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Google Launches Mapping Service

Alex Reynolds writes "The beta version of Google Maps is now online, offering an alternative to Mapquest with what some might describe as a very much improved user interface, offering a cleaner layout, drop shadows, clickable waypoints and keyboard controls that allow you to move and zoom the map. For IE and Firefox/Mozilla at this point (no Safari or Opera support, as yet)."

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  1. It's all coming together now. by bigtallmofo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    GoogleMaps + AdSense + Google Local = Massive profits for Google and a fantastic customer experience.

    I knew the folks at Google were smart, but...

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    1. Re:It's all coming together now. by G-Licious! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe I just misinterpreted this, but people always sound so negative to me, when Google yet again reveals some neat feature that seems to give the competition a run for their money.

      You mentioned yourself:

      GoogleMaps + AdSense + Google Local = Massive profits for Google and a fantastic customer experience.

      It's all good, in my opinion. Google is, as far as I know, not a monopoly, not going to be a monopoly or even thinking about it. They're putting a product on the market, and fairly competing with it. If they can keep up the fantastic customer experience, I won't stop them personally.

      It actually isn't all that fantastic to me, atleast not until they have some detailed maps of the Netherlands. It sure looks promising, though. ;)

    2. Re:It's all coming together now. by HaveBlue34 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I, for one, look forward to paying a hefty fee for google's services once they are complete. This is simply too much good stuff to remain a free service. I can see the future where I can look up 'coffee shops,' map them out locally, visit their sites, submit a review, and create a map with waypoints to each one, while avoiding heavy traffic. I would be willing to pay quite a bit for this type of service. Sure would make moving to a new city easy, no trouble at all to find good local car repair shops, coffee, etc.
      Most of this functionality exists out on the web (epinions, maps with traffic, yellow pages, etc) but Google is going to be the one that ties it together seamlessly.
      Eventually you will be able to search by product(s) and find who has them in stock, for the cheapest price, near your house, in real time. Cool.

    3. Re:It's all coming together now. by sconeu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but does it send you on a tour of Europe just to go north a few hundred kilometers?

      If it doesn't, then I'm sticking with MSN Maps!

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  2. Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They seem to have the directions to take on Microsoft

    1. Re:Google will never stop... by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yea but they will never catch them if you use Microsoft Directions they will bring you to i90 North!!!! Well it seems they may have fixed it, but I remember when Microsoft bought out map-blast (my old favorite) I remember getting quite loss with their directions with them telling me to to take an even Interstate North (All even interstate goes East and West) and on the side roads they told me to go East when I needed to go west. And they for the longest time decided not to give Exit Numbers! But I just checked it out it seems that it was corrected.

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    2. Re:Google will never stop... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, Google will soon become a search engine legend, after topping the chart for a long time. They have the key to success, let's hope they can scale this service up so we can all feel that feeling of elevation, like the one I got from playing The Silent Cartographer in Halo for the first time. This is a true landmark in search engine technology. I feel so giddy with excitement that I'm losing my orientation! I need the contours of a hot woman to offer me some relief!

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    3. Re:Google will never stop... by luvirini · · Score: 5, Funny

      well, microsoft gives nice driving instructions for Europeans atleast: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/24/msn_drivin g_instructions/

    4. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Thats nothing. Try this on for size:
      I don't know how long it will be before someone at MSN notices that a whole lot of people are interested in this trip; this has appeared on many newsgroups already.
      1. http://mappoint.msn.com/DirectionsFind.aspx
      2. Plan a trip from Haugesund, Norway to Trondheim, Norway
      3. Laugh
      Shamelessly quoted from an ASR posting.
    5. Re:Google will never stop... by Monsieur+Canard · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hey, it's a beta. Have some decaf.

      If you read the help, it says that the ability to save location "is an important feature" and that they are working on it. So what you want may be coming too.

      Of course you could always use the "send feedback" link and request the option to do what you want.

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    6. Re:Google will never stop... by mistered · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I noticed the default was "quickest" and thought there might just be a really slow road that it avoided. But I was pleased to find it's just as funny if you choose "shortest."

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    7. Re:Google will never stop... by kv9 · · Score: 2, Informative

      yes you can. after you do a query the "Link to this page" link from the top-right automagically points to the location.

    8. Re:Google will never stop... by mgv · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thats nothing. Try this on for size:

      I don't know how long it will be before someone at MSN notices that a whole lot of people are interested in this trip; this has appeared on many newsgroups already.

      1. http://mappoint.msn.com/DirectionsFind.aspx
      2. Plan a trip from Haugesund, Norway to Trondheim, Norway
      3. Laugh

      Shamelessly quoted from an ASR posting.


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    9. Re:Google will never stop... by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All google needs for World (well... US anway) Dominance is to learn what side of the street the odd-numbered addresses are. Nothing like getting to your destination and finding strip malls on both sides of you and no clue which one the dinky little storefront is.

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    10. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's another good one Bennäs - Jakobstad. What makes it even funnier is that Bennäs is the closest train station to Jakobstad, that's one hell of a cab ride into town :)

  3. Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Goose+In+Orbit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What about the rest of the planet?

    1. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Sandmann · · Score: 3, Funny

      > What about the rest of the planet?

      What, BOTH of them?

    2. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by MaestroSartori · · Score: 4, Informative

      Those of us outside the US can sometimes get good map stuff from http://www.multimap.com

      Better than this US-only shit, even if it doesn't cover everywhere at least its slightly more ambitious in its scope...

    3. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's the first thing I thought. It showed a map of the USA, so I tried scrolling right, only to find that the USA really is the whole world. Imagine my surprise! I owe a lot of Americans apologies for daring to doubt them.

    4. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by imr · · Score: 2, Funny

      well, they will have to put some kind of extension for irak and the tiny island state in Europe, what's its name already?

    5. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by plsavaria · · Score: 2, Funny

      For once, Québec is included in the USA. What a nice mapping service!

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    6. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by DarkSarin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      don't forget about Israel.

      Sorry folks, though, I just DON'T have much sympathy on this point. Here's why: the US has a NUMBER of mapping services, and extensive maps available at this time. Although very us-centric, Google knows their audience, and will probably put maps for other parts of the world on localized versions of the site (eg, maps.google.co.uk or mapas.google.pt). That would make much more sense than trying to give a map for the entire world on a single page.

      Second, this is still only BETA. It is GOOD, but it is only BETA. Expect additional countries to surface as it approaches full utility.

      Finally, Google IS a US-based country. It wouldn't make much sense for them to start with Ethopia, now would it? Should they have included Canada or Mexico? Perhaps, but what they have is pretty impressive as it is. Give them TIME.

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    7. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by huge+colin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Better than this US-only shit..."

      <sarcasm>
      Yes, I'm sure the maps are US-only for awful, vindictive reasons, and not because of simple economics.
      </sarcasm>

      Grow up.

    8. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by jrumney · · Score: 4, Funny

      There be dragons!!!!

    9. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by hcob$ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Somehow, I think Google wants to start with maps of the US since it costs less to store just US data, and they now have shareholders(with shares going $200+ per pop) to answer to. I wouldn't be suprised if they expanded later on to include more of the world, but come on. It's just good business sense to test the waters with relatively cheap product that develop the super product that costs way too much to manufacuture and no one would use ALL the features.

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    10. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by HeghmoH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What the hell is wrong with you people? It's new, it's beta and it's made by an American company. It's not going to shine your shoes and make you coffee on the first day it's out there. It's an incredibly cool app, and I'm sure they'll expand its scope in the future.

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    11. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Epistax · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now now, you can clearly see Canada's road.

    12. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's all right. I'm used to maps not working too well in Lynx.

    13. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by hachete · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Finally, Google IS a US-based country.

      It'll be getting it's own flag and army next.

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    14. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by fatalb7 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Calm down.
      Can someone just say it's funny they warn you about not supporting some browsers but don't mention the rest of the world without you taking the gun of the shelf?
      It's funny you can scroll to the rest of the world and fint it empty too.
      Why should we do all the work for you???
      We? You worked on it?

      Looks like they represented the world exactly like in your own mind...

      Oh, there's map services in Europe too, btw. Google for it ;)

      P.S: Sorry for my english, I live in the blue area.
    15. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Second, this is still only BETA. It is GOOD, but it is only BETA. Expect additional countries to surface as it approaches full utility.

      Or, like many other Google services, expect the development of the service to halt as they announce the beta, forever staying in the same beta stage.

      Google News?
      Google Desktop Search?
      Google Local Search?
      Google Scholar?
      Google Personalized Search?
      Google Video?

      Not really complaining, many of those services are great, I just think I'm seeing where this service will be in the next year. Basically where it is now. Hopefully I'm wrong though, since I don't live in the USA. :-)

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    16. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget that US GIS data is generally freely copyable. If your country doesn't have similar services, blame your government for not making its GIS data available.
      -russ

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    17. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by novakyu · · Score: 2
      Google News?

      Hmm, at first I thought, "Wait a minute, that's not beta. It's on the front page." But no, I was wrong: the logo clearly says beta.

      But then, maybe Google is marking any 0.95 or even 0.99 versions as beta, until they are ready to release it into version 1 and really stop developing (er, bug-catching), until the Next Big Thing.

      IMHO, I find perpetual beta status better than premature "official" releases (*coughwindowsmecough*): at least they are being honest.

      And much of Google Beta stuff is usable as it is, isn't it? Where as some of the "official" releases is not (*coughwindowsmewindowssystemrecoverycough*).

    18. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by kst · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why on Earth was it necessary to design this thing to work with any particular browser(s)? It should have been easier to design it to conform to all the applicable web standards; operability with all conforming browsers then comes for free. If IE or Firefox uses some non-standard feature that's not supported by other browsers, you just don't use that feature.

      I'm tired of web sites telling me to "upgrade" my browser to MSIE or Netscape. They should upgrade their web sites to the World Wide Web.

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  4. And its only beta! by thewldisntenuff · · Score: 3, Informative

    I gave it a run.....Definitely better than mapquest....Map moves smoothly, instead of having to click and wait for a reload. Nicer interface....

    But how does it work?

    -thewldisntenuff

    1. Re:And its only beta! by Donatas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      they achieve this by using XMLHttpRequest to make requests to the server and get back results via JavaScript. That's why dragging works so great... they do requests to get IDs of new images to show an dthen they start opening them.

  5. New World Map by olafc · · Score: 5, Funny

    A preview of the world map after Bush his second term is over :)

    1. Re:New World Map by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2

      Are you sure? The US is still there.

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    2. Re:New World Map by edudspg · · Score: 4, Funny

      A preview of the world map after Bush his second term is over :)

      You have that backwards. After Bush's term scrolling east will work. ;-)

  6. Incredible by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This may be the most impressive web application I have ever seen. It performs like a local application, incredibly fast and smooth, but it's all coming over the internet and displaying in my web browser. I can browse around the country like I was playing with a photograph! The lack of Safari support is too bad, but they say it's coming soon.

    No, I have nothing constructive to add, just... wow!

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  7. Re:US Only at the moment. by sosume · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dude, I was thinking, like, wow, that's one big ocean!!! I kept scrolling and scrolling in hope to find Europe, must be what Columbus felt like when sailing to America... ;) Are you sure Europe isn't somewhere on that map??

  8. You can drag the map ! by pepax · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can actually drag the map with your mouse to move the part that's being displayed. Way cool!

    1. Re:You can drag the map ! by mindriot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, it is a very cool interface. Also, it loads incredibly fast, and I think it's probably by far the clearest map rendering I've seen anywhere. Extremely good visual quality.

      For other choices, I still love Map24. They've got Europe and North America, and the whole thing in a neat Java applet that is also very usable. But Google's map is gonna be tough competition for them...

      Also, you gotta love the typically Google way of doing your address or directions queries... just say "Kansas City to Los Angeles" etc. and it works.

      But of course it's still Beta. A simple test for "Wilmington, DE to Jersey City, NJ" in my case renders a misplaced blue line that I can't quite make sense of. But if that's the only problem...

    2. Re:You can drag the map ! by mithras+the+prophet · · Score: 4, Informative

      Noticed that you can also use arrow keys to nudge the map, or page up/down/home/end to smoothly scroll a half-screenful. Very very nice.

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    3. Re:You can drag the map ! by glesga_kiss · · Score: 4, Informative
      You can actually drag the map with your mouse to move the part that's being displayed.

      Yawn. You've obviously not seen map24 then? Java based applet for online vector maps. Pisses all over Mapquest and Googles latest. They won the 2004 Webby for Technological Achievement. Very impressive site. My favourite feature is the rocket button, a zoom-out feature to give you perspective of what you are zoomed-in on. Plus, any map that starts with a continental view and animates into the search address gets my vote. Like the start of the Burb's, but to your own house...

      Plus, is Google maps USA only? Not even Canada? Sheesh!

    4. Re:You can drag the map ! by bigbadwlf · · Score: 3, Informative

      Plus, is Google maps USA only? Not even Canada?

      I'm in Canada and I just zoomed right in on my street.

    5. Re:You can drag the map ! by Vintermann · · Score: 4, Funny

      Either google maps is north america only, or the atlantic ocean is a lot bigger than I thought.

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    6. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Slashdot reply template #24
      How to reply to a story about a new tool:

      "Yawn. You've obviously not seen [insert tool name here that no-one has ever heard of]."

    7. Re:You can drag the map ! by sapped · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...and the whole thing in a neat Java applet...

      Which proceeded to crash my Firefox browser. Thanks.

    8. Re:You can drag the map ! by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Funny
      Google just got rid of all irrelevant information.
      <preemptive humor impaired apology/>
      Just kidding Geesh lighten up people.
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    9. Re:You can drag the map ! by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pisses all over Mapquest and Googles latest.

      And crashes Firefox for me (v1.0, Win XP Pro).

      Plus, is Google maps USA only? Not even Canada? Sheesh!

      Fercrissake, it's *beta*! Give them time!

    10. Re:You can drag the map ! by jthayden · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's trying to warn you not to go to New Jersey.

    11. Re:You can drag the map ! by geordie_loz · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're under linux and the javavm binary can't be found by the java plugin then Java does present rather a problem.. you need to edit your binary search paths ($PATH) and make sure javavm can be hand then all should be well.. try running firefox from a console and you can get a little information as to why the browser dies..

    12. Re:You can drag the map ! by Deluge · · Score: 3, Informative

      Canada's there, once you zoom in - it just lacks the zoomed out detail of the US. (Well, at least the more populated parts of Canada, I didn't try the accuracy of the Yellowknife city map).

    13. Re:You can drag the map ! by Media+Tracker · · Score: 2, Funny

      map.search.ch also has a very sleek, highly usable interface, built using only JavaScript. You can drag the map, zooming is animated, and you get a mix of satellite imagery and vector graphics... Very cool.

      Only covers Switzerland, unfortunately.

    14. Re:You can drag the map ! by shokk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I like Yahoo Maps because it lets you save locations for use later, like if you make the same trip again a year later. I don't see this in Mapquest, MSN/Mapblast, or Google Maps.

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    15. Re:You can drag the map ! by zangdesign · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you need to edit your binary search paths ($PATH) and make sure javavm

      And we should have to do this ... why? That sort of thing should already have been handled by the OS.

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    16. Re:You can drag the map ! by XMyth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yea. Geordie's post would've been put to much better use if he had complained about the problem rather than offering a solution. Or better yet, he could've complained about existing solutions, like you did.

    17. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're under linux and the javavm binary can't be found by the java plugin then Java does present rather a problem.. you need to edit your binary search paths ($PATH) and make sure javavm can be hand then all should be well.. try running firefox from a console and you can get a little information as to why the browser dies..

      2005 is definitely the year of Linux on the desktop!

  9. Nice... by sH4RD · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As said before, yes, it only seems to work in IE/Firefox (which is a shame). But, it is still easily the best map experience I have ever had. Being able to just type parts of an address into a bar instead of seperate boxes is disorganized, but quick and easy. And the balloon popup for current location is useful. The vector graphics are great, and scale to monitor resolution. I just wish NAVTEQ would add topographic information (for that matter, why does NAVTEQ do everyone's maps?). The zoom scale is much better than others, since it is live and smooth scaling. However, overall, the system doesn't seem like it would transfer to print well. I suppose the only way to find out is to try it.

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    1. Re:Nice... by lazytiger · · Score: 5, Informative
      (for that matter, why does NAVTEQ do everyone's maps?)


      Because Navteq has invested millions and millions of dollars into GIS street data. Why reinvent the wheel when you can just license it? There are only two big, big sources of street data out there - Navteq and TeleAtlas. Virtually every online mapping service under the sun uses one or both of those sources. So does onboard GPS software. Increasingly, so do printed maps. Rand McNally's new line of local and regional maps (the ones with pastel covers) are based on Navteq data. They even boast about it. Look closely at other brands of printed maps and atlases and you'll notice often they don't even make the maps at all - you're likely to see MapQuest copyrights all over the place if you look closely. And MapQuest of course in turn uses Navteq and/or TeleAtlas data.

      However, Navteq doesn't necessarily "do" everyone's maps. They provide the data and then the company comes up with a specification for linework, fills, etc. and adds or subtracts Points of Interest, boundaries, etc. A lot more goes into making a map than just the raw data. Let someone else do that.

      The mapping industry has become one big consolidated relicensing operation. If good data already exists, it's foolish not to just use it. Believe me, there would be a hell of a lot more errors if everyone was creating their own data rather than using one or two reasonably good sources.
  10. spectacular UI... and up-to-date by path_man · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Very nice interface, and certainly less cluttered than maps.yahoo.com or mapquest.

    But best of all -- my new subdivision is on the map whereas it's absent on all the other free map services that the pizza guy, furniture stores, and other delivery folks keep trying to use because they've never heard of my street before.

    Google's "DO NO EVIL" company value really shows in this excellent service.

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    1. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by birder · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unfortunately, Google is using a 3+ year old map of my sub division which has had roads moved, added and renamed. http://www.ca.map24.com/ is up to date for me.

      Still, it's an amazing interface and I hope they get accurate info soon.

  11. and its allmost xhtml compliant by Val314 · · Score: 2, Informative

    just 1 (small) error
    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://ma ps.goog le.com/

    and it has a doctype ;)

  12. Dropshadows?! by kuzb · · Score: 5, Funny
    [..]offering a cleaner layout, drop shadows, clickable waypoints and keyboard controls that allow you to move and zoom the map.

    Jesus! They have drop shadows! Sign me up#@!

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  13. Maps24.com... by Glove+d'OJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This looks very much like maps24.com... their application was java-based, and this appears to be browser-based / scripted.

    Maps24.com won a Webby in 2004.

    The click and drag for map movement rocks.

  14. Konqueror isn't supported yet by advocate_one · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your browser is not supported by Google Maps just yet. We currently support the following browsers:

    IE 5.5+ (download: Windows)
    Firefox 0.8+ (download: Windows Mac Linux)
    Netscape 7.1+ (download: Windows Mac Linux)
    Mozilla 1.4+ (download: Windows Mac Linux)

    We are working on supporting Safari. Regardless of your browser type, you must have JavaScript enabled to use Google Maps.

    We recommend you download one of the browsers above, or you can try to load Google Maps in your current browser.

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    1. Re:Konqueror isn't supported yet by jisatsusha · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty sure once Safari is supported, Konqueror will be too, don't they use the same rendering engine?

    2. Re:Konqueror isn't supported yet by Carewolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It seems to use XSL, which neither Safari nor Konqueror supports.

  15. Re:They forgot Poland ! by Gallowsgod · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean you guys belived you would get maps just because you embraced capitalism?

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  16. Or map24 by madaxe42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or, for that matter, map24. Think they've got the most impressive interface i've seen yet.

    1. Re:Or map24 by igrp · · Score: 2, Informative
      Google and Map24 have teamed up in the past to provide in-line city map results for their European search engines (they briefly mention it on the Map24 site).

      So, it appears they're already cooperating. I guess it wouldn't be a big surprise if they're using Map24's data for their own mapping service. If that's true, it shouldn't be all that hard to add a Google Maps Europe in the future.

  17. Features I would like. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shorest Distance.
    Avoid Highways
    Use Highways
    Fastest Time
    Least number of turns (most direct route).
    Avoid Cities
    As well the ability to change your route on the map. Say you know that you cant take this road because of traffic today so you need an alternate route.

    I think those would be useful features for any map program. At best I have only seen some of them parttilly implemented.

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    1. Re:Features I would like. by igny · · Score: 2, Funny

      Least number of turns (most direct route).

      But do they have Left turns only?

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  18. Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends) by Spoing · · Score: 5, Informative
    'Google kicks all types of ass;

    maps.google.com

    Here's the kicker;

    * They used DHTML and Javascript

    * They did _not_ use Flash

    Go take a look and consider that...

    * No need to use the on-screen arrows to move around

    * Left click and hold can be used to drag the map

    * The arrow keys and other keys on your keyboard also work (PgUp, PgDn, +, -, ...)

    While the useful part of the map is limited to the 50 US States, Puerto Rico, and the populated areas of Canada, it does not have local boarders (drag from Alaska or Hawaii to Florida or the Canadian wilderness if you want). Zoom all the way in before you think they left something out. It looks to be complete.

    * The vector-generated maps are very readable when printed

    * It uses Google's Local search; if you haven't tried that, give it a whirl (example: Choose a location on the main page, click Local when the location appears, and punch in "pizza" or "atms". Not perfect; "beer" and "pub" don't work so well, though oddly "brew" returns some good results. :( )'

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  19. The world according to Google by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. only one continent
    2. Canada is empty (OK, not too far off)
    3. The center of the world is Coffeyville, Kansas
    4. Nice choice of map - see the distortion at the top. That's one thing you should be able to avoid online.

    Good thing it's a beta, then...

    1. Re:The world according to Google by acb · · Score: 3, Funny

      I wonder whether anyone has told the Coffeyville, KS chamber of commerce; they could start printing Center of the World postcards and T-shirts, and rename the local diner the Center of the World Diner, and hopefully rake in the tourist bucks.

  20. Missing save feature by jvj24601 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I never use Mapquest. I use maps.yahoo.com, and when I login with my yahoo id (started using it for mail, now I just use it for everything but mail because gmail rocks), I am able to name and save specific locations. So now I have all of my son's soccer and basketball game locations available for instant lookup.

    When Google Maps gets this feature and allows me to save locations linked to my gmail account, I'll switch over. The new interface in Google Maps is cool, but Yahoo maps (and Mapquest, I suspect) is good enough - especially for simply printout out map and driving directions.

  21. Re:US Only at the moment. by mst · · Score: 2, Funny

    It does? I clicked "maps" and entered "Sweden" into the search box and was informed (by a set of red baloons) that I live somewhere between Tulsa and Kansas City, not in northern Europe as I've always believed.

    Come to think of it, this could explain the unusually warm winters we've had in Sweden lately.

  22. What would really be killer.... by PornMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is if this worked on my Treo 300.

    The maps look so much cleaner than others I've seen, and might actually be somewhat understandable on the small screen. I really think it would be amazing if combined with Google Local, I could put in an address in New York, and "pizza" and have a map with the nearest pizza joint.

  23. Woo hoo! Drop shadows! by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I'll NEVER get lost again! It's too bad the inventor of the drop shadow never filed a patent...

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  24. This is awesome. by DamienNightbane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love the fact that the map loads nearly as fast as I can scroll. It's size is really nice too. Even better, the route marker it puts on the map when it gives directions isn't in the way, like it is on Mapquest.

    Add to that the wonderful UI, and I think that Google has a real winner here.

    By the way, all of you complaining that the map is USA only should note that this is only a beta. Chances are that when the full version is released, it will cover as much, or more, of the world than Mapquest.

  25. Other Differences From Mapquest... by geoffrobinson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1) They won't take you the wrong way down one-way streets.

    2) They will get you to your destination instead of 95% of the way there.

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  26. Re:Incredible - if only it used open standards by HeghmoH · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Um, ok.... those two services you linked to? They suck compared to this. They're a big reload fest, just like all other traditional web apps. Click, wait for a new picture to load, repeat endlessly. It's not interactive, it's just a normal web page with links that do interesting things.

    Google's service does live zooms, live scrolling, and never leaves me waiting. If it requires breaking standards to accomplish that, then so be it. Nobody's forcing you to use it.

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  27. Must be a bug by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 2, Funny

    I did a search for Apple Computer Inc Cupertino CA and I got an Infinite Loop ...

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  28. Centre of the map by PhilHibbs · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, who lives closest to the intersection of 2200 Rd and 4300 Rd, Coffeyville, Kansas? Just keep clicking the "+" button, and that's where the exact centre of Google's map of the US is. Just north of Coffeyville Country Club.

  29. Mappy has it by mbaciarello · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mappy, an originally French service, has very good maps with public transportation and driving directions support. Maps are in flash, so they look smoother than usual.

    Their database of local resources is pretty much empty, though, at least for Italy.

    It's available in .fr, .co.uk, .it, .es and .nl flavors.

  30. What's the distance? by nurbles · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google's maps seem to be missing at least one fundamental map feature: a scale of distance. They have a nifty slider and a not-so-nifty scrolling feature (I cannot find any way to select my own center point (never mind, just discovered I can clikc'n'drag)). But they are lacking anything that would allow me to estimate the distance between two points on the map. At last a standard scale can be used for guessing. A TRULY fancy feature would be an option to click on start, and have the display dynamically highlight the route and show the distance... If anyone can do it, the Googlites can, right? (smile)

  31. I just mapped my route to work... by Bohnanza · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ..and it failed to notice the highway connection. It sends me through back roads by the geographically most direct route, then tells me that the 45-minute drive (I've done it) will take 19 minutes. It looks nice, but it needs some work. It seems they are ignoring/miscalculating travel time. Mapquest, on the other hand, gives me the route I've found to be fastest.

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  32. [tt]:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Porn+Whitelist · · Score: 2, Funny
    thant develop the super product that costs way too much to manufacuture and no one would use ALL the features.
    Well, you just flushed your job interview at Redmond.
  33. How about my car keys? by LemonFire · · Score: 2, Funny

    With Googles ability to find just about anything I thought that I was in luck, however a search for my car keys at my residential address came up with nothing.
    Bummer.

  34. Lat/long please... by javatips · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The user interface is really nice and cool while being simple.

    However, like most other online mapping application, they don't provide geographic coordinates which could be used in a GPS device.

    Right now, I'm using using Multimap most of the time, even if their maps are a bit outdated, because they provide geographic coordinates.

    If they google where to provide geographics coordinate, at least for driving direction, with a way to download them in a text or xml file, it will beat the compitition without any doubt.

  35. Google might have used USPS data for the US by Gaurang · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As I understand, all these services like Yahoo Maps, Mapquest, Mappoint, and Google Maps might be using United States Postal Service (USPS) (or some other such govt org) data on street level maps and coordinates. (This is only my understanding, it MIGHT BE COMPLETELY WRONG).

    And the problem is that, such data is not easily available for other countries. Hence, we can not expect Google to go and map out all the countries in the world when they start their beta service.

    Even if such data exists for other countries compiled by their respective organizations, it will possibly take more effort and time to integerate with "n" number of organizations' data in various formats. Just like Yahoo Maps and Mapquest provide very less coverage of other countries.

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    1. Re:Google might have used USPS data for the US by 2short · · Score: 2, Informative

      I deal with map data a lot, and your understanding is at least mostly wrong. USPS data blows chunks for streets; If mail dosen't get delivered there (all highways) they have no reason to care. And they never have a reason to care exactly where the street is, the mail carrier just has to be able to drive along it. The Census has better data, called TIGER, which is half decent, but they only really worry about it being up to date every ten years. For really good, up-to-date data like these services will all need, you're going to be paying big $ to one of a few companies that produce it (by examining aerial photos and even driving around to check).

      The part of your understanding that is right is that if you pay, you can get pretty good data for all the roads in the US in one big consistent format and quality pile. Some other countries have good data, but you probably need to work to connect it across borders. For size of market handled by one data set, the US is king, and any US based company in their right mind would start there. Note that all of this is constantly changing, and in particular the EU may soon pass the US on the market size vs. data hassle equation.

  36. very impressive! by Complicity · · Score: 5, Funny
    I searched for prostitutes near my address, and it came back with the following:
    • Eastern Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church In Canada
    • St Mary's Coptic Orthodox Church
    • Customers For Life Inc
    • Brantford Public Library
    • Children's Aid Society of Haldimand-Norfolk
    • Oxford Self-Help Network
    Google teaches us so many things!
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  37. Rubbish! by eric.t.f.bat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I went looking for some cities I know of in the US, and the coverage is spotty, to say the least. New York is there, of course, but I went south to New Jersey and Delaware, and both Gotham and Metropolis are missing. Duh! Iowa and Minnesota exist, but Central City and Keystone are missing. Boston and Seattle are there, but no sign of Hub City, Gateway City, Star City -- need I go on? Obviously Coast City isn't there, but there's no marker for where it WAS.

    Pretty shakey all round. Not impressed.

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    1. Re:Rubbish! by Cheeze · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did you search for Vice City or San Andreas?

      Those cities are gangland.

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  38. [tt]:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Last I looked, Montreal and Toronto, and even small parts of Vancouver, are still in Canada.

    And there's a little bug - if you search for a city, its name appears on the right. Now, zoom out, and zoom in on another city. The city name doesn't change.

    I'm looking at Montreal (street level), and i says I'm still looking at Ottawa.

    This will be GREAT for practical jokes - "Need directions? Here's the map of downtown New York (hands over map of Detroit that says "New York" on it).

    Now what about those of us who have to hold a map upside-down over our head to make sense of the orientation? Frigging monitors are HEAVY.

  39. Impressive by TheVidiot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The interface here, and that of Gmail, is truly impressive. It's astounding what Google has accomplished here in web applications, simply blowing away those apps that have had many, many years of dedicated development in the area.

    If you have experience creating map sites with ArcIMS or any of the major GIS software, you know that this interface and speed are unmatched.

    To simply leap over the competition like this is something that's been missing in software for a long time...

  40. What are google planning???! by madaxe42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    We could not calculate driving directions between miami and anchorage. We currently only support road-based driving directions.

    Coming soon - off road based driving directions!

    Turn left out of drive.
    Go through neighbours yard.
    Swerve to avoid barn
    Swerve to avoid cow
    Attatch floats to car, cross pond
    Drive across desert, hope for reliable engine
    Drive through mountains, attatch boring attatchment(yawn)
    Reach crevasse
    Plummet
    Go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200

  41. Ok that's funny enough to deserve being linked up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
  42. Area 51 - try it by Ummite · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Nevada test site" You actually get roads. They could have been funier by putting some UFO Photo instead of gray area!

  43. The difficulty in making 2D maps of a 3D world by Analogue+Kid · · Score: 3, Informative
    4. Nice choice of map - see the distortion at the top. That's one thing you should be able to avoid online.

    The thing about making a flat map of a spherical world is that there will always be distortion. Either the relative sizes of landmasses, the angles between them or BOTH will be distorted. The particular projection used to create the map will determine how much of what kind of distortion the map has. Whether if a map is "online" or not has nothing to do with it as long as it is still a two dimensional representation of a 3 dimensional object.

    The most popular projection is called the Mercator Projection. This projection will heavily distort the relative sizes of landmasses, making whatever is in the corners of the map appear to be much larger than what is in the center. For example, depending on where the map is centered, Greenland could appear to be larger than the entire South American continent. The good side of the Mercator Projection is that it preserves the relative angles of locations. In other words, if 3 places all fall on the same straight line (around the world of course), then all three will also be in a straight line on a Mercator Projection map. For this reason, the Mercator Projection is by far the most useful for sailors and Navigators.

    Other projections such as the Lambert Azimuthal Projection provide more exact relative sizes of countries and continents, while horribly distorting the shapes of places near the edge. There is also an Azimuthal Equidistant projection which neither maintains correct relative sizes, nor angles, but has the advantage that all distances measured from the center of the map will be correct.

    As you can see, mapping online or off is all about trade offs. You can have correct shapes or angles or distances, but you any map will distort at least two of the three.

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  44. Re:It's all coming together now. Keyhole! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think it'll be more impressive than that. If you've tried the Keyhole satellite software (parent company bought by Google), it becomes obvious that the eventual product will incorporate actual satellite imagery down to the block level.

    If you haven't tried(played)with the keyhole software, I highly recommend the free trial. Same address location, zoom in and scroll capabilities as Google maps plus angle effects, but with real satellite photos.

    http://www.keyhole.com/

  45. yes it uses NAVTEQ and TeleAtlas by Gaurang · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, you are right. I just found out that they use Navteq and TeleAtlas map data, and NavTeq has info on 40 countries. So probably I would say "its just a matter of time".

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  46. Just wait for version 2.0 by jalefkowit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two words:

    lens flares!

  47. longitude and lattitude by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like that
    unlike mapquest (which encodes location in a cryptic
    way) you can link in google maps, directly to
    longitude and lattitude: example
    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.376373% 2C-71.116 184

  48. Yep, through the magic of javascript and DOM by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The image is made out of an array of tiles, each a GIF about 3.6K in size. They have URLs like this: http://mt.google.com/mt?v=.3&x=5&y=-4&zoom=8 As you pan to the right, each tile's src attribute gets the url of the tile to its right, which is of course already in browser cache. The rightmost column of five tiles is then fetched from the server. The very clever thing is how they make panning continuous. I have to look at their javascript to see how they accomplish it, it's quite an illusion. In any case, the efficiency of this approach accounts for the generous size of the map. and its responsiveness, which would be hard to achieve using conventional mapserver techniques.

    I've worked with developing web map services before. This approach complicates some things you might want to do, but is probably how you'd do it if you wanted a very fast, ultra-scalable service I wouldn't be surprised if Google, which in many ways is in the information storage business, has got all these tiles pre-rendered somewhere. Normally, you'd render the gif for the entire map in a temporary directory somewhere. Natrually this approach is more processor and bandwidth sensitive, but saves on storage. Of course, it allows you to do other kinds of GISy things that probably would be hard to do with Google's approach, but those kinds of things are relatively rare in this kind of application.

    I'd like to figure out how to map from geographic coordinate systems to the bizarre system they're using. Then I could use the mapping service for my own uses.

    Altogether, it's an interesting first effort. A rectangle drag zoom function would be welcome.

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  49. They forgot the scale. by Peldor · · Score: 3, Informative

    None of these maps have a scale on them. It seems like a poor choice to omit that.

  50. My way or the highway. by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    MapQuest's raw data has the direction of one-way streets marked. Google's presentation layer is much better, but MapQuest's data is therefore much more useful in navigating. If it's going only in the direction against you, it's not a street - it's a very dangerous wall. Maybe when it's out of beta. But I haven't seen Google make that big a change; their betas are nearly done.

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  51. Transit maping by SuperQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What I would like is a better transit map searching system.. I'm planing a trip to SFO, and having a nice on-the-fly map drawn of different bus/train routes would be handy.

    1. Re:Transit maping by Politburo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Would be nice to hit in two addresses in a transit laden area and get the best train/bus/other to take. NJ Transit actually does this.. you can go on their site and punch in addresses and get the nearest train/bus stops and the itinerary. However, it uses a drop box to select City,State. If yours isn't listed, you have to do a bit of research on your own. Also, you need a street address.. you can't just say "Take me from New Brunswick to Parsippany". The NJ Transit site also includes NYC Subways and PATH in planning trips. I couldn't get it to use NYC Buses.

      Doesn't really help you for your SF trip, though.

  52. The maps are really old. by Demodian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The map information that Google is using is at least 6 to 8 years old in some areas. They could have at least launched a service that had fresh data.

  53. Re:What's wrong... by HeghmoH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a non-US reader, and as you can see, I don't care. For me it's a cool technology showcase, not something I'm going to start using tomorrow. I believe that was the point of the story.

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  54. When is someone going to integrate mass transit? by Kevin+Stevens · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The biggest missing feature of all the mapping services I have seen is the lack of integrating mass transit.

    I live in NYC, and whenever I am going somewhere, I usually pull out mapquest to find the address (cross streets) and then sit there with a subway/bus map to try and figure out how to get there. Aside from the time problem (the time intervals that flights trains and busses leave is not as flexible as a car), this should be relatively easy to implement as the search space is so much smaller, and should be easy to acquire information about (as opposed to every backroad across the US). Just overlaying subway and bus stops onto the street maps would be a huge improvement.

    There are many profitable ways to utilize this:
    I type in to WA. I get all the options- from trains, busses, airplanes. This is targeted marketing nirvana, as unlike people who are searching for TV's just to see the latest stuff, very few people ask for driving directions "just to see how they would get there."
    Just targetting airlines and railroads, etc. might be too small of a market... So how about showing ads from places along the route? Driving from NY to DC? See the diners along the way. Taking the train? Stop at the pizza hut in Penn. There is alot of revenue to be made there.

    It could be argued that this is a small market. However, considering that there are 10M people in NYC alone, most of which whom rely on mass transit, I would have to disagree.

  55. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by 10Brett-T · · Score: 2, Informative
    I usually pull out mapquest to find the address (cross streets) and then sit there with a subway/bus map to try and figure out how to get there

    Some cities have figured out a solution...
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  56. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Insightful


    I would LOVE to see mass transit options integrated into these mapping services, but I'm not holding my breath. The obstacle as I see it is finding a way to keep route information from all the various mass transit services accurate.

    Driving directions are comparatively easy. Roads will either be there, or won't, and they change maybe once, twice a year at most? But train or bus routes can be different every day, or even at different times of the same day! Users would need to specify not only where they are going, but also when.

  57. Who is Peggy Marfori? by Drakonian · · Score: 3, Funny
    My pedantry requires that I mentioned that "wherefore art thou" Shakespeare-style actually means Why are you, not Where.

    But assuming you actually meant where, what are you looking for? A long lost girlfriend, Timothy? Are you looking for a map to her new place? What about the restraining order?

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  58. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Please try http://maps.nycboe.net/ there is an option for subways. There is data for bus routes but it is disabled for now.

    Abraham
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    NYC DEPT OF EDUCATION

  59. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by phliar · · Score: 2, Informative
    I live in NYC, and whenever I am going somewhere, I usually pull out mapquest to find the address (cross streets) and then sit there with a subway/bus map to try and figure out how to get there.
    I live in San Francisco, and the TransitInfo Trip Planner plans trips, including connections between different transit systems. Here's an example trip. TransitInfo was started by a couple of UC Berkeley students, who ran it on another student's server. Today it's funded by an agency called MTC, a consortium of local (county) governments.

    Perhaps people should lobby their local governments to collaborate with MTC. All it takes is a little leg work to coordinate your transit agencies -- they probably publish schedules and maps on the web already, and at the most it'll be some format changes and/or conversions. I'm sure MTC will share their webapp.

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