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World of Warcraft Shatters Sales Records

Mightydos writes " An interesting article was posted on Blizzard.com today... They say World of Warcraft® has sold through more than 600,000* units to customers in North America, Australia, and New Zealand. The fastest-growing massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) has also shattered all previous concurrency records in North America, achieving over 200,000 simultaneous players during the holiday period. "

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  1. Where's the linux client by Trigun · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll make it 600,001!

    (Do you think that's enough incentive?)

  2. Zerg rush. by 1019 · · Score: 2, Informative

    "...has also shattered all previous concurrency records in North America, achieving over 200,000 simultaneous players during the holiday period..."

    All of them hacking and slashing mindlessly their way through Diab^H^H^H^H World of Warcraft.

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  3. Shattered records by bynary · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I just love it when these new "records" are shattered. Saying that a new game sold more than an old game is like saying "The world now has more people in that ever. This shatters the all-time record set yesterday."

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    1. Re:Shattered records by wankledot · · Score: 2
      Much like "more people voted for Bush than any other president in history!"

      They don't bother to mention that the #2 vote-getter in history was the person he was running against. When more people play/vote on he whole the number of people playing/voting for any one item goes up. Who would have thought!

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    2. Re:Shattered records by kwerle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Worth noting that EQ2 was released just a few weeks before. An established brand that already did MMO, and that it was the most popular one for some time. So, yes, it is worth noting.

    3. Re:Shattered records by Pofy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, one can call it some grinding, but then, killing once you explore new areas is hardly grinding, and and very often found myself having to just kill to level so I could do new quests. Usually there were alternatives, like visiting completely new areas.

      I am the type who like to do all quests though, even if I am way above in level to get anything out of it. I actually like to see the story that is many times told through the quest series and such, gives a background to each area, what has happened there.

      Despite livig in Europe, I was able to play all beta (but had very little time all fall) and I think they have added many new quests and even lower level areas have been polished and worked on to have more of things in them, so even if there were some gaps of levels were you had very little in the quest way, I think that should be gone now with very little grinding actually needed, as long as one is willing to travell arround.

  4. Re:Unbelievable by JPriest · · Score: 2, Informative

    Counter strike is not a MMORPG

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  5. Re:Why is this news? by jspectre · · Score: 2, Insightful

    mmorg's are new? did you just land on our planet here? i've been on muds for 13 years or so.

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  6. One of my pet peeves by antifoidulus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    when people use a * without qualifying what the * means, now I am going to go crazy trying to figure it out!

    1. Re:One of my pet peeves by funny-jack · · Score: 4, Informative

      I hate to say it--wait, no, I don't. RTFA:

      *Based on internal company records and reports from key distribution partners in North America.

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  7. 600,000*???? by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4, Funny
    600,000* units! Wow!

    That could be 600,000,600,000,600,000,600,000,600,000,600,000 units--or even more! Simply astounding!

    (Of course, it could also be no units sold...)

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  8. Mac and PC by QueenOfSwords · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hopefully the hybrid PC/Mac CD helped things along and other developers take note.

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  9. Anyone know by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How this compares to the sales or HL2 or Doom3?

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    1. Re:Anyone know by bay43270 · · Score: 4, Informative

      How this compares to the sales or HL2 or Doom3?

      A quick google search shows that Halo 2 sold 2.38 million units in its first 24 hours

    2. Re:Anyone know by Traa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't know how it compares to the sales of HL2 of Doom3. But here is my quicky take on how the game stacks up against said FPS's.

      Doom3:
      + Finished the singleplayer in ~1 week
      + Neat graphics (I create 3D graphics hardware..'neat' is only barely a compliment)
      + The only game of the 3 that was scary. Really scary. In a paranoid kind of way.
      + 20 hours of gameplay for $49.95
      - Can't imaging ever touching this game again now that I am done.
      - No interesting multiplayer.
      - Unbelievable resource hog.

      HL2:
      + Finished the single player in ~3 weeks
      + Awesome graphics 'abilities'
      + Really neat physics
      + Decent AI
      + 60 hours gameplay for $49.95
      - Hardly any interesting multiplayer yet.
      - Gameplay wasn't refreshing enough to keep me promoting it beyond 'technologically advanced engine'.

      WoW:
      + Started playing from day 1. Have not stopped.
      ++ Though technologically not as advanced, the graphics in WoW are by far the best of the 3 games. 3 words: content, content, content. After two months I still find new areas where I just stop and look around for a while with my mouth hanging open. That good.
      +++ 200+ hours gameplay for $49.95 + ~$14/month.
      - Real Life (tm) takes a hit. Seriously, if you can't afford getting addicted, you should just not get this game yet.

    3. Re:Anyone know by BTWR · · Score: 2, Funny

      oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (waves hands around in a "spooky" manner)

    4. Re:Anyone know by shokk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I guess you can consider an XBox Live subscription free if you ignore the money you exchanged for it.

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  10. Thank the mac users by Teese · · Score: 4, Funny

    All 10 of us helped shatter the record! If this isn't proof enough of why games should be simultaneously released for mac and pc's users then I don't know what is.

    (yes this is a joke, don't worry about it. All mac users, I know there are more than 10 of you out there. and PC users, I know that the pitiful amount of macusers in the game didn't make much of a difference in sales numbers)

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    1. Re:Thank the mac users by SpiffyMarc · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'll toss my hat in the ring. I decided early on, before I knew much about World of Warcraft, that it would be the MMORPG that I played, if I played any, because Blizzard was doing a hybrid Mac/PC version with release for both on the same day.

      As a Mac user, I am a member of a vocal minority, and I felt like it's my duty to reward companies who take this kind of a proactive stance for my platform of choice. :-)

    2. Re:Thank the mac users by Bombcar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, the Mac users can make a big difference. If one group of people has one mac user, then they're likely to pick the game they all can play, in this case, WoW.

  11. Re:Why is this news? by albn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am pretty surprised at this article with the other online games that have an insane following like Final Fantasy, Everquest or StarCraft, one would think those or other games would have sold more.

    Also, the data is obscure because I do not know as compares to what: Games in general, in a certain amount ot time, etc.

    Oh well, congrats to Blizzard.

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  12. WoW is brilliant by hsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    not only do they get 600,000 people buying the game, they have a constant revenue stream coming in every month of what $15/user?

    that works out to be a lot of cash over a year, brilliant!

    1. Re:WoW is brilliant by Swamii · · Score: 3, Funny

      600,000 users * $15 per user * 12 months = 108,000,000

      say it with me, more than <pinky at corner of mouth> ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS

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    2. Re:WoW is brilliant by Seumas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      has also shattered all previous concurrency records in North America, achieving over 200,000 simultaneous players during the holiday period. "

      200,000 simultaneous players sounds like a lot, until you remember that it's split up over 88 servers. 2,500 players per server is not a record. Wake me up when you have a game that manages to have all 200,000 concurrent players participating in the same exact instance of the same exact universe.

      Also, remember that most of those 600,000 people will not stick with the game. For many, it will be frustrating or they'll get bored after leveling one or two characters up. I say 300,000 subscribers by the end of 2005.

    3. Re:WoW is brilliant by Inconnux · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My guess is that when the next 'big thing' mmorpg comes along over half of these subscribers will cancel their accounts. Something ive observed is that most people who play these games jump from game to game. EQ1 had such a large user base because when it came out it was almost the only game in town. I remember when city of heroes came out, the servers were bogged down, now theyre pretty sparcely populated. Most people quit after a couple of months. I remember when EQ1 had exact numbers of people on each server, funny when i started to notice fewer people playing, this feature was taken away...


      personally ive played many of these games and they are almost all the same, simplistic and boring after a couple of months.

  13. So I should expect patches now? by asoap · · Score: 4, Interesting
    600,000 * $15 a month = $9,000,000 a month in monthly services charges. With that much money, there should be no reason that I repeatedly run into server problems, such as lag, or having the server kick me for no reason.

    I know that this doesn't garuntee you a perfect gaming experience. But common... For the amount of money they are making, I shouldn't be running into simple problems, such as my character drowning while I'm out of the water, because the server decides to take a nap.

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    1. Re:So I should expect patches now? by cleverhandle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'll be interested to see how this plays out over the next few months. On one hand, it does seem like quite a rip-off. But on the other hand, I understand that business is business and that's no execs are going to be devoting serious man-hours to maintaining a free online service when people have already paid their money.

      $15 feels a little steep to me, but I would have gladly paid $5 or $10 per month for Bliz to maintain BNet for Diablo 2, rather than let the prepubescent dupers and spammers turn it into the cesspool it's become. When you're talking about playing a game for months or years rather than buying something new for ~$50 every month or so, that monthly cost doesn't seem quite so bad.

      Still, as you said, they had better do a damn good job of it now - money is certainly no longer an excuse.

    2. Re:So I should expect patches now? by llefler · · Score: 3, Informative

      Everytime I mention bugs or lag, I get told that they don't exist. This is from the fanbois of course, you get no response from Blizzard. The bugs must not exist.

      Having played since launch, I've had the pleasure of experiencing all the problems. Fortunately, I picked one of the servers added a couple days after launch, so despite having a high population, I haven't seen a queue since November. Even so, bugs that require you to log out before you can stand up and needing to travel through IF from time to time has got me wondering if I shouldn't just stop playing for a few months. I moved my subscription back to monthly, and I think if at least some of the smaller (but extremely annoying, like mining) bugs aren't fixed, I'll just unsubscribe for a while. I have plenty of work I can do around the house to keep busy...

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  14. Shattered lives by MasterJeff · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Drugs of the future here today. Many people can moderate themselves but it is sad how many lives get destroyed by MMORPG's.

  15. Divorces Shatter All-time Record by krbvroc1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hundreds of thousands of WOW Widows have filed for divorce.

    In other news, eHarmony is offering a new 'replace my mate' match service; online gamesplayers are banned from signing up for the service.

    1. Re:Divorces Shatter All-time Record by mal3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      On that same subject I was in a Wendy's the other day and 2 girls walked in who were roughly 18-23. Not unattractive, but not supermodels either. I overheard part of their conversation which went something like "I wanna be a night elf Druid", "I wanna be a Tauren shaman", etc.

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  16. A friendly reminder. by Sheetrock · · Score: 4, Informative

    Have we forgotten already? Money talks, you know.

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    1. Re:A friendly reminder. by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not that we forgot, we just don't care.

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    2. Re:A friendly reminder. by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hahahh its sad that you the first person to even point out the two-faced nature of Slashdotters in this thread. This really should have been a first or near first post issue.

      Fortunately with me there is no moral qualm since I never thought Blizzard was in the wrong on the Bnetd case to begin with.

      (goes and loads up WarCraft III)

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    3. Re:A friendly reminder. by krbvroc1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Give most people a fun game, killer app, or something free and all of a sudden privacy, rights, and legalities vaporize.

    4. Re:A friendly reminder. by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not that they vaporize, it's that

      1. Some people don't know about the problem.

      2. Some people know about the problems but don't care enough about them to outweigh the benefit of the game (to them).

      3. Some people know about the problems, care enough about it, but are too few in numbers to make a difference.

      In other words, market forces.

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  17. Impressive! by Telastyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not the sales numbers [though they are certainly nice] or the concurrency numbers [though they are certainly a good explination for the reported server instability] but put the two together... If 1/3 of your reported playerbase is actually playing rather than doing anything else in the world, that's a pretty good sign that it's a good/addictive game.

  18. Been playing it on linux for almost a month... by Shazow · · Score: 4, Informative
    I've been playing it on linux for almost a month, using WineX. Works great. It crashes occasionally but I'm betting that's my videocard's drivers' fault (ATI victim here). Otherwise, no lag what-so-ever.

    Highly recommended.

    - shazow

    1. Re:Been playing it on linux for almost a month... by Aadain2001 · · Score: 2, Informative

      For me (Linux, Cedega, and WoW user) I was easily able to install and run WoW with Cedega on Fedora Core 3. Needed to make a few changes to my system to get good performance, but it's pretty easy to do. The installation program will error out at the very end of installation, but that didn't effect the game at all.

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    2. Re:Been playing it on linux for almost a month... by PierceLabs · · Score: 2, Informative

      And Mac users too. There is also a problem that Blizzard won't acknowledge where upon accepting quests the client/server pair send packets that reset cable/dsl modems disconnecting you from the internet.

    3. Re:Been playing it on linux for almost a month... by Aadain2001 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Basic stuff you have to do to run Windows games under FC3: turn off prelinking (easy), turn on legacy VA memory layout (easy) and disable exec-shield (easy).

      The other changes were like using version 6111 of the nvidia drivers instead of 6629 (performance issues), enabling SBA and Fast Writes, etc, all to improve card performance (which benifits all games!). Also had to use openGL instead of D3D rendering in the game (adding -opengl switch to launcher) to increase FPS again.

      There is only really one bug with WoW under Cedega and openGL: you can't have the minimap open when you go into a building or dungeon. The screen goes blank when you do and you have to kill the game at the command line. You can bypass this by running the game in D3D, but then it runs slower. I choose to just remember to close my minimap before going into buildings or dungeons.

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    4. Re:Been playing it on linux for almost a month... by Shazow · · Score: 2, Informative

      I installed it from under linux. No real trouble.

      - shazow

    5. Re:Been playing it on linux for almost a month... by nuggetman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Basic stuff you have to do to run Windows games under FC3: turn off prelinking (easy), turn on legacy VA memory layout (easy) and disable exec-shield (easy).

      The other changes were like using version 6111 of the nvidia drivers instead of 6629 (performance issues), enabling SBA and Fast Writes, etc, all to improve card performance (which benifits all games!). Also had to use openGL instead of D3D rendering in the game (adding -opengl switch to launcher) to increase FPS again.


      sheesh, is that all? god, it's a wonder desktop linux hasn't taken the gaming world by storm!

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    6. Re:Been playing it on linux for almost a month... by Upaut · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It took me three days to get Everquest working on my linux box.

      I gave up after three days trying to get the EQ2 beta to work.

      I got World of Warcraft to work in three Hours.
      Now, as those that know me can attest, I am horribly inept in linux. I just screw around with it because I like trying to learn new things (and I hate Microsoft with a passion). So I am not, *ahem* "1337", like many of you slashdot readers, but come on, if it took me a fraction of the time to figure out how to install it on my Mandrake box (with wineX), Blizzard is doing something very right.

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  19. Pissed off users by schmobag · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Despite the success, not all is well in the WoW. Some of those 600,000 users are pretty pissed about some employees inappropriately using their influence in-game.

  20. Wait for the longevity though... by NeedleSurfer · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been playin the game constantly recently, I'm hooked, totaly but there are several flaws that will make me stop playing soon, I feel it.

    1-Each and every map has a quest serie that goes a little something like this: get a lady ingredient for a pie, find a guys tools, ((kill x monsters of this type, bring x items of this type) x 6), kill the Bosses (3), go in far away land to retrieve item or give item to someone -- repeat

    2-Although common to uncommon mineral (I can't speak for other ressources yet) is fair and balanced considering the amount needed to construct items as your profession evolve, the uncommon to rare ratio is ultimately ridiculous. It took me 3 days to get 6 silver ore which were needed by countless recipes of which the effect is totaly disproportionnal of the work you put in finding the ressources for its construction.

    3-The profession and skills and talent system is extremely unrewarding, it take so much time to get 1% bonus in two-hand weapon damage, very ridiculous, by the time you can build a bomb that does x damage it barely removes a hint on the health bar of the creature it targets and so on...

    All in all what makes this game exquisite isnt the gameplay in itself, the single move battle system and capacity to walk trough others are perfect example of that, but the sheer pleasure that you have in discovering the lands and realizing missions with others, plus the game is very well designed as far as encouraging people to be nice and helpfull to one another and just that is worth a lot in my opinion. It won't keep me paying for more than 1-2 maybe 3 month though, so I don't believe the game longevity will be that impressive.

  21. Some things that helped by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a copy of WoW, and it's probably the first MMRPG that I've played that I've enjoyed. I tried Ultima when it came out, Anarchy later, and some others - but WoW has me.

    Why?

    1. Attention to detail. Ever played a game and thought "You know, this would be better if I could do X"? Well, here it is. X is 99% of the time right in WoW. Chat - easy. Macros - simple. Able to compare what you have with what you want to buy - just hover the mouse over the item.

    2. Mac/PC compatible. I know, I know - Mac's only include 4% of the "new computers sold" base or some such. But I know several Unix geeks who got Macs just so they could play some games on them (as opposed to Linux, which is even less native ports than for the Mac). So after the kids are in bed, I can sit in the living room with my Powerbook and play the same game my friends are playing in my living room.

    3. Performance: you don't need a brand spanking new computer to play. It helps, of course, but I know a guy with a 867 Mhz Powerbook who plays without missing anything.

    4. Ease for newbies and oldies alike: Even on PvP servers, you can be a newbie and be fine. Do you lose money for dying? No. Experience? No. Just inconvience (and maybe a little equipment damage, but that's easily repaired). Once Blizzard has the true battle areas in place to stage "wars", there will be a place for those who want to kill other people to head off to.

    If you're an oldie, there's lots to do as well. Elite dungeons that you share with your direct friends, not everybody and their brother (so you don't have to worry about waiting forever for some particular monster to respawn - your group and your group alone will get the chance to get him in your custom dungeon).

    Most of the time the game is as hard as you want it to be. I usually challenge creatures 2-3 levels above me, where it's "hard but fair". I like that it's pretty fair. If I fail, it's because I wasn't watching what I was doing, not because some arbitrary bit got flipped that said it was my day to die.

    Is it perfect? No - I do wish they'd let clerics wear leather (especially as their attacks are underpowered, which is why I switched to a Hunter), and the respawn is almost too fast (there's been a few times I'd died because I was fighting a monster, got it down to 99% dead, then a new monster spawn right on top of me and killed me before I could run off - would be nice to have a 10 second countdown before they started attacking), but otherwise, it's close enough to perfect to make it the only MMRPG that I'll play.

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I need go hunt some wolves so I can learn to make Lean Wolf Steaks....

    1. Re:Some things that helped by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Probably because he's someone with an addictive personality, and has no life.

      I have a job, wife, three kids, bills, and training, so I have to budget my time. So, I just remove the time I'd spend watching TV and play instead.

      Sounds like your friend needs an intervention. And I'm being mostly serious on that - get the man a damned life.

  22. Guild Wars by twoes00 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I gave WoW a try during its final open beta and liked it just enough... However, once the Guild Wars world preview event came along, I was instantly hooked! I played the GW E3 Event and enjoyed it, but the WPE really displayed the game's potential. Not only is it free of monthly charges, but it takes away the whole "grinding" concept of MMORPGs. Its quite difficult to describe it, but it seems like the most (dare I say) innovating games of the year. www.guildwars.com

  23. Um asterisk? by kaedemichi255 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Um what's the asterisk for? If you're gonna post an article and simply copy + paste the article text into your submission, at the very least re-read it and make sure it makes sense. I wish I could mod an entire submission DOWN...

  24. Re:Sold out everywhere? by lscotte · · Score: 3, Funny

    Driving around town to the various stores looking for the game is a strange real world counterpart to a quest in the game. You mission is go search for this box and bring it back to the computer. I've met other people at the stores also looking for WoW, usually staring at an empty slot on the shelf, "yeah, it's supposed to be right here".

    You just have to wait long enough for the game box to respawn on the store shelves. Usually it only takes a few minutes. Did you also talk to the guy at the store with the big yellow "!" over his head first?

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  25. Re:Did it shatter by ryepup · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think he's referring to Blizzard's official updater using BitTorrent, not pirating the game. More info

  26. Blizzard vs. Bnetd by bonch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, 600,000. So, I take it we're all over the Bnetd fiasco then?

  27. Re:Good, but couldn't they do better? by ARRRLovin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They have 600,000 reasons not to change.

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  28. EQII vs Wow by shaka999 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I bought EQII first. After quickly getting bored I managed to find a copy of Wow (no small task).

    Wow pretty much creams EQII in every way. The only people I've heard differ are hard-core EQ players. Many people do like the EQII graphics better but personally i like the more cartoonish Wow look.

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  29. Re:Call me jaded, but... by Scherf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You Forgot the crucial step: Have a track record of developing excellent games and supporting them forever.
    Seriously, there are a lot of people who would buy any game from Blizzard without even having heard anything about it before (including me), because they know they will get an almost perfect gaming experience.
    I bet there are a lot of people among the 600.000 that have never before payed a monthly fee for any game (including me, as soon as it's released in Germany).

  30. WoW shatters several MMO myths, too by keath_milligan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In addition to sales and concurrency records, Blizzard is also shattering several long-held MMORPG industry myths - including a few of SOE's favorite sacred cows:

    Myth #1 - an MMORPG must include numerous "time sinks"; long periods of unrewarding time spent with little or no character progression.

    In the series of interviews recently posted where Raph Koster conspicuously omits any mention of WoW, you can almost hear his exasperated sighs as he laments the lack of opportunity to socialize in newer games because the action is so fast. If you want to chat, log into a chat system. Most of the rest of us would like to spend our limited gaming hours killing things and having fun, not waiting for shuttles or running around endlessly looking for things to fight.

    Myth #2 - character death in an MMORPG must be a harsh, demoralizing experience.

    Go read some of the discussions on this in SOE's forums. It's pretty amazing to think that a software company can entertain a serious discussion regarding intentionally "punishing" their users/players.

    Myth #3 - MMOG design must be driven by a philosophy that is inherently different than conventional games [insert lots of grandiose game theory and virtual world talk here].

    Bullshit. I'm sure Raph Koster is a brilliant guy and he has a lot of interesting ideas, but at some point you need to pull your head out of the clouds and remember that above all else, a game has to be fun to play.

    Myth #4 - any new MMORPG must feature a complex, impossible-to-balance skill-based (non) "class" system.

    Again, bullshit. WoW's simple, single-track class system is easy to understand and is well-balanced for both PVE and PVP (the usual nerf-calling notwithstanding).

    Myth #5 - the fantasy MMORPG market is "saturated".

    This seems to be the industry's favorite crutch - the notion that everyone who will ever play an MMOG is already playing one and that the "long, hard grind" model (EQ, DAoC, SWG, etc.) is the only kind of game those players want. Again, bullshit. WoW is cracking the market wide open and bringing a flood of new players who have never before touched an MMOG. To be fair here though, I think this one is at least partially true, the market *is* saturated when it comes to EQ-style treadmills.

    Where other MMOs have seen subscription numbers flat-line after release (SWG, DAoC) or decline (AC), expect to see WoW break new records in the future. This isn't just because of the legions of D2 players migrating over or the Warcraft name - those things help, but they're not the whole story. With WoW, their first and only entry into the market, Blizzards "gets' what the others don't: a successful game is not about lofty "game theory" or grand visions, it's simply about having fun.

    The writing is on the wall: fun is in, the grind is out.

  31. No, there are not 200,000 concurrent players by bugnuts · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone that played from the beginning knows damn well there aren't that many concurrent players, unless you count those:
    Waiting in the queue to login
    Disconnected and unable to logout
    Stuck doing a search in the auction house
    Stuck waiting the insane time to extract an item from your mail
    Running around a continent with no mobs or gryphons
    etc.

    Yes, I'm being overly-sarcastic, but there is a real hint of truth. In all fairness, Blizzard has solved the bulk of the problems they had at launch... and they even extended subscriptions three days and a fourth later for the downtime. I just happen to be on a "lemon" server that was undergoing horrid lag and restarts for weeks. I would've changed servers if I didn't run a guild with nearly 200 unique accounts in it!

    WoW doesn't do a whole lot new for MMORPGs, but it has taken many elements from different games and done them right. Huge number of quests that have lots of fun NPC interaction, mobs to grind if you like, cool items (almost as good as AC), immersive graphics with an attention to detail, great sound, a great intro movie, large world, seamless movement between most zones, nice crafting system comparable to horizons, decent pvp (can't block other players, though -- you walk right through), etc.

    A couple of new things are the fog of war, gryphons (kind of new, as they show the "real" server as you fly -- you can see fights and monsters, and not just a picture of you moving), and an extensible user interface (missing a desired function? you can program it yourself in a "real" language).

    In conclusion, WoW had a rocky start. It wasn't as bad as some games (AO and SWG were pretty horrid) and it wasn't as good as some (AC and CoH were great). It was kind of crappy, in fact. But they quickly announced that billing wouldn't even start because of the downtime, and they kicked ass on fixing the biggest issues on a live system with 200,000 whiny folks complaining about it. And then there was me, not whining of course. :-)

  32. Re:Why is this news? by Lurgen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This isn't a new genre - Everquest, Ultima Online, Diablo (no servers, but still MMORPG), There, Star Wars Galaxies, EQ2, and many more have been here first. If you want to get technical, I was playing MMORPGs well over 10 years ago in the form of MUDs.

    EQ was considered revolutionary at the time, with piles of Slashdot articles talking about the addictive nature of the game, the scale of the world, the ugly UI yet immersive gameplay... this is nothing new.

    As an interesting thing to note, Blizzard doesn't need to make stuff like this up just now. You can't get a hold of World of Warcraft in the stores for love nor money in many cities, and it's plain to see they're struggling under the load of players. More people jumped into this game than anybody anticipated, and Blizzard are usually pretty good at figuring out this sort of stuff. My guess is they're as shocked as we all are. I'm even thinking Blizzard deliberately controlled the release of copies of the game so the player load arrived gradually instead of all at once.