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In Korea, Email Is Only For Old People

_martini_ writes "This short article suggests that, in Korea, email is used only for formal communications, or by older, less tech-saavy generations, while IMs, blogs, and SMS has taken over as the primary means of day to day messages."

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  1. Greasy Kids Stuff by insensitive+claude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can understand how IM appeals to kids (regardless of nationality), but I find IM incredibly distracting. I guess it's the natural evolution though. As telephones cut into the postal load, so are chat functions overtaking email.

    1. Re:Greasy Kids Stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah baby, I'm naked now. The chocolate suace is dripping down my...

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    2. Re:Greasy Kids Stuff by segmond · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hate IM for this reason, I usually tell people I don't have any IM account till I make sure they are not part of the "i am often bored" group. Else, I tend to give them only email. It's amazing how people who can't find the strength to write a 2 line email can write 5000 lines over IM.

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  2. replacement for soviet joke? by Heem · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Korea, (current subject) is only used by old people!

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    1. Re:replacement for soviet joke? by themaidtricks · · Score: 4, Funny

      It might happen, but the phrasing needs work.

      In Korea, (current subject) is for the elderly!

    2. Re:replacement for soviet joke? by blue_adept · · Score: 5, Funny

      the syntax should be:
      In Korea, only old people (verb).

      for example:
      in Korea, only old people say the phrasing needs work.

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    3. Re:replacement for soviet joke? by DarthWiggle · · Score: 4, Funny

      In Soviet Korea, old people email you!

    4. Re:replacement for soviet joke? by Magus424 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apparently, we have the worst spelling as well :P (grammar)

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    5. Re:replacement for soviet joke? by tod_miller · · Score: 4, Funny

      in Korea, only old people strive to develop new memes

      damn this one is catchy.

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  3. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do they get their v4lub13 P3n!s 3n1arg3men+ notices?

  4. How about the Legal Community? by cbelle13013 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder how the legal community operates? In this country, you'd be disbarred for sending an SMS to a judge or use AIM to communicate with opposing council (for serious matters). As much as email is used, all the documents we use at our firm are typed up and made official.

    1. Re:How about the Legal Community? by Sebadude · · Score: 5, Funny

      It would probably be typed up, but it might look something like this

      DEAR AOL KOREA USAR

      IT HAS COMA 2 MAH ATENTION TAHT U HAEV MAED AN UNAUTHORIEZD USE OF MAH COPYRIGHTED WORK IN DA PR3PARATION OF A WORK D3RIEVD THEIR!N WTF LOL I HAEV RESERVAD AL RIGHTS IN TEH WORK FIRST PUBLISHED IN 2003 [AND HAEV REGIST3R3D COPYRIGHT THEIR!N OMG LOL UR WORK IS ASENTIALY IEDNTICAL 2 TEH WORK AND CLEARLY USAD DA WORK AS ITS BASIS.

      AS U N3ITHER ASK3D FOR NOR R3CEIEVD P3RMISION 2 USE TEH WORK AS DA BASIS FOR UR WORK NOR 2 MAEK OR DISTRIBUTE COPEIS INCLUDNG ALECTRONIC COPEIS OF SME I BLEIVE U HAEV WILFULY INFRNGED MAH RIGHTS UND3R 17 USC!!!!11 OMG WTF LOL S3CTION 101 ET SEQ!1!!111! WTF AND CUD B LIABL3 FOR STATU2RY DMAEGS AS HIGH AS $15000 AS SAT FORTH IN S3CTION 504(C)(2) THEIR!N OMG WTF

      I DAMAND TAHT U IM3DIAETLY CEAES DA US3 AND DISTRIBUTION OF AL INFRNGNG WORKS D3RIEVD FROM TEH WORK AND AL COPEIS INCLUDNG ELECTRONIC COPEIS OF SME TAHT U DELIEVR 2 ME IF APLICABLA AL UNUSED UNDISTRIBUTED COPEIS OF SM3 OR DESTROY SUCH COPEIS IMADIAETLY AND TAHT U DESIST FROM THIS OR ANY OTHAR INFRNGEMANT OF MAH RIGHTS IN DA FUTURA1!!1 OMG LOL IF I DO NOT RECEIEV AN AFIRMATIEV R3SPONS3 FROM U INDICATNG TAHT U HAEV FULY COMPLEID WIT THAS3 R3QUIERM3NTS I SHAL TAEK FURTHER ACTION AGANEST U!!!!1!!1 WTF

      URS TRULY, SEBADUDE

      It might be a bit of a challenge to decipher for most of us, but for these highly trained legal experts I'm sure it's nothing.

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  5. So what? by mOoZik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    SMS still costs some money, IM isn't as formal, and email is more wide-spread. Doesn't mean anyone has to do what HelloKitty loving teens are doing in a place where technology changes daily.

  6. if... by torrents · · Score: 5, Interesting

    email is for old people what do they think of those who use the "physical" postal service...

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    1. Re:if... by kfg · · Score: 5, Funny

      . . .what do they think of those who use the "physical" postal service...

      What's that, Gramps?

      KFG

    2. Re:if... by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 4, Funny
      by interpolation, snail mail is for dead people.

      Agreed. But don't discount the undead. Lawyers do everything by snail mail.

  7. Credibility of E-mail? by tyleroar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article: "Email's efficiency falls in terms of promptness, convenience and credibility," observed Yoo Hyon-ok, president, SK Communications. "With the continuous emergence of new communication means, communication formats will develop further in the future."
    How do IMs, blogs or SMS provide any more credibility than E-Mail?

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  8. Heh heh by daeley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In Korea, Email Is Only For Old People

    Of course, there is the corollary: IM, blogs, and SMS are kiddy tech. ;)

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  9. Have to be careful about reading this stuff by wrinkledshirt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love Korea a lot, but it's got some drawbacks, particularly in its journalism and media. The impetus behind this article might have a lot less to do with the actual oncoming death of email and a lot more to do with maintaining a tech-obsessed culture -- much easier to do if you're constantly promoting new toys, which Korea is.

    It'd be like a Hollywood tabloid saying that indipendent film is on the way out.

    The ebb of email is confirmed by a diminishing trend in pageviews, a tabulation of frequency in service used by email users. Daum Communication, the top email business in the country, saw its email service pageviews fall over 20 percent from 3.9 billion in October last year to 3 billion in October this year. By contrast, with SK Telecom, the nation's No. 1 communication firm, monthly SMS transmissions skyrocketed over 40 percent in October from 2.7 billion instances last October. Cyworld, a representative mini-homepage firm, witnessed its pageviews multiply over 26-fold from 650 million instances in October last year to 17 billion in October this year.

    This paragraph, for instance, is as much about corporate branding as it is about giving email stats.

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  10. korean spam killing korean smtp traffic by Indy1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i'm not surprised, korea is one of the worst spam sewers on the net outside the US, and many mail admins just pre-emptively firewall or ACL korean (or all of apnic) net space. Apparently Korean isp's could care less about all the firewalling, ACL's, and blacklists they end up in and their users are just moving on to IM's.

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  11. Here too by comwiz56 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's like that here (in America) too. Most teenagers in America use AIM, IRC, or MSN more than they email. Reasons for this are pretty simple. IMs (and chat rooms) provide instant communication (this is comparable to a phone call, or talking in the halls), whereas an email is like passing a note. The reader has to read and respond seperately.

    And as far as blogs, teens like talking about themselves, so this gives them a place to write about themselves as much as they want. Then anyone who knows how to get to it can read it, so its spread to the masses.

    And SMS. Many teens have cellphones, and aren't at their computer 24/7, so an easy way to communicate is to a device that they carry with them all the time.

  12. Meaningless Criticism... by NoTheory · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most of the reasons they give for email being shunned for other mediums are pretty flimsy.

    I know people who set up their AIM client so that you can't tell whether they're idle, and only respond to messages 10 hours after you've sent them, and i know people who watch their inboxes like obsessive hawks.

    as for email being less "fun" than aim... I don't know, i think my gmail account is pretty cool... and conversational for that matter.

    This debate is pretty silly, after all, all we're talking about is persistant electronic messaging. In terms of user experience, email and a client like ICQ aren't -drastically- different. Presumably email will get faster and friendlier, and hell, at some point probably may as well be the same as an IM system.

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  13. Re:An yet... by mabinogi · · Score: 4, Funny

    you know you've left yourself wide open there...

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  14. It's a shame, really... by YouHaveSnail · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know, writing decent email is an art form, something we used to take pride in. But these days, with these kids texting ungrammatical half-phrases all over the place, it's becoming something of a lost art. I tell you, kids today can't write a complete sentence, and they barely even know how to use an emoticon properly. :-\ It won't be long before people forget how to type. Oh, the inhumanity!

    1. Re:It's a shame, really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      stfu nub th1s is fster f u kan read it then stfu ^-^

      wut r u leik 90!!???!!1111 evry1 i knoe noes wut I say. ^-^; oh shit, moms coming. g2g kay thx bai

    2. Re:It's a shame, really... by dasunt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your post was probably intended to be humorous, but the point is valid.

      As we move from traditional letters to email and finally to instant messaging, it appears that we are taking less time and care in the composition of the messages.

      A carefully written message is more effective at transmitting an idea than a hastily written message. Proper spelling and grammar results in easier reading and a better impression of the author and the value of the message.

      I used to work for someone who would always use cute AOLisms in messages (e.i. "b4", "u", etc). While face-to-face conversations gave most people the impression that he was an intelligent guy, online he appeared to be a lot more ignorant, due to how he wrote.

      As I spend more and more time online writing quick messages, I find that my writing skills are slowly degrading. Hopefully, ten years down the road, the quality of my writing won't have suffered too much. But even now, writing this post, I see sentences that could be phrased better, words that should be replaced, etc.

  15. Maybe not just Korea by matth1jd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My grandparents prefer e-mail. Why? Because they have always enjoyed writing letters. It was the preferred method of correspondance to people who they couldn't otherwise call on the telephone. E-Mail for them is just a "new fangled" way of writing letters.
    If shown Instant Messaging they wouldn't use it as nifty as they think it might be, because it's a paradigm they don't neccesarily buy into.

    I would imagine this would apply to many older people. Hell, I even enjoy the eloquence of well written letter.

    --J

  16. Hell no by BrookHarty · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IM clients piss me off, always in your face. They have pop ups, blink in your tool bar, whatever to get your attention. Then to top it off there are 4 major IM's and the good multi-im clients tend to have bugs and not support all the features. There is a good console multi-IM client that works well under screen, but has proxy issues.

    Email works, hell, I'd rather have an IM2mail gateway so I can use a mail client. Mail is passive and you control it, IM wants to control your life. (No this isnt a in Russia joke.)

    I can also sort mail, pop web mail, attachments, etc. Mail is much more powerful. And newer IM devices include email accounts (POP or Ldap) Even ATT Wireless (Er Cingular now) the Ogo.

  17. There's also lots of stuff it's not good for by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We use e-mail for our help desk for example. You send an e-mail to the help address, it creates a new ticket for your issue. This works well, as we get documentation of everything you say to us, and us to you, and it allows us to deal with your problem when a person with the requisite knowledge has time.

    IM would be totally unsuited for this. When peopel have your attention in realtime, they want results in realtime. If I answer a chat about a Solaris problem, I'm not the one you want, you want the Solaris admin. With e-mail, this is all taken care of. Someone submits their request, and when the Solaris admin is available, he deals with it.

    I certianly don't think IM is useless, but I think young people (I include myself in this category, I'm 24) are a little too caught up with the wow factor. When it comes to bussiness, there are major reasons to want to use e-mail instead.

  18. How about...both? by laughingcoyote · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Each serves their purpose. If I need to speak to someone interactively and immediately, IM is generally a better choice. On the other hand, if I want to send a good bit of information to someone that they're likely going to want to refer back to, or they're not online when I think of something I need to tell them, email is a much better alternative.

    I quite like the way gmail is set up, and that is certainly done well to support a "conversational" format. I don't see why this persistent need in the tech community that one tool is always and for everything better than another. It seems pretty frequent though (Windows vs. Linux vs. *BSD vs. Solaris, email vs. IM, blogs vs. newsgroups, I could go on but I'd fill up the server.)

    Why doesn't anyone acknowledge that, quite like in reality, software is a tool, and one type of tool is generally better at a given job then another? You don't use a hammer to loosen a nut, nor a wrench to drive a nail, and you wouldn't want to be stuck without either when the need arises.

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  19. Should always specify North or South. by UranusReallyHertz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Korea is still very much divided into two completely different countrys. South korea is rich, modern, and the most wired country on earth. North Korea is very poor, essentially unchanged in the last 50 years, and the Internet is illegal, along with cell phones. Pyongyang tried an experimental rollout of cell phone service but it was stopped, probbably because the authorities couldn't keep adequate control over it. I've oftened wondered what it would be like if the North actually invaded the South. It would be almost like time travel for the poor Northern soldiers.

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    1. Re:Should always specify North or South. by hypatia · · Score: 5, Interesting

      North Koreans who escape to the South actually have special adjustment schools they can go to. It's not just about tech, but also teaches the Northerners, who've experienced famine, about things like dieting.

  20. I'm not old, just anti-social by Barlo_Mung_42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't like the immediate interaction of IM for the same reason I don't like phones, cell or otherwise. I don't like people virtually popping in and demanding my attention no matter what I am doing. Most of my calls go to VM and when I tried IM I found that I left it set to 'away' most of the time.
    If you need to get a hold of me, email is the fastest way. I check them every hour or so. I check the VM only 1-2 times a day. If only I could turn off the phone at work as well.