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Doom Movie Update
WeAz writes "Dark Horizons has an update on the currently filming Doom Movie. The article sums up the history of the production thus far and also includes a cool tidbit that reveals 'a large number of sequences will be shot purely in "first-person" perspective of the leading character (Karl Urban).' Unfortunately, the article also reports that 'The monsters aren't from hell, but rather people mutated by some nasty super-virus although the monsters look very similar to those in the game.' Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."
Look at the possibilities. They can save lots of money without having actors on screen. But... we can take it further! If they just put this in a really dark setting or envoirment.. We'll simply pretend there's lots of pretty monsters and scenery everywhere.
I read yesterday somewhere that the movie doesn't take place on Mars anymore either. It supposedly happens on some planet or base somewhere else in the galaxy or something. =[
...not because the movie will be bad, but because the first-person perspective is likely to upset your inner ear balance and cause you to feel queasy. Think Blair Witch Project.
How am I supposed to fit a pithy, relevant quote into 120 characters?
The first person view sounds cool, could inspire a new film technique (much like the Matrix's bullet time), but the old fashoned film technique of messing with a well-loved plot seems to be going strong.
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Why the choice not to have the monsters we know and love from HELL, not another MSV (Mutated Super Virus).
Are people afraid to mention the word HELL anymore? Jesus christ, Jesusland is taking over!
Excuse me, I don't mean to impose, but I am the ocean
Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."
It's already done, and called "Ghosts of Mars".
And it came the year before "28 days later".
I always thought 'BFG'[9000] was an acronym for something else ......
The virus plotline is so played out these days. I don't understand why Hollywood feels the need to change an element like monsters coming from Hell to monsters being mutated by a virus. Has Hell somehow become taboo? For the Dawn of the Dead remake, I was worried that they would change the whole zombies from hell concept because the original tagline was "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth." Fortunately, they left it intact. It's disappointing that a game so based off of demons from Hell is being changed over into the old virus mutation thing. It's already so overused.
Don't trust a bull's horn, a doberman's tooth, a runaway horse or me.
Um, we're talking about Doom, right? What plot? From what I can recall the plot went something like "Demons. Bad. Kill them all."...
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It isn't on Mars.
Monsters aren't from Hell.
SWAT instead of space marines.
Super-virus?
Can you REALLY call this DOOM? Why do they bother? Doom fans are gonna be angry, and for the rest, the movie could have been called Resident Evil IIV : It gets crappier anyway.
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For any Hollywood executive:
1) Acquire creative control
2) Change everything except the name
3) Profit!
Hollywood, like all business, is only interested in brands, not products. Therefore it is only the title that matters, not the plot.
Happens with nearly every adaptation of any existing book/comic book/game into a movie.
Creative people should have creative control. Irrefutable example of success: The Incredibles
Business people should not have creative control. Irrefutable example of total failure: Lion King 1 1/2
Business isn't willing to pay for products, innovation and careers, so we get brands, mortgage commercials and layoffs.
To the other posts blaming this on the "Religious Right:" If they talk about Hell, you complain. If someone else REMOVES the word "Hell", you complain. Which is it? They're talking about Hell too much, or not enough?
Besides, the "Religous Right" is a myth. They're religious alright, but they're not Christian, and they're not conservative. They would do good to read what the Bible has to say about religion.
It's mainly for the same reason that books aren't written in first person more often. It is very very difficult to do well.
:)
There are a number of things an author can't write into a story without a narrator. It also limits all knowledge of the world to the interpretation of one character. Very difficult to write a good story in first person.
Now, the REAL accomplishment would be to produce the movie in second person.
Business isn't willing to pay for products, innovation and careers, so we get brands, mortgage commercials and layoffs.
They are doing the whole thing in-game, the $70 million is for the GFX card.
Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."
Funny, it sounds like a market share placed, demographically targeted pile of cliched froth from where I'm siting.
To think that Phillip K Dick never made a cent on his books and died poor before recieving a cent on Bladerunner - and this thin "plot" from a video game makes it to the movies.
The boys at ID will be glad for the money, but it doesn't sound like great sci-fi, let alone art.
Si tacuisses philosophus mansisses. If you had kept quiet, you would have remained a philosopher.
Also, the probable final twist:
Space marine discover Statue of Libert half-buried in sand, realizes the remote planet was actually Earth, and shouts "You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! God damn you all to nasty super-virus!"
"The monsters aren't from hell, but rather people mutated by some nasty super-virus although the monsters look very similar to those in the game" Oh, and it's not on Mars anymore.
Ok, show of hands: who here is sick and tired of directors or producers who want to do a movie based on a game, but who can't get around their personal preferences and start making major changes to the story? Take this "they're not from Hell" and "it's not on mars" thing.
Whoever made the change is probably thinking "Oh, I don't like religion, and I don't believe in Hell, so let's come up with a pseudo-scientific premise instead... Viruses seem to be pretty popular lately, and 28 Days Later was a big hit... It'll be easier to convince the money people if we're copying a successful franchise... Let's do a virus. Hell is so passe..."
And he's probably thinking "Mars? There is nothing on mars but red dirt. And it isn't sexy enough. Let's make it a planet far, far away. And let's make the Pinky demon a loveable character so people will be conflicted when it attacks! Yes, that will be interesting."
And as far as the armor goes, well, they're probably just being cheap. It's easier to Ebay for used SWAT team armor than to build realistic DOOM armor, isn't it? Course it is. And all movie directors/producers "know" that we're all too stupid to know the difference, anyway. Bastards...
If I could get a few of these boors into a tiny, windowless room and apply a cluebat to them, I would simply say that if you're going to adapt a game, KEEP THE FUCKING STORY. Keep the characters and technology. KEEP THE LOOK OF THE ENVIRONMENT. Keep the main idea intact. You don't have to make the movie a shot-by-shot copy of the game, but for Christ's sake, don't change everything! Tone down the ego, boys, and up the humility.
Not like there's any chance of that. VIdeo-game movies are going to continue to suck forever more because of the immense egos of the people with enough power and money to produce/direct. There's no help for it.
We're better off just playing the games themselves, and letting the movies die out from disappointing box office returns.
NOTE, and COUNTEREXAMPLE: I thought Alien Vs. Predator wasn't bad, because they staged the movie in "the past" (still our future), predating all the games and other movies, and adding in some tasty backstory (how Weyland-Yutani got started, why they're so interested in aliens and predators, etc). So obviously SOME people can get it right.
That movie's only problem was insufficient Predator-Alien whoop-ass. Maybe they had a shortage (only a few cans got delivered?).
Farewell! It's been a fine buncha years!
When they make something on par with Alien, Aliens, or Event Horizon. Aliens was part of what Doom was based on. In fact, Doom originally used an Aliens license.
The next time I go to a horror or horror action film, I want to be deeply disturbed. The new Texas Chainsaw Massacre did that for me. Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection both missed it entirely (even though Resurrection did have some xenoeroticism, hehe). We need more original horror films.
Hell and body mutilation tend to be pretty good ways to disturb me. Event Horizon had both. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre had both. Aliens a Hellish evironment plus body mutilation. Alien had the latter.
If Doom the movie has people being cut open, internal organs spread out on the operating table, hung by hooks, and surrounded by Satanic symbols, I might watch it. If Doom has wall textures that look like spinal cords, sewn skin, pipes of blood, behemoth demon brains, and decorations based on tortured human bodies, I might watch it. But if it is just another zombie film with the good guys being chased by zombies for the rest of the film, I'll just make my own film to disturb.
In conclusion, H. R. Giger (the man who designed the artwork for Alien) should design the atmosphere for Doom the movie.
Don't rent it, either. Wait until it's can be seen someplace where your viewing of it does no contribute any extra to it's coffers. Encourage others to give it a miss.
I lost track long ago of the number of times I have heard people say, "It's going to suck! I *have* to see it!" And then the same people wonder wny most movies blow white hot chunks.
If you must have the needs and character of a three year old, at least have some patience (is it *that* emotionally difficult to avoid seeing a suckfest?) and view it in a way that does not encourage Hollywood to make any more.
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People, people! There is a reason that they've changed so much about the new DOOM movie, and that reason is the fact that DOOM was already made into a movie. They gotta look orignal now, don't they?
All sarcasm aside, this movie is going to totally blow. DOOM is the type of intellectual property that I think can only be made into a movie ONE WAY, and this way sure as hell ain't it. The best us die-hard DOOM fans can do now is sit back and watch it crash and burn horribly, never to be spoken of again. As far as I'm concerned, they might as well have given it to someone who could at least butcher it in style like Uwe Boll, but he was probably busily turning another videogame liscence into pure tripe.
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Is it me, or did it just get fatter in here?
Which of these forthcoming game adaptations is going to be the worst:
Doom
Duke Nukem
Dungeons and Dragons 2
Vampire:The Masquerade
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