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China Launches New Search Engine
stupidfoo writes "With all those nasty pro-democracy websites that Google keeps turning up, what's a communist country supposed to do? Well, create their own search engine of course! According to the AP, 'Bill Clinton on Monday helped launch a new Internet search company backed by the Chinese government which says its technology uses artificial intelligence to produce better results than Google Inc.' Accoona Corp. was one of the Chinese companies that donated an 'undisclosed amount' to the recently opened Clinton Library. Using the search engine from inside the US doesn't show any noticeable amount of censorship, but it also doesn't show how it's anywhere near the level of Google."
Kathy Feaganes Allen is the lady from Florida who ran down a couple of teenagers for letting their golf ball hit her SUV. Compelling story, something that I really want to know about.
No mention of it on Accoona at all, plenty on Google.
'Nuff said.
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Knee Pads
Intern Job Listings
Porn
Cigars
Directions to the Clinton Library and Massage Parlor in Little Rock
Rose Law Firm Records
Cattle Future Stock Quotes
How much of the difference in quality results has to do with the fact that Google has a huge head start in indexing the web? Maybe Acoona's results will improve over time?
We slashdotted China!
We bastards!
free tibet still gets plenty of hits....
even falun gong gets plenty of hits back.
Once I get off work im gonna have to anonymous proxy inside china and try it.
Guess he is just thanking the Chinese for all of those funds he rec'd, democracy be damned.
Que Pasa?
According to a Chinese government spokesperson, "Accoona is a more efficient search engine because while Google uses automated system applications to crawl the Internet and add to their databse, we have assigned 481.2 million Chinese citizens the task of manually surfing the Internet and cataloging every site by hand. They work faster and far cheaper than Google's automated software."
There you have it.
I'm a big tall mofo.
So that we know which one NOT to use?
Fly me to the moon Let me sing among those stars Let me see what spring is like On jupiter and mars
This isn't too surprising. Bill Clinton sold China our multi-stage missile technology for satellite launching. China is using this to build ICBMs to target the western United States. (And have since threatened to hit Los Angeles with a nuclear warhead if we ever interfere in regards to our ally Taiwan.) This was after he received numerous under the table donations for his campaign from the Chinese government and financiers. After he sold out our national security to the Chinese for some campaign donations, giving the Chinese a national search engine is no big deal.
I'm sorry, I just wanted to re-read that sentence in all its glory. And to pound my head on the desk every fourth or fifth word. I've discovered that the mental imagery starts to look more coherent if you soak the brain in at least three beers' worth of alcohol before applying the blunt force trauma.
On the bright side, if Fark ever holds a "Photoshop this Salvador Dali Masterpiece" contest, that sentence is gonna make me a surefire winner.
...claiming this is a dirty trick of Karl Rove?
Well, that explains why Bill Clinton is behind it. Slick Willy will do anything to advance the Republican agenda.
(Psst, that was me being sarcastic.)
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
Maybe there is something to this.
A search for tiananmen square on Accoona reveals mostly "Travel China" sites, although it does show the National Association for Democracy page as the 11th hit.
A search for tiananmen square on Google finds sites like "student protests", "history declassified" and the wikipedia page.
Hmmm, maybe there is something to this conspiracy theory.
Just for fun, I decided to search on flaws of communism, just before Accoona got slashdotted. Very few, if any, of the search results mentioned "flaws" in the title or summary, and the third or fourth result was actually a communist party homepage. Google, on the other hand, produces relevant documents right off the bat, in America, at least. (Sorry for the imprecision, I closed the window before deciding to post this, and couldn't get in to research.)
Japan is west of Seattle.
Perhaps you weren't aware of the fact that everywhere is west of somewhere.
"Rocky Rococo, at your cervix!"
You search for democracy,
and engine finds you.
The Chinese apparently want a site with "no worries"
(Yes, I know, it's spelled wrong. I don't care)
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Chinese government which says its technology uses artificial intelligence to produce better results than Google
Perhaps they focused so much on "better than Google" that they forget to load-test it? AI software is not known for speed. Right now it is probably thinking:
"Hmmmm. 8000% more requests than I can handle? Should I lock up? Just process the first one? Let's check the rules database. Wup, that's flooded also. This flow-chart from Bob may offer a clue. It has heuristics prepared by somebody in a similar situation. Okay, it says, "call Mom". Okay.....what? I have no Mom? Hmmmm. Now why don't I have a Mom? Let's go research that....."
Table-ized A.I.
The Chinese government was one of SEVERAL large investors. Not the only investor as the submittor tried to frame it. This search engine isn't some sort of special anti-democracy device whose sole purpose is to oppress the Chinese people. If you think Clinton was anti-democratic then you must be posting from Cananda right now considering the current administrations policies.
If we are going to start bashing everyone who has anything to do with making or receiving money from the Chinese government then there are going to be a hell of a lot of Neocon's on the list as well.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
This should signal google to immediately remove all of it censorship in China. They tried to do some minimal censorship but if that wasn't enough, why not just drop out entirely and put up a non-offensive message letting the chinese people know what they're missing. If that gets blocked too, so be it. I've talked to a few students from China in the US and they say that the public apathy over censorship is downright frightening. If your content is being censored, put up a message and withhold it all. Nothing they can do about that.
First search result for 'linux' is microsoft.com
http://accoona.com/search?col=mc&qt=linux
This is not true.
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
Accoona shows a lot of tourist-related information on Tibet and pro-Chinese links on Tibet, that considers Tibet as any another region inside China.
Google, in the other hand, shows a lot of pages related to the movement to free Tibet from Chinese domination. Note the link to the Tibetan Government in Exile's website, which ranked #3 in Google. Also, note that the #3 match in Accoona (under "sponsored links"), shows the Chinese government's page on Tibet.
Isn't this undeniable proof that Accoona's filtering works?
This isn't too surprising. Bill Clinton sold China our multi-stage missile technology for satellite launching. China is using this to build ICBMs to target the western United States.
The claim is perhaps debatable, but after all the accusations about it (I too remember all the hubbub about it years ago), Clinton would have been wise to stear clear of any business dealings related to the Chinese government. It does not "look good". It would be like doing business with Monica's family. Let it be, Bill.
Table-ized A.I.
Do a search for "linux" on google and on accoona.
Other searches provided just as useless results.
Linux on google:
www.linux.org/
www.linux.com/
www.redhat.com/
www.kernel.org/
www.debian.org/
www.linuxjourn
www.linux-mandrake.com/
www.linux-laptop
www.linuxtoday.com/
www.gentoo.org/
Linux on accoona:
http://software-linux.jovencitas-cachondas.org/
http://software-for-linux.jovencitas-cachondas.o
http://programas-para-linux.jovencitas-cachond
http://linux-software.jovencitas-cachondas.o
http://programas-en-linux.jovencitas-cachonda
http://linux.ittoolbox.com/
http://ie.mojolin
http://zh.mojolin.com/
http://uk.mojolin.c
http://au.mojolin.com/
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
China's ICBMs
Have you ever been to a turkish prison?
We've got to be friends with them, or we'll be enemies. Clinton knows that the Right in the US would love to demonize China, especially once we run out of middle eastern countries again. So he pre-empts that by publicly cooperating with them. So what if they've violated international human rights agreements? If we hate them for that we'd better stop turning our eyes from our own self-abuse. All large organizations prey on the populace, governments included, the US government included. Clinton is as sharp as he always was. He knows, as you should, that the general policies of a large country are dictated not only by necessity but by ugly politics. If he goes over there and makes nice, just like Bush Sr. did, then we can talk with them about their politics. If it becomes a cold war, then each side will treat the other as faceless, and their political machinery will be out-of-bounds. So let him go over there and talk. Let him say we like China. We do like China; they'd be a good friend, and they treat their citizens about as well as we treat ours. The treatment is different, but the indifference and disrespect is the same.
Playing pornographics games during the day is evil! Play at night!
I'm no communist, but I hate seeing the debate muddied like this. Just to be clear, communism shouldn't be conflated with totalitarianism, just as capitalism shouldn't be conflated with liberty. China demonstrates that well; for most of the past half-century it was basically communist and totalitarian; now it is rapidly moving towards capitalism, but the totalitarianism shows few signs of abating, unfortunately.
You're a suburbanite.
Search for linux and get microsoft.com as the first result.
Feeling Lucky?
So, now China will have the Fox News of search engines.
Both extremes meet in the middle and do the same..
Here are the first four Accoona searches I did:
MSN
SLATE
AOL
BAY AREA RIDERS FORUM (this is a very popular bay area-centric motorcycle forum that I regularly visit)
Compare and contrast this with the results I received from Google:
MSN
SLATE
AOL
BAY AREA RIDERS FORUM
Very, very different. After searching with these very common, popular queries, I've come to the conclusion that this new Accoona search engine isn't worth it's weight in salt. Really, it's a great testimony to how good Google really is.
Of lesser importance, the time it takes to obtain said search results is significantly longer than for Google.
I looked up destroy china....
The first link was to a spyware cleaner.
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--Santa Claus
In Korea, only old people use nuclear power.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." -- Hanlon's Razor
I typed in '"human rights" china'. The first result was "Human Rights on Ebay". Apparantly, Ebay sells everything including Human Rights. Perhaps China could get a good deal on it!