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Texas Goes After Student Spammer

A number of people wrote in with this story: "Count Texas in the growing list of states fighting spammers with CAN-SPAM. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott filed the lawsuits today, charging a University of Texas student (and a cohort in California) with sending out millions of unsolicited commercial emails under the pseudonyms PayPerAction and Leadplex, among others. Spamhaus rates PayPerAction the #4 spammers in the world."

161 comments

  1. Better not mess with Texas by elecngnr · · Score: 4, Funny

    They still have the death penalty in Texas, right?

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    1. Re:Better not mess with Texas by isometrick · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're telling me! I was just sitting on the can reading Slashdot, and right after the words "Texas Goes After Student ..." I was running out the door flailing with a trail of TP dragging behind me.

      I didn't specifically remember doing anything wrong, but the targeting of the title was a bit too close for my brain in the early morning!

      Damn you, "a number of people", damn you to hell!

    2. Re:Better not mess with Texas by SpongeBobLinuxPants · · Score: 0

      "Some states are eliminating the death penalty. Our state's putting in an express lane."

    3. Re:Better not mess with Texas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      You don't even need the official death penalty. Texas still has the "Needed Killin'" defense for homicide.

      Police: "Why did you shoot him?"
      Guy with gun: (shrug) "Needed killin'"
      Police: "Ok then. Off you go."

    4. Re:Better not mess with Texas by tdhillman · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but if he's white he'll be fine.

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    5. Re:Better not mess with Texas by quarkscat · · Score: 1

      Hells bells!

      Why even wait for some stupid drawn out trial?
      All any good Texan needs is a length of rope
      and a sturdy cottonwood tree ...
      It's not called "Texas Justice" for nothing.

    6. Re:Better not mess with Texas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have a computer in the bathroom? Talk about luxury.

    7. Re:Better not mess with Texas by Coke+in+a+Can · · Score: 1

      When you're a student without rich parents, the computer room is the bathroom.

    8. Re:Better not mess with Texas by isometrick · · Score: 1

      It's just a modern day version of reading a newspaper in the bathroom man: a laptop with wifi.

  2. How to end Spam... by ralphart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The answer seems simple; get politicians' email addresses on spammers' lists. Once they feel our pain, they'll do something.

    Probably something stupid.

    1. Re:How to end Spam... by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Informative

      Except no politician ever reads his own mail. They have secretaries to filter it for them, so they've no idea about the scope of the spam problem.

    2. Re:How to end Spam... by gosand · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The answer seems simple; get politicians' email addresses on spammers' lists. Once they feel our pain, they'll do something.


      1. They probably don't read their own email, if they have an email address. Their families probably do though, which leads to...


      2. In the words of Napoleon Dynamite..."they probably already ARE!" I think it is fairly safe to assume that if you have an email address, you get spam. Period.


      I think that they just have bigger fish to fry.

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    3. Re:How to end Spam... by Halo- · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Actually, most politicians have "secret" personal accounts as well. My wife used to work at capital in DC. The main $congressman@house.gov account is monitored by staff, but there is usually also something nondescript like rxq223@house.gov which goes to them personally.

      You'd also be amazed how many people you have heard of are reachable at some simple variation of $theirname@yahoo.com. When I was helping add a candidate's address book into a database, I had to keep asking if certain entries were a joke. (e.g. "you're kidding, I can mail Janet Reno at janetreno@yahoo.com and it's really her?!?")

      (obviously I made all the email addresses in this post up, so don't try mailing them... :) )

    4. Re:How to end Spam... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      <sarcasm>
      But what could possibly be bigger then reducing Spam.

      It's not like politicians are debating the War in Iraq, social security reform, election reform, trying to hash out a budget, or any other such import issue all day. I mean they just sit around all day doing nothing so I definitely think the top priority of the House, Senate, and President should be a new law that stops the spread of Spam forever. In fact, we should refuse to let them discuss anything else until they pass one.

      </sarcasm>
    5. Re:How to end Spam... by SilverspurG · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think it is fairly safe to assume that if you have an email address, you get spam. Period.

      But you shouldn't. It's a clear violation of consumer protection laws.

      Take real world spam: junk mail. I've lived in my current location for less than one year. I've purposely misspelled my address on a number of forms (Holyhock instead of Hollyhock) just so that I could monitor junk mail. I have given the misspelled address to only a handful of places: three banks and my insurance carrier. I asked all of them, at the point of signup, if they share their databases with anyone else. The answer, of course, has always been "no". Guess what? I'm receiving junk mail at "Holyhock".

      Electronic spam is no different. If you're getting spam it's because someone has violated their agreement not to share your information with anyone else.

      Too bad the existing laws don't work for us--and new ones won't do any better.

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    6. Re:How to end Spam... by asqui · · Score: 1

      Now consider that the overhead of spam probably ends up costing more than what the RIAA and MPAA claim piracy is costing them. (or at least what it's *actually* costing them, if anything)

    7. Re:How to end Spam... by kjamez · · Score: 1

      my dog was pre approved for a $50,000 credit limit from citibank, which seems strange, because he doesn't have a social security number ...

      even more strange, how did his name get on a mailing list? probably my dad's fault ... he signed me up for the republican national committee newsletter. i get all the 'i [heart] gop' cards and pamphelts. no so much anymore, but pre-election is was pretty bad.

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    8. Re:How to end Spam... by Smallpond · · Score: 1

      I got pre-approved by Citibank for a $15,000 card and applied for the card but refused to give them my SSN, claiming they hadn't specified that it was required. They offered me a card with a $500 limit. So much for pre-approved.

      That wouldn't be high enough for my dog, though. He blew through $1200 one year on vet bills (broken leg). He's fine now. Has a stainless steel plate, so I probably can't fly coach with him.

    9. Re:How to end Spam... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is the P2P theory applied to spam. Since the overhead costs you nothing directly (unless you pay per byte) and is spread over many carriers (mostly big corporation) there really isn't any overhead at all. And certainly not any though could eat at the bottom line as how can you say that the overhead would not have been used anyway if the spammers didn't use it.

    10. Re:How to end Spam... by eander315 · · Score: 1
      In the last US national election, several of the politicians running for office sent their own spam.

      Until spam starts costing them money personally, or they feel they might lose a significant number of votes over it, our politicians will do nothing of consequence in regards to spam.

    11. Re:How to end Spam... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that they just have bigger fish to fry.

      Or maybe they are trying to get a good long-term solution instead of a quick knee-jerk solution that does more harm than good long-term.

      Nevermind. I've been reading too much fantasy lately.

    12. Re:How to end Spam... by berzerke · · Score: 1

      Actually, the laws target commercial spam. Political spam is exempt. One guess as to why.

    13. Re:How to end Spam... by SewersOfRivendell · · Score: 1
      That's hardly sarcasm. If Congress actually bothered to have real debates instead of rubber-stamping Bush's fundamentalist follies, don't you think the country would be less beholden to China right now?

      And no, the Democrats aren't any better. They're still fucking afraid to grow a pair and actually stand up for what's right.

      Troll rate me, my bitches, see if I care! I use a Mac, too, so you can rate me for that also!

  3. Book em, Danno. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

    I'd like to know what this kid's major was. And, "Ryan Pitylak?" I'm definately lacking pity.

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    1. Re:Book em, Danno. by garcia · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd like to know what this kid's major was.

      Obviously Business with an Ethics concentration.

    2. Re:Book em, Danno. by ralphart · · Score: 2, Insightful

      His major? Saw in the Dallas Morning News it was Philosophy. There's a sad joke somewhere in there.

    3. Re: Book em, Danno. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


      > I'd like to know what this kid's major was.

      And why he was in college if, as the news story suggested, he had raked in millions of dollars this way.

      Oh... maybe he needed access to the university's computers.

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    4. Re:Book em, Danno. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      German Shorthairs. Got a 3-year solid liver male, and a 7-month-old ticked female. He's a stunning natural talent, but a little too cocky, still (tends to hunt for himself sometimes). She's still a kid, and a total knuckle-head. Hard to find good hunting/training grounds without going broke in the DC area, so these things take time.

      And, you get the gold star for being the first slashdotter to actually say anything about that in my sig. You win! Um, no prize, actually, but you get my drift.

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    5. Re:Book em, Danno. by lbmouse · · Score: 1

      I'd like to know what this kid's major was

      Probably a PoliSci major. Spam, porn, and flipping burgers is the only way he'll ever make any money.

    6. Re:Book em, Danno. by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      German shorthairs are great dogs if you are in good enough shape to keep up with them. Old guys like me do better with a nice staid, methodical setter--although getting cockleburs and grass spurs out the coat is a pain to both.

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    7. Re:Book em, Danno. by sammaverick · · Score: 1

      He's a philosophy major at UT, with a junior standing. Ha, his email address is
      ryan@payperaction.com .

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    8. Re:Book em, Danno. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to the UT directory (directory.utexas.edu):

      Name Ryan Pitylak
      Ryan Samuel Pitylak
      Title Junior, Philosophy
      College/Department College of Liberal Arts
      E-Mail ryan@payperaction.com
      Home Phone +1 512-320-9930
      Home Address 2002a Guadalupe St # 290
      Austin, TX 78705-5609-02

      Again, this is gotten from simply putting his name in the directory.

    9. Re:Book em, Danno. by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      My wife says "GSP" stands for "Get in Shape Plan." You are so right, brother. They'll keep you hopping. Actually, it's better, now that we have two - they keep each other a little more wiped out, all the easier for us. In the field though, you'd better hope for close cover - because otherwise they'll think nothing of running full throttle for the nearest objective a half mile away. We're working on that!

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    10. Re:Book em, Danno. by grouse · · Score: 1

      He has allowed the university to publish his directory information which says he is a philosophy major.

    11. Re:Book em, Danno. by _w00d_ · · Score: 1

      He's an advertising major according to this blog: http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/003952.html

      Seems obvious now.

    12. Re:Book em, Danno. by imuffin · · Score: 1
    13. Re:Book em, Danno. by brkello · · Score: 1

      Finally, a job for a Philosophy major other than teaching Philosophy :)

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    14. Re:Book em, Danno. by nine-times · · Score: 1
      Old joke (told poorly):
      Q: What kind of training does being a philosophy major give you?
      A: It prepares you to think about being unemployed.
    15. Re:Book em, Danno. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, I don't have a problem with spammers getting nailed against the wall just like everyone else; but something just occurred to me:

      Why is it when this college kid breaks a law (spam), Slashdot is ready to fire him out of a cannon, but when a different college kid breaks a different law (DMCA, DVD CSS, Apple trade secret lawsuits, insert other offense here), they rush to his defense?

      I understand the whole "freedom of information" angle, but the law is still the law... until it is repealed and there is much rejoicing.

      Besides, maybe this spam asshat was just trying to spread the freedom of v!agr@ and the lowest m0rtg@g3 rates!

      (proceed to mod me into oblivion...
      ...wait for it...
      ....now.)

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    16. Re:Book em, Danno. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why is it when this college kid breaks a law (spam), Slashdot is ready to fire him out of a cannon, but when a different college kid breaks a different law (DMCA, DVD CSS, Apple trade secret lawsuits, insert other offense here), they rush to his defense?"

      The difference lies in the damage inflicted.

    17. Re:Book em, Danno. by Hittman · · Score: 1

      Why is it when this college kid breaks a law (spam), Slashdot is ready to fire him out of a cannon, but when a different college kid breaks a different law (DMCA, DVD CSS, Apple trade secret lawsuits, insert other offense here), they rush to his defense?

      Different victims. We are all victims of spam, so we love seeing the perpetrators brought to justice. (I think an appropriate sentence would be one minute of jail time for every spam they've sent, with no opportunity for parole.) The victims of violating the laws you cite are Big Nasty Corporations, who, in most cases, have been ripping off their customers and artists forever. Seeing them ripped off in turn is like hearing OJ was killed in a knife fight.

    18. Re:Book em, Danno. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      So, in further search of understanding, it's okay by you to break a law as long as that particular action doesn't effect you negatively?

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    19. Re:Book em, Danno. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck the law. Some things make sense and others don't.

    20. Re:Book em, Danno. by flakac · · Score: 1

      Actually, the jerk is a Junior majoring in "Philosophy"...

    21. Re:Book em, Danno. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slashdot readers, for the most part, don't appear to be interested in whether $action is legal or not; rather, they care whether it's moral or not.

      Spam, by the apparent consensus here, is never moral. Opposition to the DMCA and related laws is always moral. Sharing copyrighted material via P2P is at least debatable.

      Of course, this is a generalization, and all generalizations are false. Beyond that, this particular generalization is based on comments that get modded 3 or higher. Take it with a gram mole of NaCl :)

    22. Re:Book em, Danno. by Catmando · · Score: 1

      I looked up his info in the school directory and he is a junior philosophy major, and he lives down the street from me.

    23. Re:Book em, Danno. by monophaze · · Score: 1

      BTW, 2002A Guadalupe is a box at 'THE UPS STORE'. So, I don't think he lives there unless he is very tiny. ;)

      Name Ryan Pitylak
      Ryan Samuel Pitylak
      Title Junior, Philosophy
      College/Department College of Liberal Arts
      E-Mail ryan@payperaction.com
      Home Phone +1 512-320-9930
      Home Address 2002a Guadalupe St # 290
      Austin, TX 78705-5609-02

    24. Re:Book em, Danno. by OO7david · · Score: 1

      Heh, I really want to see an article about this in the texan on tuesday. Granted most won't care, but even 1% of 54000 is alot of miffing.

    25. Re:Book em, Danno. by d.hawk · · Score: 1
      You could always look in the UT DIRECTORY
      Name: Ryan Samuel Pitylak
      Title: Junior, Philosophy
      College/Department: College of Liberal Arts
      E-Mail: ryan@payperaction.com
      Home Phone: +1 512-320-9930
      Home Address: 2002a Guadalupe St # 290
      Austin, TX 78705-5609-02
    26. Re:Book em, Danno. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to the article, it's Advertising.
      According to UTexas.edu it's Philosophy:

      http://directory.utexas.edu:1760//uid%3D1531548460 %20%2B%20cn%3DRyan%20Samuel%20Pitylak%2Cou%3DColle ge%20of%20Liberal%20Arts%2Cou%3DStudents%2Co%3DThe %20University%20of%20Texas%20at%20Austin%2Cc%3DUS

      Ryan Pitylak
      Ryan Samuel Pitylak
      Junior, Philosophy
      College of Liberal Arts
      ryan@payperaction.com
      +1 512-320-9930
      2002a Guadalupe St # 290
      Austin, TX 78705-5609-02

    27. Re:Book em, Danno. by batemanm · · Score: 1
      Why is it when this college kid breaks a law (spam), Slashdot is ready to fire him out of a cannon, but when a different college kid breaks a different law (DMCA, DVD CSS, Apple trade secret lawsuits, insert other offense here), they rush to his defense?

      Because the members of slashdot are human. They bring thier own prejudices to thier opinions and decisions no matter how logical people think they are. There is an aspect of the crimes against DMCA, DVD, CSS, trade secrets benefits them so they are forgiveable where as the crimes against them are perform by low lifes that need to be wiped out. Boils down to a good old double standard.

  4. annoying, but not fatal by already_gone · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    probably rates as one of the least of yOUR concerns as a planet/population in decline. additional defocus from what the 'real crooks' are up to, which is murder & mayhem for profit.

    1. Re:annoying, but not fatal by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ah, another "we can't do more than one thing at a time" post. If we can seek to defend trees and whales and hungry people (and anything else "in decline," as you put it), all at the same time, why is defending the uncluttered use of the internet not viable? The rapid exchange of information, un-bogged-down by crap like spam, is a vital part of the productivity and efficiency that allows us the free time and resources to take care of "things in decline."

      Look! I'm typing, drinking coffee, watching news about landing on Titan, reading slashdot, petting my dog, and using the internet instead of burning gas driving to an office all at the same time. Wreck the net, and I'm back on the road.

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    2. Re:annoying, but not fatal by Atrax · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      you'll be modded OT for that, you know.

      While a lot of people would agree that yes, you may have a point, it's sometimes best to keep on the subject or run the risk of being called a yammering troll.

      myself, I'm holding judgement on CAN-SPAM until the verdicts are actually in. there's a lot of debate on how effective it may or may not be.

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    3. Re:annoying, but not fatal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the damage from murders, rapists, and such pales in comparison to that from corporate governance out of control, companies seeking profit above all else, militant extremists of all varieties. Spammers violate the public contract - and in doing so cause a tremendous amount of damage. Normally, I would recommend just shooting someone, putting them out of their misery - but in this case I would impale them and leave them to die a slow and worldwide televised death - as a warning to all of the other potential miscreants.

    4. Re:annoying, but not fatal by gorbachev · · Score: 1

      Theft is not fatal either, let's ignore that too.

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    5. Re:annoying, but not fatal by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Sure, why not. Or to a human with an equally low amount of insight. Either way, it was an opportunity to make a point that actually matters a wee bit. So, I did. There actually are plenty of people who post here in that vein ("why chase after poor college kids when there are hungry college kids in Asia?"), so, knowing that similarly silly people would read that post (synthesized or otherwise), thought I'd chime in. Silly me. But then, look! I got modded up.

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    6. Re:annoying, but not fatal by ScentCone · · Score: 0

      Wow, note the sarcasm when you see it, dude! Being modded and $3.00 will get me a cup of coffee. I get it.

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    7. Re:annoying, but not fatal by ScentCone · · Score: 0

      I guess I could make mod-baiting a new hobby. Actually, I don't care too much at all. I do seem to get hung up on lengthy bantering with a few select nitwits here, though. Character flaw on my part, and I should really know better.

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    8. Re:annoying, but not fatal by compro01 · · Score: 1

      when the 12yr old is bombarded with p0rn spam i hear you. i have had a personal vendetta against spammers since my sister started geting blasted with porn and "enlarge your dick" spam. ayone got some cruise missles i can launch at spammers houses?

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    9. Re:annoying, but not fatal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck.

      The irony!

      getting modded OT for telling someone they're OT.

    10. Re:annoying, but not fatal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bonus points for trolling

    11. Re:annoying, but not fatal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No not at the moment but you might try asking this guy.

    12. Re:annoying, but not fatal by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Well, see, that's just how productivity-boosting the internet is.

      Actually, it involves serial and pre-emptive multi-tasking. I'm not massively parallel. Yet.

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  5. Only 4th? by TFGeditor · · Score: 2, Funny

    "According to watchdog group SpamHaus, PayPerAction is the fourth-largest spam operation in the world."

    Only fourth? The boy can't be a native Texan, then. Must be a Yankee immigrant.

    (If you can't tell the difference between humor, flamebait, and troll, don't mod this.)

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    1. Re:Only 4th? by El+Torico · · Score: 2, Funny
      May favorite part of the article,

      Local resident Dewey Coffman received one too many spam e-mails and finally did something about it. He archived and forwarded spam messages over to the AG's Office. His main concern with spam in general for his children.

      "A lot of the pornography content is offensive and that is what has concerned me the most. You can't even let the kids in the room when your reading e-mail because some the spam contains that and it will flash up on your screen before you have a chance to get rid of it,- DADNABBIT" Coffman said.

      OK, I added the DADNABBIT part. Does anyone else think that Dewey Coffman must look like Eustis on 'Courage the Cowardly Dog'?

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    2. Re:Only 4th? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why such ignorance and malice towards Texans? You eat too much of the media's garbage. You could get the exact same statement from a parent in any state in the US (and probably any industrialized country, too). Or does the name Dewey just throw a twist in your panties?

    3. Re:Only 4th? by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking more like Slim Pickens.

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    4. Re:Only 4th? by lcsjk · · Score: 1

      When did that new spelling creep in? For over 30 years it has been DAGNABBIT. Not that anybody cares though. More coffee.

    5. Re:Only 4th? by The+Salamander · · Score: 2, Informative

      > Does anyone else think that Dewey Coffman must look like Eustis on 'Courage the Cowardly Dog'?

      They had him on the news last night (in Austin) and he looked like your average
      computer geek. Perhaps he'll post on /.?

      They also showed the spammers 400k+ house and beamer parked out front.

    6. Re:Only 4th? by hawk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only fourth? The boy can't be a native Texan, then. Must be a Yankee immigrant.

      Nah. THat's by quantity. These were *big* spams.

      err, about somethign supposedly big, at least.

      hawk

    7. Re:Only 4th? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      400k for a house is not a lot of money (though it is relative where you live), try spending 400k on a house in Morris County in Northern NJ, see what it gets you, perhaps a 2-bedroom house if your lucky.

  6. Is it just me... by CastrTroy · · Score: 0

    Is it just me, or does the CAN-SPAM act sound like something that would allow people to send out spam. Talk about picking a bad name for a good thing.

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    1. Re:Is it just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean, I've been misusing this list for all this time? Crap...

  7. PayPerAction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    do you see the irony that this guy really may end up having to pay per action?

    1. Re:PayPerAction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No I don't, actually.

      irony, n. - the effect of language in which the intended meaning is the opposite of what is stated.

      Isn't it ironic, dontcha think? - Alanis

  8. Two ways by AnonymousCowheart · · Score: 1

    There are two ways to see if you've been sent illegal spam: Check for misleading subject lines that are intended to trick people into opening them. Look for a Web page to submit contact information.
    Does all this damn V 1 A G R A email count as misleading? I think every spam message I get has some way to try and trick my filters.

    1. Re:Two ways by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, they figure if you don't want Viagra then you may be interested in their other products such as v14gr4 or V.!agri.a or ^i4.r4. Don't forget Cialias or C14l1$ or !4l1s soft tabs. My spam consists of someone advertising their porn webcam, shady pharmaceutical sales pitches, mortgages, and premium replica Rolex watches. They must think I have nothing better to do than buy a house and sit around taking viagara while jerking off to some slut's webcam and using my replica watch to alert me to when I should get up to get food.

    2. Re:Two ways by telemnar · · Score: 1

      I've recently been blessed with the opportunity to purchase valuable st0ck at a sharp discount! I am going to invest some of the millions of dollars I have already made helping those nice men from Nigeria with their banking problems.

    3. Re:Two ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, don't knock the lifestyle untill you try it!

    4. Re:Two ways by Nik13 · · Score: 1

      Right. I've always wondered why they spam this stuff: -How much "small guys" are out there that need "enlargements"? -People who need viagra can get it from their docs easily, and it's not that expensive at all (heck, the doctors offer them so much, it's almost annoying) Pain killers are harder to get and cost more, but I doubt they're cheap illegally (or do they even work?) and who wants to risk getting in legal troubles? My insurance pays for mine (partial SCI, chronic pain...) -Not like you can tell your friend's (who works at minimum wage) rolex is a fake ;) But then again, if they do it... There must be some very gullible people clicking on them.

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    5. Re:Two ways by SmokeHalo · · Score: 1

      Um...could you forward me that webcam one?

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      I'm not good in groups. It's difficult to work in a group when you're omnipotent. - Q
  9. How did this take so long to get detected? by itpr15061 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Spam isn't all that difficult to track back, why is it taking so long for groups like this (#4 in the world) to get shut down? Is the slowdown our legal system and building the case?

    1. Re:How did this take so long to get detected? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because individuals can no longer press charges, only state attorneys. That's what CAN-SPAM said, and it superceded certain state laws in California and perhaps other places which DID allow folks to file suit individually. Now all we can do is beg the state attorneys to file suit.

    2. Re:How did this take so long to get detected? by gorbachev · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, until recently spamming, in itself, has been quite legal. You could only get someone convicted, if they spammed to advertise something illegal.

      Since the various anti-spamming laws have come to effect the problem has been lack of enforcement.

      The only real deterrent so far has been civil suits filed by ISPs such as Microsoft (Hotmail and MSN), Earthlink and AOL to name to most active litigators of spammers. The civil suits have been very effective, but do not usually land the perps in prison (other than that Buffalo spammer who was dumb enough to use stolen credit cards to pay for the Earthlink accounts he spammed from).

      --
      In Soviet Russia, I ruled you
    3. Re:How did this take so long to get detected? by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could only get someone convicted, if they spammed to advertise something illegal.

      Or of the spammer made unauthorised use of someone else's computer to send spam... No, no, you're right, spammers don't do illegal things like that.

  10. Lamest Spam Dvice Ever by TFGeditor · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "There are two ways to see if you've been sent illegal spam:

    Check for misleading subject lines that are intended to trick people into opening them.
    Look for a Web page to submit contact information.

    This is where spam operators make their money.

    A consumer submits contact information to that Web site."

    Gawd, is there a group anywhere with a greater ignorance level than the "mainstream" media? (Be nice...)

    --
    Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
    1. Re:Lamest Spam Dvice Ever by rolocroz · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yes, you're posting on it.

      --

      I meta-mod all positive moderation Unfair, because it's abuse of the system.

    2. Re:Lamest Spam Dvice Ever by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      I *said* be nice....

      --
      Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
    3. Re:Lamest Spam Dvice Ever by TFGeditor · · Score: 0

      Flamebait, eh. Mod must be a member of the Fourth Estate...no, wait...that would be me.

      --
      Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
  11. Don't know where you're from by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe .ca by your homepage, but to 'can' something in US English vernacular means to throw it out or get rid of it. Not to be confused with packaging it up for distribution, as I'm guessing you're thinking.

    1. Re:Don't know where you're from by arr28 · · Score: 1
      Maybe .ca by your homepage, but to 'can' something in US English vernacular means to throw it out or get rid of it. Not to be confused with packaging it up for distribution, as I'm guessing you're thinking.
      Or more likely he was thinking it as in "you can spam" i.e. "you are allowed to spam".
      Whatever made him think it was a "good thing" though - I've no idea. With the opt-out rule rather than the opt-in rule, it may as well be the "you can spam" act (as many before me have suggested).
  12. texas? wow by Liveandletlive · · Score: 0

    Why would he do that? does he not have anything better to do?

    Or was he one of those enterprising minds who wanted to earn more than his dad by the age of 20?

    --
    I know the world exists because I exist.
  13. like drum beating & yammering by already_gone · · Score: 1

    not to be ignored, but allowed deserved attention towards positive outcome.

  14. Re:Off to pound-you-in-the-ass prison! by Easy2RememberNick · · Score: 0

    I bet he now regrets sending out spam for penis enlargement!

  15. Re:Yes, by isometrick · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, almost a third of the people on death row are white. I can't say anything about their financial status, though.

  16. OT: sendmail-8.13.2+milter-spamc+spamd by maynard · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you're having serious problems with spammers rumplestiltskinning (rcpt dictionary attacks), sendmail-8.13.x allows you to limit the number of concurrent connections per IP address, limit the number of connections per minute per IP address, and slow down the flow of 'rcpt to:' commends by calling sleep(1); after a threshold number configured in your mc file.

    If that's not enough, and it wasn't for me, this one line hack to sendmail posted to the mimedefang list will hang up on the fuckers after hitting your badrcptmax threshold. Totally out of RFC spec, but when did spammers play by the rules? You'll want a script to cull through your mail logs to firewall off or blackhole route IPs which attack you in this manner too, pretty trivial.

    http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefa ng/2003-January/012863.html

    Finally, I'd like to sing the praises of milter-spamc combined with the spamassassin daemon. It's written in c, very lightweight, and it offers a configuration option to deny messages tagged as spam durring the smtp transation with a 551 notification (actually, it offers a series of 44x and 55x notifications; see the docs). You can also configure it to accept the message and just tag it with X-Spam headers per normal, but giving the spammers notice that the message was even accepted just makes me happy in so many ways. And don't forget to RBL block the fuckers too. --M

  17. Re:Kick him out of scool and ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to some articles published in August, he lives in this $450K house. Notice how the home is in trust for himself. Probably hoping to keep it when his scam falls apart. According to the UT Directory he lives near campus, but that looks like that's just a P.O. box. The e-mail address in the UT directory goes to payperauction.com.

  18. Exim dictionary attack buster by Bernie · · Score: 1

    For exim >= 4.12 just drop this into your DATA ACL:

    drop message = too many bad recipients
    condition = ${if and { {>{$rcpt_count}{8}} \
    {>{$rcpt_fail_count}{$recipients_count}} }{yes}{no}}

    The other bits are similarly easy :)

    1. Re:Exim dictionary attack buster by maynard · · Score: 1

      I stick with sendmail out of inertia more than anything else. Frankly, it's about time I explored other MTAs. I understand why the sendmail folks won't implement rcpt flood connection dropping out of respect for the RFCs, but the problem is pretty bad. If the exim folks support this, the sendmail folks are going to have to face the truth and support it soon too. For now, just make do I guess. Good tip BTW, thanks! --M

    2. Re:Exim dictionary attack buster by iamcf13 · · Score: 1

      I stick with sendmail out of inertia more than anything else. Frankly, it's about time I explored other MTAs

      Consider my Windows-based software MTA that I wrote back in July, 2004 if you can use it.

      It is an all-in-one solution to unwanted email. The only spam it cannot stop is 'zero content email' which is pointless to send out other than to verify working email accounts (no bounces sent back to the sender).

      Since I've been using the companion email client program I wrote along with the MTA, 'zero content email' is the *only* spam I get. All the other spam I get to iamcf13@hotpop.com is downloaded and automatically deleted. At the present time, I cannot use my own MTA to receive my email otherwise I wouldn't have to download the spam in the first place--my MTA could silently route it to the 'bit bucket' with the spammer none the wiser....

  19. State resources? by catdevnull · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if the student used his student accounts and/or UT's bandwidth the propagate his spam? If so, that's a DOUBLE whammy!! The state could have his proverbial ass for misuse if they can't get him on the spam charges.

    --

    I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
  20. Better yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Castration for salvation!

  21. I met this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few years ago he wanted to start some book exchange site and wanted me to write a script to get all of the UT emails and spam them. I refused, saying that spam is evil and that there are better ways to do things.

    Glad I did :)

  22. Re:Yes, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    http://prisonpolicy.org/graphs/murderrates.shtml

    Looks like they are underrepresented on death row, actually.

  23. Re:Kick him out of scool and ... by keath_milligan · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's been done. He lives in Deep Eddy - an trendy, expensive part of Austin in a house that is appraised at $450k (which is maximum value a house can be appraised at in that neighborhood - it actually worth quite a lot more). He also had (at least at one point) a shiny new Jag in the driveway.

  24. Re:Yes, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever think that maybe people from more poverty stricken backgrounds would end up on death row more....

  25. Spamming Countries by Tom · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And before the usual trolls roll in to claim that most of the spam is from China and whatever:

    Top 10 Spammer Countries

    If you're too lazy to look, the US is 1st with over 3 times the score of the 2nd place, which is indeed China.

    --
    Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
    1. Re:Spamming Countries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The ultimate source is the US because that's where the financial backers of these companies are but why do you think they find it so appealing to go offshore through zombie boxes? They know the governments over there will do nothing to stop it.

  26. Here in Texas by WillRobinson · · Score: 1

    We have a tendency to fry spammers, they rank right in there with them cattle rustlers.

  27. Re:Yes, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's quite the issue, not race in fact. Black people committing more crimes per capita including homicides may be a result of poverty, but then nobody should be surprised that they end up on death row more often. Common sense would allow you to understand this.

  28. Comment spam by fisheye1969 · · Score: 1

    Interesting article - my own website (based on WordPress) used to recieve large amounts of comment spam. I'm not getting much of that any more (yippee!!!).

    And the adverts: Texas Hold-Ems. (and casino's, Rolexes, C!4Ii5 etc, but mostly Texas Hold-Ems).

    Shame really, as I visited Texas in 2003 and really liked the people there (still do of course, just not this spamming $£%&*!

    1. Re:Comment spam by Skater · · Score: 1

      My roller skating forum (with, sadly, about 30 members, only one of whom is "active" - me) gets a LOT of "registration spam" - they register the account and put in a URL to an adult site.

      Even if the registrations have to be activated by the admin (as I have it set right now), the new user still shows up in the user list and all with their porn URL. I've had to spend hours deleting accounts that were registered strictly to put in a porn link.

      Pretty frustrating. It wouldn't bother me so much if the board was busier, because then I'd feel like I was getting something for the hassle, but now it's just hassle.

      --RJ

    2. Re:Comment spam by Polarix · · Score: 1

      I can't fathom actually liking the people in texas. Or anything about the place, really, save barbecue. I wonder why. Perhaps it's just the truck/gun/hate mentality I can't stand.

  29. Wouldn't it be easier... by JumperCable · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Wouldn't it be easier if we all just told his fellow college students who he is & what he looks like. College students are well known for having fewer inhibitions about expressing how they feel.

  30. Re:Yes, by twiddlingbits · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not in Texas, the population here is about 50% white, 35% Hispanic, 10% Black, 5% all others. In the biggest cities of Houston and San Antonio Hispanics are more than 50%.

    Plus, crime statistics in the USA have been known not to follow the population ethnic mix for a long time.

  31. Re:Yes, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Not race?

    Then you just need to compare conviction rates as a percentage of cases brought to trial. Studies have shown that arrest rates are higher for blacks, but that the conviction rate is much lower indicating bias in police arrests. On murder cases that actually go to trial, the chances for a black getting the death penalty vs a white are higher, indicating bias in the justice system.

    example
    example2

  32. Legit request! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't PayPerAction a paid political action committee in the State of Texas registered as a Republican? Something smells here....

  33. Re:Yes, by hackstraw · · Score: 1

    Not in Texas, the population here is about 50% white, 35% Hispanic, 10% Black, 5% all others.

    I don't live in Texas, I was just going by the latest census bureau (2000) info found here . I guess the data is outdated.

  34. Re:Yes, by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

    Yes, that data is outdated, things are changing rapidly. By about 2015-2020, Hispanics will be the majority in TX. I think that point will happen sooner than predicted.

  35. Re:Kick him out of scool and ... by rubenmiranda · · Score: 1

    Deep Eddy is in Dallas - did you mean Tarrytown maybe?

  36. Re:Kick him out of scool and ... by Nocinaus · · Score: 1

    Well, you can look up his info on the UT student dir and get the wrong address, or look it up on the Travis County Property vlaue website and get

    1005 POSSUM TROT
    Austin, TX :)

  37. Captcha plugin for WordPress by Rydain · · Score: 1

    My WordPress blog used to get the same sort of spam (advertising the same crap, nonetheless) until I installed the AuthImage plugin. It's stopped the spam completely without requiring me to keep a blacklist updated or forcing my friends to create accounts just to leave comments. It isn't a perfect solution (it's not accessible to blind visitors), but since virtually no one other than sighted friends reads my site, it works for me.

  38. Count Texas! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All make way for the evil Count Texas! His minions shall cover the Earth with darkness and shape mountains in his image! His weapons of mass destruction shall burn the plains and boil the seas! His armies shall smight all the enemies foolish enough to stand in his way and all who publicly disagree with him shall know his wrath!

  39. *shrug* by hawk · · Score: 1

    Your dog was alive, at least. I've been offered citibank credit cards at nonexistent addresses (apparent clerical error mixed two former addresses), and to misspellings of variations of my name that only existed on citibank cards . . .

    But the best I've seen was about 1990, when my grandmother received a preapproved gold card offer for her father--who had died 50 years earlier (but had resided at that adress), and presumably never should have been in a comptuter database.

    hawk

  40. Because of who is harmed by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    In the case of of copyright infringement, the harm is minimal, if any at all. It is possible that a large content producre loses a sale form it, however pelase remember that not every illegal copy is one that the person would have bought anyhow. So there is minimal monitary harm to a single entity. I see that as being something that warrants a small (like few hundred) dollar fine, not the threat of a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

    In the case of spam the harm is vast and widespread. Spam costs a lot of money. It costs in bandwidth and server resrouces it uses, applications and appliances to block it, and lost employee time to deal with it. The monitary harm is quite large, and effects many people.

    There is also intent. In the case of copyright infringment, the intent is usually to get content that you cannot otherwise afford, or to sample content you might wish to purchase. With spam, the intent is to make tons of money at the expense fo others, generally fraduantly.

  41. Re:Yes, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So now we're back to ignoring poverty as a factor? Make up your mind, idiot.

  42. Actual lawsuit papers (pdf) by The+Hobo · · Score: 1
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    There is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men. -- Boondock Saints
  43. Re:Kick him out of scool and ... by keath_milligan · · Score: 1

    There's a Deep Eddy in Austin, too.

  44. Re:Kick him out of scool and ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are probably referring to 'Deep Ellum' in Dallas. Or maybe you are not.

  45. i work across the hall from leadplex by hax0r_par · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We've known Leadplex were spammers since day one.

    All these shady guys used to be walking in and out of Leadplex all day, it looked more like a drug ring than an actual business. I work over at Simpler-Webb and smoked a lot of cigarettes with the spammer guys. Most of them aren't intrinsically bad, but that Ryan guy (i'm assuming it was him) acted REALLY shady all the time. I went over to their company one day just 'looking for someone' and when he came to the door he seemed pretty freaked out someone he didnt know was coming to his office. For a while we thought it was a porn studio because they had so many fine girls going in and out of there all day, hell it might've been porn as well. Who knows. A week or so ago we say them moving a lot of boxes out, and a couple of days ago a camera crew showed up trying to get the spammers to come out and this was the first time we had ever seen the lights off in their office. Definetly shady stuff, hard to believe we work DIRECTLY across the hall from the worlds #4 spammers.

    All in all, glad to see these guys getting put away, I need less spam in my mailbox for sure.

    --
    ~~par
    1. Re:i work across the hall from leadplex by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that you should, y'know, take advantage of your position or anything - but if a horrible accident should befall any of the guys there and you should just happen to have a PayPal account, I'm sure that a lot of the people here might...

      No, no, forget I said anything. I was kidding.

      Unless you really wanted to or something.

      No, never mind.

      Wait? You smoke? You ever maybe... drop one of them? Accidentally?

      Forget it. I didn't mean that.

      Hey, are you dumb? Like, dumb enough to smoke around a can of gasoline if one mysteriously appeared near their off...

      DAMMIT!

  46. Re:Off to pound-you-in-the-ass prison! by kaje103 · · Score: 0

    Seems to me like he needs to look into getting a soap holder

  47. conact info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not sure if this is current, but was current as of August 2004.

    Name Ryan Pitylak
    Ryan Samuel Pitylak
    Title Junior, Advertising (upper division)
    College/Department College of Communication
    Home Phone +1 512-320-9930
    Home Address 2002a Guadalupe St # 290
    Austin, TX 78705-5609-02

    He lives at:

    1005 POSSUM TROT
    Austin, Tx

    Ryan Samuel Pitylak
    DOB 05/22/1982
    TX Drivers License No. 2119216
    Lives at
    1005 Possum Trot
    Austin, TX 78703

  48. Re:Yes, by alan_dershowitz · · Score: 1

    Conviction rates for what accused crimes? I think the breakdown is important. If, hypothetically, for some cultural reason one group of people tended to put up more resistance to police actions, the result could be more arrests, less convictions for that group.

    For example, let's say a white person gets pulled over for speeding. The speeder apologizes, and gets a ticket, goes on their way. A latino driver gets pulled over for speeding, and, feeling threatened, acts belligerent. The confrontation escalates until the cop arrests the uncooperative driver. Taken to trial, the charge is only speeding, and the driver gets off for whatever reason. Just comparing race and arrests is not sufficiently fine grained enough to get meaningful interpretations.

    Same for death penalty, unless you review the details of the crimes. If a white person killed someone by handgun but a black person killed someone with a machete, the horrific nature of the killing might get them the death penalty where the white person did not. I really don't know, I'm playing devil's advocate here.

  49. name and address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the spammer, courtesy of UT's x500 server:

    [x500/128.83.126.100]
    UT Finger Service...
    1 exact common name match found for "Ryan Samuel Pitylak":
    "1531548460 + cn=Ryan Samuel Pitylak, College of Liberal Arts"
    Also Known As:
    Ryan Pitylak
    Ryan Samuel Pitylak
    Title:
    Junior, Philosophy
    Home Address:
    2002a Guadalupe St # 290
    Austin, TX 78705-5609-02
    Home Phone:
    +1 512-320-9930
    User ID:
    1531548460
    E-Mail:
    ryan@payperaction.com

  50. Readable version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  51. Legal vs. Moral and Disrespect for Bad Laws by billstewart · · Score: 1
    Anon.Coward has it just about right, though it would be better taken with a gram of hash than all that salt.... "Legality" is an interesting concept if you're a lawyer, or a judge, or evaluating actions that may be beneficial to you if you don't get caught by a government, but it's fundamentally an attempt to divert the respect that people traditionally have for moral principles and social cohesion and use it to support rules thought up by politicians, who typically aren't all that skillful or farsighted about the topics they write rules about and are often trying to help special interests rather than the general public.
    • Some laws are important moral principles regarding aggression against other people (don't kill, don't steal),
    • some are reasonable but not about moral issues (drive on the right-hand side of the road unless it's marked otherwise),
    • some are about moral issues but none of the government's business (you can't say the following list of Nasty Words on TV or sell the following items on Sunday),
    • some are attempts to redefine moral concepts to cover other situations (we'll redefine "plagiarism" as "theft" and define "property" to include "ideas"),
    • some are attempts to use government power take control of actions of social cooperation (you can only rent to white people, or we're redefining "marriage" to be "something the government grants you permission to do" instead of "a personal relationship that society recognizes" or "a personal relationship that the Church blesses or condemns depending on who's doing it"),
    • some are attempts to favor one group over another (you can only drive a taxi if you own a medallion.)
    • The list just keeps going on.

    Spamming is rude, and there's too much of it out there, and the Internet makes it hard to treat rude people appropriately so lots of people think that laws might be a useful tool, especially since the law forbids the public to use other potentially useful tools such as wirecutters, 2x4s, and small nuclear weapons. The drug prohibition laws are evil and have immensely bad effects on society. The DMCA is greedy, and it's so totally overblown that it's obvious that it's authors were not only clueless about the effects of the power they were throwing around but also simply don't care, but unlike the drug wars, it still interferes with people's productivity, creativity, and access to shiny toys but doesn't lead to dead bodies on the streets.

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    Bill Stewart
    New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
  52. annoying, but not fatal by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
    I count at least three hands:

    typing
    drinking coffee
    petting my dog

    how'd you manage all three at once?

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    [Fuck Beta]
    o0t!