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Nvidia Partners with Sony on PS3 GPU
Anonymous Coward writes "Just a rumour last year, but it looks like Sony and Nvidia will be partnering for the PS3. Sony will be doing the manufacturing in one of their Nagasaki plants." From the article: "The move signals a shifting of allegiances for NVIDIA, who developed the graphics hardware at the heart of the original Microsoft Xbox, only for the Redmond-based platform holder to turn around and partner with fierce rivals ATI for 'future Xbox products' last August."
Does this mean the PS3 is going to have supplier logos on it like the GameCube?
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- Which will ship first? PS3 or GT4?
Defending IP by destroying access to it? That makes sense, RIAA/MPAA. Go to the corner until you can play nice!
in a nice coincidence, less than 2 minutes after seeing this headline, my stock broker called and told me that the nVidia stock I bought last year was finally out of it's $9 dollar hole and almost back to breaking even. all we need now is for Nintendo to announce they're going with nVidia for their next console and maybe I'll have made some money in this stock market thing.
Well, I'm actually glad that Nvidia has found a new dance partner after the falling out with Microsoft with respect to the next Xbox. With both Nvidia and ATI now firmly in the console wars as competitors, I think gamers are in for some serious treats. I just hope that gameplay won't be lost in all of that eye-candy!
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It's IBM all around, with Microsoft and Nintendo going with ATI. Sony's going with NVidia, and probably some hacked together backwards compat solution which will make developing for the thing a bitch.
Interesting. Can't wait to see how this is gonna go...
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Playstation 3, Nforce4, Nforce5, SLI, Geforce 6xxx I want stock.
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Microsoft turned their back on nVidia because nVidia would not deal on Microsofts terms.
What makes nVidia so certain that Sony being easier to deal with then Microsoft?
And what makes Sony feel good about keeping the PS3 manufacuring costs down when Microsoft could not get a deal with Nvidia which would let the X-Box be cheaper to manufacture?
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ATi is really a much better fit for MS than nVidia. Working on the Xbox's graphics only set nVidia back, and from what I've heard, they had to fight with Microsoft nearly every step of the way. As nVidia favors OpenGL, it was quite a struggle for them to make the Xbox API more OpenGL-like, despite Microsoft's pressure. ATi, on the other hand, basically makes DirectX accelerators (witness their terrible OpenGL performance. Also, ATi and Microsoft's corporate cultures are much more similar. I doubt there will be nearly as much tension as nVidia had with MS.
This is so awesome! If I had nVidia stock I'd be ric...wait a minute.
XBOX2 (or XBOX Next): IBM CPU, ATi GPU
Future Nintendos: IBM CPU(?), ATi GPU
PS3: IBM/Sony CPU, Sony/nvidia GPU
Also keep in mind that this time, Microsoft is trying to get the first-mover advantage, something that the PS2 had and enjoyed quite a bit of success from.
This seems a bit unlikely given the approach Sony took with the PS1 and PS2, but there's a press release to back this up on nVidia's site.
Fuck stock, I want a job there.
It sounds like you have one of four issues.
1. You have defective card. It happens, if it's under warrenty try returning it for one that works properly. I had this issue when I bought my current GeForce 4200TI and it wouldn't run in at 2x AGP correctly. RMA'd it with NewEgg and got a new one that works wonderfully, even at 8x which my new Athlon64 MB runs it at.
2. Your Motherboard is crap and can't supply the card with the needed power. I had an old Gigabit Dual P3 board that caused with issue with an old SDR Geforce 1. That board finally died and I replaced it with a ABIT BX6R2 and everything ran great.
3. Your powersupply isn't powerful enough to deliver the needed power to everything in your computer. Are you running a manufactored Gateway or Dell? Does it have a 180W powersupply, and you added an extra HD, DVD Burner, and more powerful video card? This can and will cause problems.
4. You may have a corrupt driver or Windows installation. Try loading a new driver, and if that doesn't work see if reloading windows does.
Still have problems? I guess your just screwed then, either give up on computer gaming and switch brain dead setup consoles. Or maybe get an ATI and spank yourself to sleep with the box.
given the advaces in integration and the ownership of sony on their ps2 and ps1 design (no aditional cost), I suposse they will have backwards compatibility done in the same way.
quite different from what happens in xbox...
As much as I dislike Sony's hardware, its nice to see that they're finally going to utilize a proper GPU for once.
Also interesting is that it sounds like sony will be manufacturing the chip provided by nVidia. This differs from the MS/nVidia deal in which nVidia was selling physical chips to MS. Looks like Sony will be liscensing IP, as Microsoft is doing with Xbox2. This gives them a better chance to help keep manufacturing costs down.
The sour grapes between MS and nVidia actually stems from the fact that nVidia didn't want to give MS a price-break on their chips. Which, from what I heard, was because Xbox wasn't moving in the volumes the original deal was based on, and they eventually went to arbitration over the matter.
This completely debunks the myth that is this Slashdot article.
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Look at the date of the article in the link you provided, NEOtaku17. It was September 1, 2003.
Now look at this press release from nvidia
( http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_17342.html):
No real point to this, but...
1. You have defective card.
I suppose that's technically possible. But it doesn't act obviously defective, in that it runs just fine for the first hour or so, before randomly causing a BSOD. On reboot I get another hour or so. Doesn't sound like a defective board, besides the obvious crashes.
2. Your Motherboard is crap and can't supply the card with the needed power.
No, the motherboard is fine. It's an ASUS board for an AMD Athlon XP with an NForce chipset. I would hope the NForce chipset would work with an NVidia card... (And before you ask, no, there is no onboard video to conflict with.)
3. Your powersupply isn't powerful enough to deliver the needed power to everything in your computer.
It's a 400 watt power supply, which is insane overkill for this computer. Unless those NVidia supplies take for more power than I thought.
4. You may have a corrupt driver or Windows installation.
Latest drivers. I've kept the drivers up to date hoping that eventually the problem would be solved. No luck yet.
Have you contacted Sony about this yet? I think we can all agree that you're morally obliged to tell Sony about these problems so that they can have a good chance of success with the PS3.
I'm has happy as any cross-platform gamer should be that nVidia has a new (and thriving), console bedfellow, but I have to be honest: knowing that the PS3 will have the same type of technology that's in the guts of my OEM high-end gaming rig seems to water down the mystical hype machine. In an age where it's common to hack apart consoles and use them as you see fit, I always feel that knowing what's within is, in a way, violating the experience between the controller and the screen. What keeps me interested in technology is not the fact that I know every detail (including the limits) of what's inside, that's for the office. In the living room I want to give my noodle a break and let the game development magicians take hold of my imagination without comparing it to what's back in the office. I had new confidence in the fact that Sony was developing this all-mystical device with an equally seductive custom innards (Cell), and that there would be a period of a good 5 months after its release where I could revel in the magic of the device before knowing that your common high school tinkerer could download the latest bios hack for it and use it as a pr0n server. I think I'll cover my ears about PS3 until its release. :)
Your memory card is fuxored - corrupt blue screen - >the memory chips are failing. Been overclocking it have we or bought it second hand from Ebay?
If it's working until it get to a certain temperature you could try slapping some memory heat sinks on the chips or increasing ventilation in your pc, but usually corrupt memory means it's time to get another card...
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> examine gamecube
On the side, you find a sticker that says: "Powered by ATi"
I don't need a signature.
This happens how often on the X-Box? About never, I would say. You've got a shitty PC. Stop blaming nVidia.
BSOD is not the card's problem, it's your problem. You obviously have a hardware conflict somewhere. For it to be the card, you would probably get artifacts on the screen not a BSOD. I've never had a piece of hardware generate a BSOD, it's always something related to drivers or something set wrong in the BIOS.
I'm f#$king magic!
Brand new from a brandname NVidia reseller. Can't remember the name. (PNY?)
And I've run a memory check, let it go through several iterations. The memory is fine.
It's also not a heating issue - according to the on-board temp sensors, it always operates within the acceptable thermal range.
What I expect it is would be the drivers, because each new iteration makes it progressively worse. The 60.66 drivers (I think) actually caused massive graphical glitches that could only be solved by rolling back the drivers. As neat as the backwards Z-buffer was, it got annoying, fast.