flat surface in front of me, so I would have no display!! However, some sort of blank screen attachment would be cool. That way, you could convert the laptop to a movie projector or anything...

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    7. Re:uses... by SpinningAround · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you could combine it with one of those transparent panels they use for autocues. From the front you see the projected image. From the back you see right through it.

    8. Re:uses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Poor bastards from the future probably haven't solved spam and pop-ups either. "Hey buddy, can you spare some local .. HEY! I was talking! No I don't want that! Close, close! What? No, sell Rawlings Inc, they're going Micky Mouse. Unsubscribe! Hey Joe, monsters from the Id, port 19. Hello, yeah, I'm on a time-trip. Damn, pause. Hey, where did he go?"

      French Canadian Bean Soup.

    9. Re:uses... by MikeFM · · Score: 1

      Naw. Direct neural links will be what replaces laptops. Everything else is just a fad. ;)

      I can see this feature being an add-on to a laptop but not replacing the normal laptop screen. It's more likely to create a new market that kills the slow tablet PC market. This would be a possible improvement to the technology that lets devices like cellphones project a virtual keyboard. It could project a virtual touchscreen too and be really small. :)

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    10. Re:uses... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      George, don't make no bull moves. What have you done with him. Oh, Mamma, Mamma, Mamma! Oh, stop it! Stop it!...Oh, Oh, Oh, Sure, sure, Mamma, etc. Has it been in any other newspapers? Now listen Phil, fun is fun. Aha... Please! Papa! What happened to the 16? Oh, oh...he done it? Please...please... John, please. Oh, did you buy the hotel; you promised a million...sure. Get out! I wish I knew. Please make it quick; fast and furious; please... fast and furious. Please help me get out; I'm getting my wind back, thank God! Please, please; oh, please. You will have to, please...tell him, "You got no case." You get ahead with the dot and dash system. Didn't I speak that time last night. Whose number is that in your pocketbook, Phil? 13780. Who was it? Oh!... Please, please... Reserve decision, police, police; Henny and Frankie... Oh, Oh, dog biscuit, and when he is happy he doesn't get snappy... Please, please do this! Henny, Henny, Frankie! You didn't meet him; you didn't even meet me; the glove will fit what I say... Oh, kayiyi, kayiyi! Sure, who cares? When are you through! How do you know this? Well, then... Oh, Cocoa; no... thinks he is a grandpa again and he is jumping around. No, Hoboe and Poboe I think I mean the same thing.
      No. See, George, if we wanted to break the ring. No... please, I get a month. They did it. Come on, cut me off and says you are not to be the in the beneficiary of this will. I will be checked and double-checked and please pull for me.
      Will you pull? Will you pull? These native children make this and sell you the joint. How many good ones and how many bad ones! Please! I had nothing with him; he was a cowboy in one of the...seven days a week fight. No business, no hangout; no friends, nothing; just what you pick up and what you need.
      I don't know. No, don't put anyone near this check; the check. You might have; oh, please. Please do it for me. Let me get up, sir, heh? This is Connie's, isn't it? Uh heh. In the olden days they waited and they waited. Please give me a shot. Please. Oh...Oh...it is from the factory. O.K. Sure, that is bad...well, Oh, go ahead; that happens for crying; I don't want harmony; I want harmony. Oh, mamma, mamma. Who give it to him? Who give it to him? Tony? Let me in the district; ...fire...factory that he was nowhere near. It smoldered. No, No! There are only ten of us and there are ten million fighting somewhere in front of you, so get your onions up and we will throw up the truce flag. Oh, please let me up; Leo, Leo! Oh, yeh! No, No; I don't...please! Please shift me. Police are here; communistic...strike...baloneys...Please; honestly it is a habit I get; sometimes I give it and sometimes I don't. Oh, not; I am all in; say... that settles it. Are you sure? Please, he eats like a little baloney sausage maker. Please, let me get in and eat. Let him harass himself to you and then bother you. Please... Don't ask me to go there; I don't want to. I still don't want him in the path. Please, Leo, Leo; I was looking for someone. Meet my lady, Mrs. Pickford, and I'm sorry I acted that way so soon, already. Sure, it is no need to stage a riot. The sidewalk was in trouble and the bears were in trouble and I broke it up. Please; Oh, mamma! No knock to her, she didn't know. Look; that is it. She let her go the opposite. Oh, tell me. Please, put me in that room room; please keep him in control; my gilt-edge stuff, and those dirty rats have tuned in. Please, Mother, Mother, Mother, please, the reaction is so strong. Oh, mamma, mamma, please don't tear; don't rip; that is something that shouldn't be spoke about; that is right. Please get me up my friends; I know what I speak of. Please, look out, the shooting is a bit wild, and that kind of shooting. Saved a man's life. Oh, Elmer was. No, everything frightening; yes, no payrolls, no walls, no coupons. That would be entirely out; pardon me; oh, yeh! Oh, I forgot I am a plaintiff and not defendant. Look out, look out for him. Please...and he owes me money; he owes everyone money. Why can't he just pull out and g

    11. Re:uses... by CmdrGravy · · Score: 0, Troll

      George, don't treffen keinen Stier Maßnahmen. Was Sie getan mit ihm haben. OH-, Mamma, Mamma, Mamma! OH-, stoppen ihn! Stoppen Sie it!... OH-, OH-, OH-, sicheres, sicheres, Mamma, usw.. Ist es in irgendwelchen anderen Zeitungen gewesen? Hören jetzt Phil, Spaß ist Spaß. Aha... Bitte! Papa! Was geschah bis die 16? OH-, OH-... er getan ihm? Bitte... bitte... John, bitte. OH-, kauften Sie das Hotel; Sie versprachen Million... sicher. Gehen Sie hinaus! Ich wünsche, daß ich wußte. Bilden Sie es bitte schnell; fasten Sie und wütend; bitte... schnell und wütend. Helfen Sie mir bitte hinauszugehen; I'm, die meinen Wind zurückbekommen, danken Gott! Bitte bitte; OH-, bitte. Sie werden müssen, zu gefallen... erklären ihm daß, "You kein case." erhielt; Sie erhalten voran mit dem Punkt- und Schlagsystem. Didn't I sprechen dieses mal gestern Abend. Wer Zahl ist die in Ihrem Taschenbuch, Phil? 13780. Wer war es? OH-!... Bitte bitte... Reserveentscheidung, Polizei, Polizei; Henny und Frankie... OH-, OH-, Hundekuchen und wenn er er glücklich ist, doesn't erhalten snappy... Bitte tun Sie bitte dies! Henny, Henny, Frankie! Sie didn't treffen ihn; Sie didn't treffen mich sogar; der Handschuh paßt, was ich sage... OH-, kayiyi, kayiyi! Sicher, interessiert sich wer? Wenn Sie durch sind! Wie wissen Sie dieses? Gut dann... OH-, Kakao; kein... denkt, daß er ein Großvater wieder ist und er herum springt. Nr., Hoboe und Poboe, die ich denke, daß ich die gleiche Sache bedeute. Nein. Sehen Sie, George, wenn wir den Ring brechen wollten. Kein... bitte, erhalte ich einen Monat. Sie taten ihn. Weg angegangen, sagt Schnitt ich und daß Sie nicht im Begünstigten von diesem sein sollen werden. Ich werde und für mich bitte zu ziehen überprüft und doppeltkontrolliert. Ziehen Sie? Ziehen Sie? Diese gebürtigen Kinder bilden dieses und verkaufen Sie die Verbindung. Wieviele gute und wieviele schlechte! Bitte! Ich hatte nichts mit ihm; er war ein Cowboy in einem der... sieben Tage ein Woche Kampf. Kein Geschäft, keine Kneipe; keine Freunde, nichts; gerade was Sie aufheben und was Sie benötigen. I don't wissen. Nr., don't setzte jedermann nahe dieser Überprüfung; die Überprüfung. Sie konnten haben; OH-, bitte. Tun Sie es bitte für mich. Lassen Sie mich aufstehen, geehrter Herr, heh? Dieses ist Connie's, isn't es? Uh heh. An den alten Tagen warteten sie und sie warteten. Geben Sie mir einen Schuß bitte. Bitte. OH-... OH-... ist er von der Fabrik. O.K. Sure, das füehlt... gut, OH-, gehen voran schlecht; das geschieht für das Schreien; I don't wünschen Harmonie; Ich wünsche Harmonie. OH-, Mamma, Mamma. Wer geben ihn ihm? Wer geben ihn ihm? Tony? Lassen Sie mich im Bezirk; ... Feuer... Fabrik, daß er nirgendwo nahe war. Sie smoldered. Nr., Nr.! Es gibt nur 10 von uns und es gibt 10 Million irgendwo kämpfend vor Ihnen, also erhalten Sie Ihre Zwiebeln hoch und wir werfen herauf die Waffenstillstandmarkierungsfahne. OH-, lassen Sie mich bitte oben; Löwe, Löwe! OH-, yeh! Nr., Nr.; I don't... bitte! Verschieben Sie mich bitte. Polizei ist hier; communistic... Schlag... baloneys... bitte; ehrlich ist es eine Gewohnheit, die ich erhalte; manchmal gebe ich es und manchmal I don't. OH-, nicht; Aller ich bin innen; dieses Sagen... Settles es. Sind Sie sicher? Bitte ißt er wie ein kleiner baloney Wursthersteller. Bitte lassen Sie mich innen erhalten und essen. Lassen Sie ihn zu Ihnen sich bedrängen und Sie dann stören. Bitte... Don't bitten mich, dort zu gehen; I don't wünschen zu. I ruhiges don't wünschen ihn im Weg. Bitte Löwe, Löwe; Ich suchte jemand. Treffen Sie meine Dame, Mrs Pickford, und trauriges I'm fungierte ich so so bald, bereits. Sicher, ist es keine Notwendigkeit, einen Aufstand zu inszenieren. Der Bürgersteig war in der Mühe und die Bären waren in der Mühe und ich brach sie oben. Bitte; OH-, Mam

  8. sorry in advance... by dirvish · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is that a pocket beamer in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

    1. Re:sorry in advance... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      The projection is of Londo Mollari, and the Narns do not look happy to see you.

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    2. Re:sorry in advance... by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Is that a pocket beamer in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?"

      Okay, I've seen this joke a few times now, but no "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi" references. What's wrong with you people?

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    3. Re:sorry in advance... by Caseyscrib · · Score: 1
      Well, because the article is German, the more appropriate question would be:

      Ist das ein Tasche beamer in Ihrer Tasche, oder sind Sie gerade glücklich, mich zu sehen?

  9. Obligatory by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1, Funny

    Is that a projector in your pocket, or did I just wake up in a Star Wars movie?

    LK

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  10. I haven't RTFA yet, but.. by SledgeHBK · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anything would be better than watching the stupid slideshow before movies. All the boring awful ads and quote from Cher and Queen Latifah....

    I was thinking, hey, bring in my own little projector.

    Jesus, am I talking right now?

  11. A dangerous crime-device! by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Funny
    Imagine the horrific new crime possible with this gadget: Drive-by PowerPoint presentations!

    This device should be surpressed for the good of all humanity. Think of the children!

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    1. Re:A dangerous crime-device! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it would be like spam in your window. even if you closed the blinds, it would come through. they could even reverse the image so it's readable to you! oh no! you can already do this with a projector at night! :(

  12. In my pocket by Kohath · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who's going to want to watch a display in my pocket?

    1. Re:In my pocket by Kohath · · Score: 1

      And, more importantly, onto what part of my anatomy is it projecting a picture?

    2. Re:In my pocket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If it's in your back pocket, wide-screen.

  13. mirrordot mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  14. Only 25 Posts by EspressoMachine · · Score: 1

    And already /.'ed

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  15. Colour..... by reality-bytes · · Score: 4, Informative

    Colour projection is obviously going to rely on having either 3 base colour lasers (red, green, blue) or having a full-spectrum white.

    In the world of lasers, Red is the cheapest right now with Green a close second.

    However, when you get to Blue lasers, the price is significantly higher and then White lasers require you to sell your granny to afford them.

    I'd like to be wrong but a system like this will probably stay monochrome for a while yet.

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    1. Re:Colour..... by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      Speak after me:
      THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A WHITE LASER.
      by definition.

      @lameness-filter: i know caps are yelling, that why i use them here.

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    2. Re:Colour..... by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      A laser beam contains coherent lightwaves of a single frequency. I would like to know how you propose to make white light with that :)

      Regardless, I think you are right that it will be a while ebfore we see a practical and anywhere enar affordable colour version of it.

    3. Re:Colour..... by mark-t · · Score: 1
      A white laser is a laser with the property of being able to, on-the-fly, adjust the frequency of it to being virtually any other frequency in the visible spectrum, while still retaining all of its properties that make it qualify as laser light.

      I remember reading something about this last year, but I'm sorry I don't have the link.

      Technically you're right. The color isn't truly "white", but if you can cause the laser to rotate between red, green, and blue laser light so fast that the eye merges them together anyways, it may as well be... right?

    4. Re:Colour..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BS. So called 'white' lasers do exist, but they are really called RGB, and are three lasers in one. What did you expect ?

      Available e.g. at www.hb-laser.com.

      Prices from 50K$.

    5. Re:Colour..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Three laser beams in one can be used to make a single white beam. It really works, I've seen them in operation. Hot stuff this year at dance events etc. But then a nerdy wouldn't know, eh ?

      (google for rgb laser and you'll see)

    6. Re:Colour..... by imsabbel · · Score: 1

      yeah, but dont forget: It isnt white, its just 3 emmission lines that look white on a perfect white surface.
      You still get chromatic aberation, dispersion,ect.
      Claiming that it is a "white laser" only gives people wrong ideas...

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    7. Re:Colour..... by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      Well yes, but that doesn't make it a white laser still. You are right of course that you can make white light that way fo course.

    8. Re:Colour..... by yorkpaddy · · Score: 1

      I'd rather have a green laser. Just seems a bit more apealing, I don't ever remember a Red on Black terminal

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    9. Re:Colour..... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      That's not too relevant given that you only need one of each. It's a projector, not a flat panel.

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    10. Re:Colour..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is a site with a "white" laser. Basically they came up with a way to turn the frequency to just about anything around the visible spectrum.

      http://www.stp-gateway.de/Archiv/archiv782-e.htm l

    11. Re:Colour..... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      I'd like to be wrong but a system like this will probably stay monochrome for a while yet.

      Depends on what you want to pay.

      Red and green diode lasers into the 100mw range are readily available for around $500 retail. The blue is in the $1k-2k range.

      I would easily pay $5K street for a doodad like this that would do 2048x1024 at 70Hz or better if it was bright enough and had good photo-realism, contrast should be excellent since it is off/on with the mirror. I wouldn't mind it weighing 10lbs and being as big as an encyclopedia, I certainly don't need it in my cell phone.

      10 years from now, I could see it in a $100 cell phone, but in the meantime they don't have to get anywhere near that price-point or unit size to have a viable product.

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    12. Re:Colour..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So called 'white' lasers do exist, but they are really called RGB, and are three lasers in one.

      That's not the only kind of white light laser. You only need a laser that puts out light in enough of the spectrum. Some have significantly more than 3 frequencies. (I've worked with one that had something like 10.)

    13. Re:Colour..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You are clearly not a laser expert.

      http://www.laser2000.co.uk/lasers/gas/rgb.htm
      explains the concept decently, and I'm too lazy to look harder. Note that it describes two distinct technologies for white-light lasers.

    14. Re:Colour..... by ahecht · · Score: 1

      White is not a frequency! White, as seen by our eyes, is a combination of three distinct frequencies.

    15. Re:Colour..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      White lasers require you to sell your granny to afford them.

      I really like my granny, how about I trade you two siblings for a working full color in pocket projection system? If you can hook it up to a Nintendo DS I'll throw in my first born child as well :)

    16. Re:Colour..... by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      Speaking as a Laser-American, I consider this racist!

  16. Similar device by Bibo · · Score: 2, Informative

    At technology review they have an article about a similar device.
    http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/12/dem o1204.asp?p=1

    1. Re:Similar device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Symbol also produced a working example of a similar device long ago..
      href=http://lfw.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Displ ay.cfm?Section=ARTCL&ARTICLE_ID=182575&VERSION_NUM =1

  17. as much as i want to see one in action by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 0

    as much as i want to see one in action, the next james bond film comes out next year - i'm sure we will see it being used in all kind of great situations there.

  18. Here is another source with picture by B2382F29 · · Score: 2, Informative
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  19. Something similar in Finland by rufusdufus · · Score: 1

    Just the other day I was looking up battery powered projectors, and found another company that is working on a small battery powered projector.
    I'm imagining a PC that actually stays in your pocket, the projector on your belt with a (as yet magical) elastic display that pops up, and a collapsible keyboard that roles into the buckle like a tape measure.

    1. Re:Something similar in Finland by LeBlanc_Joey · · Score: 1

      I was just thinking, this would go perfectly with one of those projected keyboards, the kind where you just tap the table...

      You could set the little box near a wall and have a full sized keyboard, and display, and the best thing is the tech for this seems to exist right now.

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  20. patent abusers by ChipMonk · · Score: 1

    How long until they claim that overhead projectors violate their patent on "arbitrary static image projection"?

  21. Er, I dunno by itwerx · · Score: 1

    I dunno, the tilty mirror thingy is eye-catching and the little laser's cute an' all but it's gonna take more than that to make my pocket project!

    (Throw in a booth babe or two though and maybe we can work something out... :)

  22. Re:Heh by Nehi+the+Ganchark · · Score: 1

    Please mod this overbaked comment down. I was blinded by the possibilities of projected pocket porn...

  23. One granny for sale:-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Just gimme that white laser!

  24. Distracting nuisance by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

    I want this in my BlackBerry!

    I don't want this in your Blackberry, or anything else either.

    I own a movie theatre and kids and teenagers with those damn laser pointers are enough of a distraction and cause for customer complaints already, thank you very much.

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    1. Re:Distracting nuisance by The+Only+Druid · · Score: 1

      People still do that? Back in my hometown, Miami, that was a problem like seven or eight years ago at at least one major theater. The owner (or whoever was in charge, at least) had the smart idea of smacking a small video camera up above the center of the screen, aimed at the audience, feeding to the projection booth. They could clearly see whenever someone did it, and nailed them. I was there a few times where someone got caught, and it was fucking hi-larious. I dunno if they only had the cameras in a few screens, all of them, or what, but it had the desired effect. Besides, I haven't seen that in any theater I've been in, for years...I'm not saying you're lying or anything, I'm just shocked that its still happening somewhere.

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  25. Revolutionary. by eric434 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If they can manufacture this cheap, then it will revolutionize laser lightshows. Effectively, this is a closed-loop scanning galvanometer capable of 30K+ speeds -- and current scanners with similar capabilities cost thousands of dollars per axis. They're a lot bigger too.

    If you replace the dinky red diode with a few hundred milliwatts of green, then guess what? Laser show in your pocket, at a price that any would-be laserist can afford. Not to mention all the applications in laser marking: the flexure arrangement means that the Fraunhofer galvo can achieve much longer lifetimes than standard ball-bearing arrangments. When you're scanning thousands of times per second, 24 hours a day... that's a good thing.

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    1. Re:Revolutionary. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It is probably not as accurately and arbitrarily positionable as you would like it to be for a laser show. The article mentions a second guide laser and sensors which read the current orientation of the mirror. The display laser is then modulated according to the position, so they're probably causing a regular motion pattern onto which the image the image is mapped instead of telling the mirror to orientate towards a sequence of exact pixel positions.

    2. Re:Revolutionary. by eric434 · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's considerably *more* accurate and positionable than you'd need, since you need much higher accuracy and far higher speed to do raster scanning (like this) as opposed to vector graphics (like most laser shows).

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  26. Second laser by Bio · · Score: 1

    Just to make that clear: the second laser and photo diode is used to verify the position of the mirror.

    Not to verify the projected image. That's what I understood when I read the summary first.

    That would be a good idea: a control system (CCD or something) verifies the projected image, such that even on non-flat or not uniformly bright projection surfaces the image appears correct to the viewers.

    1. Re:Second laser by lub · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right about the second laser.

      Projecting on non-flat and not uniformly bright surfaces is possible with 'smart projectors', which use camera feedback and pixel shaders to adjust the projected image.

    2. Re:Second laser by bigberk · · Score: 1

      Yup, and I hate to give freebie ideas to those hunting through slashdot comments for gold, but some kind of image monitor for feedback would be a huge improvement. This would form a closed loop control system, allowing all kinds of uncalibrated automatic adjustments to the output image. In other words, individual pixel points could be fixed in relation to "us" regardless of where they are physically projecting onto. i.e., flat projected image no matter what irregular projection surface is being used. This would also be useful for related projection technologies such as the portable projection based keyboard (projects key layout onto some surface, monitors key presses).

      Wow, tiny projection based user input/output devices would be a huge leap forward for portable computing. You'd get rid of that awful display screen and keyboard, which are both heavy, prone to breaking, and inadjustible to the environment. Hell, while you're at it, why not use a WLAN connection to move your mass storage devices to a non-mobile point. Put your processor there too, and now your computation device is light as all f*ck. Pretty much no moving parts, not hot processor... just a shitload of RAM, some lasers, and a wireless connection to home base.

      Please, someone build something like that. I'd love to use one.

  27. Cheap and nasty TV. by Ramsey-07 · · Score: 0

    If the basic principle of Mechanical Television and this new technology using lasers and mirrors instead of a circular plane with holes or a 'screw' mirror for Mechanical Television is combined, we may well see compact, bright and large-screen rear-projection or straight lensed projection screens.

    It sounds like they've just borrowed the funamental idea from an invention with basis closer-to the 19th century than the 21st century slapped it with a nice laser and added modern IC's, Brilliant!.

    Id say that a mirror rotates at /extremely/ high speed creating a scanning-line capable of scanning a large area in short enough time for a usable frame-rate and they oscillate the Laser via a light-blocking-transistor.

    A great and reliable idea, cheapest means to get a scanline too!!

    1. Re:Cheap and nasty TV. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ...basic principle of Mechanical Television...
      Actually the idea has been brought back into modern times already (this projection display is not the first that hints at the idea). This kind of stuff is going get pretty crazy as MEMS technology improves. MEMS allows us to have micro mechanical-like units, such as tiny mirrors, within a chip. There are many ways this can all be put together, but an array of mirrors can be used either to route light from an external big source, or could use an on chip laser diode source too.

      So this kind of technology, using either lasers or pretty much any other light source, combined with MEMS mirrors, allows all kinds of new projection options. I think NEC already produces a chip kind of like this, that converts an input video signal into an array of light on/off points. A floodlamp shining through the chip then projects the image. Using a laser to project out, though, is a further improvement for miniaturization.
  28. good luck reading this by jdkane · · Score: 1
    Thank goodness for Google's: text cache.

    However I don't understand German.

    But Babelfish does (kind of):

    A projector in the pocket size is in range: In it a mobile micro mirror develops the picture line for line. In laboratory prototypes researchers could increase its frequency of oscillation and dissolution so far that diagrams and texts appear clearly readable. Not much more largely than a piece wuerfelzucker could be the Beamer of the future. Built into Handys would always participate the mini projector - approximately for a PowerPoint presentation in the small circle or the fast view into an on-line journal. In strange cities it could facilitate orientation, by projecting simply a city plan to the next house wall. Still is this future music. Researchers of the institute for Fraunhofer for silicon technology ISIT in Itzehoe however already built a demonstrator for such a tiny equipment. It projects texts and diagrams with a dissolution of 320 x 240 pixels. Heart is a mobile mirror with a diameter of 1,5 millimeters, which can be manufactured as mass product on a chip. It directs a laser beam by speedy changing of its tilting angle, and develops so the picture pixel for pixels. "the special at the mirror is its suspension", stresses Ulrich Hofmann. "by a special attachment at two torsion bars the mirror can be tilted around two axles. Thus it can divert a laser beam horizontal and vertically." After each deflection the feathers/springs withdraw the mirror so fast into its initial position that it can be tilted several thousands times per second. Suitably the high mobility the researchers accelerated electronics. It decides within the range of nanoseconds, how it must modulate the laser light, so that each pixel in the correct brightness appears. In order to avoid errors in the projection, a second laser serves as control. It radiates likewise on the mobile mirror; the reflected light meets however a photodiode, which locates, as the mirror tilted. "the mirror changes its position for example by vibrations inadvertently, notices control this", explains Hofmann. "electronics can react then flexibly to it and adapt the picture information accordingly." The system is thereby to a large extent insensitively in relation to disturbances from the outside. Still the demonstrator fits into no mobile telephone. "for the test we had not made, say electronics smaller yet to a minimum" Hofmann. That is however one of the next goals of the researchers, who in addition the frequency of the mirror movement and so the dissolution would like to increase. Also in other place it hooks still: As tiny source of light with sufficient life span and leuchtstaerke there are so far only red laser diodes. Within this range the researchers wait now for developments of their colleagues. They however already prepared their system for the multi-color enterprise.

    1. Re:good luck reading this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Not much more largely than a piece wuerfelzucker could be the Beamer of the future

      From what I can understand they're referring to the wrong piece in the pocket!

  29. Already obsoleted by erikharrison · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I mean, maybe it's signifigantly larger, but I want one of these: http://www.io2technology.com/dojo/178/v.jsp

    The difference being partially that the heliodisplay works, now, and is much more Star War-sy

    1. Re:Already obsoleted by Tellalian · · Score: 1

      And with a $18600 pricetag, it'll be decades before anyone ever buys one. It's certainly cool, but at that price it'd better be more than a novel display.

  30. Great idea, removes limits of miniturization by yorkpaddy · · Score: 1

    The two most important constraints on the size of portable devices these days (that I see), are the amount of information they are able to display, and the input method. This removes the display size issue, you can have a large display size in something really small. cool

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    1. Re:Great idea, removes limits of miniturization by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is, if i recall, a device that beams an InfraRed keyboard on the desk and detects your virtual pressing on that "keyboard".

      ok, found a link... http://www.alpern.org/weblog/stories/2003/01/09/pr ojectionKeyboards.html too much red if you ask me..

  31. Cinematic precursor by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anyone remember that Sean Connery movie "Zardoz", where he is poking around someone's house and finds a green emerald ring, which when he activates it begins speaking and projects a computer display on the wall in front of him. I thought that was pretty cool.

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    1. Re:Cinematic precursor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a brilliant film! All the hippies running about at the end saying "Kill me! Kill me!" as Sean dispatches them with his sword. Classic stuff :)

  32. White is RGB in one. by reality-bytes · · Score: 1

    When I said full-spectrum white, I was hoping everyone (who knows lasers) would know the method.

    White lasers either provide a cyclic frequency or are Red Green and Blue combined.

    This is generally the reason for the astronomical prices of 'white' lasers.

    The reason that they're referred to as 'white' is that on full gain/balance they appear white to the human eye (r,g,b at balanced levels)

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  33. A similar project, but better: ? by Sebastian+Jansson · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of the matchbox-sized pojector the finnish company Upstream expects to put on market soon, with a first model commercially avaible in 2005.
    Washington Times have a story on it too.

  34. Yea.....I think... by mboverload · · Score: 0, Funny

    When do we get the 32bit color 1200x1600 version?

  35. 50 years of progress in geekdom... by Alien+Being · · Score: 1

    from pocket protectors to pocket projectors.

  36. starwars by luckyleprecon666666 · · Score: 0

    That is so stolen from starwars can you say copyright infrigement....

  37. Does this just beg the question... by banuk · · Score: 1

    ...what is the 'projected' cost of this? I mean my german is horrible, maybe someone else can just tell me?

  38. Definitely the way to go with monitors and TV by Whumpsnatz · · Score: 1

    I can't think of a better technology for for a monitor - or a TV. I can envision large projection TVs about the size, and weight, of a baseball. I'd love to hear details about the mirror; I expect there's an interesting combination of hardware and software in that gadget.

    I've been chewing on this idea for more than a year, and I keep coming back to the difficulty of the pixel management, the shape of the mirror, the screen, and of course the generation of color. Yet I can clearly visualize opening up my laptop, positioning the projector, and never having to worry about a broken pixel again. So I'm cheering them on with this effort; I hope they apply it broadly. I want a tiny big-screen TV, and a 3 lb laptop with a 22 inch screen.

    1. Re:Definitely the way to go with monitors and TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want sunglasses with built-in lasers and oscillating mirrors that project an image directly onto my retina so that it appears as a giant screen at infinite distance, like a private movie theater. Oh yeah, and the glasses need to be light and stylish.

    2. Re:Definitely the way to go with monitors and TV by Famanoran · · Score: 1

      And not fry your eyeball at the same time...

  39. Spinning disk with a light source... by MSDos-486 · · Score: 1

    in this case a laser. Kinda sounds like a mechanical Television

  40. so? by khrtt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's a monochrome laser projector with a scanning mirror. There is one of these in every laser printer. Except this one scans two dimensions. Then again, its 320x200 instead of 5100 pixel line scanned by a 600dpi letter-size printer. So its not a big deal. Besides, wasn't there, back in 1998 or so, some 3D stereo display for some game console that used a red scanning laser? I think I've seen one in K-mart. I suppose, noone wanted a monochrome display then, and noone will want one now.

    So the interesting thing about this gadget is not the amazing fact that someone made a laser projector, because there really is nothing amazing about it. The interesting thing is whether these guys would ever get 3 lasers (especially the blue one) cheap enough, while powerfull enough to scan a highres picture, as large as an LCD projector does, onto a wall. They'd need 3 powerfull lasers. As light sources go, lasers are about the least efficient, so the gizmo would drain a lot of power, and it will have to be large, with the heatsinks, fans, an all. So, the gadget would really end up being at least as large as an LCD projector, and some 10 times more expensive, mostly because of the blue laser. Why bother?

    1. Re:so? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, your assertion that lasers are the least efficient light sources is out of date. It's true that the old style gas lasers weren't particularly efficient, but modern laser diodes are the most efficient light sources yet invented, as discussed in
      Sam's laser-diode FAQ"

      For example, the 5mw green laser pointer that I bought a few months ago seems incredibly bright, and its two AAA batteries seem to be lasting forever.

    2. Re:so? by Feanturi · · Score: 1

      Why bother?

      Because sometimes bothering to try something hard even though others can't see the value, can lead to cool new things in science. In YOUR estimation, the device they seek to build has to be the size of an LCD projector. This is not their goal, so how can you insist on knowing what the end result will be? It's big right now, they want it to be small, and that's one main thing they must work on. Work, you know, that thing that causes things to happen, as opposed to just thinking. You can't make real world tests in your head, and gain meaningful data, that's why it's in your head only, and not the real world. Yes, the goal they have set for themselves is incredibly lofty, to the point where it is thought unachievable, at least by you. Glad you're not on their team.

  41. Canesta keyboard laser projection by perkr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is this really new technology? The Canesta keyboard already projects an image of a keyboard on any surface. This seems to be the same thing, except the Canesta keyboard exists in reality, and this site has a (well looks like anyway) photoshoped image. It could of course differ in resolution, etc.

    1. Re:Canesta keyboard laser projection by deglr6328 · · Score: 1

      This company's "products" seem to be total vapor. They've been claiming their product is about to be shipped "real soon now" since like 1999. yeah...no one's holding their breath anymore.

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    2. Re:Canesta keyboard laser projection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      already projects an image of a keyboard on any surface. This seems to be the same thing

      Well, one is an image of a keyboard, the other acts as a monitor. Which makes the requirements and technical challenges quite different. Which is why the keyboard idea is alread a couple of years old.

  42. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Combine this keyboard with a similar virtual mouse and a pull-out screen to project on, and your laptop could be the size of a pocket dictionary.

  43. Cool but.... by MSDos-486 · · Score: 1

    Typing would be horrible. Good maybe for objects and CADD stuff

  44. Broken LCD screens no more by asadodetira · · Score: 1

    If they replace the fragile LCD screnns of laptops with tiny solid state projectors, they will be more rugged and maybe cheaper in the long run. One step further in the way to the disposable laptop that you can carry everywhere without worring about it being lost, broken, stolen.
    Hey, maybe you wont even need a Best Buy extended warranty after all. How's that.

  45. Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by martyb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nach jeder Auslenkung ziehen die Federn den Spiegel so schnell in seine Ausgangslage zurück, dass er sich mehrere tausend Mal pro Sekunde verkippen lässt.

    It's been many years since I studied German, but that reads to me: the mirror moves "more than a thousand times per second". Translation: this thing vibrates at approximately 1 KHz. That's probably not only audible, but it probably would cause a noticable vibration in your hand, too.

    I realize the vibration's amplitude is probably minor, but I can hear the buzz from a TV from 30 feet away... and I've known several other people who could do the same, so I'm not unique in that regard. The whir of my PC's fan and disk drives can be terribly annoying.

    So, I think it's a great accomplishment, but I'd hold off buying one until the buzz dies down. ;^)

    1. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by tftp · · Score: 1
      this thing vibrates at approximately 1 KHz. That's probably not only audible, but it probably would cause a noticable vibration in your hand, too.

      Audible or not, your hand won't feel it - the frequency is way too high. Put your hand on an audio speaker and change the frequency; on 20 Hz you can feel the vibration, at 100 Hz you can't. But an ear, of course, has smaller and lighter parts and can hear up to 15-20 kHz.

      High speed cameras also have to use mirrors because the film never stops, so the frame has to follow the moving film. But mirrors there don't vibrate, they rotate. Each mirror is a hexagonal cylinder (a prism), and each side reflects light. Very simple, and allows for very high "vibration" speed.

    2. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by bigberk · · Score: 1
      the mirror moves "more than a thousand times per second". Translation: this thing vibrates at approximately 1 KHz. That's probably not only audible, but it probably would cause a noticable vibration in your hand, too.
      I doubt it. The mirrors probably have so little mass that there is no detectable physical vibration. Also, I presume that there is MEMS technology involved here, and those things are so small that the mechanical operations are not perceptable on the macro scale.

      I could be wrong about this device (I don't know what's inside), but just because physical things are oscillating does not mean they shake around and buzz. Macro scale buzzing requires some serious inertia... atoms and molecules don't buzz :)
    3. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by rxmd · · Score: 1
      Nach jeder Auslenkung ziehen die Federn den Spiegel so schnell in seine Ausgangslage zurück, dass er sich mehrere tausend Mal pro Sekunde verkippen lässt.
      It's been many years since I studied German, but that reads to me: the mirror moves "more than a thousand times per second".
      It means "several thousand times per second" (I'm German). This is necessary if you want decent refresh rates. The mirror has to be tilted once for every scanline; if you want 70 fps at 240 lines of vertical resolution, that means it will have to be tilted about 16,800 times per second. In theory, this would lead to an buzz at the upper end of the audible spectrum. TV sets usually emit noise at about 15 kHz, which is terribly annoying.

      Given how small the amplitude actually is (and it has to be for this kind of motion!), however, I doubt you would hear a lot as long as the mechanical parts are properly designed and it's in any kind of casing.

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    4. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by martyb · · Score: 1
      It's been many years since I studied German, but that reads to me: the mirror moves "more than a thousand times per second".

      It means "several thousand times per second" (I'm German).

      Okay, thanks! I stand corrected.

      This is necessary if you want decent refresh rates. The mirror has to be tilted once for every scanline; if you want 70 fps at 240 lines of vertical resolution, that means it will have to be tilted about 16,800 times per second. In theory, this would lead to an buzz at the upper end of the audible spectrum. TV sets usually emit noise at about 15 kHz, which is terribly annoying.

      And 60 fps at 240 lines would be 14,400 Hz. So, we're agreed the frequency would be in the audible range.

      Given how small the amplitude actually is (and it has to be for this kind of motion!), however, I doubt you would hear a lot as long as the mechanical parts are properly designed and it's in any kind of casing.

      I didn't think it all the way through; thanks for pointing it out. It's just that I'd spent WAY too many years listening to the horrible buzz of IBM 3270 Terminals (they were the WORST!) There were no moving parts in those (that I am aware of), and yet the noise was painfully audible. So, I feared this new display might also be subject to the same problem.

    5. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by martyb · · Score: 1
      I could be wrong about this device (I don't know what's inside), but just because physical things are oscillating does not mean they shake around and buzz. Macro scale buzzing requires some serious inertia... atoms and molecules don't buzz :)

      Okay, that makes sense... but why do TVs and CRTs (IBM 3270 Terminals, especially) have a most annoying buzz? To the best of my knowledge, there's no moving parts, and yet I could hear them from over 30 feet away!

    6. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by Brianwa · · Score: 2, Informative

      The very high-frequency sound is form the vibrating coils of the flyback transformer used in CRTs. My TV also emits a 60Hz buzz, I have no idea what causes it.

    7. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by bigberk · · Score: 1
      but why do TVs and CRTs (IBM 3270 Terminals, especially) have a most annoying buzz
      If you're hearing the same thing I am (and not everyone is capable of hearing this by the way!) this is the very high pitched tone you can hear from most CRTs. It's just at the limit of human hearing. The cause is the electronic circuitry (flyback transformer and capacitors) building the high voltages for the CRT. I'm not 100% sure what makes the noise, but I have heard that it's the transformer vibrating. There's all kinds of rapidly changing electric fields, and likely a pretty massive part (chunk of metal) is vibrating around.
    8. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      Oh, good. I thought I was the only one in the world who knows that there's a TV on somewhere in the house, even if it's muted.

    9. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by P-Nuts · · Score: 1

      I believe that transformers tend to hum at harmonics of the AC frequency (60 Hz in America, 50 Hz in Europe) because the magnetic domains in the core of the transformer change in size slightly with the fields. Read this for an explanation.

    10. Re:Picture? Yes! Noise? Oh-no! by Brianwa · · Score: 1

      That is what I meant when I mentioned the vibrating coils of the flyback transformer. The flyback does not run at 50/60 Hz, but uses its own oscillator circut that varies frequency with the amount of load put on it. When the TV is on, its normal frequency is in the upper audible range. As you said, the lower frequency is probably from a mains transformer.

  46. Size matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're comparing apples and steaks, one is a pocket-size device that projects a flat image on a surface, the other is a desktop-size device that projects a hologram. The subject of this article is useful when you don't want to read things on the tiny screen of your cellphone/palmtop/etc. You don't want to carry around a heliodisplay all day long.

    BTW, are those folks at IO2 the ultimate rednecks or what? They show off their prototype along with an american flag, a can of diet Coke, Altoids, and a pack of Marlboros... I half expected them to be projecting a picture of a nascar racer.

  47. Why hasn't this taken off? by MacFury · · Score: 1

    I remember looking at their website nearly a year ago. Why don't I see this tech at tradeshows and such? Hell, why don't I see it at my local science center...it looks so damn cool.

  48. Good thing I have two grannies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can get myself a white laser *and* still have home made apple pie this Thanksgiving!

  49. Oh Gawd by Lifewish · · Score: 1

    Can't wait til my old Deputy Head gets one of these. This is the teacher colloquially known as "Powerpoint Steve"... The Earth is doomed :(

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  50. Static image by ahecht · · Score: 1

    Except the Canesta projects a static image using the same type of holographic filters that come with the $2 laser pointer you can buy from your local ice cream truck. It is essentially a laser slide-show. Projecting a dynamic image is much, much harder.

  51. Let's make it happen by shis-ka-bob · · Score: 1

    I'm with you! Is there room in R2D2 firewall for the projector?

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  52. I found the patent application by rufusdufus · · Score: 1

    Well, doesnt seem like this obsoletes the portable projector, as this is not portable. However, it does seem pretty cool, and found the patent applications for it #20040001182 you can look it up on uspto.gov

  53. They're a fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We talked to them several times about buying a demo unit for a product we're making, and they never would give us a price for any of the components. They apparently don't exist.

    1. Re:They're a fraud by perkr · · Score: 1

      Ok, that's not fair though. I happen to have seen it demoed live and tried by a friend of mine. Of course it does not work as good as they claim it to do (you can basically only do hunt and peck typing, not touch-typing), but still, it does exist.

  54. Projecting black on a white screen in daylight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, right.

    Check out the picture in TFA, the dark parts of the photo are darker than the screen itself. How do they do that?

  55. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Talk about "Pocket Rocket"

  56. funny -2 by geoswan · · Score: 1
    I have funny marked as -2 in my slashdot preferences, because most of what slashdotters think is funny is just a waste of time.

    His reference to "frigging laser beams" was intended to be a humourous reference to a rant the villian utters in the film Austin Powers: International man of mystery.

    1. Re:funny -2 by THESuperShawn · · Score: 1

      That part was funny. Austin Powers is fun- and not just because of the midgets (midgets are silly). If you RTWFP you would a quote with the word stupid in it. Hence my comment, stupid is as stupid posts. You see, "stupis is as..." is a Forrest Gump quote. It was a movie out a little while ago. I was kinda funny as well. Stick with us kid, you'll figure it out.

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  57. Academic paper to the rescue! Go CAVE... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  58. Black light? by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    It's not a laser, it's a Dark Sucker, although a very well collimated and controlled one.

    Mal-2

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  59. Video Games by cmpalmer · · Score: 1

    While porn is usually brought up as what drives the acceptance of new technology, games have to be a close second.

    Aside from the issues of selling even low power lasers to kids (i.e., cheap laser pointers warning that they are not toys and shouldn't be sold to kids), wouldn't it be easy to use a cheap red laser diode to make a "game console" that would let you play Asteroids, Battle Zone, or Missle Command type games on your wall (or on the side of your house 20' high)?

    Or, as others have joked about, just a simple scrolling message display like those spin around your head segmented LED displays so you can "tag" messages in public places?

    You might have a hard time getting them carried at your local Radio Shack or Best Buy, but what do you bet that you can order them from international online stores soon?

    Did I just blow my chances at a multi-million dollar patent again? :-)

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