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A Brief History of the iPod

antdude writes "MacSlash mentioned MLAgazine's article on a brief history of the iPod. It all started on October 23, 2001 with the release of one of the most important products from Apple in its history."

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  1. I remember the launch... by nordicfrost · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I also talked with a Mac-enthusiatic buddy of mine, and he hated it. I don't know why, but he thought it would bring down Apple another notch on the finance scale. Guess he was wrong. Along with some that said "no wireless. Lame."

    I find it the most indispensable tool in my life. Backup, file transport, music and calendar. With a huge harddrive.

    1. Re:I remember the launch... by Mr_Silver · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I also talked with a Mac-enthusiatic buddy of mine, and he hated it. I don't know why, but he thought it would bring down Apple another notch on the finance scale. Guess he was wrong. Along with some that said "no wireless. Lame."

      That would be Taco then.

      Look how well Creative are doing too. From being the first with a HD based MP3 device to playing catch up. Oh and trying to make their products look as similar as possible to Apple's.

      Probably not quite the direction they were hoping for.

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    2. Re:I remember the launch... by Mant · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's funny to read that old thread, all the people prediciting how it wouldn't succeed.

      Good thing nobody takes business advice from Slashdot.

    3. Re:I remember the launch... by Yer+Mom · · Score: 2, Informative
      That'll be the Rio Karma, then - plays Ogg Vorbis and FLAC gaplessly. MP3s, too, although for best results you'll need to use LAME to encode them.

      (It also plays WMA, but I don't know if it does it gaplessly as I don't have any WMAs...)

      Winamp plays all these formats just fine, of course.

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  2. Don't forget the wonderful review at /. by kentheman · · Score: 5, Funny
    From here:
    No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
    Well, Apple did it. Again.
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  4. Apple's core... by mac666er · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since its inception, Apple has always been willing to gamble more with new products than most other companies

    Granted, they flopped with the Newton... but they came out with the mac, the powerbook, peer2peer file sharing out of the box, the trackpad, the powerbook duo, speech recognition integrated on the OS on the 90's, quicktime, and the list goes on... (I would like to give them the mouse and the interface, but as with everything they also have a dark side)

    It is good to see they are ripping the benefits of believing in something completely new... ( As they believed in a portable media player by some bogus guy who was rejected by other companies)

    Kudos to Apple

    1. Re:Apple's core... by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ibm os/2 (w3 or w4? can't recall) had this as an OS built-in while mac was still at system 7.2, which had no speech recog

      I don't know that that's correct. The first Mac I remember using speech on was the Quadra 660 AV which debuted in 1993 with System 7.1. How does that compare to OS/2?

      there were laptops before the powerbook was launched - what about the powerbook did you think was innovative?

      The PowerBook was the first portable computer you could actually use on your lap. Look at the position of the keyboard on a PowerBook and compare it to the position of the keyboard on any other existing laptop. Apple was the first company to do that: to move the keyboard back so you could have a place to rest your palms. Now all laptops are designed that way. That's a pretty good working definition of "innovative," huh? Being the first one to come up with something that is now universal?

      other media wrappers existed prior to quicktime

      Like which ones, exactly? (And no, your characterization of QuickTime as a "wrapper" is not correct. It's an extensible media file format plus a vast API.)

      "the mac" - it had innovative features for a pc, but it was still, essentially, just another sequential release for a pc company.

      I don't even understand that. The Mac was the first widely available computer with a mouse-driven graphical user interface. The Mac changed everything.

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    2. Re:Apple's core... by chez69 · · Score: 2, Informative

      OS/2 just needed a sound card to do voice commands where the AV macs had a bunch of special DSP hardware

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    3. Re:Apple's core... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Because it costs to be the innovator?

      Apple spends far more on their backend research than the others...there might have been other HD MP3 players before the iPod, and I tried several of them before buying an iPod (the closest thing I found that I was happy with was a walkman cd style player that played just like a cd player and was the same form factor as the one I had before that which only played cds...it was still klunky).

      No, they spend far more getting this stuff perfect...other players are designed by geeks that think a feature list is what sells, when folks are buying a product because it does simply what they claim it does and does it well. I've used a few others since getting my first generation iPod...as a musician, I get a lot of these for free. Its amazing what simply asking for one of these gets you. I'm still on my first gen iPod and it is still better than the others.

      If you are one of those ones that wants more space and doesn't care about it being intuitive -- go for it. Its the same reason a lot of geeks use Linux. Its not intuitive in the slightest. I've used unix for 15 years now...probably much longer than the majority of the linux enthusiasts around here have used computers. I can understand that some folks want features over intuitiveness but most don't...This is why Windows 'outsells' Linux each and every year. Its also why the snobs of the computer world go with Mac...because its even more intuitive. Personally, I don't give a fuck about the styling of the iPod, but it does help that women like it. I use it because its the simplest interface out there and with one hand I can get to the music I want, while on my bike (motor or mountain...yeah, I know its illegal on the first), or while driving. I wish my cell phone was as intuitive and there is no reason its not.

      So why is it more expensive? Because some people are willing to pay for ease of use and having a device that thinks the way we do...

    4. Re:Apple's core... by fermion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Apple's big thing is the packaging of the hardware and software. It tends to be straightforward with much less game playing than is typical. This allows some really cool things to happen really easily. the innovation is in the access as much as the technology.

      On the matter of speech, not speech recognition, we have talking moose. if you haven't hear of it, look it up. This, and the trivial way that system level icons could be replaced, kind of a proto-skinning, made that mac a much more personal experience that any prior computer. And the desk accessories, instead of the TSR, made it much more usable.

      We see this all the way back to the Apple ][. When I first starting programming the Apple at school, this is after we learned to program on the DEC PDP, it took me like an hour to learn shape table and do some rather cool things. The elegance, at least to the teen aged mind, was astounding.

      What apple was not good at was integration. This is the big problem they have fixed with the iPod and iLife in general. The fact that we can now synch to bluetooth phones is a feature they would not have made a front issue 10 years ago. This is why the newton failed. I had to go to a Palm to do my work. If the sync for the Newton worked as well as iSync, I might still be using it today. Last I check, it worked perfectly.

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    5. Re:Apple's core... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      And yes, OS/2 w3 (or 4? still can't recall) predates the release of sys 7.3 - I recall, because I installed OS/2 and played w/ the speech recog while waiting for 7.3 to be released.

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      Spoon boy: There is no System 7.3.

      Neo: There is no System 7.3?

      Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the fact that bends, it is only your memory.

      System 7 goes from 7.1.2 to 7.5, skipping 7.2, 7.3, 7.4 version numbers.

      AVI. Was making avi files on macs before quicktime had even been thought of.

      The early AVI was not a container. It's a file format used by Intel Indeo codec to store data. QuickTime was always a container and always has APIs associated with it. You can even use Indeo (on 68K Macs) codecs as a plugin to compress a video and output that as a QuickTime file. It became a container only in the last few years. Now you can use codecs such as 3IVX or DIVX along with MP3 to compress a movie to AVI. Unfortunately, Microsoft is putting their weight behind WMV as a container along with the DRM.

    6. Re:Apple's core... by Demolition · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just FYI...

      Apple's first foray into speech input was a technology demo in 1990 on the Mac IIsi, running System 6.0.7. It was extremely rudimentary. Things improved slightly in 1991 (in System 7.0), but the implemementation was still crude and a bit of work was needed to make it function properly (-- well, I never got it to function properly, anyway :-P ). In 1993, PlainTalk, a much improved technology, debuted as a standard component in System 7.1.0 on Quadra 660AVs and 840AVs. Thereafter, command-oriented speech-recognition was a standard part of the Mac OS.

      D.

    7. Re:Apple's core... by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Certainly Apple didn't just rip it off the Xerox guys

      Actually they didn't get ripped off, at all. Xerox got paid. Repeating that urban legend makes the rest of your post about Raskin and Jobs suspect.

  5. Guarantee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Guaranteed: At least a dozen times prior to Apple releasing the iPod, large technology company middle managers refused to approve designs for competing devices, claiming with absolute certainty that no market existed for portable digital music players.

    As those ass-molded-to-chair managers know, it's always easier to be a skeptic. The numbers of jobs and revenue lost to those WRONG decisions must be staggering.

  6. A bit unnecessary, no? by Nosf3ratu · · Score: 4, Funny
    Do we really need a "history of ..." story for something that's been around for just a couple years?

    Here's a brief history of the iPod:

    First, Apple designed the iPod. One day an engineer came in succinctly blitzed and designed the horrible "I-ain't-seen-this-shit-since-Intellivision" circle navigation wheel thingy. The hippie fruits at Apple all applauded.

    Then they bought usage rights to some second-rate cheap ass songs that never got played on the radio anyway, and used them to promote the thing. Said no-name bands became more famous because of the constant never-ending barrage of commercials. "Honey, if I do say so myself, this Black Eyed Peas song is rather good! I absolutely hated it the first 48,000 times I heard it but now it's starting to grow on me!"

    Then Apple deployed their proven strategy of making the device look better than it actually performs, thereby luring thoughtless dimwits and college freshmen with enormous piles of high interest credit cards that they somehow "needed" one for Christmas.

    Then when people realized that the music they were downloading for free was somehow supporting terrorism, and they were probably going to be castrated in town square, they needed another method to fill up the bottomless hole that is the iPod (seriously, who the hell needs to have that many gigs of mp3s with them at all times?). But wait, Apple was here with a solution! You can download the songs for a low low price, and it's legal! Oh...and the artists still get fucked! Yay! The RIAA can rest easy. iTunes is here.

    And a legend was born.

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    1. Re:A bit unnecessary, no? by dJOEK · · Score: 5, Funny

      So you're too poor to buy one?

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    2. Re:A bit unnecessary, no? by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 2, Insightful
      that never got played on the radio anyway

      Yeah, but that's a good thing these days.

      And the control wheel is frickin genius. It's perfect for the one dimensional navigation of the iPod. The Intellivision was a cheap mushy disc totally unsuited to the two dimensional control of a game system.

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  7. How do you rate important? by joeykiller · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know this is off topic, but I see they call the iPod one of the most important products in Apple history. How does one value their individual products, and how would a list of importantness lokk like? Like this?

    1. Apple I for starting the whole thing?
    2. Apple II for making Apple a business?
    3. Macintosh for paving the way to the future?
    4. iMac for saving the company?
    5. iPod for attracting buyers outside of the crowd of believers?

    Can Steve Jobs be called a "product" these days, and thus earn a place on the top 5?

  8. it's in the new MoMA... by mojoNYC · · Score: 4, Interesting
    my wife and I (both iPod and Mac owners) attended the opening of the new Museum of Modern Art here in NYC, and were happy to see that the original iPod (along with a G4 iBook) made it into the museum's design collection, next to other icons of product design.

    didn't see any Rios or Dell laptops, though--go figure;>

  9. Design by Mr_Silver · · Score: 4, Informative
    One of the key points which I believe made the iPod sell well is that it appeals to women. Several in the office have seen the alternative "iPod killers" and every single one of them have commented about how ugly it is. One key quote was "if you asked for an ipod and you got that, you'd be disappointed".

    I find it interesting that every "iPod killer" attempts to add more features and make it cheaper. Unfortunately this has the side effect of it having a horrible design or uses cheap materials which makes it feel horrible to handle.

    Personally I believe that if something looks and feels good, then people will buy it. As soon as a company accepts that there are people who are perfectly happy to pay more for something that looks and feels good, then they might spend a little more on the hardware and less on trying to get it's sales price as low as possible.

    I fear that at the moment the only real competitor to Apple was Sony, but then they dropped the ball with a limited hard drive (no 40 gig option?) and the stupid requirement to convert to ATRAC. Creative have never produced a product that remotely looks like it's worth the money that was paid for it and iRiver (whilst being technically very good) needs to seriously review some of their design choices (ruggidised black and a stubbly joypad doesn't appeal to many and definately not to women).

    Of course, everyones opinion is different. I know people who think the Creative one is beautiful and the Apple one horrible. But the market has clearly shown that they are in the minority.

    More style, more class, less about the price point and someone could actually make it vaiguley close to having an "iPod killer" on their hands.

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    1. Re:Design by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Informative

      FWIW, Sony actually did relent on the ATRAC conversion for its hard drive and flash players. I'm not sure if that hard drive player was fixed. The 20GB is smaller than Apple's 20GB but costs $50 more and still has a dubious interface.

      Sony's CD and DVD players had been using MP3 for a while.

      I'm considering a 20GB iPod right now, and won't consider Sony for this task. The 40GB iPod isn't necessary and IMO too thick anyway. I currently only have a 10GB music collection + 1GB software files. It's taken me ten years to get my collection where it is, I don't see it doubling anytime soon.

    2. Re:Design by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Look, I understand that opinions are neither right nor wrong and that everybody's entitled to one ...but come on, man. Have you ever actually seen an iPod? An iPod is simple and elegant. A Rio Carbon looks like a prop from a bad 1970s-era science fiction TV show.

      Opinions are neither right nor wrong ...but sometimes you just have to take a step back and re-evaluate. You know?

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    3. Re:Design by stevey · · Score: 2, Funny
      (ruggidised black and a stubbly joypad doesn't appeal to many and definately not to women).

      I can think of many women who'd like a rugged black joystick ..

      Perhaps you just move in different circles.

    4. Re:Design by DaveCBio · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've seen and used an iPod and while I think it's pretty cool it's still overrated and overpriced like most Apple products. Apple is 50% tech and 50% hype.

  10. Uh, no. by GeorgeH · · Score: 5, Informative

    "It all started on October 23, 2001 with the release of one of the most important products from Apple in its history."

    Uh, no. It started when Tony Fadell had the idea of creating a digital music player and tying it to an online music store a few years before the iPod came out. Inside Look at Birth of the iPod on Wired News covers the stuff that happened before the iPod came out.

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  11. Re:Intriguing idea by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 3, Funny
    I can get a much better x86-based computer for the same price.

    A x86 computer that runs OS X natively? Sign me up.

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  12. Re:I always loved slashdots first opinions by amokk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Slashdot has never been revolutionary. It's never really on the cutting edge of anything. Most of the editor's comments end up being incendiary or show that they are profoundly out of touch with reality.

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  13. Re:Intriguing idea by zerman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe they don't lose money, but the iPod is certainly a bigger cashcow, so why not pour R&D into that instead?

  14. Re:I think I can hear... by Doc+Squidly · · Score: 3, Insightful

    interesting how many ipod-clones are coming out

    Sorry, it not imitation but, form being dictated by function. All hard drive based portable music players use similar hard drives.

    When other companies paint theirs white and put U2 in their commercials, then its imitation.

    Yes, I know. I'm splitting hairs.

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  15. Re:Intriguing idea by finkployd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you were just talking desktops, I kinda agree. Laptops on the other hand, I feel there are simply no x86 based laptops that can compete with the powerbook line on price, performance, features, etc. I have noticed the powerbooks line (and to a much lesser extent, the ibook line) making a massive comeback in higher education.
    Whereas I would used to go to various conferences and see over 90% thinkpads and some dells, now is seems well over half the people attending have powerbooks, and that number just keeps growing.

    Granted higher ed is a small subset of the population, but I have been noticing more apple laptops in other groups as well.

    Finkployd

  16. Re:No wonder it's their most important profit by ThousandStars · · Score: 3, Funny
    but the price is barking mad)

    Precisely how mad is "barking mad?" Is that the point at which you express your displeasure by standing in front of stores that sell Ipods and unleashing your canine fury?

  17. Re:No wonder it's their most important profit by Chucker23N · · Score: 3, Insightful

    iPod and iPod photo: 1.8 inch hard disks
    iPod mini: 1.0 inch hard disks
    Notebooks: 2.5 inch hard disks

    Thought you were right on? Think again.

  18. Re:Intriguing idea by finkployd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And no easy way to have an encrypted home directory, or make encrypted disk images (oh I know how to do it with a loopback file system, but most people don't)

    And much less application support (don't show me 500 aim clones that Linux has, OS X can run those through X11 and fink anways, show me the Office or Photoshop or Quicken apps)

    And a nighmare getting periferals configured and working

    Oh and generally really crappy battery life, with (as much as I like Linux) the worlds worst power management features and tools.

    Look, I love using Linux and it is the only OS on my desktops (except for one headless windows box for the sporatic DLL or ISAPI I have to write). However, after owning a few top of the line Dell notebooks and Thinkpads, I will never go back to x86 based laptops now that I have a powerbook. Having everything from power management, wireless, long battery life, and application compatibility just working is such a nice way to live :)

    Finkployd

  19. Re:I think I can hear... by pslam · · Score: 5, Informative
    Also, I find it interesting how many ipod-clones are coming out. I guess it's true what Steve J. once said about "imitation being the greatest form of flattery"

    Apple was not the first to make a hard disk portable player. They were the first to ship one with a 1.8" hard disk, which hardly makes everything else a clone - they just got there second. Nobody was really taken by surprise, and the major MP3 companies were already well into designing their own.

    Apple was also not the first to make a mini hard disk portable. They were the first to ship a 4GB 1" hard disk player, and then only just. They were beaten by many companies to ship a 1" 1.5GB HD player (including where I work) - but they had a supply of 4GB drives before everyone else. In fact, Rio even managed to announce and demonstrate their own 4GB player hours before Job's keynote speech. Spot how he deliberately missed the comparison of the Mini iPod to the Rio Nitrus (a 1" HD player), and instead picked a Rio 256MB flash player as a convenient strawman.

    It's slightly irritating that Apple's reality distortion field now makes it possible for everyone to claim that all other players are "clones".

  20. Re:Intriguing idea by kaleco · · Score: 2, Informative
    The Apple Developer Connection student developer discount has made a big difference in making Apple hardware an option for students.

    I got my 20% off my 12" Powerbook, which meant I could throw in an iPod too. Apple know how to look after their customers. I don't think I'll be turning back to x86 laptops for a long time.

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  21. Re:I always loved slashdots first opinions by Tim+C · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Agreed. For a tech-oriented site, slashdot is very quick to decry most techonological advances.

  22. It'll never catch on by payndz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, wait...

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  23. Re:I think I can hear... by Sabah+Arif · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm the webmaster there. Does anyone have a mirror site that we can host the images off? My server is my home machine, a PII 266.

  24. Year ? by leonbloy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I really hate to having to guess (from the url) the year of an old post. Please, show the year in the post date. It's just 4 chars, man! Am I missing something ?

    1. Re:Year ? by fafaforza · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What will you tell the people who stumble accross a story through Google and do not have an account? Register to view year of this story's publishing?

  25. Small Objects of Desire by iBod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's been a long, long time since I've been enticed by any piece of consumer electronics.
    I'm not a gadget freak anymore, really.

    But dammit! Apple have created an object of sheer desirability in the iPod - and especially in the iPod mini.

    Despite my (iBod) nickname, It's been many years since I've owned an Apple product (the last was the ill-fated Newton).

    I think Apple really understand which buttons to press to get hip, design-aware customers longing for their products (not that I include myself in that demograph). When they've got the trendsetters, the rest will follow.

    Credit and kudos where it's due. Apple have a killer product that is even making iPod buyers switch from PCs to Macs, allegedly.

    IMHO there will be no 'iPod killer' because nobody understands the intended market for these devices better than Apple.

    No self-respecting kid will thank you for getting him/her a 'no-name' MP3 player this Christmas instead of an iPod.

    1. Re:Small Objects of Desire by numark · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, and how many kids need features that aren't in the iPod? Contrary to popular belief on /., most people in the country don't really care about encoding to Ogg or FLAC, or having some niche feature that very few people ever use. The iPod works for most people (including myself) that have their MP3s and AACs and just want to listen to their music that they already have on iTunes. What other features could the average kid possibly need?

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  26. MacSlash by JaJ_D · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...sounds like a scottish pyschopath!

    :-]

    Jaj

  27. Not even their idea by gilesjuk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not like they were even thinking about making an mp3 player until someone pitched the idea to them.

    Apple have no vision beyond making already established ideas better. They're no better than Microsoft in terms of innovation. Microsoft tends to let other people release products, analyse why they suceed/fail and then improve them in some way.

    Apple do the same, but tend to focus on simplicity and the visual design. They like the "cool" factor that makes their products appeal to designers and the in-crowd.

    In fact, OSX follows this concept. They've taken already written software (kernel, X windows etc), improved it and grafted a slick interface on the front.

    1. Re:Not even their idea by Col+Bat+Guano · · Score: 2, Insightful
      A lot of the micro kernel was written by Avie Te..(something :-) when he was at University. More work was done in Next which was headed up by Steve Jobs. Next was bought by Apple, so you can say that large sections of the OS were written by them.

      If you look at the driver model you'll see it's definately Apple specific (so i presume they created it).

      The Cocoa framework was created by Next, and adopted/extended by Apple, so is that their innovation?

      The display system using PDF is definately an Apple unique feature, but clearly is based on concepts used by Next (display postscript). I'm not sure what the timeline is on this compared to Sony's NEWS display system (which I think also used postscript).

      Apple have done some truly innovative stuff. Opendoc was brilliant. A desktop bus for slow speed peripherals (ADB) was what USB is now but a long time ago. No fuss networking, hypercard, firewire etc. Not to mention the work they did on making GUIs truly usable.

  28. Re:Intriguing idea by kenthorvath · · Score: 3, Informative
    Having everything from power management, wireless, long battery life, and application compatibility just working is such a nice way to live :)

    And don't forget that Apple's machines are almost dead silent. The fans on my inspiron could have matched wits with a 747. I was sitting in class the other day with my iBook and the room was so silent I was afraid that the clicking of a hard drive or the hum of a fan might disturb someone, but there was not a sound from my beloved (geek metaphor). The hardware is just better.

  29. One of the most important? by solistus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Err.... I own an iPod, I think it's great, and I realise that it's made Apple a lot of money, but is sticking a nice GUI and interface on a mini HDD and packaging it nicely really anywhere close to as "important" as, say, the first personal computer? No? What about the first GUI for a consumer OS? No again? Or, if we're going to talk in terms of cash cows, how about the iMac, which actually saved Apple? If the company was on its last financial legs before the iPod's debut, I could see calling it one of their most important releases, but making a profitable company more profitable by taking exiting ideas and technology and simply doing them better than anyone else, while significant, can't be compared to innovations that changed the world forever à la MacOS or Apple I.

    In conclusion, profitable =/= important

    1. Re:One of the most important? by the+pickle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Important to Apple, or important to the world?

      I submit that the iPod will be the latter, and without having RTFA, suspect this is the direction the authors were going.

      Why, you ask?

      The iPod could be the device that eventually breaks Microsoft's stranglehold on the computer industry. The important point here isn't that the iPod has been fantastically profitable to Apple. It has, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that the iPod has done more for Apple's "mind-share" than anything since the famous "1984" advertisement. The results of the recent study indicating that some 13% of iPod customers are already (or are planning to become) Macintosh owners are nothing less than spectacular. If Apple can play this advantage into greater Macintosh market share -- even as little as 10-15 percent, compared to less than five percent right now -- several things will happen:

      1) You can get away with excluding two or three percent of your user base. You cannot get away with excluding ten percent of it. This will force companies to design Web sites that work on ALL computers, not just the latest Windows box.

      2) Two to three percent of people can be dismissed as the lunatic fringe. It's a lot harder to dismiss ten percent as the lunatic fringe. Thus, the Macintosh becomes more of a mainstream platform, and PHBs start realising that there's an alternative to Windows for the corporate world.

      3) In conjunction with #1, software developers now have a much larger potential market, encouraging them to bring quality products to the Macintosh where none previously existed. The lack of specialty software is the ONLY thing keeping a large number of my friends from switching to a Macintosh.

      Should this come to pass, it's unlikely that history will remember the iPod as the catalyst, mostly because the Macintosh and Apple I were directly significant to the computer industry, whereas the iPod itself isn't a particularly revolutionary device. Of course, history hasn't remembered a lot of things as they should have been.

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  30. You know what, for once, I've RTFA by RasputinAXP · · Score: 2, Informative

    and the TFA is a POS.

  31. Re:There are others you know... by julie-h · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can easy follow your idea, and I think you got my point too=)

    People with iPod's indicate, that they are 100% for design, and not features or eletronics and sound quality. The PCM2705 from TI that is in the iPod is a NOT a high end DAC! In fact, a low cost DAC =(

  32. How cool is it? by Dr.+Sigmund+Freud · · Score: 2, Funny
    They like the "cool" factor that makes their products appeal to designers and the in-crowd.
    The iPod is so cool that they are now using it to sell sex.

    Caution: Linky NSFW.

  33. Favorite Comment from the Previous Article by Seoulstriker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Raise your hand if you have iTunes ...

    Raise your hand if you have a FireWire port ...

    Raise your hand if you have both ...

    Raise your hand if you have $400 to spend on a cute Apple device ...

    There is Apple's market. Pretty slim, eh? I don't see many sales in the future of iPod.

    ~LoudMusic


    October 23rd, 2001. Priceless. :-D

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  34. And here are the precursors by Bj�rn+Stenberg · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Since so many people are confused/misled about who invented what regarding harddisk mp3 players, I created this simple history page:

    http://www.rockbox.org/playerhistory/

    It may surprise some people to see that the iPod was announced a full two years after the first harddisk-based mp3 player.

  35. Re:I always loved slashdots first opinions by the+pickle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's because the Slashdot crowd seems to be fairly pragmatic.

    Most technological advances that make the news here are in-development technologies that may or may not bear fruit in five to ten years. And if anything, the experience of the last 50 years should have taught us that no matter how many times flying cars and nuclear fusion are predicted to be 10 years off, they seem to be perpetually 10 years off.

    I think the /. crowd mostly thinks in terms of "what can you do for me NOW," and as a result, you get a lot of people saying "Gee, [innovation] won't lead to anything useful with the next year or two, so it's not important to me." The sad part is, they're right most of the time. Don't believe me? Go grab an issue of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics from the mid-1980s.

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  36. Re:Not To Anger the Mod Gods, But... by PipsqueakOnAP133 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're actually kinda right.

    Despite being a mac user, I'm sorta annoying to be flooded by the numerous fans who post so much it decreases the signal/noise ratio in the forums.

    But then again, it's no different when there's a GPL/OpenSource/Linux related article. All of the fans of open source come out in one giant clusterfuck to either applaud a decision, mention "of course it'd be better open source" without actually thinking about the implications, and all the "down with BSD/MIT/etc, all hail RMS and the GPL" type posts.

    Really, there's no way to solve this cuz there's too many cheerleaders of insert-favorite-tech-here.

  37. nonsense by Scudsucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

    regard to the IPod being not an inovation. MP3 players have been around for ages.

    Invention is not required for innovation. Yes there were small players before the iPod, and larger capacity players before the iPod, but there weren't any other players that had a large capacity in a compact form factor. There was nothing else like the iPod at the time of its introduction. Nothing. That, and the industry has followed Apple in making small size-high capacity players, most with hard drives. How is that *not* the definition of innovation?

    Apple just have great marketing. That's all there is to it.

    Snob. The iPod is a phenomenon because Apple made a product with the best combination of features and it took a very long time before anyone could touch them. And its *still* arguably a superior product because of its interface and software integration. Apple's compeditors seem to think they'll have an "iPod killer" on their hands if they take a billeted list its features and one up them. But just because your player has a couple more hours of batter life and costs $40 less doesn't automatically mean you have a better product on your hands. The iPod succeeded because it had a great mix of features, and to beat it your player will have to do the same.

  38. History of Hard Disk Players by meehawl · · Score: 2, Informative

    Anyone have any links to articles that might have a more broad history of the MP3 player in general?

    Try this:

    http://www.rockbox.org/playerhistory/

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