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2004 Indie Games of the Year

cyrus_zuo writes "For all those who think that the best games that came out this year were all sequels Game Tunnel presents a different angle on things with their 2004 Independent Game of the Year awards. For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2, check out the awards for a different side of gaming than you are used to."

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  1. Unneeded comment by Albert+Pussyjuice · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2, check out the awards for a different side of gaming than you are used to."
    cyrus_zuo, Save the comments on the article for the comments section please.
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    1. Re:Unneeded comment by Starji · · Score: 2, Informative

      That was quoted from the article.

    2. Re:Unneeded comment by saltydogdesign · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For all those who think that the best games that came out this year were all sequels...

      Strike this -- you can't know who this list is meant for.

      Game Tunnel presents a different angle...

      "Different angle" is a matter of opinion.

      on things with their 2004 Independent Game of the Year awards. For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2...

      Opinions have no place here.

      check out the awards for a different side of gaming than you are used to.

      How can the writer know what side of gaming I am used to?

      Finally, my edited introduction:

      Game Tunnel presents their 2004 Independent Game of the Year awards.

      Wouldn't Slashdot be so much better like that? Then we wouldn't have to skim the comments of some boob nitpicking the editors for trying to produce non-cardboard prose.
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    3. Re:Unneeded comment by sirket · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I played Halo 1 for years and could not have been more disappointed. There are so many flaws in Halo 2 they can not be listed in one post. That said-

      The boards blow. Zanzibar, Burial Mounds, Foundation, lockout, collosus, they all suck for one reason or another. Zanzibar and Burial mounds are always used for single flag CTF and assault and if the teams are _any_ good the game is always a tie.A myriad of comments can be made about the other boards as well.

      WHY THE FUCK DOES RED WIN IF THERE IS A TIE AND THEY SCORE ON THEIR SECOND ATTEMPT IN A CTF OR ASSAULT GAME???????? There is NO logic behind this! None whatsoever!

      The weapons- The sniper rifle is basically unstoppable now on a number of boards. If someone on ascension gets in the banshee and gets on top of the tower then they can't be killed because the other weapons are now so much weaker.

      You can not switch between Halo 1 and Halo 2. Believe me I try. Between the differences in the way the weapons operate (the rocket launcher for one), the fact that you have to drop weapons twice when dual wielding you almost can not switch between the games regularly without going mad. And the feel of the sniper rifle is so disgustingly different it makes me cry to use the new one.

      There are about a thousand other problems but they have been covered by so many people on bungie.net that it isn't worth repeating here.

      -sirket

    4. Re:Unneeded comment by Artifakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe the comment was needed, but why was it needed as part of this article? I happen to think a lot of people need to be reminded as the new year approaches to make that resolution to lose 20 pounds, and to stick to it this time. I'll just throw that thought out here. It's very much needed, so no one should moderate it offtopic, or flamebait either.

      True=!on topic

      The independant list should be judged on its opwn merits. I don't need someone telling me that I have to like this because it stands in oppposition to Halo 2. How would you have felt if the article said, "Ignore the independent list this year, it's obvious the creators were avoiding any game that would remind you of Halo 2".

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    5. Re:Unneeded comment by stupidfoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Halo 2 is a fucking joke online. Bungie has turned into a bunch of lame jackasses. The game has pulled in over $300,000,000 now and they can hardly be bothered to give us any updates on the tons of stuff that need to be fixed. All the cheats and exploits? Don't worry about it. New levels. Don't worry about it. Red team winning when it's a tie. Don't worry about it.

      Their latest posts:
      12/30 - "Halo vs Half Life Comparison"
      12/24 - "Gamespot Reader's Choice Awards"
      12/20 - "Getting Started With Halo 2"
      12/20 - "Humpday Challenge: Clan PMS "

      Great guys! Thanks a bunch. Now, what's being done about all the cheating online and all the other bugs? Oh, great, I get to read about Clan PMS!

      And don't get me started on the single player. What a crock. Barely any earth levels? Check. Playing as some other stupid character? Check. A fucking stupid ending? Check.

      And FFS, why does bungie.net have to suck so much in Firefox?

    6. Re:Unneeded comment by Rakarra · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Game Tunnel presents their 2004 Independent Game of the Year awards.

      Wouldn't Slashdot be so much better like that? Then we wouldn't have to skim the comments of some boob nitpicking the editors for trying to produce non-cardboard prose.

      But that's not what the introduction is supposed to be for on Slashdot. It's supposed to tittilate and engage the reader, leap out and shout "this is for you!" whether it really is or not. It's marketing.

    7. Re:Unneeded comment by nz17 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You know, we often hear the old hash of a joke about Slashdot readers not reading the linked articles. On one hand I can understand this, because they are often Slashdotted. However, just because they can't be read by a viewer does not mean that those said viewers should then make comments about the article site unseen.

      For example, Albert Pussyjuice (675113) here gripes about "For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2, check out the awards for a different side of gaming than you are used to," being a comment by cyrus_zuo. Well, Mr. PJ, if you were to even cursorily glimpse the actual article you would seen that this is a direct quotation from the first paragraph in the linked article. Amazing, isn't is, what an ass a minor convenience has made you to be!

      Then there is saltydogdesign (811417)'s comments in a sister post where he breaks down the initial paragraph of the article into pieces and lamblasts the author. Well let's read that paragraph in whole again:

      "For all those who think that the best games that came out this year were all sequels prepare to open your mind. For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2, you are about to see a different piece of gaming than you are used to."

      As one can see when he stops to obsorb the actual meaning of this paragraph, he can see that the author is addressing those whom believe the best games of this year were sequels such as _Halo 2_. saltydogdesign somehow takes this personally though he is obviously not the group that the opening paragraph is addressed to. The point of the linked Web site's author's writing of the column is to hopefully "wake up" those he considers "in the dark" about the other side of gaming, the small, independent studios' games rather than the large juggernaut publisher's games.

      Albert Pussyjuice, saltydogdesign, and others like them would be better off if they would not attack Slashdot for posting opinions in the article summaries when they themselves don't read the article. Often the articles summaries are either partially or in whole taken from the original article anyway.

      So I propose we all make a deal: when we as the Slashdot viewers start reading the featured sites' content before posting comments then we can complain about the admins duping and posting false stories and opinions because they did not RTFA themselves.

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    8. Re:Unneeded comment by InadequateCamel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Multiplayer fixes? The game has been out for about 45 days. Relax.

      As far as your commentary on the single player, I spent far too much time listening to other people about the abruptness of the ending, and found myself expecting the game to end for about 6 straight levels. I think that you are suffering from the same problem.

      Why does there NEED to be Earth levels? More specifically, why would that make or break the game? Just because you wanted the conflict to take place on Earth does not make the game bad. Why is playing as another well-developed, interesting character who functions in exactly the same manner as the Spartan, except with an AWESOME NINJA CLOAK capability with STEALTHY INSTANT KILL LASER NINJA SWORDS a bad thing? Why do you think that the ending of the game was bad? I believe that you went into this game with the expectation that it was going to be bad and were not going to be happy with anything else, and as far as I am concerned, you received the product that you deserve.

      I see the game as a minor improvement on the previously fantastic game, with the IMPROVEMENTS (emphasis important here) being in character depth, weapon choice, dual wielding, opponent variety and intelligence, and vehicle use/hijacking.

      If in 2 months the glitches have not been resolved then I will side with you in the multiplayer gripes. In the meantime, until you can explicitly explain to my why the single player campaign is not good I will have to chalk up your "Insightful" rating to typical fanboy bullshit.

      (Please pardon the tone of my post. Listening to lazy fellow Canadians explain why they do not have to help with the tsunami aid effort gets me quite agitated)

    9. Re:Unneeded comment by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >Wouldn't Slashdot be so much better like that?

      Are you kidding. A whole bunch of people come here for the OSS kiddie 'tude. Another interpretation of the post would be "Screw MS and its popular Xbox game!"

      Yeah it would be better, but it would lose readers and I doubt the editors have it in them to be even-handed about anything. They are simply advocates and dont want to change their roles.

      Like I wrote, there's an allure to going someplace where the editors have the same bias you do. Same with political blogs. Same with blogs about music. Same with what newspaper/media you chose to read.

      To slashdot's credit at least they fess up to their bias now and again, unlike Fox News or somesuch.

    10. Re:Unneeded comment by saltydogdesign · · Score: 2, Informative

      ut that's not what the introduction is supposed to be for on Slashdot. It's supposed to tittilate and engage the reader, leap out and shout "this is for you!" whether it really is or not. It's marketing. I know. I was being sarcastic.

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    11. Re:Unneeded comment by Minwee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, it's supposed to give you something to reply to without having to go to all the bother of reading the article.

      Didn't it work?

  2. Server dying by kschawel · · Score: 4, Informative

    The server is just crawling after just one comment.
    I think the mirrordot mirror will work better.

  3. Halo 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was great, more than I had hoped for.

    I can accept trolling in comments, but the fact that this article was accepted as is makes me cringe.

    1. Re:Halo 2 by sardiax · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I bought the game and played it through, and i enjoyed it. but to me it honestly seems very much more like expansion pack material than sequel material. a sequel to me atleast generally implies a new engine, or atleast some drastic changes. we've got some a few new graphics, maybe one new gun and one new vehicle, dual-wielding, hi-jacking vehicles, and a whole mess of re-used content on(what appears to me to be) the halo 1 engine. that sounds more like the feature list of most good expansion packs than most good sequels. hell Blizzard has released patches with more changes.

  4. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by sqrt(2) · · Score: 3, Informative

    I didn't see any ads.

    And it feels so good.

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  5. Independant by FiReaNGeL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If anything, it shows the power of marketing : these all appear to be good, original and fun games (except for the 3-4 rehashes of old games such as Marbles and Arkanoid), but I NEVER heard of them ANYWHERE. Which doesn't help me to buy them... which doesn't help the independant programmers of these gems... which doesn't help them to pay for marketing I guess. Vicious circle indeed.

    I managed to get to the end of the list before a complete Slashdot (happened while I downloaded a top10 game... BreakQuest. Irony?). GISH, the Tarball adventure game is first, and it deserve it. Fun, VERY original gameplay and VERY challenging. Free demo available too.

    1. Re:Independant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      GISH, the Tarball adventure game
      I play that one everyday, hmmm is it -xvzf or wait, was that -xvjf?
    2. Re:Independant by age+of+reason · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I never heard of any of these games before and that might even be the worst thing to say about them. A lot of games that come from one of the big players aren`t any good, but whenever they realease something decent it definately will find a quite big audience. But when it comes to those independent game developers there seems to be a high chance that even if they produce a really decent game nobody will ever hear about it. That said, if you enjoy turn-based strategy games, you should give Battle of Wesnoth a try - it`s free and open source: http://wesnoth.org/

    3. Re:Independant by stratjakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why doesnt the games section in slashdot cover this kind of stuff?

      All it discusses are Doom 3, Half Life 2, Halo 2, and the odd update to WineX that lets yet another big commercial Windows title run under linux.

      I guess I don't understand what motivates /. in general. They have a lot of eyes watching, but don't really use that to the general advantage of OSS.

      To me, new and good indie games, or hell - any good game I've never heard of is true "news for nerds". SCO v IBM is "news for IP lawyers".

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  6. My Favorite is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Return of Slashdot IV: Death of a Server

  7. What a crap choice by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 2, Funny

    For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2,

    It was obviously the $40m tech demo called Half Life 2

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  8. Halo 2 Rules by Agret · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Halo 2 had more hype than any other game there was no way it would live up to the hype so I just ignored all the hype. The game was brilliant, heaps better than the first one. There was almost vehicles in every level. There were a few too many ghosts but that was a good thing I got to hijack lots of people. It is playable online with a ping of 300 to a US server and it also has awesome LAN play. I don't see how that could let anyone down!

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  9. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by Draconix · · Score: 2, Funny

    Okay, I've come up with a solution to all of the hurdles this horrid article is making you jump. Step 1: Close your browser. Step 2: Shut off your computer if the temptation is too great. Step 3: Find something better to do.

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  10. get off it by mikeg22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For those who believe that the best game this year was that badly named expansion pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2...

    Oh for god's sake. Halo 2 had revamped graphics, sound, a completely new single player campaign and XBOX Live support. What is your definition of a sequel anyways?

    1. Re:get off it by VividU · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You must understand, Halo and Halo2 have acheived a sort of symbolic status here on Slashdot as the game offends both camps of "M$" hater:

      First, the Linuxites who can't stand the fact that the Xbox is both cool and a great success (reread early Xbox posts). You see, to them, Microsoft can't do anything right, and so therefore, those who think the Xbox is a good console and Halo a good game are "overhyped" or not true gamers. This despite the fact that both Halo and Halo2 have achieved Game of the Year awards.

      Second you have the Mac people. Halo was supposed to be their own. Bungie was their for them and them only. The very idea that MS bought Bungie and released Halo for the Xbox only..well..it's just too much to take.

    2. Re:get off it by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh, come on, let's be fair for a second: Halo & Halo 2 are very well done, fun games, but they're basically regular FPSs (granted; on consoles, where usually FPSs don't work that well). There're a ton of MUCH better games in the genre, for consoles and other platforms, notably the PC.

      The hype surrounding them is, IMHO, due to the fact that for a lot of "newbie" gamers is their first approach to a modern FPS, even when it's lacking on some areas. For newcomers is very easy to pick up, and stays fun because it's hard to master (much like Counter Strike). But let's not kid ourselves, they're not the holy grial of gaming.

    3. Re:get off it by Xzzy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > Halo & Halo 2 are very well done, fun games, but they're basically regular FPSs

      No, they are the pinnacle of refinement in the "old school" style of FPS. Gripes about the single player story are probably valid in a lot of cases, but the multiplayer feels just like playing Doom back in the day, except it's matured in the same way you'd expect aged wine to.

      Having been a gamer on both PC and consoles for almost 20 years now I'm not a "newbie" gamer in any sense of the word, and the implication that the only way to enjoy Halo is because it's "easy to pick up" is pure rubbish.

      The cautiously balanced weapons and solid feel of the environment is the state of the art, it takes all the classic elements of FPS that causes us to recall Doom or Marathon with fondness and sharpens them to a glistening point. Halo gave it to us on a LAN, Halo2 brought it online.

  11. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by JonLatane · · Score: 3, Funny

    I didn't see any ads either. Well, except for that "500 Internal" company. For some reason, a lot of the sites Slashdot links to have their ads. :P

  12. What's the exact definition of indy? by Nine+Tenths+of+The+W · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Self published? Made by a non public company? Made by part time developers? Published by a company with revenue of less than x per year? No advance/royalties only? Budget of less than y?

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    1. Re:What's the exact definition of indy? by ggambett · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We usually mean "self-funded", in essence. This more or less captures the "indie" spirit in that publishers don't control you or impose creative limitations, which is what most people complain about the retail industry.

      This definition is somewhat problematic, because you don't usually think of Id Software as an indie developer, although it is, according to this definition. For most indies the definition is accurate though.

    2. Re:What's the exact definition of indy? by ChipMonk · · Score: 2, Funny

      How about "no titles sold at Wal-Mart"?

    3. Re:What's the exact definition of indy? by ggambett · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think it's more of a financing thing, and exactly what you consider a publisher. Most of us small indies sell from our own sites but also from the big portals (Big Fish, MSN Game Zone, Yahoo, Real Arcade, Shockwave,...). Some indies consider that to be "selling out" (we don't).

      Other indies do the same as Id, finish their game and submit it to a publisher. I don't think you cease to be an indie because of that. If the publisher gets the game after it's finished, it doesn't finance its development, and has no creative input on it, you are independent from it in that sense.

      But I agree, it's quite probable that there's no universally agreeable definition of "indie".

    4. Re:What's the exact definition of indy? by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 2, Funny

      The irony is killing me.

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  13. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by Agret · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe it is divided accross 8 pages beacuse it makes the pages smaller. If you have one huge ass page your web browser might not load the images in order they appear on the page so it will load ones that you don't want loaded while you trying to view ones at the top. Hope that makes sense I think I phrased that horribly :) Happy new year guys!

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  14. GISH by mikeg22 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I agree, GISH is an excellent game, but its a sidescroller, not a traditional adventure game. I love both genres and hope they make a comeback, possibly with the help of these independent developers.

  15. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by Albert+Pussyjuice · · Score: 2, Funny

    No - they do it to increase ad views. Trust me - I know this to be a fact.

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  16. Meh by SilentChris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some of us like big-budget games made by major studios (*cough* World of Warcraft *cough*) because the artwork, sense of "success" and even gameplay is plain old better. Same reason why we flock to New Line's version of Lord of the Rings instead of watching the old hobbit cartoon -- it's just higher quality.

    1. Re:Meh by ggambett · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd say gameplay is different, not better per se. Indies usually target casual gamers, as opposed to hardcore gamers, so the gameplay must be different. A hardcore gamer can spend hours at a time playing a RPG with lots of text to read, but the stereotypical soccer mom just wants a quick 5 minute game. You can't expect a similar level of "commitment" from such different demographics.

    2. Re:Meh by Mornelithe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think you understand the definition of "soccer mom". It's not synonymous with "woman".

      Do you really mean that a "very large number of MMORPG players" are middle-aged, trendy, suburban mothers?

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    3. Re:Meh by Lisandro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's relative. If Gish were published by, say, Nintendo, gamers of the world and gaming magazines would be singing it's praises like there's no tomorrow.

      In fact, lately "big" publishers have been focusing in games with a lot of glitter but boring gameplay (90% of modern FPSs go there). Indie games may lack polish, but most (all?) of the games in that list are downright fun to play. That's what counts for me.

  17. craziness by Slothy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although sequels certainly abound, anyone who complains that the major publishers produce nothing original obviously never played Katamari Damacy. It's probably much more original than any of the indy games this year.

  18. Re:Sadly, website is down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Parent post has been mistakenly modded "informative."

    It might be informative - if it were true - but a quick Google search for the three game titles it references reveals that none of them actually exist.

    The page at mirrordot shows that the games actually referenced in the article have their own web sites. So if the games listed by "Sheetrock" really existed, Google should know about at least one of them.

    We can only speculate as to why "Sheetrock" would post this type of disinformation.

  19. Translation by age+of+reason · · Score: 3, Funny

    For all those who think that the best games
    that came out this year were all sequels Game
    Tunnel presents a different angle on things
    with their 2004 Independent Game of the Year
    awards. For those who believe that the best
    game this year was that badly named expansion
    pack that they have the nerve to call Halo 2,
    check out the awards for a different side of
    gaming than you are used to.


    Translation:

    Please visit my site, it is only 8 pages full of pictures and I think I can survive a slashdotting.

  20. Say what? by MXK · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Internal Server Error" ???
    I never heard of that game...

  21. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by SirDaShadow · · Score: 2, Informative

    The coral cache is working. By the way, add this bookmark as one of your favorites, and from now on, everytime you get an error message *AND* the URL does not change, choose the bookmark to "coralize" it (NOTE DO THIS IN ONE LINE!):

    javascript: var g_url=%22%22;var split_url=document.URL.split('/');g_url=split_url[ 2]+%22.nyud.net:8090%22;for (var i=3; isplit_url.length; i++){g_url = g_url + %22/%22 + split_url[i];}g_url=%22http://%22+g_url;document.l ocation = g_url;

    I have a question about firefox (and this happened while I tried to get the coral link): Why when you are looking at your bookmarks and right click on them, the next time you select the bookmarks menu it doesn't show up?

  22. Priceless! by age+of+reason · · Score: 2, Funny


    Buying HALO 2: 45 bucks.

    Submitting a self promotional story to slashdot and seeing your servers catching fire: priceless!

  23. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by AndyMouse+GoHard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    And... so? I mean, what do you care? Clicking on some type of "next" for subsequent pages is quite common. What's your real problem here? It's obviously not the fact they're getting ad revenue. You've got a different chip on your shoulder. Did they not choose your game?

    Bill

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  24. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by aztektum · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't worry, it's /.'d ... so I'd say the ppl that did go to read it did more to help your boycott than you did. :P

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  25. My suggestion is Darkspace. by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Darkspace by PaleStar / Richard "Faustus" Lyle.

    Darkspace is Space Combat MMOG, not a mining simulation like Eve; imagine multi-player elite on steroids. PvP combat in a large scale persistent Meta-Verse of about 40 Star systems of 10-30 planets with 3 factions, 2 human and 1 alien.

    Each faction has about 30 unique ships. You can fly combat ships from small fast stealthy long range scouts, frigate, destroyers, cruisers, dreadnaught and even space stations, each ship has uniques capabilities. There are also support ships such as engineers to build planets, supply ships to repair friendly forces and transports to trade resources, carry troops or ships mods.

    You form fleets, or join an established fleet, or fight as a lone wolf. You can put down rebellions, capture planets & moons, bomb them, mine them, build them up with a wide range of structures as mining colonies, military training camps for troops, factory planets for ships mods, or front line supply depots using various structures including habitation, factories, powers planets, repair depots, barracks, defensive installations, supply depots and factories, even shipyards.

    You can modify your ships extensively, upgrade your engines for more power and speed, switch between long range/stand-off weapons like fighers and missiles, or get close up and personal with cannon and torpedoes. You can sneak up to enemy ships, and paint them for your big guns, board and capture them with elite troops, or simply spy scout them out. As you go gain prestige, rank, earning honors alone the way, giving you a progress increase in choice.

    I've been playing Darkspace for 2 years, I'm ranked in the top 30 players out of 6000 regulars and it still holds a challenge. IMHO its up there amoungt the best games of all time.

    You dont even have to believe me, you can download the game client for free (windows only) and receive a weeks free trial.

  26. TROLL ALERT - MOD HIM DOWN! by MBCook · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This is a troll. Those are NOT the top three games. Those are NOT EVEN ON THE LIST. The site seems to be working now, but here is the REAL LIST anyways:

    10. I of the Enemy
    9. Revolved
    8. Smugglers 3
    7. Global Defense Network
    6. Anito: Defend a Land Endangered
    5. BreakQuest
    4. Outpost Kaloki
    3. Hamsterball
    2. Wik & The Fable of Souls
    1. Gish (by the fantastic Chronic Logic)

    That's the REAL list. Gish is the only one I've heard of, though some of those look interesting (and many have GREAT graphics). The one game I wish was on there is N by metanet software. I was addicted to that game for weeks. Very cool little game - "play as a ninja trapped in a world of well-meaning, inadvertantly homicidal robots. " Give it a try!

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    1. Re:TROLL ALERT - MOD HIM DOWN! by MBCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sorry. Meant to give a link to "N". You can find it here. I don't know how they came up with it, but it's just so much fun (and the graphics are very simple in a clean and elegant kind of way).

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    2. Re:TROLL ALERT - MOD HIM DOWN! by LakeSolon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why is it I never had mod points when I actually want them? Please Mod Parent up, I'm now addicted to "N".

      ~Lake

  27. A bit sad... by Bagels · · Score: 3, Informative

    to see Spiderweb Software's Blades of Avernum tactical RPG missing from the list. I am getting a tad tired of the re-use of the old Avernum engine, but the plots of Jeff Vogel's scenarios and the overall gameplay are just fantastic. Avernum 2 remains my favorite, if only for some of the ridiculous battles that you could face off in the end (one of which had the enemy turns lasting a good twenty times longer than mine simply because there were so many of them). You could keep yourself occupied for hours just playing the various demos available from their site - since each demo is about a fourth of its respective game, there's literally about the equivalent of a game and a half there to play.

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  28. Expansion pack? by Weeb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The submitter is feigning dramatic ignorance in the hope of generating controversy and attention, methinks.

    This will be covered over and over again, but I'm going to try and be concise:

    When you code a brand new engine from scratch, it's not an expansion. Expansions are add-ins for existing engines. 'kay?

    While I appreciate the edgy tone of effective PR, I do hope that cyrus_zuo understands that his mischaracterization erodes his credibility as any sort of authority on gaming.

    I love Halo 2, but there are many accurate gripes you can offer toward it:

    - Unsatisfying ending
    - Repetitious single player action
    - Microsoft is evil

    I could go on. Over-zealous "indie" people are bitter and angry in any case. The snarky is to be expected.

  29. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Either the parent is a troll, or Game Tunnel realized they were being slashdotted into oblivion and moved the article to a single static page with no ads.

    Either way, it's a single page article with no ads as I'm posting this....

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  30. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh God. I just spent the New Years posting a comment to slashdot.

    brilliant

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  31. Interesting anecdote about I of the Enemy by Pluvius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At the forum for the warez .NFO site I frequent, the developer of that game actually asked people for their opinions about it. I'm not sure if he realized that everyone there was a software pirate, but either way he managed to guilt-trip a few people out of downloading his game. Brilliant idea, far better than most copy protection.

    Rob

  32. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by Kristoffer+Lunden · · Score: 4, Funny

    And my stance is I refuse to get opinions or advice on what is appropriate behaviour from anyone named "Pussyjuice". Or who uses the expression "is The Suck", for that matter.

    You, sir, need to get out of the basement.

  33. Re:Game Tunnel is The Suck by MadChicken · · Score: 2

    ...are you saying NEE to that old woman?

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