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WeAz writes "Dark Horizons has an update on the currently filming Doom Movie. The article sums up the history of the production thus far and also includes a cool tidbit that reveals 'a large number of sequences will be shot purely in "first-person" perspective of the leading character (Karl Urban).' Unfortunately, the article also reports that 'The monsters aren't from hell, but rather people mutated by some nasty super-virus although the monsters look very similar to those in the game.' Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."
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Look at the possibilities. They can save lots of money without having actors on screen. But... we can take it further! If they just put this in a really dark setting or envoirment.. We'll simply pretend there's lots of pretty monsters and scenery everywhere.
I read yesterday somewhere that the movie doesn't take place on Mars anymore either. It supposedly happens on some planet or base somewhere else in the galaxy or something. =[
What... did the producers look at R.E. and went wow, let's incorporate some ideas from that as well so that we have a bigger fanbase!
...not because the movie will be bad, but because the first-person perspective is likely to upset your inner ear balance and cause you to feel queasy. Think Blair Witch Project.
How am I supposed to fit a pithy, relevant quote into 120 characters?
The first person view sounds cool, could inspire a new film technique (much like the Matrix's bullet time), but the old fashoned film technique of messing with a well-loved plot seems to be going strong.
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I don't get it.
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
Why the choice not to have the monsters we know and love from HELL, not another MSV (Mutated Super Virus).
Are people afraid to mention the word HELL anymore? Jesus christ, Jesusland is taking over!
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Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."
It's already done, and called "Ghosts of Mars".
And it came the year before "28 days later".
I always thought 'BFG'[9000] was an acronym for something else ......
The monsters aren't from hell, but rather people mutated by some nasty super-virus
Good, because the idea of demons from Hell being on Mars is just too far-fetched. I mean, really...
The virus plotline is so played out these days. I don't understand why Hollywood feels the need to change an element like monsters coming from Hell to monsters being mutated by a virus. Has Hell somehow become taboo? For the Dawn of the Dead remake, I was worried that they would change the whole zombies from hell concept because the original tagline was "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth." Fortunately, they left it intact. It's disappointing that a game so based off of demons from Hell is being changed over into the old virus mutation thing. It's already so overused.
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Wow, maybe there really are deadly microbes on mars.
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a large number of sequences will be shot purely in "first-person" perspective of the leading character
In other news, sales of vomit bags jumped markedly as theater owners began placing large advance orders in preparation for an upcoming movie based on the Doom computer game franchise.
Um, we're talking about Doom, right? What plot? From what I can recall the plot went something like "Demons. Bad. Kill them all."...
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according to my irc channel, the state of the movie not being about hell, not being based on mars, not having space marines but instead swat teams, and having mutated virus monsters instead of hellspawn is analagous to something you would see being done to Jenna Jameson in one of her many films. also, Here's an editorial on the movie.
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why bother even calling it Doom then? doesnt sound remotely like the game...
> A BAD teleporting accident and he's still alive?? Star Trek quote: "What came back...didn't live long."
At least, thats what my friend said oh so many years back when I first showed him Doom in all its pixelated glory.... he was on the receiving end of it :)
She's built like a steak house, but she handles like a bistro....
"One character is a technician called "Pinky" who has a cybernetic wheelchair thanks to a bad teleporting accident." A BAD teleporting accident and he's still alive?? Star Trek quote: "What came back...didn't live long."
'The monsters aren't from hell, but rather people mutated by some nasty super-virus although the monsters look very similar to those in the game.'
The whole idea behind doom was that it was a rift between our world, and Hell...
"The monsters aren't from hell, but rather people mutated by some nasty super-virus although the monsters look very similar to those in the game." Now come on people, one of the major scare aspects of Doom is that the monsters are from hell. I almost shat my pants when monters started flying out of portals from hell. Hell is your worst mightmare, and without Hell, Doom just won't be as scary as the game was. This is a major problem with game->movie ports; 'plot-chopping'
Not sure why they would say the monsters aren't from hell anymore. Using a virus seems like a stupid idea because then you're stealing from Resident Evil, and that would be bad. The monsters are from Hell. Again, it's not such a bad thing when the Religious Right takes over the world -- is it?
I'm disappointed with the level of creative degredation in the Doom film. This one is going down as R.E. #3, IMHO.
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Well, we've got a movie not set on mars, and it has mutants, not demons from hell and may take place on earth? WTF is this movie supposed to be? I'd say the plots is "Doom"ed.
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I wonder if we will be able to apply the Start To Crate rating system to the movie like we can to the game.
The the game (or movie) can be compared to the length of time before you see a crate, the longer the time the better the game or in my theory a movie.
It isn't on Mars.
Monsters aren't from Hell.
SWAT instead of space marines.
Super-virus?
Can you REALLY call this DOOM? Why do they bother? Doom fans are gonna be angry, and for the rest, the movie could have been called Resident Evil IIV : It gets crappier anyway.
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Sorry, but these are not minor changes to the Doom story line. Looks like we're in for some cross-media craptacular.
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For any Hollywood executive:
1) Acquire creative control
2) Change everything except the name
3) Profit!
Hollywood, like all business, is only interested in brands, not products. Therefore it is only the title that matters, not the plot.
Happens with nearly every adaptation of any existing book/comic book/game into a movie.
Creative people should have creative control. Irrefutable example of success: The Incredibles
Business people should not have creative control. Irrefutable example of total failure: Lion King 1 1/2
Business isn't willing to pay for products, innovation and careers, so we get brands, mortgage commercials and layoffs.
Doom 3 cost about $10 million to make and will probably be more profitable then this.
Why was she replaced with that Karl Urban guy? She is the only reason I rented the first movie, and the only reason I'll rent the second one... but without her you bet I won't rent the third movie.
Neat technique, surprised it hasn't been done more often.
The first lesson in scriptwriting school is that most movies follow a three-act structure. What will the three acts be in the Doom movie?
Act I: Shooting anything that moves
ACt II: Sweepin up the giblets
Act III: Shooting anything that moves
then its not Doom. Plain simple
Change that alone changes everything into something that isn't Doom.
To the other posts blaming this on the "Religious Right:" If they talk about Hell, you complain. If someone else REMOVES the word "Hell", you complain. Which is it? They're talking about Hell too much, or not enough?
Besides, the "Religous Right" is a myth. They're religious alright, but they're not Christian, and they're not conservative. They would do good to read what the Bible has to say about religion.
Bah. Might as well just call it "Barbie in Space" and have done with.
I think that if there is any existing movie that it should be based off of, is Event Horizon.
Now if Doom the Movie as a sequel to Event Horizon would actually make sense. And would set the stage for plenty of gore.
Carmack needs to pull the plug on this movie before it ruins the Doom brand. No hell, no mars, no space marines, but they're including a character "Pinky" ?!?
This movie has the chance to be something. Let's not turn it into another Army of Darkness...
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This is moronic. The hell sequence was one of the best parts about Doom 3. I still think Doom 2 was the best Doom game, though. The concept of hell on earth was pretty damn scary.
Hey! I thought The Rock was supposed to be in this movie! But they're right, combining a movie starring a wrestler and a movie about a video game... it would never, ever, work.
Just think about Hulk Hogan playing Mario... disasterous.
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I mean, that seems like the driving force behind movies these days.
Hence, movies get butchered into an appropriate state for (an American) 13 year old to be allowed to go and see... or something like that (if I understand the meaning of PG13 right).
Look what they did to Aliens vs. Predator.
And then theres the tragedy of Riddick.
This will happen to the Doom movie as well.
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A cool tidbit is the most we should expect from this franchise-exploitation effort.
Mixing videogames and movies is like mixing milk and orange juice: they are both good on their own, but put 'em together and you end up with a foul brew.
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"Political reasons"? What kind of stupid reason is that? Passion of the Christ upset religions, but they did it anyway, in all it's gory glory. I fail to see why the same thing can't happen here.
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Someone pointed out to me that this film already lifted most of the elements from DOOM. I realized he was right.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119081/
Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me."
Funny, it sounds like a market share placed, demographically targeted pile of cliched froth from where I'm siting.
To think that Phillip K Dick never made a cent on his books and died poor before recieving a cent on Bladerunner - and this thin "plot" from a video game makes it to the movies.
The boys at ID will be glad for the money, but it doesn't sound like great sci-fi, let alone art.
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"The monsters aren't from hell, but rather people mutated by some nasty super-virus although the monsters look very similar to those in the game" Oh, and it's not on Mars anymore.
Ok, show of hands: who here is sick and tired of directors or producers who want to do a movie based on a game, but who can't get around their personal preferences and start making major changes to the story? Take this "they're not from Hell" and "it's not on mars" thing.
Whoever made the change is probably thinking "Oh, I don't like religion, and I don't believe in Hell, so let's come up with a pseudo-scientific premise instead... Viruses seem to be pretty popular lately, and 28 Days Later was a big hit... It'll be easier to convince the money people if we're copying a successful franchise... Let's do a virus. Hell is so passe..."
And he's probably thinking "Mars? There is nothing on mars but red dirt. And it isn't sexy enough. Let's make it a planet far, far away. And let's make the Pinky demon a loveable character so people will be conflicted when it attacks! Yes, that will be interesting."
And as far as the armor goes, well, they're probably just being cheap. It's easier to Ebay for used SWAT team armor than to build realistic DOOM armor, isn't it? Course it is. And all movie directors/producers "know" that we're all too stupid to know the difference, anyway. Bastards...
If I could get a few of these boors into a tiny, windowless room and apply a cluebat to them, I would simply say that if you're going to adapt a game, KEEP THE FUCKING STORY. Keep the characters and technology. KEEP THE LOOK OF THE ENVIRONMENT. Keep the main idea intact. You don't have to make the movie a shot-by-shot copy of the game, but for Christ's sake, don't change everything! Tone down the ego, boys, and up the humility.
Not like there's any chance of that. VIdeo-game movies are going to continue to suck forever more because of the immense egos of the people with enough power and money to produce/direct. There's no help for it.
We're better off just playing the games themselves, and letting the movies die out from disappointing box office returns.
NOTE, and COUNTEREXAMPLE: I thought Alien Vs. Predator wasn't bad, because they staged the movie in "the past" (still our future), predating all the games and other movies, and adding in some tasty backstory (how Weyland-Yutani got started, why they're so interested in aliens and predators, etc). So obviously SOME people can get it right.
That movie's only problem was insufficient Predator-Alien whoop-ass. Maybe they had a shortage (only a few cans got delivered?).
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When they make something on par with Alien, Aliens, or Event Horizon. Aliens was part of what Doom was based on. In fact, Doom originally used an Aliens license.
The next time I go to a horror or horror action film, I want to be deeply disturbed. The new Texas Chainsaw Massacre did that for me. Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection both missed it entirely (even though Resurrection did have some xenoeroticism, hehe). We need more original horror films.
Hell and body mutilation tend to be pretty good ways to disturb me. Event Horizon had both. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre had both. Aliens a Hellish evironment plus body mutilation. Alien had the latter.
If Doom the movie has people being cut open, internal organs spread out on the operating table, hung by hooks, and surrounded by Satanic symbols, I might watch it. If Doom has wall textures that look like spinal cords, sewn skin, pipes of blood, behemoth demon brains, and decorations based on tortured human bodies, I might watch it. But if it is just another zombie film with the good guys being chased by zombies for the rest of the film, I'll just make my own film to disturb.
In conclusion, H. R. Giger (the man who designed the artwork for Alien) should design the atmosphere for Doom the movie.
i wonder if we will be able to apply the Start To Crate rating system to the movie like we can to the game.
Only people who do not like the game Sokoban can trust such a rating system. Avid players of Sokoban and similar games (such as FCI's Boxxle, which was slammed on page 7) believe that the "start to crate" review system unfairly penalizes their favorite game, which doesn't try to hide that it's about pushing crates around.
Don't rent it, either. Wait until it's can be seen someplace where your viewing of it does no contribute any extra to it's coffers. Encourage others to give it a miss.
I lost track long ago of the number of times I have heard people say, "It's going to suck! I *have* to see it!" And then the same people wonder wny most movies blow white hot chunks.
If you must have the needs and character of a three year old, at least have some patience (is it *that* emotionally difficult to avoid seeing a suckfest?) and view it in a way that does not encourage Hollywood to make any more.
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Everyone keeps blaming the *insert religious group here* for making the plot changes so the monsters aren't from Hell. The problem with that though is that religious people are the only ones who believe in Hell. It's not their fault. I blame the non-religious people that don't believe in Hell. The studio is trying to make the movie more believable to these people. Super virus is believable to everybody. Hell demons are only for the religious. Screw all you non-religious people. Here's my finger.
Just think about Hulk Hogan playing Mario... disasterous.
Would you rather have Captain Lou Albano playing Mario?
Why do script writers and movie studios feel the need to take well established idea and change it into something completely different?
Since this movie no longer revolves around neither Hell or Mars can you really still call it Doom?
Doom was and always has been (to my knowledge) a game about a marine who has to battle against the forces of hell on Mars. He does this in the first game and he does this in the third (Doom 2 was on Earth).
I've heard the reasons before that the film studios often feel they need to make the movie appeal to both those who know the story and those that don't... But in this case is it so hard?!
* Marines answer distress call from planet
* Planet was secret government base into new form of travel
* Gateway to Hell opened
* Marines attempt to close gate and escape from planet
* None of them make it except one
* Irony is that the survivor (and lead character) actually died when the dropship crash landed at the start of the film and is trapped in Hell forever.
* The other marines infact actually closed the gate and escaped, but since the lead is in Hell he didn't know that.
Easy.
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This movie is going to be so hilariously bad, I'm already laughing.
Eh.
Lemme guess: It's revealed in the end that everything was actually set on Earth. Some gov't/military conspiracy teleported the heroes to a lab to test the affects of a top-secret bioweapon. The End.
Why not just call it Resident Evil 3: Doom?
I remember this from way back in the days when doom 2 was new, the doom novels followed (not a bad read when you're 13) and there was talk of a movie back then. i remember at the time thinking "make a movie out of a video game? like that'll happen.
boy was i wrong.
i feel we should all pray that this one dosen't suck.
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Gus Van Sant's Elephant hand a great deal of first person perspectives in it, including a lot of long tracks down corridors (check out the trailer on the site). Essentially a Columbine-esque story, one of the key reasons for doing this was to link the viewer's point of view with that of a Doom-like computer game reputed to have influenced the Columbine killings. It's quite chilling when you watch it.
Before that, Kubrick's The Shining was a pioneering film in using the newly invented steadicam to do some neat tracking shots - albeit at a lower angle than FPS - of Danny while he's riding his trike around the hotel.
I'm amazed that they're still calling it Doom. Once you take out Mars and Hell what do you have left? Guns maybe. The movie that is being made isn't Doom and I'm certain I will be renting this one, if at all.
If this is Doom then, super mario brothers was the best computer game adaptation.
Did the underpants gnomes teach you anything??
1)Acquire creative control
2)Change everything except the name
3)?????
4)Profit
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Todd Hollenshead: We didn't tie the script to the specific story in the game. There are lots of similarities, but there are many things that are different in a way that's not inconsistent with what we've done in the games. I believe that fans will find the story in the movie fresh and exciting, but still very much DOOM.
Might these be the differences he mentioned?
Hahaha, cmon. Nobody actually saw that, right? Right?
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Definitely it's not the 'PC people' that oppose demonic violence. In fact, many forms of violence in entertainment are committed against supernatural beings because it's defendable in the face of political correctness to harm demons but not humans.
Instead, the sensitivity of making hell-related films is a reaction to the conservative members of American society who use the bible to criticize anything that's not like them. I tend to agree more with the Christians who thought the Exorcist was a terrific film because it tried to depict true evil. Unfortunately, the current crop of American Christianity shudders at the thought of depicting graphic evil, such as a possessed child violently masturbating with a crucifix. A movie like the Exorcist could NEVER be made in America today. This misconceived DOOM movie is a prime example of how Hollywood's creativity is being suffocated by America's conservatism.
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People, people! There is a reason that they've changed so much about the new DOOM movie, and that reason is the fact that DOOM was already made into a movie. They gotta look orignal now, don't they?
All sarcasm aside, this movie is going to totally blow. DOOM is the type of intellectual property that I think can only be made into a movie ONE WAY, and this way sure as hell ain't it. The best us die-hard DOOM fans can do now is sit back and watch it crash and burn horribly, never to be spoken of again. As far as I'm concerned, they might as well have given it to someone who could at least butcher it in style like Uwe Boll, but he was probably busily turning another videogame liscence into pure tripe.
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Which of these forthcoming game adaptations is going to be the worst:
Doom
Duke Nukem
Dungeons and Dragons 2
Vampire:The Masquerade
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That'll only piss off the consolers!! They'd better include some third person action to.
Doom: Space Marine on the moons of Mars fights evil demons from the bowels of Hell. Doom Movie: Generic marines on some planet fight evil monsters that are really humans mutated by a virus. They... they do know what Doom is, right?
And We all know how bad that movie turned out.
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..when the movie was first posted on slashdot: They are going to take what makes doom doom, and fuck it up.
So, to anybody actually associated with this movie, you can rest assured that I will not be going to see it. And further, I will tell everyone I know not to see it. And yes, I will lie if I have to to keep them from seeing it.
Because I am an asshole.
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Whoa, the Doom movie might be bad? Wow, that's hard to believe considering how successful most of the movies based on video games have been. Like... well... I'm sure they're out there.
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Happens with nearly every adaptation of any existing book/comic book/game into a movie.
If JK.Rowling can chose not to make a movie with Spielberg any one can have creative control. But book authors are more interested in money than in the creative control. When they have the money in their pocket they complain about the creative process.
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Sounds like a version of 28 Days Later based on Mars to me.
And using the doorway-into-hell story of the original game could be compared to Event Horizon. What's your point? Besides, IMHO, 28 Days Later was good. Better, in fact, than Event Horizon.
I think Dark Horizon comes to mind, actually freaked me out too... Doom could have a story similar to that, tbough it might start to feel like Aliens on a gigantic space station or asteroid instead of that small planet thing...
Personally I think that video gaming as an industry needs to distance itself from the film industry. Over the years, through countless tie-ins and franchises (most of which have been risible), we have come to associate them as natural bedfellows. It is a massive cash cow for all involved, but ultimately they dilute the franchise and leave gaming/films fans feeling cheated and disappointed. Especially game fans: paying £40 for a substandard piece of advertising isn't very fun. Dropping the shameless cash-ins and concentrating on upping the thrills and emotions felt and desired by both game and film fans would be much appreciated :)
I would much rather watch a film which captures the claustrophobic and downright scary nature of Doom, than one which simply shares the name.
I live in a red state, just above the buckle of the bible belt. I understand that some people around here would be somewhat distressed by the portrayal of demons and demonic images. But after all wouldn't our fearless hero be blasting the crap out of the demons? Waging a sort of literal spiritual warfare? Blowing the crap out of all things demonic? If they're worried about the suspension of disbelief. Well it's a movie based on a video game were stuff gets blown up a lot. I mean a LOT. So I don't get the virus over the escape from hell thing. I don't see Christians being alienated after all. The literalist bible belter types seem to believe that there are literal bogeymen type demons like Cacodemons and lost souls, well if they don't then perhaps they just act like they do.
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Evil mutating viruses... teleportation... using game concept to make a "horror" movie... I can't see how they could be more ironic by choosing the title as Doom.
You haven't seen how bad this could become until you've had a chance to check out the Starship Troopers 2 DVD. Even the "extras" were embarassing, as they essentially had the producers talk about the movie they WOULD have made if they had more money.
Dude, Doom 3 looks so damn realistic, I don't understand why they can't design the movie world in a Doom universe and record actual gameplay to make a movie. This will add a little bit of randomness and uncertainty into the production of the movie, enabling things the producer hasn't quite thought of to happen in the movie. It would be bitchen. That could then be edited in the traditional filming style to include the best parts in the movie. This would be so awesome.
I'm sorry, but if they don't stick with the game's basic parts. Mars + Monsters From Hell + ... it's gonna flop in my opinion. Especially if they're worried about shocking people. I know games to movies don't always work, but this has potential to make a good horror film and they're going to wash it out by making it more ficticious by removing the hell and mars part.
Granted the existance of hell is up for debate by people, it still touches very close to home more then some far off planet with a whacked out virus. Also I think Mars is more appealing because 1> it stick with the game and 2> we as humans are actively taking a closer look at Mars with the rover missions and whatnot. This could be a nice little interest booster even if it's a horror film.
I think if they go with what the article said is going to happen the film is totally ruined and shouldn't even bare the Doom name.
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This is why games that are turned into movies always fail horribly. The only people that can really be guaranteed to go see a movie like this are the people that played the video game in the first place. When Hollywood changes such major aspects of the plot, a big reason to go see the movie for gamers is removed. Non-gamers arn't going to go see the movie because it's unfamiliar to them, and gamers arn't going to go see the movie because it isn't in the spirit of the game they loved in the first place. Hollywood should concentrate on taking a game plot and fleshing it out into a good movie, instead of changing the entire concept and making a really horrible movie.
Why do movie producers INSIST on alienating and disgusting their target market?
It's not like people who weren't familiar with the game are going to go see it. (Unless it involves a hot female role: See Ecks vs. Sever or Tomb Raider).
But jesus, it's Doom. It fucking WRITES ITSELF. Just give us imps, gore, and cool FX in space and hell.
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Ok Starship Troopers was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Can't believe there is even a sequel. First movie was so bad it should only be available in .wav formats so no one has to watch it again.
Anyways, Doom the movie will be the greatest thing. I won't need any drivers, directX, no blue screen, runs at very high FPS. Hells, I don't even need windoze to walk into the theatres.
Super, the big fat Christian Americans who run this world will now be taking Hell out of everything. The list is as follows: Video Games Television Movies Books Magazines Music Oh, this just in! Jesuss' head will be replacing all the dead presidents on our American currency! Oh praise God!
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So it's a reference. Thanks for throwing us a bone.
Fuckers.
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Yeah um...
You can play it just fine on linux in opengl. That gets rid of your directX, and blue screen, and you'll be fine for your high FPS and drivers if you just get yourself an nVidia 6800GT or Ultra.
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...is that there will be fewer opportunities for Karl Urban to do an insane mad growl scream berzerker rush at the enemies, like he did as Eomer at the battle of the Pelennor. (Think reversing grip on spear while on horseback, if you forget the scene.) I had to admit, it's a pretty impressive charge.
OTOH, he's probably grateful for the same fact.
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If you want to get your site slashdotted, just make a machinima adaptation of the Doom movie using the Doom 3 engine.
Well now that the movie has nothing to do with the game, we can still argue that the title is correct because this movie is definitely doomed.. Any hope that it would even be worth renting has now been swept away. I'd rather just edit all of the game's FMV together than subject myself to this excercise in mediocrity.
"future trips to Mars that will have probes return with samples of the martian surface may contain deadly microbes of course, foreign to our world."
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microbes... from HELL!
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24 FPS isn't that many. =P
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The source engine gives it pretty nice graphics even if there are ocasional glitches (elongated necks during some cutscenes). Think somewhere between Half-Life 2 and Deus Ex (2 for the graphics 1 for the size of the levels). Although it lack the fysics of Half-Life 2 or Deus Ex 1. I still think Deus Ex 1 with its bullets that rained back down stands alone for that).
The story is okay, very Deus Ex again but way way better then the diablo that was redemption. There are some lenghty combat levels but in between there are plenty of true RPG talky bits where you can both use wits and brawn to solve problems.
The game is by no means perfect as I had hoped for a deeper game dealing more with your vampire nature. Your character seems very resigned to becoming a vampire. There are some dark story lines but apart from them it could have been a Deus Ex storyline. Except that this time at least you got the option I always wanted in those games. Screw them all. If you don't like anyone in the game you can be decide to be a lone wolf instead. Finally.
Good game, not perfect but a RPG well worth playing if you like Deus Ex style games.
What makes it so highly recommended is that there is a real difference between the various clans. Malkavians (madmen) are a lot of fun as they "hear" voices and give you the weirdest conversation options.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Duke Nukem: That is going to be a movie? Probably going to be released after Forever has ended.
D&D 2: We seen the first. Yuck. I don't even know what was so bad about it. Watched it recently because I was desperate for some fantasy and am going senile. Sequels rarely improve.
That leaves V:TM. Should be simple enough. There have been plenty of Vampire movies before. Granted the TV series is not that well reviewed (never seen it) but how hard can it be to make a good movie when Hollywood has already made movies that could easily have been set in that universe?
In theory both D&D and V:TM should be the easiest to turn into a movie as they are not stories but universes. Doom and DN both got heroes, sets, equipment, baddies that people will expect to see. Not so in the roleplaying games. V:TM could be set anywhere and be any kind of story, comedy, romance, action, suspense, sci-fi and still be true. After all the entire setting is, reality + monsters. D&D is slightly harder since it so depends on creating the right "magical" world.
So my bet is on V:TM. It is the only one that a "serious" crew could work on without everyone calling them a bunch of nerds.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Some nerds took it the wrong way and now half of slashdot believes Doom will have a movie. Idiots.
If this is serious then it is a joke. 70 million dollars I have seen mentioned. Not exactly a lot for a special effects movie. Worse if you then see an excuse that recreating the hell from the game is to expensive you really have to start wondering about the capacities of the crew. Are sheep entrails nailed to upside down crosses (two bits of wood nailed to each other) really that expensive? Are we going to get "Red Dward" sets instead?
The only thing being used is the name. I wish them luck. ID so far has had a good reputation but if they tie their name to this movie it will be mud in hollywood forever. Don't do it. Get the lawyers and force the movie to adopt a different name. It is not going to earn you anything but ridicule.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Based on the posters, I thought it was a movie about soap.
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Actually Hollywood doesn't appear to care what their viewers like/think.
They have made so many movies that bombed, and they were OBVIOUSLY going to bomb to anyone with common-sense. I doubt a boycott would help much - look at the number of Kevin Costner bombs Hollywood released...
And then they blame their lack of profit on "pirates".
India's film industry (aka Bollywood) knows what their audience likes and they keep giving it to them, over and over and over. Even though it's always "hero and heroine frolicking amongst the trees, dancing on stage etc". Who cares, it makes them money. I'm not their audience.
Same goes for the Hong Kong film industry - they give their target audience what they want.
So it make me wonder what Hollywood is really up to. What is behind their decisions?
If Hollywood really wanted to profit and were really pandering to the Conservative Christians etc, then shouldn't we be see more movies like Finding Nemo- those really really sell - the kids want to watch, the parents have to come along. Next the whole school wants to watch. Family values and all that.
But no. Hollywood appears to have some other agenda (and it's not purely profit driven). Either that or they and their highly-paid consultants are so out of touch with their audiences that it beggars belief.
Same thing with Office Space. Completely mis-marketted. And Firefly. The *creative* types knew exactly what they were doing. The marketting types were completely head-fucked.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
Another super-virus? Aw come on.. gimme a break. Way to fuck up the whole premise of the video game!
What a waste.. what a waste..! They could've done great things with Doom, and now they're wasting the opportunity.
I hope this isn't a fiasco on the order of the Dungeons and Dragons movie, which could've been a superior flick (look at all the damn material they had to work with!) but ended up being a sappy, stupid little child-friendly, overacted farce.
f) the main character now lives in a pineapple under the sea
I totally agree with the guys here (some of them girls maybe? hahaha...) stating that there is some plot in Doom3 and it could have been a good movie. Last week I thought of how it could be, and it reminded me of Event Horizon, which I think was quite cool and creepy - anyone else had that thought? :(
It really is annoying that they've written Hell out of the movie. It does not sound like doom at all
Somebody should make a movie about Hell.
I for one, do not think it matters if the mosnters in the movie are from Hell or just virus mutants. It does not even matter if the movie happens on Mars or on some other planet.
Doom does have a decent storyline, but it really is not all that integral to the feel and themse of the game. As long as its about some hard ass marine armed beyond any sense of sanity, blasting lots of monsters into puddles of goop, it shall be worthy of the name Doom.
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It lost me when the guy got out of bed and didn't have any bedsores, dehydration or loss of mobility. Then it got more lame. Yes, I am an old misery guts.
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The first person view sounds cool, could inspire a new film technique (much like the Matrix's bullet time), but the old fashoned film technique of messing with a well-loved plot seems to be going strong.
You are joking, right? Right?
First person viewpoint, video-game movie: House of the Dead.
Zombie. Rave. Movie.
FP was used extensively during the terrible, terrible moments of the film (just about all of them), when characters were shooting their way through shuffling zombies, or when characters snuffed it. Oh, it's a great MST-like movie. It's right up there with Deep Blue Sea and Reign of Fire for Bad Movie Night (when you drink lots of beer and eat home-made nachos, just 'cause you feel fuckin' terrible about work and life).
FP viewpoint is not a good idea. Not even close. It's been tried. And it's always failed.
Always.
Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
What the fuck!?!? I didn't even know there was a Starship troopers 2. When was this released? That's sad that even I don't know this, and I'm a pretty big sci-fi fan.
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That doesn't make any sense. I'm an atheist and I would rather see the hell plot. Just because people don't believe in something doesn't mean they can't use their imagination for a few hours. Just look and Star Wars, people love that shit, and I doubt it's because of the great script or talented acting either.
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But, you see... they couldn't have the monsters be from Hell©. That wouldn't be right...
I mean, isn't Hell copyrighted by the Catholic church? And the MPAA couldn't be charged with stealing copyrighted works...http://general.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/7478/
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exerpts:
Todd Hollenshead: The script is close to final and we're very happy with it.
Todd Hollenshead: I want to see the movie be true to what the legacy of the DOOM games mean to fans. Scary, intense, lots of action, and consistent with what we've done in the games. However, movies and games are different media, so some things will and should be different. I'm not looking for "DOOM 3: The Movie" and that's not what it will be. The script is not based on the DOOM 3 story, but is based on the DOOM universe, so fans will see plenty in the movie that they will recognize from the game.
Todd Hollenshead: We didn't tie the script to the specific story in the game. There are lots of similarities, but there are many things that are different in a way that's not inconsistent with what we've done in the games. I believe that fans will find the story in the movie fresh and exciting, but still very much DOOM.
Seems that the ID guys don't want Doom the movie to be like Doom the game. However he does say that he wants it to be based on the doom universe. Still, I don't see how super-viruses and no space-marines are a part of the doom universe
I think ID has left the ball drop recently. I had a lot of fun playing doom1 and 2, but doom3 was almost tedious. The graphics were great but it wasn't really fun to play. I hope they have better judgement about the movie script than about their latest game.
Oh well, here's hoping to a great Quake4!
No, what's sad is the rip off that they tried to pawn off as a sequel to Starship Troopers. It was released this past summer (I think, maybe it was earlier than that). If you insist on seeing it, rent it, don't buy it.
The first movie wasn't great, but at least they had the budget for a coolness factor. The second is a below B budget movie. They recycled the CGI from the first movie for the bugs, and they didn't even use real blank firing guns for this one. Their weapons were just flashlights that were wired into a plastic shell that looked like the guns from ST1, with a bit of fibre optic in the "muzzle" that would blink when the trooper "fired" it.
This isn't just straight to video, it's straight to MS3K. What made it all the more sad was that the producers and the director had done interviews describing what they wanted to do originally, but couldn't because of the pathetic budget.
If you're masochistic enough to want to still want to see it, rent it. It's just not worth buying unless you can find it for less than $3 (I think it's worth $2, but I add an extra $1 because you can reuse the case).
or Super Mario Bros....or Mortal Kombat...or....anything-based-on-a-video-game... > Total suckage!! Take a good theme and the producers RAPE it. Honestly, they are trying too fucking hard to make it more "realistic". WTF man? It's DOOM. It's supposed to be FANTASY!! >
Life is not for the lazy.
It's mixing in religious fundamentalism with the MPAA's stupidity in a fun and accurate way. :)
Exactly, you got it dead on. It's all about PC. Because to even mention the idea of "Hell" would to inadvertently acknowledge the existence of "heaven".
But ohh Noooo!!! We must not have that. It might OFFEND someone of another religion. *gasp*
Life is not for the lazy.
Does anyone know who's playing the wisecracking black sidekick?
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...nuff said.
When your done, convince me that Lucifer was not portrayed in that movie.
And by the way, most devoted christians I know think this is the best religious movie ever to grace the silver screen. In fact, it has gathered quite a cult following...in an ironic born-again-christian sort of way.
Life is not for the lazy.
I've not seen Tomb Raider, but every other one I've cast eyes on has made me want to turn it off very quickly.
| [...] a large number of sequences will be shot
| purely in "first-person" perspective [...]
Ah. Sam Raimi got tapped to direct Doom then, did he?
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Judging by the vast majority of comments here, I'd say that the people who played the game won't being going to this movie, and I doubt anyone who didn't play the game will see the movie, so who is actually going to show up for this thing?
Seems that the ID guys don't want Doom the movie to be like Doom the game. However he does say that he wants it to be based on the doom universe. Still, I don't see how super-viruses and no space-marines are a part of the doom universe :(
Todd Hollenshead is the id spin-meister. Don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Spinning PR yarns is his job, and he's really good at it.
Regarding the super-virus idea... Who's to say that's not what was causing all of the problems in the doom games. It wasn't ever specified, but couldn't that just be because it was never discovered? Maybe the only reason the hero got a chance to be a hero was because he was naturally resistant to the same virus that drove everyone else insane and made them mutate. Maybe all of the monsters are really just a bunch of fuckin pushovers and the hero just so happened to be resistant to the virus. Blah blah blah blah blah blah.... Who cares...it's just a movie.
The concept of demon-ridden hell is purely a christian one. Doom 3 has lots of demonic symbols associated with Satanism (like inverted pentagrams), which is a spin-off of Christianity. In order for the movie to appeal to the widest possible audience, the christianity-related references had to be removed. It makes sense to me.
The plot 'wrong teleportation gate opened - monsters arriving' has been overused though, and I don't know if it can be the selling point. Maybe a very good direction that really delivers a new experience in horror/thriller movies will be the key.
Keep the mars setting.
Keep the look of the DOOM monsters
Keep the space marine stuff
etc
And then just replace "hellspawn" with "mutation" or something like that to placate the stupid idiot conservatives who will complain at the use of "hellspawn" in a movie.
To those idiots, get a life and a clue.
Dont go see the movie if you dont like hellspawn.
Dont let your kids see the movie.
But dont try and force your views on other people.
Unless you go to see this movie, it doesnt affect you in the slightest.
Athough on the other hand, the big question is how many people will see the crap they are slapping with the DOOM name vs how many people would go to see a true DOOM movie with the mars setting and the demons from hell and the and the space marines and stuff (if the first number is greater, simple hollywood economics dictates that the first film is what will be made)
The demons were always just an annoying obstacle. You had to find the red key, open the red door, then find the blue key, open the blue door, then hit the switch. Sometimes there was even a yellow key, and they weren't even always in that order! Not to mention the secret areas filled with ammo.
If the trailer had told me what the film was about, I wouldn't have enjoyed the film half as much! Unfortunately, films like this have to spread through word-of-mouth, because informative trailers would destroy it. You have to just hear enough friends say "No, no, watch it, it's awesome!" and then watch it against your better judgement to appreciate it.
Maybe the trailers could have got away with showing some of the antics of the Space Monkeys, but even that would spoil it a little.
Satanists are people just like Catholics, only they like to wear their crosses the other way around.
I, being atheist, respect ones as much as I respect the others.
Following your line of reasoning, I believe you are talking about your enemies deserving shooting.
If you are, as you seem, a christian from the US, you forgot to mention other people worth shooting: vietcong, communists, arabs (all kinds), french.
If you were not talking about enemies deserving shooting, but about mass murderers who kill your people deserving shooting, you would have various options, if you were jew, nazis, if you were palestinian, israelis, if you were chinese, japs, is you were japanese/iraqi/afghan/vietanmese/colombian/*, people like you.
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On a side note, movies that are based around natural disasters, serious sporting events, or have an animal as the lead character usually suck too.
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OMG there was actually a book on this?
chapter1: human zaps chick.
chapter2: bug bites human arm off
chapter3: big bug step on 20 human
If they wanted PG13 movie, why don't they make stuff like Finding Nemo, Toy Story, or other family oriented stuff?
What's wrong with Hollywood? That's like watering down Whiskey enough (to meet regulations) just so they can sell it to EVERYONE's kids.
Doesn't please the fans of whiskey. And still won't please responsible parents.
What's Hollywood up to? Trying to get kids exposed to "whiskey" at a young age? Develop a taste of it?
If it worked for the Super Mario Bros. franchise it'll work for DOOM, that movie was FANTASTIC!
What?
Oh.
What about Street Figh-..oh. Really?
Hmm.
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I remember this movies, I think it was called Swamp Thing.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.