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Mac OS X 10.3.8 Out, Security Update Released

Richard_at_work writes "Get it while its hot, or -- if you are less brave -- wait and see if there are any issues. From the download page, the two top points of this update are 'improved OpenGL technology and updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers' and 'improved file sharing and directory services for mixed Mac and PC networks'. More information."

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  1. No need to fear. by trudyscousin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Downloaded via Software Update and running great on my dual G5 box. Works great.

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    1. Re:No need to fear. by Seoulstriker · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm actually quite surprised by its performance in X.3. It performs just like it did when I first got the machine in '99 running OS9. The eye-candy is all there, and simple tasks run really well. It does suffer quite a bit though when trying to use hardware acceleration for anything. The ATi Rage 128 just doesn't cut it for OS X. It never did.

      Expose exposing the desktop with two windows open gets probably 1-2 frames per second. When I press F11, I see 1 or 2 frames before the windows disappear. :-( Still, the machine does everything I want it to satisfactorily with 768mb of ram. I'm really considering getting a mini or a laptop and ditching this dinosaur. If I hadn't loved my mac so much, I would have just trashed it and kept using my WinXP box. The beauty of OSX keeps me coming back for more.

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  2. Uh oh by MrAndrews · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't know if it's just me, but my wife's dual-USB iBook stopped booting after we installed this one. It just spins the loader on startup and never gets to the login screen. Yeep!

    Works fine on my Al pBook, tho.

    1. Re:Uh oh by MrAndrews · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I should clarify: the drive was disconnected during the update, but now the system still won't boot while it's plugged in. If you disconnect it, boot, and then mount it afterward, it works fine. Anyone else having this problem?

    2. Re:Uh oh by MrAndrews · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Disk Utility found nothing wrong, but here's a strange one: I used a different FW cable and the system boots fine. But I've been using that cable for the past year or so with no troubles up till now. Maybe it's just a fluke, but wow. That was half a day or billable time wasted :)

  3. Although point releases... by Goalie_Ca · · Score: 3, Funny

    Although point releases are small and often have stuff i'll never use, i still get excited. Could it be i'm a mac zealot? maybe....

    Now time to install new opengl drivers so i can play gltron in class on my ibook with .05% speed increase. Much more fun that fourier transforms.

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    1. Re:Although point releases... by waynelorentz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Addresses an issue in which a PowerBook G4 computer would, on rare occasion, wake from sleep with a black screen and not respond to any keyboard, mouse, or trackpad input.

      I'm glad they fixed this one. I've been burned by this more than a few times. Once I lost an entire Pages document because I closed my Powerbook when I went to make a sandwich.

  4. Early adopter and cautious observer by wazzzup · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm an early adopter because I initiate the download and install as soon as it came up in Software Update.

    I'm a cautious observer because by the time I'm done dowloading this 28MB behemoth on my dialup connection it will have been well tested.

  5. Snappier, for sure! by patrick42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is it just me, or does everything feel a bit snappier now! Amazing! Best update ever!

    1. Re:Snappier, for sure! by 42 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I find that keeping icons to a minimum on my desktop makes my computer feel snappier, and I can prove it... with science!

    2. Re:Snappier, for sure! by hunterx11 · · Score: 2, Informative
      I hate to be the one to break the bad news. Perhaps you should sit down, sir. There's no easy way to say this, so I'll just say it. YHBT. YHL. HAND.

      It's not that Apple hasn't made speed improvements in the past; I just enjoy irony is all.

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    3. Re:Snappier, for sure! by ChuckleBug · · Score: 4, Funny

      (Why do people have to be told?)

      I didn't. After the upgrade, I noticed I get jokes much more quickly! My comebacks are snappier, too!

  6. Earlier Adopter by FoolTDW · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Had some bluetooth problems (mouse and keyboard) on first reboot, but another reboot fixed that. Everything else seems fine. iBook G4

  7. This may fix an annoying problem... by vocaro · · Score: 4, Informative

    Upgraded successfully on my G4 PowerBook. No problems so far.

    Of particular interest to me is this item in the list of enhancements:

    Addresses an issue in which a PowerBook G4 computer would, on rare occasion, wake from sleep with a black screen and not respond to any keyboard, mouse, or trackpad input.

    I've been experiencing this problem on and off ever since I switched to the Mac last April, and it bugs the heck out of me. I'll unplug my laptop from my Cinema Display, take it home, flip open the lid, and nothing happens. The computer powers on -- I can hear the fan and hard drive spinning -- and the screen is lit, but it's all black. It ignores keyboard and mouse input, and I'm forced to do a hard reboot, losing any unsaved data. (It wasn't happening all the time, but at least every three weeks or so.)

    I talked to an Apple "Genius" at an Apple Store about this wake-from-sleep problem, and he said I shouldn't let the PowerBook go to sleep. Instead, I should shut down the computer completely before unplugging it, then power it back up when I got home. Ah, what genius! Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I move my arm like this." Doctor: "Then don't move your arm like that." Seriously, the sleep feature is vital for most laptop users, and I can't believe the solution is not to use it.

    Eventually, I discovered that if I click the Apple menu and select Sleep to do a manual sleep (as opposed to just unplugging the laptop from its display), then the frequency of the problem goes down, but it still happens. Hopefully this update will squash the bug once and for all.

    1. Re:This may fix an annoying problem... by 103to8 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I similarly hope this can fix the problem you describe.

      I have a Powerbook 12" 1.33 and at home I usally plugged into my Dell 19" LCD via DVI. As other reader's mentioned, when I first closed the Powerbook lid and then unplugged my DVI cable and USB cable (to my USB keyboard), when I went back to work, my keyboard will be frozen even though I can still hear the fan running. At first I suspect it was the num lock on the Powerbook keyboard, then I thought it was DoubleCommand or SideTrack kernel extension. But this unpleasant experience still hapenned when these kernel ext were not loaded in the startup. I finally decide to FIRST unplug my DVI cable, press F7 to sync the display BEFORE closing the Powerbook lid and the "keyboard frozen" problem disappeared.

      Hope the 10.3.8 update will fix the problem.

    2. Re:This may fix an annoying problem... by 3cardtrick · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've had this happen many times and been annoyed with it. All I did was close the lid again (so that the machine would sleep) and wait another 5 seconds, open it again and it starts up perfectly. Give that a whirl next time and see if it does the trick. Cheers, 3cardtrick

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    3. Re:This may fix an annoying problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I used to have troubles with this as well. Try unplugging your display before you put your powerbook into sleep. What is happening is that if you sleep the powerbook then disconnect the display, the powerbook will wake up. But since you've closed the lid, you won't know and the kernel will do a partial-shutdown after a few minutes.

      hope that helps

  8. Connecting to Samba a lot faster by Nice2Cats · · Score: 4, Informative
    I have no idea if this is actually in the list of features, but one thing that is seriously faster on my little iBook is connecting to my Linux Samba server -- like, wham! It is just there, while before it seem to take some time before OS X made up its mind if it really wanted to reach out and touch another computer.

    So far, no (new) problems. Life is good.

  9. Re:here we go by WMD_88 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple recommends you have FW HDs unplugged during and after reinstall. It's right on the page...

  10. Active Directory by indie1982 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For weeks and weeks and weeks I kept getting an "Insufficient privileges" error when trying to bind OS X clients to our domain. I just upgraded from 10.3.7 to 10.3.8 and I can now bind them to the domain!

  11. Safari IDN Vulnerability by the+pickle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    AFAIK, this still isn't fixed, probably because Apple didn't know about it in time. Can anyone who has the update confirm that Safari is still vulnerable?

    Me, I'm waiting on the new AlBook to get here. No point in updating the Ti when it's getting retired in a week.

    p

    1. Re:Safari IDN Vulnerability by nuckin+futs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      temporary fix, taken from dslreports.com.

      1) You must have the dev tools installed and quit Safari.
      2) Show Package Contents of Safari and go to the folder Safari>Contents>Resources>English.lproj and open up the file called Browser.nib
      3) Click "OK"
      4) Click once on the "Go to this address" box. Be careful not to drag it anywhere.
      5) Hit Open-Apple T to bring up the Font window.
      6) Change it to something basic, like Courier which is fixed width and basic.
      7) Save
      not my fault if you break anything. i suggest you save the original safari first.

    2. Re:Safari IDN Vulnerability by the+pickle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not that I'm doubting you, but *what??*

      How the hell does changing a font fix ANYTHING?

      That has to be the most non-intuitive (read: how in the hell did anyone even think of doing that?) solution to any problem I've ever seen.

      p

  12. Okay on G5 Powermac by kitzilla · · Score: 2, Informative

    No kinks so far after loading the update on my dual 1.8 G5 Powermac. Also seems fine on my older G3 iBook.

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  13. Be careful by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny
    I installed it via Software Update during a dinner party and my kitchen caught fire. The dinner guests just grinned nervously as the blaze spread to the dining room and consumed them.

    Other than that, it seems to be running fine.

    1. Re:Be careful by geoffspear · · Score: 2, Funny
      I've been trying to copy a 17MB file since I installed it at 9:00 last night, and it still hasn't finished copying 12 hours later.

      Plus it made the second button and scrollwheel fall off my mouse!

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  14. WoW by nuggetman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    gotta love the fact this is actually a feature of the OS update:

    Improves the performance of Blizzard World of Warcraft's "Full Screen Glow" video feature.

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    1. Re:WoW by geoffspear · · Score: 2, Interesting
      If you hadn't noticed, most of the "features" of the previous update (10.3.7) involved WoW performance tuning.

      Maybe this could help bring more game development to the Mac. Sure it's just one game they've done this for, but showing a willingness to change their OS to improve a third-party developer's game seems like it would make them attractive to other game developers, too.

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  15. Finder Insecure File Creation Vulnerability by Kusunose · · Score: 3, Informative

    It seems Mac OS X Finder Insecure File Creation Vulnerability isn't fixed.
    The vulnerability has been confirmed in Finder version 10.3.2 on Mac OS X version 10.3.7. It's rated as 'less critical'.

  16. Re:Strange Fan speed by snero3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ignore me I found this on apple's website which would explain it.

    Resolves an issue on certain Power Mac G5 computers where a fan cycles erratically at unexpected times, such as when Seti@home software is running.

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  17. Re:Disk Utility by Ilgaz · · Score: 3, Informative

    I believe APPLE CORP http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=257 51 instead of some 2 self acclaimed geeks and some Slashdot poster who thinks he is über cool by calling people names who only tries to help.

    Sorry for 1 line, the latest security update had better circus going on.

    Jan 31 12:17:22: Disk Utility started.

    Repairing permissions for "Ilgaz"
    Determining correct file permissions.
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Arial, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Arial
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Arial
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Arial Black, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Arial Black
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Arial Black
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Comic Sans MS, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Comic Sans MS
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Comic Sans MS
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Courier New, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Courier New
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Courier New
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Didot.dfont, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Didot.dfont
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Didot.dfont
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Futura.dfont, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Futura.dfont
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Futura.dfont
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Georgia, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Georgia
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Georgia
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Herculanum.dfont, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Herculanum.dfont
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Herculanum.dfont
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Times New Roman, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Times New Roman
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Times New Roman
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Trebuchet MS, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Trebuchet MS
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Trebuchet MS
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Verdana, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Verdana
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Verdana
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts/Zapfino.dfont, should be -rw-rw-r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Zapfino.dfont
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts/Zapfino.dfont
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Fonts, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
    Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Fonts
    Permissions corrected on ./Library/Fonts
    Permissions differ on ./Library/Keyboard Layouts, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
    Owner and group corrected

  18. Myst IV Revelation works by prionic6 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Myst IV crashed on 10.3.7 for me, works with 10.3.8. Cyan said it was a problem with the graphics driver.

  19. Security Update by greppling · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Get it while its hot, or -- if you are less brave -- wait and see if there are any issues.

    Isn't it rather brave to wait with installing a security update...

  20. Blew my vnc away by pprboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get a "incompatible version" error when I try to vnc back in from 2 different workstations. Guess I need to dig out the keyboard and mouse and hook the monitor back up to see what happened. Glad its only across the room.

    1. Re:Blew my vnc away by yabos · · Score: 2, Informative

      No problems here. Using OSXVNC server.

  21. Re:here we go by pudge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which is hard for me since my startup disk is on a FW HD.

  22. Explaining the "Repair Permissions' Phenomenon by bedouin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Those permissions were probably incorrect long before you installed 10.3.8. And if they didn't hurt anything then, they're not going to now.

    I think somewhere along the line a person had a bad experience with an update, repaired permissions, and things were okay. He probably posted to a message board, and people followed in believing repairing permissions is the cure to all woes.

    If you want to keep believing that, it's fine with me. I repair permissions after most updates, but it's not because I believe there is a relationship between the two. The updates just serve as a reminder to do preventative maintenance that you otherwise might forget about -- and it occasionally does fix some annoying bug.

  23. Mail.app by BazDM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mail.app was taking up to 2m to load up, now it is back down to about 10s! So far so good. And, um, I feel a little *bigger*, but it is hot in here.

  24. Re:Disk Utility by the+pickle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You don't have any idea who John Gruber is, do you?

    That's a rhetorical question, but if you insist on answering, the correct answer is "Someone who knows far more about Macs than you could ever hope to know if you lived until you were 1000 years old."

    You, sir, are an idiot if you think repairing permissions before an OS update is doing you any good at all. You probably rebuilt your desktop and zapped the PRAM on OS 9 every week, too, didn't you?

    p

  25. Insane by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 2, Informative
    So I installed it through Software Update, the usual, hit restart. (This is a new stock dual 1.8Ghz G5.) I'm sitting there waiting, and I though man I must be zoning out because I swear I didn't see a progress bar for the boot cycle there.

    So I restart again, and yes, its true - this update has increased the boot cycle on my machine to such speeds that the actual fucking progress bar is gone. The 2nd time I thought I saw a very brief flicker of the progress pane with the bar at half but it was really fast.

    My CRT monitor boots slower than my Mac. Never thought I'd see the day.

    (I even timed it. From chime to login window: 25 seconds.)

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