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War of the Worlds, Chocolate Factory Trailers
rocketjam writes "The trailer for Tim Burton's version of 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' is online at Yahoo. The movie stars Johnny Depp and scheduled for release in July of '05. I think Tim Burton is the perfect director for a new Willie Wonka movie. The trailer looks very Burtonesque." And reader daquake writes "Our first peek at Steven Spielberg's contemporary version of War of the Worlds is available from Apple. Spielberg's installment is just one of many that have been developed throughout the years including a film produced last year n England."
That has to be the number 1 druggy movie ever.
Wow, that's one scary Willy Wonka. I can almost see him saying:
"Hello, Charlie.."
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The original was nothing like the book, it was dark and gloomy.
i think burton w/ depp will combine to make an kick ass flick the way the book intended it to be. i hope burton redoes alice in wonderland, THAT would be a trippy movie
It would be amusing if the War of the Worlds TV trailer (which is refusing to play on my machine), was engineered to look like a news broadcast, and managed to cause panic like the radio series.
*Yawn*
Evil, vaguely Arabic aliens invade. Only the square jawed hero (played by the guy from that movie that was vaguely popular last year), the love interest (with that woman from the movie your girlfriend watched) and the wisecracking black sidekick (fuck knows, they all look the same to me) can defeat them. 2 hours of bland Hollywood shite. This is the sight of a culture so bereft of originality that plagiarism is hailed as a creative force.
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All they seem to do now is remake movies that don't need to be remade. The original Willy Wonka was a perfectly excellent film and I see no need to ruin it with a remake. Same with War of the Worlds.
Whatever happened to original scripts?
And it was pure, unmitigated crap. What's wrong with steampunk Victorians fighting off a Martian invasion? It's not like Hollywood has any regard for science anyway.
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Its nice to see that there is no creativity left in the movie industry. Why not come up with something new instead of redoing movies that there perfectly good to begin with.
that means:
Willy wonka....
War of the worlds...
Oceans 11..
Manchurian candidate.
Star Wars special editions.
While we are at it might as well remake casablanca.
And teen wolf.
Are the aliens going to be led by Xenu?
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IMHO, this is a movie that will make full use of Burton's talents. Willy Wonka is a deeply eccentric character, and Burton is known for his well... "Burtonesque" way of doing things. Burton will really bring out the weirdness of Wonka. Although the book and even the previous movie (where Gene Wilder did a GREAT job) have alluded to it, I think Burton will really bring out how weird and eccentric and mysterious Wonka really is.
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While I think Burton will do a decent job with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, I really don't think it stands a chance of beating the 1971 version with Gene Wilder. There's a certain magic to it that I don't think can be replicated so easily into a polished Hollywood flick, no matter who's directing.
War of the Worlds, so far, looks like one worth checking out.
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The idea of having Tim Burton direct this remake seems like a masterstroke, but after seeing the preview, Depp seems so wrong for the part. I'm sure he'll bring his flare, and he's an amazing actor--but there's something about the way he was holding himself that seemed distinctly non-wonka. I for one *liked* the fact that the original movie was so much darker than the book, so I hope that this one stays dark in vibrant Burton-esque way.
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Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
Canadian comic Sean Cullen does a great bit on this guy. http://www.seancullen.com/
The formula is:
* "In a world..."
* followed by some sort of contradiction
* "one man..."
* is doing some generic action
They run the bit on those "Just for Laughs" shows on CBC every so often.
No matter how flipped-ouyt this version looks, can you imagine one with Manson in it? That would have rocked. :)
Does anyone remember Planet of the Apes? The original is a classic, and Burton's remake was one of the most memorable stinkers in recent movie history. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a classic film, even if it doesn't hew very closely to the book, and I fear that a Burton remake will be Planet of the Apes all over again. Please, Tim Burton, leave my childhood alone.
If you were a hot dog, and you were starving, would you eat yourself?
I can't help but wonder if anyone will ever use the second book (Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator), and make a sequel. Yes, it wasn't as good as the first, but that's prose for you.
Mercy was given to me by Christ...I must give the same to others.
Does anyone else look at Depp and think, "Oh God, that's Michael Jackson!"
Brings an extra level of creepiness, donchathink?
Actually I am a lab rat in an elaborate plot to take over the world.
I'd just like to know if Burton is going to use Pygmies like there were in the book?
So, I think it would be well advised for those of you looking to this movie in the hopes (or the fears) that it will be an updated Willy Wonka to attempt to forget about Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and instead view this movie as the screen adaptation of the book 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory'.
In fact, if I remember correctly, Roald Dahl was not happy with 'Willy Wonka', which I can understand since the book is incredibly darker than the movie.
Hopefully, with Burton directing, we can get a more faithful interpretation of the book that stays true to the dark material.
From the trailer:
"No one would have believed in the early years of the twenty-first century that our world was being watched be intelligences greater than our own, that as men busied themselves about their various concerns, they observed and studied. With infinite complacency, men went to and fro about the globe, confident of their empire over this world. Yet, across the gulf of space, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic regarded our planet with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us."
And from the book:
No one would have believed in the last years of the nineteenth century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied [...]. With infinite complacency men went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter. [...] Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.
I think that's pretty cool.
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These aren't the droids you're looking for.
The alien hand on the War of the Worlds poster has its middle finger on top of Texas.
Not that it necessarily means anything...
What's wrong with steampunk Victorians fighting off a Martian invasion?
You'll get them. There are two War of the Worlds movies coming out. The other one from Pendragon Pictures will be set in the original book's setting.
I know what I'll be doing this weekend: retooling and reorganizing my War of the Worlds website. Interesting that this Spielburg version is depicting the alien hand holding the Earth in a manner very reminiscent of the 1988-1989 season of the TV series.
I just wish I had a complete working copy of the old waroftheworlds.com Radio Classics website, especially their story, "The Last Chat Room". Lost my copy to hard drive corruption. Random two-byte errors in the image files. Anyone who can help, drop me a line at my site, either having an archived version or can repair damaged GIF and/or JPEG files. (The Way-Back Machine sadly doesn't have a copy.)
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
Direct link to the fullscreen CatCF trailer
Why is anything anything?
Are you kidding? We're at freaking war in Iraq, soldiers are taking the SoD to task for the shit they have to ride into battle in, and most people are completely oblivious to the knucklehead who got us into this fine mess.
Three years ago we witnessed something astounding, two jets colliding with the WTC towers and one with the Pentagon and, victims families aside, most americans are right back on track to worrying about which color iPod to get and whether they'll have enough beer in the cooler for the bowl games.
I'm not saying we're stupid or anything, but we're remarkably resilient in bouncing back into our own little bubbles after a catastrophe, so long as it didn't directly touch us. Aliens could be all over the place and we'd just want to get through it so we can rebuild our civilisation and see how Survivor Vanuatu comes out.
Meanwhile, in news that will ruin my life for the next 3 days or so:
Pixar has pushed back their last feature, while paired with a certain evil empire, Cars until May 2006 (insert riot here) which had been due Nov 2005. This is so they can sell more DVDs for your holiday shopping pleasure later in 2006 (the fucked up logic escapes me, but Dreamworks is doing the same shit with Shrek 3, moving it back to May 2007)
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Yes, the book was about Virtue. Willie Wonka was looking for someone Good, displaying:
He found all of those things in Charlie. I always thought Wonka somehow knew Charlie would find the last ticket, and in fact the whole thing was a setup to test Charlie.
sigs, as if you care.
Don't go watch the fucking movie.
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You need to watch the trailer for Jerry Seinfeld's comedian movie right now.
Even Jesus hates listening to Creed.
Is here.
War of the Worlds is an interesting example of the way derivative art works.
It's not that much of a story: aliens attack, humans flee/fight/cower, aliens die of a cold.
But it keeps getting remade. Why?
I think it's mostly because of the way Orson Welles planted the meme in our consciousness. At the time, it was plausible to people that Mars was inhabited and even hostile, and of course the presentation believed the central conceit perfectly. Meanwhile the particular pitfalls of asynchronous simplex communication (people turning the radio on after the disclaimer; people appending their own interpretations and extrapolations when explaining what others entering the room are discovering) did nothing to reduce its credibility.
So while the story isn't all that fascinating, the legend is, and derivative art capitalizes on the legend. Titanic is the single most expensive and profitable example, but I'd bet the budgets of the many remakes of War of the Worlds would be even more than what's been spent on the Titanic story.
- Honesty: he built what is essentially a giant mousetrap for children, and rigged his own lottery.
- Patience: instead of actually doing something to pass on his empire (such as, I don't know, raising kids), he wants to pluck a ready-made perfect heir from the masses.
- Humility: you're kidding, right ? He styles himself so far above humanity (literally, too), that he might as well be Apollo. Or Narcissus.
- Kindness: here, have some blueberry candy, kids ! Mwa ha ha ha ! j00 d34d f00 !
- Charity: see "Patience". He has studied humanity thoroughly; he knows to expect the worst.
- Generosity: can we say, "financial empire", "media blitz", and "addiction-fostering ad campaign" ?
- Flexibility: he is certainly whimsical, but Willie Wonka's methods are set in stone for all eternity. Feed chocolate to kids until they explode; if it was good enough 100 years ago, it's good enough now.
And that's just what can be gleaned from his relations to other humans ! I am not even talking about his enslavement of an entire alien race.I hardly think that Wonka is looking for someone "Good". He is looking for someone Gullible enough to take the fall when the SEC probe arrives.
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Sounds like what we really need is a War of the Worlds Musical!
Is this the real life
,nothing really matters to me
Is this just fantasy
A.D. 2101, War was beginning
Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see
Martians, yeilding no sympathy
Because I'm easy come,easy go,
Fly Zig high, fly Zig low,
Anyway the Zig goes,doesn't really matter to me, to me
Mama, just watched TV,
Ignored what prophets said,
Now martians coming and we're dead,
Mama, life had just begun,
But now we've gone and thrown it all away
Mama ooo, didn't mean to make you cry
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow
Carry on,carry on,as if nothing really matters
Too late, we're on our way,
To destruction, Cats say,
Told to make our time today,
Goodbye everybody, I got to go
Gotta leave you all behind and move a Zig
Mama ooo- (any way the wind blow)
I don't know how to fly,
I sometimes wish I'd never been born at all
I see a little silhouetto of a man
Is the curate!, Is the curate, dragged by a tentacle
Laserbolt and heatrays very very frightening me
All your base, All your base
All your base, All your base
All your base are belong to us!
But I just a poor boy and nobody loves me
He just a poor boy from a poor planetoid
Spare him his life from this monstrosity
Easy come easy go, will you let me go
Take off every Zig! For great justice!
Take off every Zig! For great justice!
Take off every Zig! For great justice!
For great justice! For great justice!
Move, move, move move, move, move Zig!
Mama mia,mama mia,mama mia let me move
Someone set up us the bomb!
So you think you can stone me and spit in my eye
So you think you can love me and leave me to die
Oh baby, I know what I doing baby!
Just gotta get out-just gotta move Zig right outta here
Nothing really matters, anyone can see
Nothing really matters
Any way the Zig goes....
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Ok so I wonder if this will be the case in the new movie as well. I never did like Granpa Joe for the following reason... HE WAS A TOTAL LEECH! Don't believe me? Think about this:
1) He's laid up in bed for 10 years, not able to work, living off of Charlie's Mom's generosity. She has to take in laundry and all sorts of odd jobs in order to support the hanger's on in the house.
2) Charlie spends his newspaper money to buy Grandpa Joe tobacco. So not only is Grandpa Joe leeching off of Charlie's mom to buy his food and put a roof over his head, not to mention wash his ass, but he's got a 10 year old buying him pipe tobacco. Which is sure to throw him in the hospital at some point, and who will pay the hospital bills? Maybe Charlie can get a 4th paper route.
3) So Charlie finds some money, and his mom, just trying to instill some values into her son asks him where he got it. What does G. Joe say??? "WHO CARES WHERE HE GOT IT, ITS HIS NOW!" (Yes I am paraphrasing.) Whats the lesson? It doesnt matter where you get something, if its in your greedy f'in palms, it's your's now.
4) Then Charlie gets a golden ticket. Hooray. Grandpa Joe smells a free trip coming, and what do you know. Not ONLY can he walk, but he can dance like a madman! So much for 10 years in bed, not even collecting disability insurance.
5) He breaks the rules, and drinks the gassy stuff. He and Charlie mess shtuff up, and don't feel badly in the least.
6) When he gets called on it, he's all pissed that he got caught, and totally turns it around on Willie Wonka. He says "Screw this rule follower Charlie, lets go sell that gobstopper that you PROMISED to keep to yourself. Willie's only fault here is that he gives in. I think its out of desperation, since all the other kids are gone and apparently he has cancer of the spleen or something.
So to sum up, Grandpa Joe Sucks. The movie is good though.
But am I the only one who got a little Cat in the Hat vibe from the trailer?
You know, they'll feel the need to pep it up for today's hip, wired youngsters. You know, "I feel we should rastafy him by ... ten percent or so." Then throw in a bunch of pop-cultural references and jokes for the 'grown-ups' and presto! sucky movie.
But as a movie? Can adults really stomach all the moralizing? Wait, time for a song about watching too much television! And here's one about chewing bubble gum! If Depp's version is going to cut back on that, and get back into the darker sequences like the boat ride, then I'd be all for it.
By the way, I think the poster looks too Clockwork Orange for me.
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Ok, so now we add WOTW to the list:
LOTR
FOTR
ROTK
ROTJ
WOTW
The movie acronym namespace is getting overcrowded! I predict that soon movies will start being made with FIVE words in the title, maybe by throwing an adjective or expletive into the mix. War of the Doggone Worlds.
You drank my drink, you drunk!
What's the big f-ing deal about Tim Burton? The guy has NEVER directed a good movie.
You're on crack...
Batman
Batman 2
Sleepy Hollow
Nightmare Before Christmas
Ed Wood
Tim Burton gives us something different with every new movie. You may not like his style, but at least the guy comes up with original ideas...a wonderful break from Spielburg, Michael Bay, etc. It should say something that Johnny Depp signs on so often.
Tom Cruise isn't technically a midget.
Just looking at the trailer, Depp is -way- to young to play Wonka. The whole point of the story is Wonka is getting on in years and is looking for an honest young person to help take over. Gene Wilder was the only redeeming feature of the first C&tCF...