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Microsoft's Technical Glitches at CES Explained

Thomas Hawk writes "Sean Alexander is one of the guys on the Media Center Team at Microsoft who was involved in the CES presentation with Bill Gates. Sean also runs a very interesting blog called Addicted to Digital Media. Gates and Microsoft have taken a lot of heat over the course of the last two days for the technical glitches in Microsoft's presentation at CES. Sean offers us the rare glimpse on why the glitches happened and what it's like to be backstage at the big Microsoft presentation at CES. Very good follow up on Sean's part." Update: 01/08 19:03 GMT by T : Hawk writes with a static link to Alexander's story.

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  1. Same machine by Bloater · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seems to be running his blog on the same machine as they used at the CES presentation.

    1. Re:Same machine by krymsin01 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You are mistaken.

      "SERVICE UNAVAILABLE" is his report. Very good work. I wish we had people half as good as this guy at the company I work for.

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    2. Re:Same machine by bigman2003 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wow...you must be fun at parties.

      The second poster was actually furthering the first posters joke.

      First poster "ha ha...the webserver doesn't work either"

      Second poster "he he...no, it's working...but the report only consists of the two words 'Service Unavailable', which sums up the problem"

      So now I'm in the asshat category for trying to explain it...oh well.

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    3. Re:Same machine by Aurix · · Score: 3, Funny


      Second poster "he he...no, it's working...but the report only consists of the two words 'Service Unavailable', which sums up the problem"

      First microsoft guy i've ever "met" that hasn't used a tonne of buzzwords and actually makes sense :P

  2. It's nice and concise... by Xpilot · · Score: 3, Funny

    The explanation we were all waiting for! Bill Gates' demo failed because...

    "Service Unavailable"

    That makes it all clear in just 2 short words! Great summary :)

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  3. Deja vu by Legion303 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember that video that was floating around of Win98 blue-screening during a presentation? Good times.

    1. Re:Deja vu by SCHecklerX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And notice that despite that, M$ still manages to be the software that is everyware.

    2. Re:Deja vu by Xabraxas · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah it is sickening, isn't it.

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    3. Re:Deja vu by timeOday · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Unlike Apple, Microsoft does not have tight control over the hundreds of thousands of parts that go into the development of a PC.
      They do when giving a demo at a huge trade show.
    4. Re:Deja vu by Feztaa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unlike Apple, Microsoft does not have tight control over the hundreds of thousands of parts that go into the development of a PC. At least Apple can maintain a high level of quality control over hardware along with their OS.

      Ahhhh, that explains why Linux is so stable. Torvalds rules over the hardware manufacturers with an iron fist!

      (if you hadn't noticed, linux runs on much more varied hardware than windows does, and is much more stable. MS has no excuse anymore)

    5. Re:Deja vu by IdleTime · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Wow...

      So because you can't manage to install Linux or have hardware that for some reason is not supported by Linux (and I really would like to know if you are just trolling and what hw and problems you have had), you claim that the parent poster is wrong. Amazing!

      I have used Linux since kernel 0.91 and as my main OS since 1995. I have installed it on a wide varity of hardware. Problems, sure... Not been able to install it? Never. And in the past few years close to zero problems. Currently running Gentoo on 2 P4's and and AMD64 box. The 2 P4's are Dell's, the AMD64 a no-name box.

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  4. Behind the Scenes at the CES Keynote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    [Disclaimer: the following comments are my own based on my own perception of events. Provided as-is and confers no rights]
    Wow, things have been so busy here at CES that I'm just getting around to blogging, starting with my promised behind the scenes of the Bill Gates CES 2005 Keynote. I've done a short version and a long version for those who have been emailing, asking me to follow up on my earlier post.

    Summary
    Wednesday night, Bill Gates hosted the 2005 CES Opening Keynote along with his surprise guest, Late Night's Conan O'Brien. Overall I think things went well, but as can happen with live events with so many variables, there were a couple of technical issues noted by sites like Engadget. The key thing for me that I could have done a better job on-stage pointing out is that despitea small glitch with a remotecontrol (IR) receiver, a single Media Center ran all theMedia Center demos andwe kept rolling despitethe hiccup. According to the postmortem, it appears a 2nd IR receiverrun over to Bill's seat failed, so the Media Center never got the signal. It could have been all the IR interference in the venue- cameras and plasma displays and lights, or the powered USB booster - a piece of equipment that gets a USB signal over a long-stretch. The production team also handled a small power outage exceptionally well in the minutes leading up which might have contributed. These things happen and the team pulled it out despite some obstacles out of their control.

    Below is my account of what was happening back stage.

    Rehearsals
    Setup and runthroughs went great the day before and day of.We did about a half-dozen individual runthroughs and 3-4 end to end runthroughs. Everything was running great except for an intermittent Internet bandwidth issue. We replaced a router and that appeared to solve part of the problem but bandwidth continued to be intermittent as I noted in my previous entry.

    15 Minutes Till Showtime: Makeup
    Yes, we had to wear makeup. I sat in a chair next to Conan and we discussed our Irish roots and he was cracking jokes. The night before, I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to have dinner with Conan and a few folks from his Late Night team at Nobu in the Hard Rock Hotel. What a great guy, a great storyteller and super-funny. I can see why he's been announced as the next host of The Tonight Show when Jay steps down.

    Showtime!
    For the account below, here are my own thoughts and the timing is approximate thanks to Engadget :)

    6:30pm - Everyone is charged up and ready to go. Gary Shapiro, President of the CEA (host of CES)is getting ready to go on-stage. But firsta little background - in order to drive the slides and overall production coordination, a sort of "Mission Control" is set up backstage to drive the technical systems - slides, prompters, timers etc. We're settling in for Conan's monologue when two electrical engineerswalk behind themain operations tables to check a piece of equipment. From my vantage point, one the UPSes (Uninterruptable Power Supplies) has been triggered and they're troubleshooting.

    6:31pm - Everything is still running- troubleshootingis going onin the dark with flashlights, more engineers and members of the production crew are working methodically, as the UPS is running down, tracing connections, circuits. I'm standing clear w/ my team going over what I want to say. I find out later the presentation systems are all on the same UPS- slides moved to backup and systems are being powered down.

    6:40pm - The UPS is going. The Xboxes for the Forza Racing game sneak preview demos (which we had back stage due to space restrictions on stage) lost power. It appears the main demo systems on-stage weren't affected except for Xbox from what I can tell. Their bringing their demosback up.

    6:41pm - Keynote starts. We're looking good- the power circuit is back but the production team decidesto continue on backup PPT cuing systems as best I can tell. The show must go on. :)

    1. Re:Behind the Scenes at the CES Keynote by Jacco+de+Leeuw · · Score: 4, Funny
      It could have been all the IR interference in the venue

      Next time, Microsoft had better attendees frisked for rogue remote controls! Damn GNU hippies! :-)

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    2. Re:Behind the Scenes at the CES Keynote by Khan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Excuse my ignorance but, wouldn't it have been better to use a RF remote as oppose to an IR one?

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    3. Re:Behind the Scenes at the CES Keynote by Momoru · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The UPS is going. The Xboxes for the Forza Racing game sneak preview demos (which we had back stage due to space restrictions on stage) lost power.

      Random note...this same thing happened when Microsoft was going to demo the Xbox on The Apprentice...the xbox must suck some serious juice, or these road show teams just don't understand how much power one circuit can handle!

    4. Re:Behind the Scenes at the CES Keynote by Keebler71 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wait... does this mean that the slashot story coverage claiming that the "Media Center PC Presentation Crashed" was an exageration? Say it isn't so...

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    5. Re:Behind the Scenes at the CES Keynote by FigWig · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That was more likely due to the large plasma TVs they were also powering from the same generator.

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  5. Blooper Video by antdude · · Score: 5, Informative

    Click here to view a streaming video. It shows Conan O'Brien easing the tension with his classic humor as Bill Gates encountered problems with his remote control while demoing the Windows Media Center.

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    1. Re:Blooper Video by AstroDrabb · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That would be pretty lame to get fired for a remote not working. Though it was Bill G. and he was in the spotlight.

      I would like to know if there was any testing done? I didn't think the remote not working was a big deal, remotes break, batteries die, etc.

      What I thought looked bad was the big BSOD on the XBox in the middle of a game.

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  6. Mirror here: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  7. IIS - that explains it! by Hamstij · · Score: 3, Informative
    Wow - not even half a dozen posts and his website is already down.

    But Netcraft (and "What's that site running?") goes a long way to explaining why!

    blog.seanalexander.com Windows 2000

  8. some folks never learn by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is interesting. If I hit it in Mozilla, I immediately get service unavailable. If, however, I just telnet in, I get the page after a few minutes of waiting.

    Well, try again and I don't:

    mdchaney@fractal:~/taxi$ telnet blog.seanalexander.com 80
    Trying 66.226.14.131...
    Connected to blog.seanalexander.com.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    GET / HTTP/1.1
    Host: blog.seanalexander.com

    HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable
    Content-Type: text/html
    Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 14:49:42 GMT
    Connection: close
    Content-Length: 28

    Service UnavailableConnection closed by foreign host.

  9. Never seen Steve Jobs in this situation by JPyObjC+Dude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Has anybody ever seen an OSX box crap out on Steve? I have not heard of this or seen it.

    Hmmmm.

    Good excuses are still just good excuses.

    JsD

    1. Re:Never seen Steve Jobs in this situation by justforaday · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, I used to work with a Steve. There was this one time where his machine had a kernel panic. So it can happen. Just cos you're named Steve doesn't mean you're immune...

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    2. Re:Never seen Steve Jobs in this situation by peechdogg · · Score: 2, Insightful
      and i don't think i've ever heard of a Solaris box dumping on McNeally either. but when practical matters are taken into consideration, most folks can't even afford the hardware to run these OS'es, much less find the tools and apps they want to. i know Sun is working to make Solaris usable on x86, but that's a long way from being widely usable.

      i don't have any difficulty finding several cars that meet my needs. getting the combination of good hardware and software seems darn near impossible.

      i don't thing we're near as technically advanced as we would like to believe.

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    3. Re:Never seen Steve Jobs in this situation by kristofme · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here is just one of many examples (from a while back).
      Of course, keep in mind that he gives demos all the time, and more so than Gates, so it's bound to happen now and then..

    4. Re:Never seen Steve Jobs in this situation by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is a difference between a typo and having the paper catch fire while you are reading it.

    5. Re:Never seen Steve Jobs in this situation by SCHecklerX · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Nor an OS/2 box on David Barnes...remember the shootout in texas? He mopped the floor with windows NT.

      M$ has always been inferior, yet they are still on top. Hopefully it will change soon with the uprising of linux and osx.

    6. Re:Never seen Steve Jobs in this situation by SilentChris · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's also a big difference between a paper catching fire and an IR remote signal getting confused by flashbulbs going around it. If you read the blog, you'd see they just went ahead with the slideshow manually. The Xbox game was kind of unexcusable, though (although, Bungie did pull off an impressive demo during E3 last year, so it kind of makes up for it).

      As far as I know, Steve Jobs has resorted to trickery for most of us presentations. The original iBook that had Airport used a custom external wireless video interface to display on the main screen (it cost more than the iBook itself). Steve claims he's used "Keynote" for most of his presentations (even before it was released), but the fact that it caused kernel panics on ATI hardware makes me question that. That's why he referred to as a "master showman" and not a "master presenter".

    7. Re:Never seen Steve Jobs in this situation by schmaltz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Steve Jobs has resorted to trickery for most of us presentations

      Ah, that's good, make up some bitter anti-Apple FUD when your own platform gets some bad publicity. So defensive! When Microsoft already dominates computing into the high nineties percentage, in ways both good (broad market for those who create software, peripherals), and bad (poor security, rampant virii/trojans, many exploits), why is it so hard to accept criticism?

      When a figurehead from MS has a very public failure, everybody focuses on it - it's as though it was a symbol for MS's other failures (security etc.) It gives people an outlet, where they otherwise feel they have no control over those situations where they feel victimized by MS's failures.

      So, relax! MS will continue to dominate, and criticism will continue to flow. Just ignore it, think of it as primal therapy for hackers.

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  10. Re:Up and running Win XP 64 build 1289 by JustNiz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh man what a troll. Do you even check your 'facts'?

    1) There IS 64 bit Linux. (e.g. RedHat Enterprise 3 64 bit version)

    2) The analog to a start menu was in the first Apple Mac GUIs, WAY before Windows.

    3) Popup blockers have been around a LONG time in mozilla/firefox etc. IE has just finally got a very poor implementation of it.

    4) 3 button mice were on many Unix Workstations as standard at least 15 years ago, At that time you couldn't even buy a 3 button windows mouse. Middle mouse button usage is stil far better integrated into the X window/Unix/Linux world than Windows.

  11. The Problem... They used Windows by hey · · Score: 2, Funny

    Things would have gone better otherwise.

  12. It's encouraging... by RealBeanDip · · Score: 4, Funny

    to see BG's machine craps out when he needs it the most just like mine does when I do.

    Unfortunately for me, I don't have anyone to fire.

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  13. come together by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The most interesting part of this story is that Alexander still has all his fingers left to type a report on the debacle.

    The other most interesting part of this whole story is that the rest of us don't have Alexander, the MS Media Center Team, or the Windows source code. So when we get the BSoD, we're left scratching our heads. That's why we use Linux: with Open Source, we're as privileged as Bill Gates, to whom Windows is Open Source, because he's got the keys to the vault. His CES debacle should open everyone's eyes to the difference. Especially the "communists" in the global IT community who'd rather not spend more on Gates' closed source, and get less - and get hung out to dry with a crashed Windows app thousands of times a day, around the world.

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    1. Re:come together by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm a Windows consultant, so problem solving w/ PCs is my job

      So your vested interest lies in fixing the buggy nightmare that is Windows. You make your living off BSoD crashes. If it worked, you'd have to get a lot more creative than installing a patch rebooting 'til it kinda works. The OS shouldn't crash when running a USB repeater and/or a flaky Internet connection - that's a crappy OS at work.

      Your Windows bias lets you excuse that prison in which we all work, while complaining that a specific Linux distro doesn't support a specific piece of hardware, or that a dinky little ".org" website is down at some particular time. If Windows didn't control the market though nontechnical superiority, more HW would be tested for Linux compatibility due to market demand, unconstrained by monopoly competition. And if you were a more experienced presenter yourself, as am I after 28 years in your business, starting when facilities often didn't even have 3-prong power outlets for grounded equipment cables, you'd have prepared a lot better. Gates, of course, has no excuse, except that monopoly makes you complacent, and sometimes you wind up with pie on your face.

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    2. Re:come together by Trelane · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I'm sorry Linux isn't working out for you as well as Windows. From what you've posted thus far, it sounds like it's really close; it's just hardware compatibility you're having a problem with.
      Another day I get the fware, and follow a guide to config the card to (hopefully) connect to my home WIFI, no luck.
      I don't know what to tell you here, due to lack of info. I use Linux to connect my cisco 802.11b card and the ipw2100 card to connect to my AP without issue; my guess is that you're missing a configuration detail. The folks at your lug may help you out here if you give them the details.
      because FC3 makes it to much of a pain to connect to any of the 3 WIFI networks I need to use regularly.
      I don't think this is FC3's fault here; sounds like you're missing some config detail that is keeping you from connecting.
      XP OTOH remebers WEP keys for them all and connects right up.
      FC3 remembers a variety wep keys as well, so I don't believe that XP is unique in this regard.
      or the above, and several other reasons, it's far from ready for prime time for the small businesses I support.
      Quite possibly, depending on your small businesses and their needs. OTOH, I think Linux is ready for a great many applications than it's currently given credit for (e.g. helpdesks, some secretaries (depending on the apps they need), etc.) I don't know your clients and their needs, however. Generally, I'd say that saying "Linux isn't ready for the desktop at all" is incorrect as a blanket statement; it highly depends on what the users need.
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  14. Bill Gates by szyzyg · · Score: 5, Funny

    If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed, he'd be... oh wait never mind

    1. Re:Bill Gates by MaynardJanKeymeulen · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, assume 800 million computer out there running.
      Don't know how reliable this is, it was the first thing I found while googling.
      (while looking at that page, take a look at the "previous question" too, quite funny)
      Let's underestimate and say that 500 million of those run some form of MS Windows.
      Each user uses his computer 1 hour a day (again underestimating I think)
      this gives 500 million hours of computer time a day.
      Windows lasts (for the sake of simplicity, don't forget a lot of those computer might still use Win9x)
      50 hours before Bsod'ing, which gives 10 million Bsod's a day,
      so It would take mr Gates 280 centuries.

      Conclusion: he must be very old.

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  15. Uh-oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    From Microsoft Legal, Slashdotters need to remember to properly attribute Microsoft intellectual property when such attribution is due:
    "Service Unavailable TM" is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Copyright 2004-2005. Other registered marks that Slashdotters may not use without appropriate attribution include:
    • Brute Force: as in "it is easy to obtain access to any Windows server via Brute Force(TM)"
    • Devastator: as in "Microsoft products are often called the Devastator(TM) of network integrity and reliability."
    • Fist of the Lotus: as in "after we had our customer database stolen via the latest MS SQL Server exploit, I felt as if the CFO crammed the Fist of the Lotus(TM) up my ass."

    Please see the Microsoft Trademarks website for additional details.
  16. Slides located "here"? by ansak · · Score: 4, Informative
    As in here.

    fwiw: I got into the page after 15 tries, myself.

    cheers...ank

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  17. Post Mortems of the demo miss the point by lildogie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Explaining what went wrong in the demo, and how environmental factors contributed to the glitch/crash, misses the point that the audience so obviously got:

    Microsoft products have problems with crashing. Everyone who uses them knows that. Conan knows that. Bill knows that.

    The amusement factor is that even the leader of the company knows that and experiences it in the most sensitive moments.

    If you need software to run critical proceses in a nuke plant or an airplane, would you use Microsoft products?

  18. Re:But did the demos actually work? by tomhudson · · Score: 5, Funny
    or did you all forget to read the full blog article?
    Most of us got treated to the "executive summary version" - you know - "Service Unavailable"
  19. CES keynote, a bad infomercial at 2am? by webdev · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Fake questions, with broken demos? Gates must of had a stong drink back at the hotel that night. I was laughing just like I do at those bad 2am infomercials where the blender doesn't work.

    All year I read about how Bill Gates is the wealthiest, most successful businessman in the world. I don't want to hear about internet access challenges when you are showing off technology that uses the internet. At that point in the keynote I began to wonder why is Microsoft even at the show (nevermind the keynote address)? Shouldn't the keynote be given by a person from Sony/Apple or some other vender that can deliver reliable hardware and software?

    The Forza Motorsport demo should have been a slam dunk. Who wants their console gaming experience to be more like a pc experience? With the Xbox Microsoft is introducing unreliability in the gaming console market. Bravo.

    They should only have a small booth in the back of CES in my opinion.

  20. That's live theatre, folks by Dammital · · Score: 4, Insightful
    While I get a chuckle every time Microsoft is hoist by their own BSOD petard, in this case the production staff is due some kudos for staying cool under fire.

    In my other life I do tech for a local community theatre group. Folks, anything can happen during a live performance. No matter how much you might prepare, stuff happens, and it happens in front of everybody. Power can fail, body mikes can break, lamps burn out, RFI can wreak havoc. You can't prepare for every eventuality, but you can handle the situation with grace.

    It sounds to me like the Microsofties did fine.

    1. Re:That's live theatre, folks by oGMo · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You can't prepare for every eventuality, but you can handle the situation with grace.

      You can also write software that doesn't suck. You can write programs that don't crash. You can make things that are secure. These are things you can control.

      Things like mics breaking, lamps burning out, and other physical things happen, yes. Physical things break down, and you can swap them out during a presentation. But software is not one of these things.

      Everyone who is making excuses needs to face it: the software is what they were presenting, and it broke down in the middle of a big presentation. Not someone else's hardware. The software. Their software.

      Even if it was hardware, would it be excusable? If Intel was presenting their latest chip, and it melted during the presentation, wouldn't you be worried about its viability? If a manufacturer of hospital IV machines did a presentation, and in the middle their hardware died and stopped delivering IV fluid, would you consider purchase? Why then, with something that's not hardware, that's more fully controllable, do we make excuses?

      We shouldn't. This is just another problem in a long line of problems from a vendor who is notorious for problematic software.

      Don't make excuses.

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  21. Sean's Post by Thomas+Hawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Say what you will about Microsoft but I think it's really great the amount of communication that they are sharing with the public through blogs and posts like this. I think that to work somewhere where you can post a blog entry about technical glitches at CES and not get fired is pretty cool. Microsoft's most famous blogger, Robert Scoble, is often offering up posts that many might find to have "anti Microsoft" tones and he can do so without fear of losing his job. Sometimes criticism, even self criticism, can be a good thing and allows us all to improve. What impressed me the most about Sean's post is that it was allowed to happen at all. It adds a very human element to Microsoft and opens up a way for Microsoft and the public to directly communicate. I think the tollerance that Microsoft has and the willingness to be open about problems and issues with their software is refreshing and will make the company and the software that much better in the long run. Kudos to Sean and his team. They did a great job and pulled off a great recovery in one of those awkward technical moments that we've all been through ourselves in the past.

  22. Rigged demos? by Tony+Hammitt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whatever happened to running rigged demos for trade shows? Heck, Bill ran a rigged demo _during_ the antitrust case _in_court_. Are we to believe that they have forgotten how to do a rigged demo in recent years? Why would they put themselves through all this ridicule?

    I know a salesman that tells a story of running a rigged demo every 45 minutes for 2 days straight during a trade show in order to sell pharmacists on the idea of getting a computer system. It's not all that uncommon a thing to do.

    Sure, media center is a little complicated to rig a demo for, but it's a lot easier than putting up with the aftermath of 3 BSoDs. I'd rather have something approaching a slide show than have Conan O'Brien make fun of me. (too bad they don't have any rich-media slideshow software to write this in, like Hypercard or something)

    But that's their problem. I really don't care. Any "media" PC that has DRM is something I don't care to buy. If it comes to not being able to buy some movie or whatever that won't run without DRM telling on me when I do so, I'll just pop in a VHS tape or a commercial-stripped DVD and enjoy myself anyway.

  23. No surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Windows is crap, no surprise there.

    But what I want to know is why you can walk around the show floor at LinuxWorld in the morning, before it's open to the public, and see so many Windows logos on the big projection screens they use for presentations. This always boggles my mind.

  24. Re:Unrelated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've said this before many times... Apple isn't innovative, they are an early adopter. With a good track history of picking the right things to adopt.

    Apple was the early adopter in the GUI/mouse controlled interface, 32-bit systems, 24-bit color displays, laser printing, powered serial bus, CD-ROM in every system, the sacking of the floppy, Combo driver (DVD read/CD writer) in every system, network capability in every system, 64-bit systems...

    In none of these cases did Apple invent the technology, nor were they the first to market. In all cases Apple implemented the technology in their systems well before the technology/ideas started to be implemented elsewhere in the PC industry.

  25. I'm just going to say... wow... by ndnet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is directed toward Sean. Great explanation of the events leading up to the hiccups. All-in-all, it sounds like you guys did a bang up job. I'm a bit curious, however: Roughly how long was that USB extension, and how much did the USB repeater cost? I've been a bit interested in that. And, as said above, cell phone fan is being, at a minimum, unduly harsh. I could almost understand a post like that if the reason for a failure was "we forgot to test" or "the media center PC had spyware". It was a live show. I've done live shows and demos, I've taught multiple classes, and I know how things love to go wrong. (Ugh... that senior citizen's MS Office class.... bad memories...) None the less, it sounds like you and your team handled it gracefully, with a witty ad-lib recovery (which, I might add, was appropriate because of Conan's presence). And right now, you're doing what Microsoft as a whole should be doing: being open and transparent, and explaining everything that could get wrong.

  26. So it is due to a hardware problem? by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine that. I wonder if they have contacted their hardware vendor.

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  27. It's unwise to use IR or RF in presentations by Morgaine · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whatever the reasons why the presentation failed in this particular case, in general it is a bad idea to use non-wired technologies for important presentations where reliability needs to be assured.

    Infrared and bluetooth and wifi are great for use at home where the environment is stable and controlled, but in a major international event like CES, the conditions are exactly the opposite. If one could see in the IR band, I bet the CES stage would have appeared swamped in a blizzard of unwanted IR confetti from numerous sources.

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  28. Are we even slightly surprised it's down? by v1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    $ telnet blog.seanalexander.com 25
    Trying 66.226.14.131...
    Connected to blog.seanalexander.com.
    Escape character is '^]'.
    220 dedi312 Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 6.0.3790.211 ready at Sat, 8 Jan 2005 08:00:47 -0800

    (I didn't feel like checking to see if it was also an open relay, that would just have completely topped it)

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    1. Re:Are we even slightly surprised it's down? by rohanl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      $ blog.seanalexander.com 25
      Trying 66.226.14.131...
      Connected to blog.seanalexander.com.
      Escape character is '^]'.
      220 dedi312 Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 6.0.3790.211 ready at Sat, 8 Jan 2005 17:12:10 -0800
      helo
      250 dedi312 Hello [203.45.93.121]
      MAIL From: bill@microsoft.com
      250 2.1.0 bill@microsoft.com....Sender OK
      RCPT To: test@xxxxxx.com
      550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for test@xxxxxx.com

  29. Re:Grow a brain before typing! by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your brain is not getting the message that the OS needs to be stable enough to handle changes like that. The proof of the kernel crash is the BSoD, regardless what caused it. What happens to the thousands of home users who do something like that, call Alexander? It's not acceptable to peddle something that fragile to unsophisticated users who just want to watch their movie in their darkened living room. Especially when they will *have* to use that piece of crap, because their movie is sold with DRM forcing them to play it on a Microsoft rig. Drop the baseless Microsoft apologies, flamer, and leave the "troll" accusations for mods who can't even post a hollow attack like yours.

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  30. Should have made Bill do pushups by putaro · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I was at Apple, if you were doing a demo in front of a large group and something crashed, the cry would come up from the audience "push-ups, push-ups!" with the presenter supposed to do push-ups on stage until the demo got fixed by the rest of the crew.

    The best demo ever, though, was when the QuickTime crew was demoing some new stuff on Mac OS 7. They're going along, and suddenly the screen jumps into MacsBug (the old low-level debugger - this was what you got instead of the bomb screen if you had MacsBug installed). We all start yelling "push-ups, push-ups" and the presenter goes "Well, let's see if we can look a little deeper into this" and clicks the mouse. The MacsBug screen peels off and we get this video of guys banging around with hammers inside the machine. What a great setup.

  31. BSOD by codepunk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It was my understanding that the machine suffered a BSOD. If it did not in fact BSOD and only had ir pointer problem then what is the big deal. I hate MS as much as anyone but I am not going to bust anyones chops over a ir pointer gone haywire. On the other hand if it did BSOD or suffer a shell reset then they deserve every bit of criticism they get.

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    1. Re:BSOD by EddWo · · Score: 2, Informative

      It wasn't Media Center that bluescreened, it was an XBox. The Media Center PC ran fine throughout the presentation, it just wasn't getting any signals from Bills remote.
      The XBox was running an unreleased preview of a game due out in April. I think it was a debug build because the error that appeared was an Assertion.

      The screen read:

      Assertion Failure
      Out of System Memory. If you are loading, try decreasing your...

      File: \mainHeap.cpp
      Function: SimpleHeap::Alloc
      Line: 355
      Version 1.04.12.14.47..
      PERF Build

      Press A for a mini-dump
      Press B to continue
      Press X to break.

      I've never done any XBox development, but it appears that type of error is caused by a problem in user code rather than a kernel failure. Sure they ought to fix it before the game is released, but it doesn't seem like a major problem. How often do Xboxes bluescreen in the real world running a release build?

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    2. Re:BSOD by EddWo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      First this is a games console, not a general purpose computer.
      A console typically allow much closer access to the hardware for performance reasons. So code running on a console does not have the same protections as code on a general purpose computer.

      Second, this is not a kernel faliure, it is an Assertion caused by a low memory condition. The console OS is still running and is still accepting user input, hence "mini-dump", "continue", or "break".

      An xbox doesn't have a general purpose windowing system underneath, so it can't display a nice polite error message, it just writes directly to the screen.

      If you were developing and debugging a console game and you hit an assertion failure what would you expect it to do?

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  32. You'll get beat up some day, you know... :) by Chemisor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > I'm glad that I outed you as a former MS employee,

    I don't recall hiding it. I'm happy to tell anyone who asks about Microsoft and how little basis there is for bashing it.

    > Who knew that you actually produced that crappy software?

    Excuse me, but I did not produce any "crappy software". In fact, it was all pretty damn good, considering what it had to do. I don't know how long it's been since you've actually used any Microsoft software, but it must have been decades, since everything made by Microsoft on my machine is functioning very well, thank you. Any crashes I've seen were caused by third party software, mostly by games. Furthermore, I've seen no OS crashes since I've left Microsoft, where I had to run all those "buggy" daily builds of W2K, which in reality were more robust than the Linux developer branches.

    > selling your developer soul to the beast

    If that's how you say "making a living", you have my condolences.

    > you don't even know that the only universal
    > language among programmers is "profanity"

    I would clarify that "profanity" is the universal language of bad programmers. Good programmers don't curse as much because our code usually works, and we don't put profanity in it because we respect our coworkers and, generally, have good manners.

    > when you don't even realize that Stallman, who actually *is*
    > a communist, doesn't speak for all of us in the commercial, yet open, software biz.

    Oh goody! Stallman is a communist now, but you are not? Would you be so kind as to outline your disagreements? You seem to be in the same boat to me so far.

    > Calling me a communist gets you a "fuck you" on Slashdot, and worse in person

    Is that a threat? :) Oh dear, I think I'll be turning my tail and running now. The great "Doc Ruby" is after me! It's too bad he didn't even bother to find out whether I can fight.

    > Here's a clue: since MS source code is as open within
    > an MS corporate project as is any GNU code to anyone

    No, it isn't. You get only your group's source code, and only because you need it. You certainly do not get write access to any code that you are not directly working on. Although you can ask for the code from another group, it is not a common practice and I don't recall any instances where that happened.

    > does that make the MS Redmond campus some kind of "commune"

    More like a college, really.

    > So drop the obnxoius "communist" rhetoric that betrays your fascist attitude.

    Perhaps you could clarify your meaning of the word "fascist"? I am getting an impression that you use it as "someone who doesn't agree with me".

    > rather than the monopoly fascism that you're defending from your ex-boss.

    One of the reasons Microsoft has a monopoly is that nobody has written anything better. I don't consider OpenOffice as good as MSOffice, and OpenOffice seems to be the only noteworthy competitor. There's KOffice, and a few other copies, but nothing substantial. Why don't you write one, if you are so "secure in your own power"?

    > the home users left hanging when they're just
    > trying to watch a movie that requires Bill's
    > latest monopoly gristle, and they were foolish
    > enough to unplug the remote

    Oh, you poor thing. Your remote is broken :( Now you'll actually have to get off your lazy butt and walk ten feet to the DVD player and press the PLAY button. Such torture! How did people ever survive without remote control?

  33. Re:Up and running Win XP 64 build 1289 by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 2, Informative

    Linux was ported to the 64 bit DEC Alpha, one of the first ports of Linux (first by Linus anyway, but there were earlier ports to, I think, m68k by others), over a decade ago.

    Linux has been 64 bit for ten years. Before many *proprietary* OSes!

    (NT for Alpha was not 64 bit, it was a 32bit port.).

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  34. Re:Config by Trelane · · Score: 2, Informative
    Your entire posting is factually incorrect, imho. The defaults for most things I see on my Linux desktop are correct and usable (e.g. by default, there is no WEP key or essid set; one can connect to any open AP). You sound like you either have little experience with Linux, or are very experienced with Windows and expected Linux to be just like Windows, which is next to impossible, and saw enough to convince you that your pre-concieved notions were right. From your postings below, I see that you're a former Microsoft employee, so that is quite likely the case.
    So all Linux programs have their ugly text configuration files which require hundreds of manual pages to describe every possible configuration option without giving a single example of what should be the most common setup (a home user on a personal desktop).
    This is also quite incorrect. Linux distributions aimed at non-geeks all feature highly usable graphical user interfaces for both installation and configuration, and should be usable with only a little help if the user is inexperienced in Linux. They do store the information you choose in a text-based configuration file, which you may use in lieu of the graphical interface if you so choose (similar to the Windows Registry, which you could also edit directly instead of dealing with the graphical user interface, if you had manual pages to guide you). Of course, if the user is coming from another operating system, it will likely take a little adjustment to get used to the new locations and phrasings, but this should have minimal impact, if the user is not hostile to the change.

    "all Linux programs", "ugly text configuration files", "require hundres of manual pages to describe every possible configuration option". These are all phrasings which are not only incorrect, but which are hyperbolic, intended to distort perception and which are the hallmarks of either high emotion or trolls. Hopefully, you are the former, not the latter, and I may talk to you after you've calmed down a bit. But for now, for my own sanity, I wont' discuss things like this with someone who's hostile to them.

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  35. IR interference and a bridge to sell you by ArtDent · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's an interesting explanation, but I'm having a lot of trouble buying it.

    My Myth box has a PS/2 keyboard connector, as well as several USB ports. I can easily connect a keyboard to it. If my remote control were to stop working for any reason, I'd still be able to control the system. I notice that the Alienware Media Center systems all have USB ports, too.

    Given that they had set up a USB-based IR receiver with a powered USB booster, surely they were aware of the fact that relying on IR could be tricky. It's very difficult to believe that no one thought it might be a good idea to have some kind of backup input device that someone off stage could have used to kick off the damn slide show.

    From the FA: "Sure, we could have had two Media Centers, but we wanted to show it all running off the same Media Center as a hub." This strikes me as classic misdirection. Like it would be utterly impossible to have one Media Center with two different input devices.

    As I see it, either something more went wrong and this story was concocted to cover it up, or the whole team behind the presentation deserves to be fired for missing something so pitifully obvious.

    I rather suspect the former.

    I did enjoy watching Bill sit there all hunched over in his big cushy chair pecking away at the remote control. His plastic smile unwavering, even through Conan's "who's in charge of Mircosoft" comment. And then that weird comment about only having one remote control? No, Bill, it wouldn't be worse to have serveral remote controls, if they were for devices that actually *worked*.

  36. Re:Not IR remotes... by Ian+Jefferies · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've seen IR sensors saturated by bright sunlight fail to capture signals. On a live stage those overhead lights would probably have the same effect.

    What happens is that the IR sensor signal is analysed for changes in amplitude (delta) rather than absolute signal level. If bright light saturates the dynamic range of the sensor then delta changes become smaller and smaller in absolute size and a delta falls below detection threshold.

    Putting something over the IR sensor to cast a shadow would probably have been good enough.

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  37. Re:Actually, WinXP 64bit runs like crap... by Your+Average+Joe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Versions of Windows that have failed utterly:

    Windows NT 3.5 for MIPS processors
    Windows NT 3.51 for Power PC processors
    Windows NT 4.0 for Alpha processors
    Windows XP for the Itanium processor

    Why? No one would write any software for these NEW NON-Intel compatible hardware platforms. Not even MS Office. Yes there was one version of Office for a RISC platform, Office 4.2 for the Alpha.

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  38. Massve cover up! by Cow007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How does a power failure cause a blue screen of death and how does a usb booster cause infrared interference? His "explanations" really don't make any sense at all and seem to be distracting blame from the products that failed onto things that had little to nothing to do with it. Don't fall for this blog article it is obviously part of a coverup as to what really happened.

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  39. A Wedding Story by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Speaking of technical glitches when it matters most, here's a quick story of a wedding I was running sound for (not something I normally do, but I was drafted).

    I had the various wedding songs in mp3 format on my Dell notebook. I'd been given the cue that the bride was ready to make her entrance, so as soon as I started the Bridal March she would enter. I was just about to click Play on my notebook when it gives a siren-like sound (not out of the soundcard / line out, but out of some internal speaker) and turns itself off.

    Now fortunately (extremely) for me I had copied the songs onto a CF card, so I popped it into my Pocket PC, plugged it into the soundboard, and the wedding began. There was maybe a 20-30 second delay which no-one even noticed.

    After the wedding I found the problem. The HDD was somehow not well seated, and the alarm was the BIOS saying the HDD had failed. I popped it out and re-seated it and everything was fine.

    I had used that notebook at least 8 hours a day, every day, for 3 years and it had never done that before.

    Dan East

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  40. Re:Teleprompter? by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Funny
    this is an ooooooold joke from back when soviet russia was the funniest thing around:
    http://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=71358&ci d=6647090


    Q: How can you tell an extroverted computer geek from an introverted computer geek?
    A: The introverted computer geek will look at his shoes while he talks to you. The extroverted computer geek will look at your shoes while he talks to you.

    Q: How do you tell if an Extroverted computer geek is Russian?
    A: His shoes look at you while he is talking.

    I about died laughing when i first saw this, but your mileage will vary.

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  41. The machine running Forza BSOD'd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The machine that was running Forza was the one that had a BSOD. It wasn't running on an X-Box because the X-Box doesn't have a BSOD, it has a green screen of death. Either that or some developer thought it was funny to make errors in the game look like a BSOD, in which case he picked the wrong time for a joke :)