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New Battlestar Galactica Series Starts Tonight

Snaller writes "Tonight the Scifi channel begins airing the new reimaged Battlestar Galactica series. Having run to rave reviews in the UK, the new series is darker and grittier than the original, and showrunner Ron Moore aims for a more adult narrative with comments on issues such as terrorism, security, freedom, religion and what it means to be human in a series which is essentially one long story arc. The entire cast from the 2003 mini series is back and the first episode, called '33', picks up almost where the mini series left off: The humans are still on the run, but each time they come out of hyperspace, the Cylon armada catches up 33 minutes later ... every 33 minutes. When we join the crew this has been going on for five days."

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  1. Rerunning of mini series by wedding · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any plans to rerun the miniseries so that those of us that missed out can get the backstory?
    Inquiring Tivos want to know!

    1. Re:Rerunning of mini series by SirWinston · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um, they've already done so on various nights for two weeks now on both Sci-Fi and even on NBC. This is why I skim the week's listings beforehand. ;-)

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    2. Re:Rerunning of mini series by Tassach · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ask, and ye shall receive.

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    3. Re:Rerunning of mini series by fireduck · · Score: 4, Informative

      They've been playing it all week (as well as the origina 70s series as well as the one in 80), and I thought you'd missed it, however, it looks like there'll be a chance to catch the miniseries again Sunday night. From AICN:
      "Battlestar Galactica" 2003 Miniseries:
      Jan. 8 8pm-11pm NBC: 3-Hour Version
      Jan. 11 9pm-11pm SciFi: Part One
      Jan. 12 7pm-9pm SciFi: Part One
      Jan. 12 9pm-11pm SciFi: Part Two
      Jan. 16 3pm-5pm SciFi: Part One
      Jan. 16 5pm-7pm SciFi: Part Two

    4. Re:Rerunning of mini series by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was indeed, but it was a little different from a straight rerun. It was edited down from a 3-hour cut to a 2-hour cut. Scenes were rearranged in some places, and in a couple of instances different takes were used.

      The show is being shot in high-definition video at 24 frames per second, a format commonly referred to as "24p." This helps keep costs down, production schedules shorter and quality higher.

  2. BTEFNET.NET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:BTEFNET.NET by zaneIO · · Score: 2, Informative

      Warning!! If you have not seen the earlier episodes, do not download these. As stated above, this series is very sequential, and if watched out of order it might spoil things in earlier episodes.

    2. Re:BTEFNET.NET by lemkepf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's great that we can download stuff off the net... but in reality that could hurt the possibility of a second season. The hard core scifi fans have already downloaded it and watched it, and odds are wont turn into the show. Based on that the ratings for the US showing will be lower than what they couuld be. A screw up for the SciFi channel big time.... I really hope we get a second season, these first episodes really are quite good.

    3. Re:BTEFNET.NET by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's great that we can download stuff off the net... but in reality that could hurt the possibility of a second season.

      The TV companies, MPAA, etc always complain bout people downloading episodes/movies from the net before they've been release in the respective country (hell, they even complain about people in a country where a series has been shown spoiling plot-lines for people in countries where it hasn't shown). This, of course, is one of the main reaons for the regionalisation of DVDs... not that it does any good since anyone who was going to import stuff will have deregionalised their player anyway.

      Here's a stunning thought, and I'm sure noone at the TV companies or MPAA have thought about it... How about they release the series and films at the same time across the world. I'm sorry, but if you release a series in one country 6 months before it's release in another, I think you can expect people to get impatient and download it.

      The difference of course with Galactica is that it's all reversed - usually in the UK we have to wat over 6 months for TV shows to come over from the US, now the US is getting a taste of what we have to put up with all the time.

      Having said that, and to stay slightly on topic: my view of the new Galactica (which they keep describing as totally action packed in the trailors) is that there isn't enough action and it's taking rather too long for the story to develop. I can quite see people losing interest in it - nowhere near as good as FireFly which had a very good balance between action and story IMHO... Hey, we haven't even seen anyone flying a Viper in the last few episodes, and Baltar's imaginary cylon has been plain annoying from the start.

  3. 33 minutes by DrugCheese · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At least you know when not to take a bathroom break.

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    1. Re:33 minutes by pohl · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's ok, you only have to hold it for a few centons.

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    2. Re:33 minutes by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 2, Funny

      While I do not claim to be a veteran, I'm sure if you ask a Navy vet, they will tell you that its pretty hard tog et rest whilst your ship is under attack. I don't know this for a fact, but while shifts are good for everyday operation of the ship, combat operations involve the whole crew. That's why int he movies you see guys wearing helmets, flak vests and boxers running to their stations;-)

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    3. Re:33 minutes by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 3, Informative

      They don't have anything close to enough crew to man all action stations in shifts. This is consistent with Navy procedures; when you're in active combat, nobody's in his rack. Everybody's got a job to do, and everybody does it.

      So yeah, this was actually completely realistic. In fact, it was a level of attention to detail that impressed the hell out of me.

    4. Re:33 minutes by thelizman · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's already pointed out that yes, in fact, during an attack every crewman has a station. It's not just people shooting guns, but fire and damage control medical, and people moving ammo around the ship.

      It's also necessary to note that the Galactica was running a minimal crew in anticipation of being retired when the Cylons attacked. That's why they were flying Mark I Vipers, which were museum display pieces.

    5. Re:33 minutes by rikkards · · Score: 2, Funny

      Frak!! I can't wait that long :)

  4. As a toast by WormholeFiend · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hereby lift my Starbucks Grande Latte to the success of this awesome science-fiction tv show.

  5. Wow, the US are behind... by lverrall · · Score: 5, Interesting


    UK viewers are about half the way through this series already... and we're getting Stargate first... Makes a change.

    Stick with Galactica for a few weeks. It'll get better, honest.

    1. Re:Wow, the US are behind... by shadowjk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Erm, inducement to commit copyright infringement?
      Pardon me sir, but are you perhaps referring to the ONE MAJOR REASON why the WHOLE WORLD (apart from the US) are tempted to defer to copyright infringement?

      Ok, I have to confess. Per hollywood definitions, I am a pirate.

      When my peers on internet are discussing movies and shows, which will at best, if one is very optimistic, be released here on TV or in Cinema, a year (for cinema) or 3 years (for TV), if at all, from when they air in the US, and the DVD release, if there is one at all, being even further delayed, I have no choice but to use illegal sources to watch this show.

      I wish to welcome all of you lucky US citizens who like Battlestar Galactica, to the reality of us who like ANY american produced show. Welcome to the crowd.

      It is my firm and principal belief, that most of the TV and Movie piracy could be eradicated if only the silly time limits and restrictiond on the content were removed. Release Movie A only in Country B. Obviously, Country C - Z will pirate it, DUH! It is simple. Why can not the moviemakers understand this?

      Why can not the content distributors realize, that by restricting distribution, they are only hurting themselves, and feeding the pirates? Why are the distributors this damn braindead? Why the hell do you want to kill prospective audiences? Why the hell do you want to tell your customers to FUCK OFF? Why do you want to tell your customers to go away? Why do you want to tell your customers to come back in 2 years?

      It is quite illogical. It is what breeds contempt for the legitimate content produces in general, evne for those who do not practice these unfriendly procedures. I do wonder, do they even want our legitimate business?

      It seems to me, that they would rather see us download the pirates versions, which, contrary to the legitimate versions, actually PLAY in STANDARD media players, without need for custom media players or custom DRM patches or DRM software or DRM players, and, the illegitimate versions most often play on every operating syste, every processor and every architechture in use, whereas, the very few proprietary DRM releases that make it to the internet, are restricted to the few who afford a platform powerful enough, a platform glamorous enough, a platform recent enough, a platform lucky to run one of the few system approved by the media conglomerages.

    2. Re:Wow, the US are behind... by jsebrech · · Score: 3, Informative

      Is this show any good?

      It depends.

      If you want to see something like the original series, but updated with modern effects, you'll be disappointed. They reinvented everything about the battlestar galactica universe. Now, I personally think this series is FAR better than the original series, even if you strip out the excellent special effects. But there are people who liked the original series just as it was, and feel offended by this new series basically saying that TOS sucked ass and nothing good could be done storywise with it in a new series.

      If you like technobabble, cool futuristic technology, outlandish sci-fi concepts (like otherdimensional beings, time travel, and so on...), then you won't like this series. The galactica is ancient tech, think wired phonelines, simple CRT screens, and dated, low-tech, fighter spacecraft. It's even suffering from metal fatigue, being scheduled for decommissioning when it is forced into being the ill-equipped defender of what's left of humanity. This is on purpose. The humans are the centerpoint of the show, and the show deals primarily with humanity. The humans can't find a "technological" solution to their problems, and it's their humanity that in the end has to save them, not how well they can use tachyon particles. So, although there is FTL drive, it is in the series only because in space you can't get around without it, and is employed very sparingly (first episode excepted). There are no food generators, no transporters, no force fields, and no advanced particle weapons (they use regular bullet-spewing guns and rockets). If you need the sci-fi to be really sci, you won't enjoy this at all.

      If however, you like a show with characters that aren't completely one dimensional and experience some small modicum of personal growth, a plot that isn't totally obvious or contrived, and a general focus on humanity on the brink of destruction/salvation, involving faith and love as core elements of the plot, then you'll like this show, as I do.

      Watch the first episode. If it draws you in and makes you jump to the edge of your seat every time the 33 minutes are up, then you'll enjoy the rest of the season. If it doesn't do anything for you, don't bother with the rest.

  6. ratings won't be what they should by cnycompguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scifi channel should start airing episodes when the rest of the world does, with the internet people who are actually interested in the series have most likely already seen the released episodes. Once the media execs realise that the internet has basicly tied the entire world on one release schedule they'll actually see the true ratings for the episodes.

    1. Re:ratings won't be what they should by crow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yup, I'm running MythTV, it's no different to play back downloaded shows than recorded shows.

      And since I have a 16:9 TV, I actually get to use the full screen. I probably could zoom in with the US broadcast, but I doubt I'll ever be able to get the quality of image from the UK downloads.

    2. Re:ratings won't be what they should by brianosaurus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      IANAL... Especially for "free" TV, I don't see anything wrong with it. And as for supporting advertisers, if I don't watch the show live, I don't watch the ads. Once the show has aired, those advertisers have already missed their opportunity to reach me, or rather they had their slot, and I missed them. If I later watch on tape or ReplayTV or Tivo, I'll skip of FF through the ads, and won't watch them (and that practice has been legal since Sony was making Betamax). There's no lost revenue to advertisers, because I wasn't there to see the ad when it aired. If I download the show instead of watching it on my ReplayTV, its practically the same thing.

      I know SciFi isn't free TV, but I have cable and I pay my bills so they're getting the same amount of my money whether I watch or not. I can just as easily record the show on my ReplayTV as download it off the internet, but the download is far better quality. Its a win-win situation as far as watching first-run shows goes.

      I consider this drastically different than a DVD rip or theater bootleg, where someone else has payed for the media and is letting others download for $free. In that case the downloaders are getting something for free that isn't otherwise available to them without paying for the disc. I don't download movies or DVD content, as I can follow the "its stealing" logic pretty easily for DVD-rip downloads. I'm not saying its right or wrong, but I don't think its worth the risk vs. the price of DVDs. (I also think the MPAA could battle "piracy" with more aggressive pricing, but I'm sure they're doing the S&D curves and figuring out which lawsuits work best).

      As for first-run TV shows (whether broadcast, or on cable/sat channels I subscribe) the content is 100% legally available to me, and I am paying for it through whatever billing process the content providers have made available, ie. my cable/sat bill. I can get a better looking picture by downloading off the internet than watching the recordings on my ReplayTV. Its almost as good as the signals already being legally sent to me (over the air, or over pay-TV), and I don't have to spend the money on a high-priced first generation HD recorder.

      I know the MPAA and cable co's, etc, must be looking at downloads as an additional revenue stream; another way to get you to pay more for something you already get. In fact, its their way to get you to pay more for even less than you already get, when you consider the DRM restrictions.

      Some cable (or sat?) DVRs will record shows and only save them for a short period of time (1-2 weeks, based on a flag in the show data). They charge an additional monthly fee for their DVRs, even though there is no value add once you've purchased the box: there is already a program guide on digital cable and satellite, so its nothing new for them to develop. The shows are already being broadcast, so there's nothing extra they need to send over the wire. The hardware has the capability to record shows whether or not you pay an extra $5/month (though if you don't pay, I imagine they disable it in software). The monthly fee is either to rent the box (is that it?) or just some bullshit pure profit move.

      Oh yeah... and they want to make sure you can only watch shows on approved devices, so you can't catch up on your shows with your laptop on an airplane.

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  7. Gaius Baltar or Shannon "Boomer" by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm willing to bet the 33 minute problem will come down to isolating one of these two- or both- to fit in with the story line.

    But now this raises an interesting question: At the end of the miniseries, it appeared that the Imperious Leader was wearing Shannon "Boomer"'s body model. Could similar models be networked? Thus providing a locator beacon every time they leave hyperspace- that it takes the cylons 33 minutes to home in on?

    If I was Adama, I'd set the next hyperspace jump for exactly 29 minutes....always in the same general direction but enough off so that it was unpredictable....until I was so far out that the cylons could NEVER catch up.

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    1. Re:Gaius Baltar or Shannon "Boomer" by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 4, Interesting
      There is no "Imperious Leader." You misunderstood the closing scene of the pilot.

      And I'd suggest you check out Ron Moore's latest blog entry. He goes to great length to explain that the intricate technological details behind the 33-minute thing just don't matter. He says:

      A deeper truth is, I was never interested in coming up with an explanation for Why? Never. I mean, I suppose I could've come up with a sufficiently important-sounding bit of technobabble that would've made sense (you see, the Cylon double-talk sensors tracking the Olympic Carrier's nonsense drive signature needed 15 minutes to relay the made-up data wave through the pretend continuum, then the Cylon navigational hyper silly system needed another 10 minutes to recalculate the flux capacitor, etc.) but what would that have really added to the drama? How does explaining that 33 minute interval help our understanding of Laura's terrible moment of decision, or bring us to any greater knowledge of Dualla's search for her missing family and friends, or yield insight into Baltar's morally shattered psyche?


      If you're the kind of person who wants to hear lengthy technical explanations of incidental plot points -- and there's nothing wrong with those people -- don't waste your time with this show. This is not a genre show. It's a character-driven drama that just happens to be set in space and include robots.
  8. A breath of fresh air by Sanity · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I consider myself to be a pretty discerning sci-fi fan, and this show is pretty-much perfect. The characters are interesting, imperfect, complicated. The stories are interesting, even the bad-guys, the Cylons, are intriguing (some of them are religous zealots, others are obsessed by sex!).

    This show is in a different league to Stargate SG1/Atlantis, Enterprise, and the rest, and certainly doesn't need to rely on lazy nostalgia for the original.

    1. Re:A breath of fresh air by Attaturk · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd have to agree. I've been watching it regularly over here in the UK since it started. It's actually bloody good.

      I was a total skeptic, having become completely disillusioned with Sci-Fi TV in general. I used to love Sci-Fi TV when I was younger but the genre has really been flogged to death over the last decade or so. When I heard about the BSG remake my colleagues and I all had a good laugh at its expense.

      Many months ago I came across the torrent for the mini-series premiere and downloaded it for no apparent reason. Very late one night after a long work session I fired it up pretty much out of boredom. By the time the first part was over I was absolutely hooked - not to mention stunned that even someone with my initial perspective had been conquered by it.

      I hate TV. I dunno what it's like over there in the U.S. right now but given the state of it when I was last visiting, I can only assume that it's even worse than it is here - full of remakes, so-called 'reality TV' and unoriginal nonsense. Even the 'educational' stuff and documentaries are patronising and ill-informed. Anyway, my point is that over the last couple of years I've become aware of two - and only two - programmes worth watching. The Daily Show is one of them and BSG is the other. Without these two programmes I could quite happily throw my TV out the window. Actually come to think of it, I have to download my Daily Show so BSG is the only thing saving the TV set.

      Of course this series still has some low points but there are a helluva lot fewer than any other Sci Fi series we've seen in recent years. Huge huge thumbs up. I strongly recommend that even the most hardened cynic puts aside their fears and check it out.

  9. Darker and Grittier by Shamanin · · Score: 4, Funny

    "the new series is darker and grittier than the original"

    is that really saying much? Mary Poppins is darker and grittier than the original series also.

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    1. Re:Darker and Grittier by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Good point. :-) OK, it's REALLY REALLY REALLY darker and gritter than the original.

      The Cylon attack in the original was a cheap SFX lightshow.

      The Cylon attack in the new show is really nasty: nuke after nuke after nuke right in the heart of population centers. It makes "The Day After" look like Mary Poppins. You really get the sense that this is not war- this is an attempt at complete extermination. The original was too cheesy to accomplish that.

      One thing I don't see mention much is the virtual zoom lens activity in the spaceFX shots. It really gives a greater sense of 3D and more more solid feel to the spacecraft than previous shows.

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    2. Re:Darker and Grittier by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2, Informative

      One thing I don't see mention much is the virtual zoom lens activity in the spaceFX shots. It really gives a greater sense of 3D and more more solid feel to the spacecraft than previous shows.

      Of course, it was also ripped from Firefly. :)

    3. Re:Darker and Grittier by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's not true at all. In fact, the effects for this show were inspired more by "Black Hawk Down" than by "Firefly." But they have a very "Firefly" look to them because they were done by the same people working at the same effects houses.

      Keep your eye on Zoic. They're doing amazing work.

  10. I know... beowulf cluster setup, right? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    ' Could similar models be networked? '

    You could not come right out and say a "beowulf cluster of boomers", could you?

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    1. Re:I know... beowulf cluster setup, right? by idontgno · · Score: 2, Funny
      In Soviet Kobol...

      No, dammit, I can't say it.

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  11. Maybe the writers are Rolling Rock fans by bubblegoose · · Score: 3, Informative
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  12. And gratuitous Cylon b00bage. by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
    > Having run to rave reviews in the UK, the new series is darker and grittier than the original, and showrunner Ron Moore aims for a more adult narrative with comments on issues such as terrorism, security, freedom, religion and what it means to be human in a series which is essentially one long story arc.

    ...puncutated every five minutes by (whups, gotta make out with my imaginary Cylon chick) segments showing Baltar's imaginary Cylon chick (ahem, fap fap fap) screwing around with his mind (oooh, she said "screw") by intruding into the plot line at least once per segment (and her spine glows, which is why we need to interrupt the plot for another gratuitous shot of this half-naked Cylon chick) with a simulated sex scene.

    Hey, Baltar, I've got your Cylon detector right here. (pause to make out with Cylon chick) It's called a blacklight. (hang on, gotta fap again) If your pants are glowing with stains from busting one out every five minutes (damn, that feels great!) and everyone else on the ship is grossed out by it, odds are you're under Cylon influence.

    Now if you'll pardon me, I've gotta go boink this hot imaginary chick in the red dress again. See you after the commercial.

    1. Re:And gratuitous Cylon b00bage. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, as someone said here a while back: If that's what the Cylons look like, then I wanna be conquered hard, again and again ....

  13. Only in the U.S. by Voxxel · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's beened aired elsewhere already. I've downloaded adn watched the first 11 eipsodes. Looks like they were recorded from some British channel.

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  14. Its getting great reviews in the states as well by Snaller · · Score: 2, Informative

    Aint it cool news have compiled a list of comments from american media, and they are almost all very positive.

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  15. this show rocks pretty hard by jimfinity · · Score: 2, Interesting

    so, i've seen the first 10 or so episodes, and let me tell you, this show has restored my faith in the sci-fi genre. after so many bad seasons of "enterprise" it's nice to know there are still some people out there who can do it right. I highly recommend this show to just about anyone.

    1. Re:this show rocks pretty hard by wertarbyte · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not yet, but the colonials (humans) practica a polytheistic religion similar to ancient greek (or rome), while the cylons favour a single god. Although still unclear, these facts seem to be a major point in the confrontation.

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  16. The best thing about the new BG by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 3, Insightful
    is the fanboys of the older series huffing and puffing about violating the purity of the original (like making Starbuck a girl or some other thing that got their pink panties all wrapped around the axle, to mix a metaphor).

    I guess in a world where Britney Spears or Adam Sandler can have millions of devoted fans, even the original Battlestar Galactica can have them, too.

    The scene in the new miniseries, with a horizon filled with mushroom clouds and desperate people blindly fleeing, by itself kicked the ass of the entire original series.

    And don't even argue with me or I'll bring up Galactica 1980. AND I'll bitch slap your sorry ass, punk, and then make you cook me a steak.

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    1. Re:The best thing about the new BG by Altus · · Score: 2, Funny


      Galactica 1980 NEVER HAPPENED!

      and I will listen to absolutely no argument to the contrary...

      LA LA LA IM NOT LISTENING!!!

      that said... the new show kicks ass.

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    2. Re:The best thing about the new BG by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While I agree with you completely, there was one other scene in the miniseries that, in my opinion, kicked the ass of the original.

      Near the end, during the "after the fight" montage, Tigh goes back to his cabin, takes out his liquor bottle, and drops it into the trash can by his desk.

      We cut away to other scenes, other characters reacting to their new circumstances.

      Then we cut back to Tigh. He's fished the bottle out of the trash, has it sitting in the middle of his desk, and is sitting in his chair with his chin on his hand just staring at it.

      That, to me, said more about Tigh's character and how the show plans to deal with flaws than anything else in the entire 180-plus minutes. These are real people with real flaws. Tigh's not a lovable scoundrel. He's the best damn XO in the fleet who also happens to be a drunk with massive stupidity when it comes to women.

      There are no heroes here. There are just regular people trying to survive under unbelievably hard conditions.

      Which, I guess from a certain point of view, makes them all heroes after all.

    3. Re:The best thing about the new BG by Leo+McGarry · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Some of the best parts of "The Return of Starbuck" went into an episode of the new series called "Act of Contrition."

      The writers of the new show really go out of their way to give nods to the old show. Some are overt, but there are lots more that are too subtle for all but the most observant to notice. For instance, during the miniseries, Adama gives his monster speech at the funeral. At one point he says, "'Life here began out there.' Those are the first words of the sacred scrolls." Some may remember, of course, that the first words of the prologue of the original 1970-whatever pilot were "There are those who believe that life here began out there." Incredibly subtle stuff.

      And the writers are right up front about the ways that their interpretation of the premise differs from the original. The first words of both the pilot and every regular episode come in the form of a title card that opens the show. The card simply says: "The cylons were created by man." It's like saying, "Here's how it is, take it or leave it." I respect that.

      There's lots of stuff like that. It's fun to keep an eye out for it.

  17. For those setting their VCR's by MacBrave · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually two episodes are airing tonight. '33' at 9pm ET followed by 'Water' at 10pm ET.

  18. Personally by afstanton · · Score: 2, Funny

    I welcome our new Cylon overlords. Especially if they are hot as that blonde chick.

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  19. Re:timeline? by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 2, Funny
    That's about right as I recall. It was sort of an extended sci-fi episode of "24" with the ultimate worst case scenario. ;-)

    (phone rings)

    "This is Jack Bauer."

    "Jack! The Cylons-"

    *BOOM*

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  20. Why Did Europe get it 4 Months ahead of time? by haplo21112 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd just like to know?

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    1. Re:Why Did Europe get it 4 Months ahead of time? by Snaller · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why Did Europe get it 4 Months ahead of time?

      It wasn't Europe as such, only the UK. This version of BG is very expensive, and SciFi weren't entirely sure they should risc that much money - after all it might bomb big time. They came to an arrangement with British Sky channel - they would help fund the series, on the proviso that they could show the series first.

      And so it came to be. Of course it will ultimately be US ratings which determine the fate of the series.

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  21. Give this show a chance - it's worth it by elektrizitat · · Score: 2, Informative

    To provide some context I've been a long time sci fi viewer like many of you. I enjoyed the original series but was never a fanboy about it. However, I became somewhat put off when it appeared Moore rebuffed Hatch's attempt to revive the show because he wanted to pursue his own revisioning of the series. I was also a fan of Farscape and wasn't thrilled about how that series demise was handled. However, the ads looked good and I checked out the miniseries. While I have some reservations about small nit-picky things I think it's one of the best sci fi series I've seen in a long time. I *may* have already checked out a few of the episodes as well via the use of time travel. *cough* They're even better than the miniseries. The series has an intensity and sense of urgency and drama that I've found lacking in other series. This may be my preference for more "hard" sci fi which must sound laughable to those of you who remember the original series. Give it a chance - I think most of you will be happy you did!

  22. Seen and impressed... by SirWinston · · Score: 2

    I got to see the SkyOne airings and I must say this is currently the best drama on TV. It's certainly funny when appropriate, it's very sexy, and it's definitely good science fiction, but the levels of dramatic tension are astounding. Each episode of the first 11 I've seen has impressed me with new surprises layered atop steady, logical plot advancement--evading cylons, finding supplies, rooting out spies, rebuilding fleet organization, casting off old releationships due to new circumstances. But always there's tension, drama, a sense of the importance of survival. It draws you in and makes the viewer feel this frenetic struggle to survive.

    And understanding the Cylon motivation has proven to be a philosophical, religious tangle. They're not one-dimensional machines--they seem to be acutely self-aware and trying to discover more about the nature of their souls, so to speak. The whole series is a major accomplishment and a departure from formulaic, one-dimensional sci-fi.

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  23. New Battlestar Galactica Series Starts Tonight???? by ltwally · · Score: 2, Informative

    The series has actually been airing in Europe for the past several months. For those Americans that were too impatient to wait, the episodes been available off your favourite torrent sites for some time now.

    So far, 11 of the season's 13 episodes have aired and been made available online in TV, PDTV and HDTV formats.

    As well as being in higher resolution/quality than your average TV broadcast, these online copies are commercial-free.

    Personally, I recommend downloading them and watching them on your computer, but also tuning your television on to the sci-fi channel and muting the sound, so that Sci-Fi gets paid for these shows and they may be able to continue producing them.

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  24. Or not... by Snaller · · Score: 3, Informative

    Showrunner Ron Moore has started a blog where he comments on each episode - here is his comment on Why 33 ?

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  25. I am so hoping that this is the shot in the arm... by haplo21112 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...that SCI FI TV needs...becuase its been terrible lately...

    I thought me had it with Farscape for a bit, but it feel apart. It was good for the first couple seasons, but then it went off track and the casual watcher (to survive a show needs to be accessible the casual watcher) couldn't keep up with the plot twists and the cast changes. This killed the show...

    Enterprise is so far off course its going to exit the galaxy. Its good but its not trek, and its pulling concepts out of the trek archive that only the hardcore trekkies can follow to try to survive...not a good plan. What they need is a good hardcore war, but its not really in the cards because of Trek Cannon for the time period.

    StarGate I still love but lately it just seems a bit Earth bound, I have hopes for the second half of the season. And we know there will be a 9th now...the replicators in the new human form lurk and I think this is the way to bring new interesting plots the G'uld, have run thier course for now...

    Atlantis is good, but I think its still finding its stride...I'm not in love with the chracters or plots yet, and the main baddies have not really put in a serious appearence since the Opening....

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  26. Re:33 Minutes... by pablonhd · · Score: 2, Informative

    The entire series is not built around the 33 min problem.... its just the one episode.

  27. Having seen it... by ericdano · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Having seen episodes 1-11, this is by far the best SciFi I have ever seen. Second would be Farscape. Third would be Stargate Atlantis and SG1.

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  28. The new Battlestar Galactica is great! by psykopotat · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've seen the first 8-9 episodes and I'm loving it. What I like about is that it has a certain "reality" to it that most other sci-fi episodes have not. It looks like it won't resort to standard cheesy sci-fi plot fillers when they run out of original material. Cheesy plot fillers being time travel, parallel universes, holodecks, body switching (shudder). Star Trek regularly uses these plots, Stargate does this also but manages it a bit better because it doesn't take itself too seriously and Farscape is just.. on acid.

    B5 was good though.
    ps. I haven't seen a single episode of the original series, I'm still hoping bsg keeps it a bit more "down to earth" than most other scifi

  29. netflix by Satai · · Score: 2, Interesting

    in response to all this, since I've never seen any of the Battlestar shows, I logged on to Netflix and added all the original series plus the miniseries. The original series, for those who don't know, is ten discs in length -- and I scrolled down my queue, and every single one was listed as "Very Long Wait." Not short wait, not "Available Now" not even "Long Wait." "Very Long Wait."

    That is, except for Disc 6 -- next to that entry, it says "Available Now."

    What the hell is wrong with Disc 6 that nobody wants it?

  30. Series timeline and availability by DiveX · · Score: 3, Informative

    The mini-series pilot was released in Canada in summer 2003. atings were good enough to make a series out of it. Because of the expense, a British station helped fund the show on the condition that they air it first.

    In December 2003, the pilot showed in the US and UK. Starting in January, the mini-series episodes (of which 13 have been produced) started airing.

    Last weekend, NBC aired an edited (cut from 4 hours to 3) pilot at primetime. The Sci-Fi channel (owned by Universal [which owns NBC as well]) is showing in two parts, the origional, full pilot. It is also showing old episodes of the original show. The new version is going to start being aired in the US now as mentioned in the story.

    The producers made a plea on one of the Sci-fi Channel web forums to not download the show since the survival of the series (i.e. Season 2) of course depends on ratings. Even with a business degree, I simply cannot understand why companies stagger the release dates on movies, music, or software so much. Let both sides of the pond see the series at the same time and you'll get the viewers and won't screw yourself since people will get the content they want anyway. In the binary newsgroups (alt.binaries.dvdr) someone has posted 3 DVDs of the series (each containing 3 episodes) with some pretty good menus. I've watched them and think it is a well done series, and think '33' is a good first episode. Even after seeing it, I will have my TIVO pick up the episodes since I know TIVO collects anonymous statistics for the ratings systems. To make sure the show is recorded as being played, I'll just start the episode before turning off my TV for the day, ensuring that it gets marked as being watched, with even commercials being displayed at normal speed!

    At least the studio talking heads are not pulling some bonehead move like they did with 'Firefly' in that the episodes were all resead out of order, thus cunfusing the initial audience and obviously causing an untimely death. Maybe with the movie, the series might have a new chance at life if it does well.

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  31. Seen the first 10 episodes. by rikkards · · Score: 2, Informative

    Suprnova was good for it. Actually the show is quite good. I would say less cheesy than the original. The biggest difference is that Boomer and Starbuck are girls. But the plotline is quite interesting.

    The battle scenes are good as well but this whole "shaky cam" thing gets annoying especially the quick zoom they do a lot.

    Worth watching I would say but YMMV

  32. Huh. Your TV doesn't report what you watch! by guidryp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unless you have a Neilson box. TVs don't report in what you watch. At least mine doesn't... I hope... (glances at tv in fear) ... Gotta go!

  33. ALERT!! The enemy is only microns away by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Funny
    My favorite [bad] memory of BG:TOS was the warning that the Cylon fighters were only microns away. I always figured that meant they were burrowing through the hull paint of the Galactica by now.

    It pulled me out of my suspension of disbelief every time.

    Never destroyed my fantasies about Maren Jensen however.

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  34. Re:I am so hoping that this is the shot in the arm by slashdot_commentator · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I thought me had it with Farscape for a bit, but it feel apart. It was good for the first couple seasons, but then it went off track and the casual watcher (to survive a show needs to be accessible the casual watcher) couldn't keep up with the plot twists and the cast changes. This killed the show...

    It only killed the show for the casual viewer. Plot twists & cast changes made the show dynamic, not moribund in its storyline. Nothing stops a viewer from buying DVD sets now (or whatever) and catching up.

    StarGate I still love but lately it just seems a bit Earth bound, I have hopes for the second half of the season. And we know there will be a 9th now...the replicators in the new human form lurk and I think this is the way to bring new interesting plots the G'uld, have run thier course for now...

    The problem with SG-1 (besides being moribund) is that the charm of the show was the character dialog and chemistry, and that is falling apart with Hammond, Dr. Frazier, and especially O'Neill leaving. (It would be dead without Jackson, but he's back.) I'm not against semi-radical change, but change itself won't keep a show alive. I feel inner conflict generates the best entertainment, but there definitely is less of that now. And I think making Carter the SG-1 leader really screws up the role she used to do, and she's not going to fill O'Neill's boots with his role.

    What's really gives me a bad feeling is grafting on Ben Browder and Claudia Black (from Farscape) onto SG-1. Don't get me wrong, I luuurve them as actors. But you can have great actors and still produce crap. And recycling characters personalities you love threatens stagnation.

    My feeling is that they should have made a cleaner slate and threw the Farscape refugees onto Atlantis. Even if you think the SG-1 theme hasn't been played out (and I don't), the character development definitely has. They should have had a cleaner break, retired SG-1, and reattempted a new SG-1 with different themes and actors. They are sort of doing that now, but no clean break is going to compound the problem. They're looking to use the soap opera formula to maintain the show. Soap operas have a tendency to produce crap. Its a Berman-like move.

    Enterprise sucks. It is not remotely good. A galactic war will not save it. And there was plenty in the Trek cannon for wars. (Hellooo, Romulans.) Enterprise is the corporate rape of a great sci-fi TV show. Or look at Enterprise as wasp larva and Trek as the unfortunate silkworm.

    Atlantis? eh. It suffers from the sequel syndrome for mediocrity. And I don't like how they are writing Dr. McKay. He has to be a central character (given the sci-fi nature of the show and that he's the only non-vanilla personality). You can't make him an incompetent, craven clown in one episode, and a noble goto guy in another episode.

    With Atlantis, they try to keep the SG-1 accoutrements, and then do a Voyager. I think they're better off doing a DS9. They'd really be better if they just did something new.
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  35. Re:This show is great by K. · · Score: 2, Informative

    I never really got into it, It was too crude and garish (CG, costumes, alien make-up). And the story (what I saw) wasn't compelling enough to help me suspend my disbelief and get over that.

    That's one good thing a bout the new BG, IMO. They don't try too hard to create a complete and completely different world. They sketch it out, focus on character development and pacing, and move on. You can buy a lot of the props in your local office supply, but because you really don't notice, such is the strength of the script. (There's one scene in a later episode where Baltar is using a calculator-like thing, it's actually a collapsible travel alarm clock just like one I used to have. But it's just a quick cutaway shot, so it doesn't matter. Look at headsets and such as well, they're generally cobbled together from $5 earphones.)

    No doubt if it does well and lasts a couple of seasons it'll jump the shark and acquire bumpy-headed humanoid aliens and I'll lose interest, but right now it's creating its world through its characters, not a constraining backstory involving N years of alien history. This to my mind is a good thing, because it makes for good sci-fi but also makes it accessible on the level of drama.

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  36. No point by ucblockhead · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unless you are a Nielson family, whether or not you watch or not doesn't matter.

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