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Homebrew Digital Picture Frame w/Remote

feagle814 writes "I've always wanted to create one of those digital picture frames out of an old laptop, and on the heels of a recent slashdot story, I've written up my Digital Picture Frame project. What's unique about this particular incarnation of the digital picture frame is that mine includes a homebrew remote control recognizer made out of a programmable IC, the Microchip PIC16F628. The article discusses everything from design considerations to custom slideshow software, all the way to final presentation, with lots of photos along the way."

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  1. Really narrow viewing angle? by Zorilla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've heard of projects like these before, but isn't there the huge problem of only being able to view the picture from directly ahead, seeing as it's usually a passive matrix screen? It seems like it defeats the purpose of having one as a background decoration.

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    1. Re:Really narrow viewing angle? by murgee · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's not too hard to find an active-matrix screen on a P200-vintage laptop, actually - by the time they came out it seems a lot of people were realizing that the old passive matrix screens just weren't worth the trouble. The only laptops I've seen with the old passive-matrix screens on 'em in that vintage were the real low-end consumer units (Compaqs, actually) - everything else I've worked on that's that old has had an active-matrix screen, but I pretty much only see Dells. I'd worry more about getting a laptop with a 256-color only video card in it.

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    2. Re:Really narrow viewing angle? by lucason · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So let me get this straight!

      You bought a $700 system which runs linux on a P166. You got ripped off dude.

      I bought a Toshiba-Libretto for $50. Silent as a whisper.

      I'll have to shell out some dough for a wooden frame, but I'm pretty sure it will be under $600. LOL

  2. Analog by Icarus1919 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Digital is cool and all, but when I was in boy scouts we built an analog picture frame. Man, you should see the technical specs on it, amazing.

    1. Re:Analog by ikea5 · · Score: 4, Funny
      some more details on this, please?! thanks!

      The boy scout or the frame?

    2. Re:Analog by mdamaged · · Score: 5, Informative
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  3. It's a trick! by anamexis · · Score: 5, Funny

    Watch out!
    " I'd seen do-it-yourself picture frames on Slashdot before,"

    He's trying to trick us into Slashdotting Slashdot through a link back!

  4. IR control by RedWizzard · · Score: 3, Interesting
    What's unique about this particular incarnation of the digital picture frame is that mine includes a homebrew remote control recognizer made out of a programmable IC, the Microchip PIC16F628.
    Perhaps it's unique because it's unnecessarily complex? I'm using LIRC under Linux on my home theatre PC for remote control with a homebrew receiver that connects to a serial port. The reciever is very simple (see circuit diagram on this page). I guess if you're determined to use Windows you might need to build this sort of PIC-based solution, but surely the LIRC based solution is cheaper and easier? No wonder his "Linux loving friends" gave him a lot of flak for going with Win 98.
    1. Re:IR control by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 4, Informative
      Heard of WinLIRC?

      So yes, the IR receiver wasn't really necessary (maybe he did it for the learning experience though, or maybe he can use the code for something else).

      But Win98, WTF? This is probably the first picture frame that has to be rebooted daily.

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    2. Re:IR control by feagle814 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well the reason I went with my PIC-based IR receiver was that I had already built it several months ago, when I did not find any of the remote control solutions suitable for my purposes. When I created it back then, I re-used a custom scripting engine that I had made. All I did this time around was solder together a second IR/PIC combo unit (which took me a half hour) and I had a working remote receiver. Granted, I had to tweak the code to move from a least-squares recognition algorithm to a pulse-tolerance algorithm to improve reception, but that was really more fun than anything.

      I'm actually really sad that I couldn't use Linux for it, because I had the time constraint of having to give it to my sister for Christmas, and that was not enough time for me to learn everything I'd need to do the equivalent in Linux.

  5. Why not? by CodeYoddler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not just take a portable dvd player (7" for $129) and put a DVD into it filled with all your favorite pictures, then it'll display them. Then you just mount the thing in a frame.

    1. Re:Why not? by Bill_Royle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yet if it's ready-made and mass-produced, does a problem really exist, and is there really a struggle involved?

    2. Re:Why not? by Snard · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Why not just take a portable dvd player (7" for $129) and put a DVD into it filled with all your favorite pictures, then it'll display them. Then you just mount the thing in a frame.

      Have you tried this? (I did.) The picture quality on the low-end 7" DVD players is crap. Even an 800x600 LCD screen would look wonderful compared to one of the cheap DVD player screens.

      IMHO.
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  6. From the article about batteries. by Saven+Marek · · Score: 4, Informative


    The final battery connection
    Of course, we all know that messing with Lithium-Ion batteries is just asking for a chemical acid explosion.


    This is actually urban myth. Only old first style lithium batteries from earlier in the 1980s would explode or be capable of igniting on touch with the atmosphere.

    Lithium Ion are exactly that, the Lithium are stored as IONS in the solution and are not reactive.

    1. Re:From the article about batteries. by YggdrasilOS · · Score: 5, Informative

      I think you have your terms confused:

      Isotopes are stable atom configurations which have an electically neutral charge, differing only in the number of neutrons.

      Ions, on the gripping hand, are chemically excited atoms which have gained or lost valence electrons (according to their electronegativity) and become reactive.

      This is, in fact, what makes Li+ ions useful for battery cells in the first place. Whether alkaline, NiCad , NiMH, or LiIon, chemical batteries all work on the principle that the sustained chemical reaction will produce a useful amount of electricity.

      When we "recharge" our batteries, we simply apply current to the battery in such a way as to reverse the chemical reaction.

      What they've done is introduced stabilizers to retard the rate of reaction, so that rather than exploding upon atmospheric exposure, the battery solution simply gets warm.

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    2. Re:From the article about batteries. by Anubis350 · · Score: 2

      on the gripping hand

      ahhh, another nivenite

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  7. The easy, or hard way? by zippity8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The funny thing is that I've been meaning to do a project just like this.

    Except, unless you're looking for a reason to make your life more difficult, Windows IR software is abundant. Hardware is even cheaper, and not very complex. I remember using Girder (back then it was free, there might still be some sites around that offer the older version), and this captures IR codes from a COM port, and feeds specific keystrokes to a program of choice. MUCH easier than the route that the submitter mentioned.

    Look up the LIRC project (in the FAQ somewhere) for schematics on a IR receiver if you really want to put the work in, or you can even buy some pre-made receivers. I bought one for $5 including a remote a few years back.

    To get this running under Linux is easy enough, and well documented throughout the web. But to get it under windows can be just as easy.

    Basically, to get this going under Windows (as the submitter chose, for some reason), you need to just load Windows XP and use the preloaded My Pictures screensaver (or some other alternative, I'm sure that they are abundant). Take an extra 10 minutes to mount a frame on a LCD (removed from the cover), and then set the screensaver to kick in 1 minute after booting (no password, not that it really matters). And you're done, ready to enjoy the rest of your christmas break with family or friends.

  8. Perhaps these aren't a good idea by nsuccorso · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Folks, I realize that digital picture frames are "cool", but may I please present another perspective?

    Until we figure out a way of generating clean, renewable power, perhaps this isn't the time to be coming up with more and more ways of consuming power for trivial applications, such as digital picture frames and blowup lighted Christmas figures that run an electric blower motor all night(!) Just consider it, please.

    It's just as interesting to come up with ways of reducing household power consumption.

    1. Re:Perhaps these aren't a good idea by MobyDisk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is why digital ink systems are going to be very important in the future. They only use power when the image changes.

  9. FPGA + Flash + Video Driver IC? by xtal · · Score: 2, Informative

    This isn't a bad idea, but I was hoping he was using the PIC to drive the panel directly. It'll cost a few bucks to keep this picture frame running.

    I've driven VGA monitors from a FPGA before, but never a LCD panel directly - they're typically nightmares to work with. It strikes me that a digital picture frame might be a great project for someone to work on, and a practical application for some of the stuff over at OpenCores.

    A low-end Spartan FPGA would do the trick (or maybe even something more lowly than that). You'd need to implement a driver core for SVGA or a DVI interface, a interface to a compactflash card, some glue logic for that, and not much else. And a PCB to hold it together.

    Unfortunately I'm much too busy to tackle something like this myself right now, but if anyone would like to try it, I could point them in the right direction to get started.

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  10. Only a 1 on the coolness scale by codepunk · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. Modification For Direct Power +2
    2. IR Controller made with a PIC +8
    3. Powered By Windows -9

    Total 1 Point on the coolnes factor

    Tech Note: 1 additional point could be gained
    farily easily with the addition of a blue led.

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    1. Re:Only a 1 on the coolness scale by Milkyman · · Score: 2, Informative

      +5 funny but there's really no elegance to this frame, he just ripped open the lcd clamped a frame to it and then flipped the laptop on its keyboard.

      this one is much nicer
      http://www.applefritter.com/hacks/duodigitalframe/

  11. He should have used a different PIC by chopper749 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the RF12F675 makes a nice transmitter.

  12. Awesome example - Low Tech by krudler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My crazy Uncle Tony built a dynamic picture frame. It was way cooler than these fancy lcd dealies you're hearing about these days. He printed out a bunch of pictures on one of those old sk00l dot matrix printers that used the paper sheets with the holes on the sides, that you had to rip off after it printed; you know what I'm talking about. Anyways, he printed a bunch of pictures on a long sheet. Then he put em in his dynamic picture frame, which allowed you to switch pictures using a crank that rolled the sheet picture to picture. It was totally cool.

    But I hear that in korea, only old people use low tech dynamic picture frames. Uncle Tony lived in South Jersey, and if you called him old, he'd fucking kill you by bludgening you with a baseball bat.
    Krudler

  13. Re:It's not scapping a laptop by grahamsz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well the laptop in question has a failed battery, no networking capabilities, and is maxed out with 8MB ram. They keyboard is flaky and i think the floppy drive has failed.

    A system of that spec is of limited use to anyone given that a desktop would be more useful and work better. However it's an ideal photoframe project since it has a 800x600 active-matrix lcd.

    I've donated odd computers to schools or needy friends, but if i'm going to have to support it i'd rather give away something good.

    I agree that it's no great hardware hack, but consider how difficult it is to interface with a mono lcd, i can't imagine investing that kind of effort for a digital picture frame.

  14. Re:We have clean power available by revscat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it wasn't for the idiot tree huggers who put a stop to nuclear power in the US, our air would be a lot cleaner right now.

    Yes, I'm sure the reason that nuclear power is because of "tree huggers", a group who has had little political power at its peak and none at all for the past decade or so. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that nuclear power takes away from the profits of the oil and coal industries, and that the GOP is deep in the pockets of same. No, that whole link between Saudi and the Bush family is just a bunch of propaganda dreamed up by Michael Moore, and he's a fatass.

    Bush is president. The Republicans control congress. You want to point the finger of blame somewhere point at those who have the power to change things but don't.

  15. Re:We have clean power available by dr.badass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If it wasn't for the idiot tree huggers who put a stop to nuclear power in the US, our air would be a lot cleaner right now.

    It would help, though, if the energy industry wasn't composed mostly of stubborn fossil fuel conglomerates that own the wells, the pipelines, the refineries, the plants, and everything, all supported by heavy government subsidies and a finger in every bureaucratic pie. Oh, and if it didn't cost so much to build and maintain a nuclear plant.

    Environmentalists (not all of whom can be described as "idiot tree huggers") may make a lot of noise, but the biggest reason nuclear power isn't huge here is the money. It just doesn't make financial sense to fossil fuel-based energy companies to spend tons of money on a plant that makes their existing plants and infrastructure obsolete and has the effect of making their product, energy, cheaper.

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  16. Re:We have clean power available by revscat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You make accusations where there is no actual fact. How about we point some blame at Clinton for not proposing solutions for 8 years. Or even attempting to get Osama when he was offered on a plate (at least) twice.

    Hahahahaha you're response is "Blame Clinton hey let's change the subject and talk about Osama!" Oh man, you're a walking cliche, aren't you?

    Why do Republicans hate responsibility?

    BTW: Cute kids.