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RadioShark for Windows and Mac OS X

Quantrell writes "Ars Technica has done a very thorough review of the AM/FM radio time-shifting device radioSHARK. I was surprised when I read it, because I thought it was Mac-only. Actually the device has good Windows support, and their review shows that some of the problems experienced by early adopters have been solved with recent updates to the product. That said, there are actually some considerable flaws with the product, so buyer beware." There's a lot more meat on this review than this story which was a lot more glowing of a review.

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  1. Looking for a job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

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  2. Nice, but... by jdehnert · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got mine for Chistmas, and it's nice, however I get really bad reception in my house.

    They really NEED to get the capability to tune into internet radio as well, then all will be well.

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    1. Re:Nice, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They really NEED to get the capability to [...]

      Or else ... what?

  3. I'm not sure I would need this by snuf23 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seeing as almost all of our local stations have been consumed by mega-corporations such as Clear Channel. We have nice exciting playlists that repeat about once a half hour.
    I guess for sports, national public radio and the like this might be a cool thing. Or for college radio shows that play at odd hours (it always seems that the only shows I like are on at 3 in the morning).

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    1. Re:I'm not sure I would need this by kaustik · · Score: 1

      This would actually be great for the Howard Stern show, which has no recorded (or live) Internet feed. At least not an "official" one.

    2. Re:I'm not sure I would need this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      great newsgroup: alt.binaries.howard-stern

      the uploads from splootch are the best

    3. Re:I'm not sure I would need this by gotr00t · · Score: 1
      This is the reason why the iPod is so popular even though it lacks FM radio, a feature that even the cheapest flash players probably have by now.

      Try as you may, you will not find a radio station that does not play absolute crap these days, which is why we want to listen to our own music that we carry around in our pockets.

    4. Re:I'm not sure I would need this by nrdlnd · · Score: 1

      I agree!

      This is nothing for Slashdot at all! Completely uninteresting (except saying no to). It's NOT multiplatform just unintersting proprietay stuff!

      Better Slashdot - pleae!

    5. Re:I'm not sure I would need this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod parent "+5 brain-washed moron leftie."

  4. For Howard Stern by oscast · · Score: 1

    I set mine to record Howard Stern at 5:30 am and stop at 10:30... then offset it to my ipod and then listen to the whole show at my leisure.

  5. Lawsuit? by slapout · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm surprised RadioShack isn't suing them over the name.

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    1. Re:Lawsuit? by mboverload · · Score: 1

      I had to read it 3 times before I realized it was SHARK and not SHACK.

    2. Re:Lawsuit? by rsborg · · Score: 4, Funny
      I'm surprised RadioShack isn't suing them over the name.

      I hear that the case is being heard in Baaaston.

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  6. RIAA Attorneys: Swarm, swarm, swarm! by bigtallmofo · · Score: 3, Funny

    It shouldn't be long before the RIAA attorneys start swarming all over this product like angry yellow-jackets that are being squirt with a hose.

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  7. tvtuner by sPaKr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why not get a Happuaguge tv tuner card that comes with a FM reciever? The radio tuner alone would have to be several factors cheaper then the TV card to make this a good buy, and its not.

    1. Re:tvtuner by Linker3000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...but make sure you track down some third party software to work with it - Hauppauge may make some nifty tuners but in my experience (with several of their products) their software always sucks big time - I wish these guys would hire some decent user interface programmers/designers.

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    2. Re:tvtuner by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I don't think a radio-only tuner would ever be several factors cheaper. The parts count wouldn't go down a whole lot on a PCI card, the board wouldn't be a whole lot smaller, the parts won't be a whole lot cheaper, if at all. The difference here is that it is a USB device, a fair comparison would be vs. an external video capture device.

      But a PCI TV & FM tuner isn't that bad of an idea if you have a PCI slot. Laptops don't. This would be unweildy for a mobile, but plug it in at home and it's not a problem.

    3. Re:tvtuner by yamla · · Score: 1

      Hear hear. Their software is bad enough that I'm not sure I'd want to buy from them again, despite generally glowing reviews with their hardware under Linux.

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    4. Re:tvtuner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because I want AM radio to record ballgames!!

    5. Re:tvtuner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -Why not get a Happuaguge tv tuner card that comes -with a FM reciever?

      Cause you might want to record AM talk radio?

    6. Re:tvtuner by the+pickle · · Score: 1

      Dude, no offence, but the RadioShark software is probably just as bad, if not worse. I've got one, and the software is absolutely atrocious. I enjoy it in spite of the software, not because of it.

      Fortunately, I didn't pay anything for it, because I'd be returning it if I had.

      p

    7. Re:tvtuner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Happuaguge... reet, reet, 419 degrees furiously Fahrenheit. Is there another person left in America who can spell?

      Hauppage: http://hauppage.com/

    8. Re:tvtuner by Mr_Whoopass · · Score: 1

      Two very small reasons actually...

      1) A
      2) M

      I am not aware of any other pc radio tuners that have both AM and FM. Most decent talk radio is uxclusively AM and from the sounds of the people in here, that's what a large percentage are after.

    9. Re:tvtuner by slantyyz · · Score: 1

      I have the Leadtek Winfast TV Tuner with FM. While it may not have AM like the shark does, the UI is more than satisfactory for scheduling the recording of FM broadcasts. Can't say the same about Hauppage's product, as I've never tried it.

  8. Nice review, but ... by madro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had a difficult time reconciling the fact that the following two statements are in the same review:

    Say you're listening to All Things Considered and Nina Totenberg is about to make an especially poignant point about the day's oral arguments at the Supreme Court ...

    If you're listening to your favorite top 40 radio station and the newest Ashlee Simpson tune comes on and you want to save it ...

    Yikes! Still, I think the pause feature may be a nice Tivo-ish thing, but the Season Pass concept will probably be better covered by podcasting. (Actually, there was a feature on podcasting on NPR's Day to Day: you can listen to it here, but alas, not as a podcast.)

  9. I was surprised too... by GillBates0 · · Score: 1
    ...but that was because this is the first I ever heard of glowing meat.

    I mean sheesh...whatever will they think of next.

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  10. So let's get this straight- NO mp3 support? by SuperBanana · · Score: 1
    Maybe I don't remember the original review mentioning this, but neither PC nor Mac version records to MP3?

    You gotta be kidding, right? No, I don't want to bloody record to AIFF and then have to use applescript to feed it to iTunes etc etc...

    1. Re:So let's get this straight- NO mp3 support? by Absentminded-Artist · · Score: 2, Informative

      RadioSHARK software records in both AAC and AIFF on Macs. Plus it imports directly into iTunes. So no panic or angst or work on your part is necessary. ;)

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    2. Re:So let's get this straight- NO mp3 support? by Milican · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in that as well. For now I wrote a batch file that converts WAV files to MP3 using a command line version of LAME. Its not pretty, but it gets the job done.

      I figure eventually I'll either finish up a short VBScript and execute it via a cron job, or I'll write a VB application. I don't know VB, but I don't want to turn this into a fullscale project. I just want my files in MP3 format :(

      JOhn

    3. Re:So let's get this straight- NO mp3 support? by renderhead · · Score: 1

      I'm not trying to be a smartass or a format evangelist here, but why are you insisting on MP3 format? AAC is just as good or better for most purposes, and as you mentioned, you can record uncompressed and convert it to any format you like.

      Now that I think about it more, I supposed you'd want MP3 if you use a portable player that only supports MP3 files, or if you use a Mac and your player needs WMA or MP3. Still, it's not a surprising decision on the part of the developers. Apple has been doing well with AAC, and Griffin specializes in Apple products. Not to mention that MP3 requires a license to use legally in commercial products.

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  11. repeating playlists... by TheHawke · · Score: 2, Funny

    You want to talk about repeats:

    http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/1 0/ 1338207&tid=176&tid=1
    http://apple.slashdot.org/a rticle.pl?sid=04/09/29/ 1521201&tid=141&tid=137&tid=3

    Make this one a threepeat!

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    1. Re:repeating playlists... by stephenisu · · Score: 1

      Make this one a threepeat!

      I believe on FARK, this would be refered to as a "tri-fecta".

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    2. Re:repeating playlists... by damiam · · Score: 1

      No, it wouldn't - a trifecta is composed of three different stories containing a similar element - for example, if three noted musicians died, or if there were three stories about high-school boys having sex with their teachers. A /.-style threepeat (aka "tripe") is simply the same story posted three times.

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  12. I use mine for Concert tickets. by stephenisu · · Score: 1

    Many radio stations have websites that you earn points on by answering questions about stuff they play/say at a specific time of day.

    Mine records all of the countdowns (that happen while I work)

    I redeam points, and earn lots of free tickets to concerts, that and it is usefull for recording select radio shows.

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  13. Why'd they leave out internet streams and XM? by Arbac · · Score: 0

    "It cannot be used to listen to satellite radio or broadcasts streamed over the Internet"

    One has to wonder why they left this out. It seems like it would be a popular function. It's already hooked upto your computer. There's no reason (other than legal issues?) not to support time-shifting internet streams. I can't image there being any legal issues that prevent it, that don't already apply to time-shifting broadcast radio.

    And not supporting satellite radio? I'd think they're be a larger market for this if the included it. Maybe even work out a deal with XM or something, providing time-shifting on all their recievers.

    It looks like a good product, and a great idea, but I don't understand why they left those functions out. It can't have simply been an oversight, since it's just to obvious of an idea.

    1. Re:Why'd they leave out internet streams and XM? by Absentminded-Artist · · Score: 2, Insightful
      One guess: cost. Adding a satellite radio tuner would add a considerable amount of cost to the unit. I imagine the price would easily double.

      As for streamed broadcasts, this would be a feature of the radioSHARK software, not the hardware. I think Griffin is lucky their software runs at all at this point, nevermind having the ability to grab internet streams. I imagine that feature will be implemented later in the Mac software using Applescript and iTunes since iTunes already streams internet broadcasts. I'm not holding my breath. I would recommend Mac users get RadioLover for the timed recording of internet broadcasts.

      At this point their software is very buggy and hastily assembled, IMO.

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    2. Re:Why'd they leave out internet streams and XM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OS X users should also check out http://www.irecordmusic.com/ which can time-shift any web audio, including XM and Sirius streams over the net. Can record RealAudio to MP3. I hear the next version will have OGG and FLAC support. Nice.

  14. I don't get it... by Anita+Coney · · Score: 3, Informative

    Over at newegg you can buy a WinFast TV2000 XP PCI card for about $36 shipped. It has both a TV tuner and AM/FM radio. You can scedule records for both TV and radio broadcasts. Why would ANYONE spend $70 for the RadioShark? Does looking "cool" really sway people that much?

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    1. Re:I don't get it... by grub · · Score: 4, Insightful


      Does looking "cool" really sway people that much?

      It works for Apple, car companies, clothing manufacturers, et al ad nauseum. So... yes :)

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    2. Re:I don't get it... by phaetonic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I use a laptop you insensitive clod!

    3. Re:I don't get it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think WinFast has AM, which matters to me.

    4. Re:I don't get it... by idiosynchronic · · Score: 1

      This Card? Unfortunately, no, it doesn't have an AM tuner in it. Belive me, I wish it did, because I'd use it to record all sorts of AM-only programming.

      These TV boards are easy to set up with a radio - FM and VHF TV signals interlap in spectra. AM Radio requires another piece of tuner hardware mated to the device.

      Of course, someone brainier than me will now correct my usage of the word spectra . .

    5. Re:I don't get it... by t482 · · Score: 1

      why not just use mplayer/vsound + sched?

    6. Re:I don't get it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      - you don't watch TV, anyway
      - you don't have any way to get TV
      - you don't have a (free) PCI slot
      - you want to move it between computers easily
      -

    7. Re:I don't get it... by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      So Anita sez:

      "Over at newegg you can buy a WinFast TV2000 XP PCI card for about $36 shipped. It has both a TV tuner and AM/FM radio. You can scedule records for both TV and radio broadcasts. Why would ANYONE spend $70 for the RadioShark? Does looking "cool" really sway people that much?"

      Anita, where does one plug a PCI card into a PowerBook or a ThinkPad?

      A LOT of people have only a laptop/notebook as their only computer.

      And what of those folks who have an iMac? There are no PCI slots in ANY iMac.

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  15. Re:RIAA Attorneys: Swarm, swarm, swarm! by ravenspear · · Score: 1

    The RIAA can go to hell. Sony v. Universal clearly established the legality of timeshifting devices such as this.

  16. RDS support? by David+Horn · · Score: 1

    I was surprised to read that no RDS (Radio Data System) is supported. RDS is used by every radio station in the UK and makes it a darned sight easier to tune in and know what station you're listening to, along with information about presenters / shows and so on.

    Do you not have RDS in America, or is it an oversight by the developers?

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    1. Re:RDS support? by Paolo+DF · · Score: 1

      I remember reading in my car audio equipment manual, that in the US they don't have RDS.
      As well as they don't have Teletext yet IIRC.
      But then we don't have CloseCaptions. We just developed different ways of doing things sometimes. And I like this.

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    2. Re:RDS support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't believe it's very widespread. Most radios I've used don't support it. I can only think of one that did, and it was a very expensive in-dash aftermarket system. Even then, only the more powerful stations were sending any data.

    3. Re:RDS support? by jkmiecik · · Score: 1

      We (USA) have RDS. It's just not prominent in stock radio headers for cars. Check any higher end header and you'll see it supports RDS.

    4. Re:RDS support? by syukton · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure we're RDS-less.

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    5. Re:RDS support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Yes, it's in the US. I drove a relative's new Buick recently, and the factory radio was displaying song names and station call letters for most stations. Pretty much any new radio will have it.

      I wonder why it was left out of this device? Maybe support can be added with updated software/firmware.

    6. Re:RDS support? by fireduck · · Score: 3, Informative

      RDS support in the US is spotty. My 99 Audi's factory stereo has it, and RDS signal broadcasting is mixed. Public radio tends to be very good about broadcasting it, while some stations broadcast it intermittently (maybe a particular dj, often it'll be several songs behind, sometime poor spelling), and still others never broadcast the signal.

      I was a little dissapointed when my wife bought the ipod radio broadcaster thingy (iWhatchamacallit?), and it didn't have an RDS signal broadcasting the mp3 tag info. Seems that would have been perfect feature to include.

    7. Re:RDS support? by kitzilla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      RDS adoption is growing. it's certainly worth adding to Radio Shark.

      I agree this gizmo would be cooler if it recorded streams, too. Think I'll still buy one, if only to aircheck the other morning shows while we do ours.

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    8. Re:RDS support? by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      Toyota Camrey w/ 6D changer has it.
      I love it. Who's on? like 'em? cool, hate 'em? switch. Makes channel surfing far more efficent.
      -nB

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    9. Re:RDS support? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      There's a new technology some US stations are using called "HD Radio" (like HD TV I guess,) which supposedly broadcasts digital CD-quality sound along with the type of information you're talking about: song titles, albums, artists, name of the DJ, show name, etc.

      Problem is, a reciever for it costs $800. YIKES! I'll just buy an iPod and a FM transmitter for that price.

    10. Re:RDS support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you know what the difference between an Audi and a porcupine is?

      With a porcupine the pricks are on the outside.

    11. Re:RDS support? by David+Horn · · Score: 1

      Yeah, we have that too. At the moment, reception is a bit patchy in some parts of the country, and unlike FM, if the signal is bad, you can't listen to it at all.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/dab

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  17. Linux support by Eric+Smith · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I've hacked a little bit on trying to get Linux support going. The RadioShark acts as an Audio-class device for the audio (logically enough), and a HID-class device for the tuning. I think I'm able to send tuning commands to it, but I can't confirm that as I haven't yet gotten ALSA configured correctly to deal with the audio.

    Is it just me, or is configuring ALSA a black art?

    1. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFM. Thank you.

    2. Re:Linux support by stephenisu · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is it just me, or is configuring ALSA a black art?

      Black art.. no

      It's more of a spiritual quest on the path to total enlightenment. Truly a study in the art of Zen.

      The trick is learning how to configure it for hardware that will not work with it. Think about it.

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    3. Re:Linux support by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1

      I have Read The Fine Manual. It's frigging complicated, which is why I'm having trouble with it. If configuring sound on Windows was this complicated, almost no Windows users would have sound.

    4. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      which make it just like linux for most people, no sound.

  18. I don't get it...Netcraft: Radio is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do people still listen to AM? Let alone the radio?

    1. Re:I don't get it...Netcraft: Radio is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not a red-stater, eh?

      All-news formats and AM talk radio shows are alive and well.

    2. Re:I don't get it...Netcraft: Radio is dead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention baseball games. I've been waiting a long time for an AM computer interface so I can have it record games when I'm away.

  19. actually.... by de1orean · · Score: 1

    what we need is a radio time-shifting device to take us back in time to before Michael Powell and CLearChannel and others completely gutted the antitrust and media-aggregation laws.

    now that, i'd buy.

    1. Re:actually.... by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny

      One existed but sadly ClearChannel sent cyborgs back in time to kill the inventor.

    2. Re:actually.... by snuf23 · · Score: 1

      So they time-shifted a cyborg?

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    3. Re:actually.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whatever. Have fun listening to them whine for funding on NPR you leftie brainwashed weenie.

  20. Replay Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    May be a bit offtopic but I bought this annoying program that basically played the audio streams out loud (when you didnt' want to hear it) instead of just recording them. The icing on the cake was the 100 meg mp3 files (which by the way weren't encoded in real time) which contained hours of silence. So it only lets you hear shit when you dont want to.

  21. nifty. but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    no Linux drivers...

    i do like my GE SuperRadio 3 for AM Talk shows...

    has the best reception for an AM internal ferrite rod antenna, for a portable under 100 dollars...

  22. Did anyone else read this as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... RadioShack for Windows and MacOS? Man, I thought they only sold Tandys.

  23. Because lots of people would never use a card by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Informative

    The whole reason it costs more is because it needs a case and power supply the PCI card does not have.

    The reason why people would pay for this is because there are not that many people who want to install cards in the computer compared to the set of computer users as a whole.

    I personally would not buy a Radio Shark, but that's because radio has just about nothing I care to listen to.

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    1. Re:Because lots of people would never use a card by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      Yeah, reading and using a screw driver are SO complicated!

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    2. Re:Because lots of people would never use a card by AceCaseOR · · Score: 1
      However, according to reviews I've read, the documentation for the TV2000 XP blows. Furthermore, I did not get the impression that the TV2000 lets you record radio, just listen. The RadioShark lets you record (which is my main priority).

      As it is, the RadioShark looks like something to go on my "Buy One Of These Days" lists, as I often end up missing Dr. Demento, and "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me".

      However, my big question is with compression and editing. One of the radio shows I'd be recording would be a morning show I enjoy, the Mark & Brian show. However, rather than keeping the bits I don't want, how well does editing the recorded files work?

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    3. Re:Because lots of people would never use a card by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      First, I've never needed to look at the documentation, so I can't comment on it. But the fact that I didn't need it means the product is pretty easy to use.

      Regarding recording radio, I've never actually USED the feature, so I had to go over to my Windows box and check, but you can schedule records of radio in either MP3, wav, or WMA formats.

      If you recorded in wav format you could it edit using any sound software without losing any quality.

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    4. Re:Because lots of people would never use a card by alienw · · Score: 1

      The main reason it costs more is quantity. We are talking probably a production run of 5000 units or less for this thing versus a few hundred thousand for a TV card. This constitutes a very substantial price difference as far as components go.

    5. Re:Because lots of people would never use a card by AceCaseOR · · Score: 1

      How does programming work for radio (in terms of recording at certain times). How about radio time-shifting (pausing live radio & so forth), and how is the sound quality?

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  24. What I plan on doing. by Jozone · · Score: 1

    I dont have this device yet, but when I do buy it I plan on setting it up on an extra PC at my parents house. I am going to have it scheduled to record radio programs (that can only heard in the Boston market), so that I can then access the directory it stores them in via FTP. Finally, I will get to hear my Hillman Morning Show once again.

  25. Re:RIAA Attorneys: Swarm, swarm, swarm! by idontgno · · Score: 0, Troll
    Sony v. Universal clearly established the legality of timeshifting devices such as this.

    "Clearly"? OK. "Permanently"? Sorry, wrong answer. Any precedent can be overturned if the plaintiff buys the appropriate combination of presiding judge, jury, and venue. And each new "infringing technology" introduced to the marketplace gives *AA another shot at re-establishing its hegemony.

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  26. If only there was something worth listening to by MagPulse · · Score: 1

    The only two things I listen to are NPR, which pretty much has everything online for you to listen to at your convenience, and a music station which repeats everything every hour anyway.

    They need one of these for online radio streams with a comprehensive catalog. The catalog alone would be a great help.

    1. Re:If only there was something worth listening to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only two things I listen to are NPR ... and a music station

      What, no balance there? No listening to Air America, Fox News?

      Can narrow minded mean listening to NPR only?

  27. Radioshack? Why would I buy anything from them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who give a shite what Radioshack is selling? I don't care if they're selling Windows or Mac OS's for cheap or having Howie Long shill their crap. They blow.

  28. Public domain here ???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given that scientists and researchers have recently lobbied for open access to government funded scientific research, can we demand the same open access and eventual public domain status of government funded art, music, TV stations, and NPR programs?

  29. Why bother when there's StreamRipper? by dudeman2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems like the market for this is limited. StreamRipper lets me download most radio stations' MP3 streaming audio. Mplayer with some addons allows me to download RealAudio streams which can be converted to MP3. I've got this all automated via cron job to download NPR news, This American Life, plus foreign radio broadcasts for later playback. Plus I can download multiple streams simultaneously, and no worries about poor reception.

    1. Re:Why bother when there's StreamRipper? by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      That works for those stations that have streams, and which have the bandwidth for their streams. I listen to a couple of stations that routinely get swamped (KLOS and KFI) during the popular shows, and being able to listen without that hassle would be great. And since I can't listen at work, it would be nice to be able to record the shows and catch them when I get home.

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    2. Re:Why bother when there's StreamRipper? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do different things. StreamRipper downloads MP3 streams from the internet; RadioShark deals with AM/FM radio broadcasts.

      Or maybe you're making a bunch of assumptions:
      - the station you want to hear has as MP3 stream
      - the stream will never skip, and your network connection will never go down
      - an MP3 stream sounds as good as FM radio ...

      Why bother with movie theatres when there's DVDs? (Granted, many don't -- I usually don't -- but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for it.)

  30. OT, but you DID mention college radio by vbdrummer0 · · Score: 1
    I don't want to post a commercial on here, so I'll put up a disclaimer: I don't live in the Boston area, and I don't like Harvard.

    Be that as it may, though, Harvard has the best college radio station, and one the best radio stations at all, that I've ever heard. It's WHRB FM out of Cambridge, Mass. It (typically) plays decent classical music during the day, underground rock in the evening, and jazz at night, so there's something for everybody. There's a webstream at the link if y'all feel like listening.

    1. Re:OT, but you DID mention college radio by friendscallmelenny · · Score: 1

      Not to pick a fight but Univ. of North Carolina's station WXYC kicks arse and was the first to broadcast on the net. More info at ibiblio

    2. Re:OT, but you DID mention college radio by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 1

      I'll put my cents in for University of Michigan's WCBN, who were another early net broadcaster, as well as being one of the older student-run college radio stations about (33 years on FM, and 53 years on air).

      They also play ridiculously good music on their freeform blocks, and have some amazing specialty shows.

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    3. Re:OT, but you DID mention college radio by vbdrummer0 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but as a Buckeye, I on principle can't check it out. :)

    4. Re:OT, but you DID mention college radio by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 1

      It's okay; from experience, 99% of the staff hate U of M sports just as much as you do. :)

      (I, on the other hand, would like your entire football team to choke and die... just like mine did at the Horseshoe. See ya in the Big House this year!)

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  31. Griffin: nice hardware, lousy software by sjonke · · Score: 3, Informative

    If it were me, I wouldn't buy it. Why? I have several Griffin products and the thing that is common between all of them is that the software sucks to start with and the software never really gets fixed. Case in point - I have a Griffin PowerMate USB rotary controller. To this day it does not work properly with multiple users in Mac OS X. By this I mean *both* there being more than one account on the system with each account logged in to at different times, as well as greater issues with having multiple accounts logged in at the same time (fast user switching.)

    In the former case the issue is relatively minor, but still annoying. In some accounts rotating the knob to adjust system volume does not provide visual or audible feedback. In other accounts it does. Relatively minor, but still very annoying.

    In the case of fast user switching it's a substantial problem. What happens is that the software continues to run even in the background accounts, the net result is that using the PowerMate produces unpredictable results. You can see the volume go up and then jump to some entirely different volume because it's adjust both in your account, and the one in background, fighting for control. Or you might be rotating to move "play head" in iMovie, but at the same time it changes system volume. Etc. Even more fun with 3 or more accounts logged in!

    It's not like Fast User Switching (introduced in 10.3) was just released. They should have had this fixed long ago, and the best I could get out of Griffin's difficult to contact tech support was that they were aware of the problem but couldn't say when (perhaps not even if) it will be resolved.

    Buyer beware of anything Griffin makes that involves software that they write. I know I won't be buying any more Griffin products no matter how cool they sound.

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  32. Reception is terrible by skarth · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a RadioShark, and the reception is very poor no matter where I place it (other radio receivers in the same area work fine). It is so bad that I haven't even tried the time shifting feature yet, since the sound that you end up getting is very painful to listen to anyway.

    They say that plugging in headphones to the RadioShark will improve reception, but it seems to have no effect at all.

    Is there some other kind of antenna that can be plugged into it to improve the reception?

    1. Re:Reception is terrible by finny · · Score: 1

      For me, Radio Shack had the answer to my Radio Shark reception woes.

      Ask them for their 20' Stereo Headphone Extension Cord and plug it in, you don't need any actual headphones since it's just serving as an antenna. I haven't heard any static since.

    2. Re:Reception is terrible by zonker · · Score: 0

      a few thoughts... first, how well is your computer case insulated from rfi? do you have one of those big plastic windows on the side of your case? are you sitting next to any other electronic equipment? is there a power transformer outside your window?

      you probably have thought of some of these, but i thought i'd throw the idea at you in case you didn't. anyway, there could be other issues that could be affecting reception not just the lack of an antenna...

  33. RadioTime? by tbisaacs · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I work for http://www.radiotime.com/, we are working hard to bring "TiVo for radio" to fruition. We're flying low under the radar as we develop the service, but expect to "launch" in march.

    The RadioShark is a great piece of hardware but fails in the biggest area that makes TiVo great-the guide. What good is recording radio if you don't know what is on and where it's coming from. The heart of our service is our guide, it covers am/fm, internet, and xm/sirius radio, and soon will have full rss/podcasting support. To quote our website, we have "35,000 stations in 140 countries. 100,000 sports games per year."

    We have both mac and pc clients, though the mac client is still very early in development. Recordings are made as simple mp3 files, and even get dumped into itunes. The mac client supports the RadioShark, the pc version will very soon.

    We're always looking for great feedback to help us improve the service. Sign up is free for unlimited listening.

    1. Re:RadioTime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to record ballgames off my local AM station. Do you support this? Will you? What hardwate is necessary?

    2. Re:RadioTime? by Angostura · · Score: 1

      I just had a look and downloaded the Mac client. Now, I'm probably very very stupid, but the service was as intuitive as a fish with a pig in its mouth.

      For goodness sake, get someone to rewrite the 'What is Radiotime' page to succintly and clearly explain what it is and how you use it.

      "Your workout...your commute...your talk...your radio.

      Declare yourself dial free. Free from predetermined programming times. Free from simply local choices. Now you can have radio when you want it, where you want it...with RadioTime."

      Is not what I want when I'm trying to comprehend something in 30 seconds.

    3. Re:RadioTime? by tbisaacs · · Score: 1
      Yes, we do. You need an AM/FM tuner to do so. We sell a USB FM tuner that is currently FM only (AM real soon). We also support several third-party tuners.

      http://www.radiotime.com/tuner-what-is.aspx Thanks for your interest.

    4. Re:RadioTime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the info. Are there currently any AM tuners besides the RadioSHARK?

    5. Re:RadioTime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No KALX. No KFJC. A "search" feature that silently returns nothing. Passwords emailed in the clear. And you just refer to pre-existing radio streams. Did you ask those stations before trying to make a buck on their streams? (Probably not necessary, but definitely polite.) Are you going to contribute to the public radio stations you carry? What happens during pledge week / month?

    6. Re:RadioTime? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      No 107.7 The End in Seattle? The station that discovered Nirvana, Pearl Jam, The Presidents of the United States of America? The station with the best DJs and least advertising on the west coast?

      But you have a million 107.8 stations in Europe... why would I want to record local shows on my favorite station when I could listen to 107.8 in Prague? (I hope the radio you sell has a LONG antenna...)

    7. Re:RadioTime? by onyxruby · · Score: 1
      So what do they call astroturfing when you freely admit the company you work for?

      That said kudos for disclosing that you work for them.

    8. Re:RadioTime? by WasterDave · · Score: 1

      We're flying low under the radar as we develop the service

      Not any more, you're not.

      Dave

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    9. Re:RadioTime? by starman97 · · Score: 1

      How does this work with satellite radio?
      I dont see any of the Sirius channels, nor any way
      to tune and timeshift a Sirius show.

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    10. Re:RadioTime? by tbisaacs · · Score: 1

      It does not time shift satellite radio, however we do cover xm and sirius data in our guide, just search for xm or sirius

  34. Some "Cons" have nothing to do with the product by KFW · · Score: 1

    Overall a fair review. But at least 2 of the "Cons" aren't really things that Griffin can control. The fact that there is no program listing for radio isn't the fault of the product, nor is the fact that when a Mac is asleep, it's asleep and things don't happen. /K

  35. OT question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assuming we ever manage to get FTL travel, could we travel to the place where 1980's (or 50's or whatever) music would be in space (excluding the fact that it will have faded to almost nothingness) and listen to it? Or perhaps watch the kennedy assassination, or some other major event similar to it?

  36. One annoying negative by Vile+Slime · · Score: 0

    With,

    My Radioshark, if you are listening "live", or rather no time shift involved, the Shark has a tendency to garble the sound which is output to your speakers. Almost like it is having a hard time keeping up or something.

    It records the material correctly if you listen to it a second time.

    Basically means I wind up trying to listen to everything about 3 minutes behind. But when you change stations you are immediately caught back up so you have to drag the little time shift bar back over to about 2 to 3 minutes of delay to get rid of the garbled effects. Just annoying.

    Otherwise I like the gadget.

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  37. Incompatible with File Vault!!! by Absentminded-Artist · · Score: 1
    I use my radioSHARK with an iMac running OSX 10.3.7. I record talk radio and college radio station programming that is aired at inconvenient times for me. And I utilize the time shifting feature, which works wonderfully. I don't notice reception problems any different than other radios I own. My big complaint is that the software is buggy and sometimes fails to convert the temp files into listenable audio. It's sporadic. But before I turned off file vault I couldn't get any recordings to work at all.

    radioSHARK records live radio in temp files and recording radio as a *.mov file until the recording is finished. Then it converts it to m4a format (since I have AAC format selected). The software simply could not convert the temp files under a file vault system (an encrypted home directory under OSX). It wouldn't even convert temp files stored outside of the encrypted home directory. I also noticed terrible skipping in the recordings it did manage to make.

    Once I removed file vault these problems went away (except once the other night). I'd say one more revision of the software is needed to get this program ready for prime time.

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  38. If it's a "time-shifting" device... by meme_police · · Score: 1
    ...can it shift broadcasts from the future back to now? Or is it simply a recorder that can delay content?

    "time-shifting" has got to be the most inappropriate meme ever.

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    The meme police, They live inside of my head

  39. It's a lemon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the article:

    On occasion when relaunching the application, I wouldnt be able to get anything other than what sounded like a one-second loop of a broadcast. It didnt matter which station I was tuned to, or how many times I relaunched the application, I wouldnt get any radio reception.

    After contacting the helpful tech support staff at Griffin, I was sent an updated version of the application and told to plug the radioSHARK directly into my G5 instead of my Cinema Display. Once the newer version was installed and the radioSHARK was plugged into the USB port on the front of my G5, the problem lessened, although it did not go away. After some trial and error, I determined that unplugging and replugging the radioSHARK would solve the problem.

    (My bolding.) I've had this problem too. It's unacceptable to have this on a time-shifting device. What is the magic recipe for making it not get into this broken state when you leave the computer on to record something later?

    I'm dissatisfied with this product.

  40. Too Late.. by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Seeing as almost all of our local stations have been consumed by mega-corporations such as Clear Channel. We have nice exciting playlists that repeat about once a half hour. I guess for sports, national public radio and the like this might be a cool thing. Or for college radio shows that play at odd hours (it always seems that the only shows I like are on at 3 in the morning)

    I feel it's almost a concept too late for the show. We're probably not that far from a generation which says, "AM? FM? What are these strange things you speak of? Can I get that at the iTunes store?" where all they know of is what they download or listen to over the web.

    What I need is something to record From the Web audio to my HD for later playback, and I'm pretty sure such a thing is out there if I look, or maybe just a few tricks.

    What would I want to record radio for? Unless I'm so cheep as to want to make MP3's out of music DJ's blab over.

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    1. Re:Too Late.. by R-66Y · · Score: 1

      Like Loop Recorder? I used to use Loop Recorder to time-shift the Jim Rome show while I was at work and have to save right to my desktop. It does handle internet audio, though.

      Patrick

    2. Re:Too Late.. by Cato · · Score: 1

      Try listening to NPR, BBC Radio 4 or BBC World Service - they do really good news, factual programmes and some drama. You can get all of these over the Internet if you're not in the right place, and the BBC has its own 'we TiVo it for you' service called Listen Again, which lets you listen over the Internet for a week after broadcast.

    3. Re:Too Late.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What I need is something to record From the Web audio to my HD for later playback, and I'm pretty sure such a thing is out there if I look, or maybe just a few tricks." You can use the StreamRipper Winamp plugin for Shoutcast. That works well enough, I use it for ripping an evening show, it then cuts the tracks into ID3 tagged and numbered mp3 files. Useful bit of kit.

  41. Value proportional to number of good stations by StefanJ · · Score: 1

    When I lived in the Bay Area, I listened to a LOT of radio stations. There were two full-power NPR stations alone, with very different formats.

    New York City and Pittsburgh had a pretty good variety of stations as well.

    Portland OR, where I now live, is probably better than a lot of places around the contry, but I really only listen to three or four stations, and only one has stuff I'd be interested in recording.

    So, I think I'll give this a pass.

  42. A software-only problem? by Calroth · · Score: 1

    Most people can get a radio, tune it, and connect it to the line-in (or microphone) port on their PC or Mac. Most people aren't using their line-in port. Given that, why not just let it run full time?

    Then, the only problem is needing software: software that can record from the line-in port at any time of day, encode it and dump it to a file. Or just play it through the speaker in real-time. It doesn't sound too hard, in fact, it sounds like only a few hundred lines of code, given the right libraries.

    So, I guess I'm asking, why hasn't it been done yet, or why hasn't it been made popular yet?

    1. Re:A software-only problem? by Calroth · · Score: 1

      (I realise that this is a really really really cheap solution and is a bog-standard MP3 player when you could be getting a radio equivalent of an iPod - that's the RadioShark. And you can only record one station. What other drawbacks?)

    2. Re:A software-only problem? by lupin_sansei · · Score: 1

      Because you can only record the station your radio would be tuned to, whereas the radioShark can schedule recordings on different stations and automatically tune to them.

  43. Re:RIAA Attorneys: Swarm, swarm, swarm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Then they will discover the RadioShark's hidden easter egg: frickin' laser beams!

  44. Who cares about radio on the computer? by Raccroc · · Score: 1

    I've been wanted something like this for awhile now...just not for the computer. I have 45-60 minute commute every to to and from work and have nothing better to do than listen to the radio. Problem is, the shows sucks and the times I go to and leave work.

    So, my question has always been: why doesn't someone create a Radio version of Tivo which hooks up to your car stereo a la satellite radio?

    That way ,you don't have to go into work at 6am to get your Bob & Tom or be forced to listen to sports radio during baseball season.

  45. Real Men ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... use this http://www.winradio.com/index.htm instead of a stupid plastic fin that calls itself a SHARK

  46. What is hard by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Reading and using a screwdriver are not hard.

    Figuring out how to open your case, figuring out you need to remove those metal slots from the back, figuring out which slot you can actually plug a card into. Those are things not everyone can do.

    I suppose your mother installs PCI cards for lunch. Mine however needed me to help install a new HD.

    Do you honestly think that even half of all PC users know, or would want to, open up a PC case? Get real. Why do you think those clowns at Best Buy repair centers are bristling with people doing repairs. People would rather lug a 25+ lb computer all the way to Best Buy than figure out how to install a card or HD they bought.

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    1. Re:What is hard by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      I'll say it again, if you can read the manual and use a screw driver, installing a PCI card is NOT difficult. If my 3 1/2 son can do it, without being able to read, I think ANY adult can do it.

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    2. Re:What is hard by Thing+1 · · Score: 1
      I suppose your mother installs PCI cards for lunch.

      No, mine usually has a salad.

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  47. That's what I do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use line-in and Audiograbber. In the morning, I set up the days recordings, and let it run. It dumps directly to MP3. I use 32 kps so each hour is just under 7MB. It works well.

  48. Well, sure, but... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    However, according to reviews I've read, the documentation for the TV2000 XP blows. Furthermore, I did not get the impression that the TV2000 lets you record radio, just listen. The RadioShark lets you record (which is my main priority).

    I'm sure the original poster will happily note that any old PC user can simply ditch Windows, install Wine, and grab some obscure open source radio PVR that requires "only minor code changes to compile". Even his grandmother could do that before lunch!

    Yep, no reason to buy a Radio Shark at all.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Well, sure, but... by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      Why do you find such virtue in ignorance?! And do you actually consider your self imposed ignorance any reason to spend more money for less product? Very sad.

      You can choose ignorance if you'd like, most consumers do nowadays. You must feel really comfortable in the blissfully ignorant bandwagon.

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      If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
  49. Podcasting killed the radio star by Jenova_Six · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Who needs radio when you've got Podcasting?

    I produce my own podcast once a week (TinyPodcast) on mobile technology and gadgets, and I subscribe to dozens of other podcasts. I get to listen to what I want, when I want, and it's almost invariably more interesting that what's on the radio. What's more, the only station I usually listen to anyway, NPR, is starting to podcast some of its shows, like On The Media and Tech Nation.

    I love picking up my iPod (or any other MP3 player) in the morning, and having fresh content that I've selected, not what the radio station wants me to hear.

  50. All I need... by ShadyG · · Score: 1

    ...is a device that can allow me to listen to a Lakers game broadcast some 2-3 seconds late. I very much prefer the radio announcers to the TV people, even when the game is on local TV (and don't get me started when it's on ESPN or TNT). Problem is the TV broadcast is delayed a couple seconds, plus about 1 more if I'm running it through my Replay. I can hear the announcers telling me the shot is good before it has left the shooter's hands.

    Does anyone know of a device that can allow me to tune signal delay time to that level of precision? Even something as simple as a guitar pedal or effects processor?

    1. Re:All I need... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Uh, from reading the review, it sounds like the RadioShark would be able to do this. I don't know what level of precision the time shifting uses, but from the screenshots it looks like you can shift it only a few seconds back if you're careful with your mouse.

      Or you can hit pause, wait 3 seconds, then hit resume. That should do it, also.

  51. Not so important for NPR by Wannabe+Code+Monkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Say you're listening to All Things Considered and Nina Totenberg is about to make an especially poignant point about the day's oral arguments at the Supreme Court, but nature is urgently calling. Click on the TS button, hit pause, and walk away. Nina is then cut off in midsentence. Once you take care of business, you can then return to your PC, hit play, and Nina takes up right where she left off.

    I often listen to NPR as well, not having a radio in my office I just listen to WBUR's real audio stream. With Real you can also pause the live stream and go take care of business. The buffer seems to be pretty large (I haven't hit any ceiling yet).

    I live in Boston so WBUR is my local NPR station, which is perfect. But even if your local NPR station isn't online (I think most are) you can just go ahead and listen to one that is.

    I know this product can do more, and not just for NPR, but as for that being a selling point, it just doesn't work. And Real seems to be doing a lot better now in terms of not being jerks and actually adding features that are helpful (I know quick time for windows can't pause and resume live streams... and quicktime still annoys you every time you start the application). The Helix Player and the recent Real Player on Linux is great as well. I actually wish them well these days.

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    1. Re:Not so important for NPR by the+pickle · · Score: 1

      The bad thing about RealPlayer is you can't take the content with you on an iPod (or, TTBOMK, any other portable player). Being able to take broadcasts with me on the iPod is a big part of why I like the RadioShark, in spite of its absolutely AWFUL software.

      p

    2. Re:Not so important for NPR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NPR broadcasts over the net with RealPlayer. With http://www.irecordmusic.com/ you can record RealAudio to MP3 or AAC and transfer recordings to the iPod. No need for hardware, just software. Oh, this is for Mac OSX.

  52. Neither is changing oil in a car by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Just because something is not physically hard, does not mean it's reasonable to expect everyone to do it.

    Changing oil is also easy but a lot of people do not do that, nor would you expect everyone to do it. In the same way you cannot expect everyone to be able or willing to install PCI cards.

    I noted you glossed over my point about what percentage of the PC population you really felt could handle a new card, or Best Buy service centers being full. What are they there for?

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    1. Re:Neither is changing oil in a car by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      Paying someone to change your oil is different from the present cicumstance. The RadioShark costs twice as much and lacks PVR features. While quick oil-change places cost about as much as it would to do it yourself. They work entirely on volume.

      I didn't gloss over anything. I'll say it again, any adult who can read and use a screw driver COULD install a PCI card. It's just that they choose not to. They'd rather pay twice as much for less features.

      --
      If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
  53. agreed by bach37 · · Score: 1

    Most tv card apps can record from FM also, the same way you schedule them to record a tv channel.

  54. Last paragraph of the FA by daveo0331 · · Score: 1

    So far, the recording industry has not taken too kindly to timeshifting radio. When an enterprising XM Radio subscriber wrote an application that allowed owners of the XM PCR to timeshift and record XM Radio programming, XM killed the PC version of their product. Could the radioSHARK draw that sort of attention? In the short term, it's not likely -- there's no program listing, and while recording music is easy, carving out and sharing individual tracks would be labor intensive. Those shortcomings will likely enable the radioSHARK to fly under the radar of the recording industry.

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  55. Re:RIAA Attorneys: Swarm, swarm, swarm! by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

    Judges are very, very wary about overturning Supreme Court precedent. While Sony v. Universal was a 5-4 decision, and so more easily challenged, lower courts are generally loathe to cross their superiors, and I would imagine that most cases where a Supreme Court decision is overturned is done after all lower courts ruled along the original SCOTUS guidelines.

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  56. Re:RIAA Attorneys: Swarm, swarm, swarm! by n8_f · · Score: 1

    Except in this case, the yellow jackets have the hose. If they weren't soaking us, we'd stop kicking their nest.

  57. Unbelievable by M.C.+Hampster · · Score: 1

    Is that really the attitude you have? That people who don't want to spent a whole bunch of time getting something to work, when they can simply pay a few extra dollars to save some time?

    I hate to break it to you, but for some of us, our time is more valuable than money.

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    1. Re:Unbelievable by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      First of all, it takes about five minutes to install a PCI card. That is not a "whole bunch of time." Second, it does not save a "few" extra dollars, the RadioShark costs TWICE as much and lacks PVR features. You're paying twice as much for a lot less features.

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      If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
  58. Radio Shark software for Windows sucks by Dr.+Smooth · · Score: 1
    The review really glosses over some major flaws in the Windows software:
    • no MP3 support
    • no iTunes support
    • DOESN'T RUN AS A SERVICE!!!

    Because of the last, you must leave somebody logged in and running the software in order for your scheduled recordings to record. If you want to play your files on a non-WMA-enabled device, you have to record as WAV and then write your own automation to convert to MP3. Then you still have to manually import the files into iTunes.

    I don't think there's much hope of trying to run the existing software as a service, since it launches the GUI and turns on the audio when you launch it! D'oh!

    The packaging is really misleading, suggesting that there is more direct iTunes support.

    But it does work if the software is running. But honestly, how much more work would it have taken to make it a true Windows service? Lame.

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    ...if you ask no questions, beware of lies...

  59. Why do you find virtue in needless toil? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Unlike you, I actually place value on my own time - time spent installing a stupid PCI card could be better spent talking to a friend or reading.

    Furthermore I am smarter than to expect every person on the planet to place value in being able to field-strip a PC in fourteen seconds. Just as everyone is not good at math, science, or writing, not everyone can be handy with PC's.

    I myself am quite handy, I'm sure far more capable than you at PC tinkering. But I gave that up long ago when I realize my time was better spent elsewhere in the application of my brain, not mindless manual labor.

    I find your value of money above all else to be mind-boggling - you should instead of pondering how much you can save here or there in dollars instead think of what you can do with the life you have that provides value to yourself or others. But then your weird selfish ideas that everyone must be as exactly skilled as yourself undoubtedly leaves little room for compassion or open-mindedness.

    You can choose mindless manual labor if you like, as most of the lower class do nowadays - You must feel comfortable with the cars up in blocks on your front lawn. After all, you can fix them so why use a shop for repairs? Why buy a new car at all when you can get most of the parts from Cleetus down at the junkyard and whip yourself up your own General Lee. Yee-Haw!

    The difference between myself and you is that I am not only smart enough to do my own PC or car work, but I am smart enough to know when not to - and cases when others may be better off without the manual route as well.

    Damn luddite.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Why do you find virtue in needless toil? by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      It takes FIVE mintues to install a PCI card! Five frigging minutes. With the Winfast you'd pay half as much AND get a PVR at the same time! Is that five minutes really worth that?

      I'll ask it again, why is ignorance so important to you? You seem to have a low opinion of Cleetus, but at least he has the brains to fix something.

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      If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
  60. Your other card... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Your other card costs half as much, takes more time to install, and lacks Radio PVR features - which are kind of the point of the Radio Shark. The thing is - who wants to record over the air TV on teh computer? That is not a PVR, sorry. For most people PVR means Cable.

    I'd say if you set out to get a radio PVR and instead managed to get a harder to use crippled Video PVR, that you have an issue.

    I'll say it again, you cannot expect even a majority of PC users to actually open a case where they could possibly shock something or accidentally disconnect something, and expect them to install a card. It's not going to happen regardless of them being able to read and wield a screwdriver. Some people are just very afriad of computers, and I know a lot of eople who can read and work tools quite well that should NOT be inside a PC case.

    What you are saying is that you expect everyone on earth to be able to do everything you do just as well. It's unreasonable and I think really not very nice to call people that are unwilling to do this an idiot just because it seems natural to you.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Your other card... by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      Sure, it takes more time to install. About five minutes more. How long does it take you to put in a PCI card?

      And it does have radio "PVR" features. I have three of them. I know.

      And who says the WinFast only records over the air? I records cable too? Where are you getting your wacky information?!

      And I'll say it again until you refute it, if you're an adult, and if you can read, and of you can use a screw driver, you can install a PCI card. IT IS NOT HARD! It has nothing to do with my abilities, it's simply easy to do.

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  61. Ok, wrong about it not PVR'ing radio... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Bu tthe rest still sands. You cannot realistically expect everyone to do everything manually.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Ok, wrong about it not PVR'ing radio... by Anita+Coney · · Score: 1

      What rest?! I'll say it again, any adult who can read and use a screw driver can install a PCI card. Have you refuted that?

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      If someone says he and his monkey have nothing to hide, they almost certainly do.
  62. Women by ari_j · · Score: 1
    Does looking "cool" really sway people that much?
    It works for Apple, car companies, clothing manufacturers, et al ad nauseum. So... yes :)
    You forgot women.
  63. Recepection is really crappy... Beware! by wesochuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just picked one up at my apple store. It was "refreshed", which means that someone bought and returned it. I know why they did now.

    The reception is pretty crappy for me. I'm trying to tune a FM station that is broadcast locally from about 3 blocks away from my house and I mostly get static. I've got the Shark sitting in my upstairs window and am using a Sagean ANT-60, which is plugged into the mic port and unwound about 15 feet creating a "web" in the window (I've also tried various other positions and poses, with and without the Sagean antenna). There are several stations that I pickup with any other radio tuner that I own (even the on tiny FM tuner for my rio mp3 player). I'm also using the latest version of the software for the Mac Version; 1.0.3 (RS59).

    I'm going to try the trick mentioned by some of purchasing a USB extension and wrapping it around the unit and see if that helps. If not, I'm returning it myself.

    I'm disappointed, and I think that this will turn me off of other Griffin products. I had be considering the PowerWave for some time, but there are other USB audio input devices on the market. The only other "saving grace" would be if the tuning software worked for Internet Radio stations (including Windows media), but it sounds like those plans have been scrapped.

    Check the return policy on this item if you buy it.

    PS I do think that it is cruel that the only station that the unit will "seek" to is a FM Country station broadcast from several counties away.

  64. need at least a G4 by ksheff · · Score: 1

    I have a RadioShark and it works well. However, I was disappointed when it arrived that I could never get their application to record audio. It somewhat worked on XP, but had stuttering problems. In order to record shows, I ended up getting Audio Hijack and used it to treat the RadioShark as an audio input device. However, once I upgraded from a G3 to a G4, the recording feature worked as advertised. I couldn't find any documentation mentioning this requirement either. I guess they figure anyone would want to buy this already has a G4 or G5.

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  65. Caution... by SethS · · Score: 1

    From personal experience, I can say this product is SWEET! However! It it very susceptible to static shocks. (Standing up from my chair to move the antenna generated enough static charge to cause the RadioShark to stop receiving. A few times of this actually caused the RadioShark to stop working all together and it had to be sent back.)

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    If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention!
  66. Nice - but with problems by diggory · · Score: 2, Informative
    I got one for christmas - and love it. But it does have a few drawbacks:
    • Reception can be very poor unless you use the (included) USB extender, and I find, that for some reason, it gets best reception when the USB cable is hanging vertically. (attaching headphones to the socket seems to make little or no difference.)
    • No AppleScript support. I've had to hack up some nasty GUI scripts that require both the name and the frequency of the station hard-coded. (yuk)
    • No RDS (minor niggle)
  67. I don't know about that. by JudgeFurious · · Score: 1

    It could be that this thing is right on time. It's even possible that it's a little early.

    I think that the current state of radio cannot stand and remain profitable forever. It's crap from one end of the dial to the other and that seems to be the general consensus with everyone I speak to. People like the Clear Channel folks have pretty much destroyed everything that made radio stations worth listening to and turned them into boring generic copies of one another. This is in the process of leading to what I think will be a satellite radio explosion in the near future because XM simply kicks the crap out of listening to FM radio.

    Eventually they're going to reach critical mass and recievers aren't going to just be options in cars. They're going to be standard equipment and all the owner will need to do is activate the service. Most won't I'm sure but enough will to start to erode the ad revenues. When satellite radio gets big enough then broadcast radio will have to change. I think eventually we'll see a brief period where FM starts to get interesting again.

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  68. Yes I have by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    The refutation is clear. Not every can do that even though it is physically possible. You ignore mental barriers, and thus reality itself.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  69. The why doesn't eveyone install cards? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Many, many people then would seem to be installing cards - but they are not. What are all those computers doing at Best Buy? You ignore the point that just because something is physically possible, does not mean people are CAPBLE of doing it. There is a mental component some people cannot get beyond.

    If it's so easy, then why is it such a limited skill? Reality says you are missing something, only in your mind is it obviosuly as easy as you think.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  70. Five minutes until you go to install the driver... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Or the MB decides your IRQ's are not happy, or you find you actually don't have a spare slot, or you forget to ground and POOF goes the grpahics card.

    I cannot count the number of times I have seen system failures after people installed cards. It might be five minutes, maybe if you didn't have to install any drivers and they worked just perfectly. But you know what? Welcome to Windows where all you are sure of is uncertanty!

    Not to mention taht PCI card is now locked in your aging computer with no portability. Oh, and what about an antenaa? I guess you have to hook one up as well or the FM reception is going to be hell.

    There are a million things you fail to consider, and millions more that will simply not PC cards as much as you fantasize about them being for the masses.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  71. Re:Radioshack? Why would I buy anything from them? by NerdHead · · Score: 0

    I always called them Radio Shaft. I never called them Radio Shark before.

    Cool.

  72. Re:Nice, but... (tech info + tips) by I'll+buy+a+vowel · · Score: 1
    [brace yourself - might learn something]

    It's not your house - it's all the stuff IN your house. Worst offenders are generic PCs; specifically their case design (RFI/EMI-wise) is absolutely clueless (e.g., see http://www.ac6v.com/comprfi.htm/ for theory and fixes). Second place is firmly held by very, very crappy power supplies that let all the noise OUT of the PC on the power buss (ie. into your wiring). Sam's very useful Notes on the Troubleshooting and Repair of Small Switchmode Power Supplies) will get you started with theory and what [often] goes wrong (disclosure: I'm his sidekick). But:

    Pet Peeve: as soon as Name-Your-$14-PC-PS-Manufacturer gets their UL sticker (meaning they can start selling in the US!) the ENTIRE L-C filter from the input of the power supply PCB is shorted out with a series of jumpers. Right, the 120VAC wires go through the save-thy-ass fuse right into the rectifier! No caps, no chokes, nuthin'! (Ok, so what do you expect from a $15 460W PS?) This allows all the noise on the power lines to enter the PC (and fry it - use a surge protector!) *AND* it allows all the noise IN the PC to escape back out and corrupt others (ie. your receiver, TV, etc.) (See: http://cms-emc.web.cern.ch/cms-emc/pdffiles/PhDfil es/PS&filters.pdf section 3.2 Switching mode power supplies for a nice overview). Oh, yeah, and I'm *SURE* all of you have your grounded cable actually grounded, right?

    I got a 250W ATX knock-off case for $29 that came with a PS included. Turned the PC on, *ALL* AM stations vanished! Right... I opened it up and shure enough, a jumper from fuse to rectifier. All caps to ground were missing as well (from various points in the circuit). A few moments with a soldering iron (jelly-bean components, salvaged from dead *quality* PSes) and you can't tell the PC is on by listening to AM dial. Day and night difference!

    Don't feel bad if you never though of it, this guy obviously never did either... and he should have. http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4/psus/index.x? pg=1

    But, how do you later chop up the files? I'm glad you asked: I use a hacked version of text-only (yeah!) soundgrab. You can get my latest version from http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/filipg/soundgrab/

    My signal comes from a battery-powered (ie. avoids issues with 'corrupted power' ;) digital sony walkman, via a 20-odd foot coax cable to my PC. The further away your receiver is from the source of noice, the better off you are![*] Linux records it from a SoundBlaster Live! with rawrec to a wav file. I have a series of templates (.sg files) for different shows and just fudge them a bit then export to MP3. Piece of cake! I've done a bunch of Dave's shows that way (~700MB worth) for inclusion in a weakness of mine (don't worry, they get some equally-illegit music ;).

    Cheers

    [*] "The solution to pollution is dilution" - Evil chemistry maxim applied to the wonderul and friendly world of RFI ;-)