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Blog Content Based Solely on High Paying Keywords

Doug Nelson writes "Michael Buffington chose to build a weblog using highly automated content aggregation tools around a single keyword, asbestos, because of the high click through rate associated with the ad. 'The subject matter, while weighty and all that, is of little importance to me. It's not that I don't have opinions on asbestos and asbestos reform, because I do. The whole point of the site is to experiment with an idea. I built a tool that helps me aggregate topical news with the help of Google's Alert system. So far it works wonderfully. But there's a second motive as well. Right now asbestos reform and asbestos related litigation is on fire. Lawyers are paying anywhere from $15-100 per click through on Google ads. The second part of this big experiment is to see if I can capture some of that click through revenue while still providing a somewhat valid service to people who might arrive by search results.'"

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  1. advertising traffic? by ack154 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the link to the blog should NOT have been included. It's just driving even more traffic there now that wouldn't be generated otherwise.

    I sure hope "doug nelson" gets a cut of the clickthroughs for posting the story here and getting "michael bluffington" the traffic.

  2. Rationalizing?? by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Providing a 'somewhat valid service'?? Come on, the only real reason he's doing this is the money, and now it's on Slashdot as well! More money!

    1. Re:Rationalizing?? by hamburger+lady · · Score: 5, Funny

      hey, give him a break, he's doing asbestos he can.

      thank you, i'm here all week. try the veal.

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  3. Re:Sad by Sierpinski · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If I can make money from the lawyers instead of them making money off of me, how is that a bad thing?

    I'm just disappointed that I didn't think of it first. Good job Michael.

  4. So, let me get this straight.... by Teppy · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I just now typed "Asbestos" into Google and clicked on the eight ads that came up on the right, I just cost a bunch of lawyers over $100? W007! I think I'll try it again from work.

    1. Re:So, let me get this straight.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ooooh that is fun. Try "personal injury", "wrongful death", or "malpractice" - those gotta be worth something too.

  5. Re:Real name? by RangerRick98 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nah. It's probably Roland Piquepaille. ;-)

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  6. An "experiment"? by Sanity · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Come on, this is a blatant attempt to game Google's AdWords for profit, and now Slashdot is an accomplice by sending a torrent of hits his way.

    What a waste of space.

  7. He chose the wrong word by Bushcat · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Asbestos" is too generic. "Asbestosis" would be better, but the word the ambulance chasers pay a lot for is "mesothelioma", on the assumption the person typing that word already has that problem or is close to someone who has it. I would have thought "pneumoconiosis" would be high on the list, but no-one seems to be tagging it.

  8. Bankrupting the lawyers.... by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At $15-100 per click-through, /. might do quite a bit of damage to some lawyer's wallet. I assume the ads have limits on total numbers, but I'd bet that most of the click-happy people that follow these links won't be actual clients for asbestos litigation.

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    1. Re:Bankrupting the lawyers.... by Shuji · · Score: 4, Informative
      Looks like the original estimate might have been a tad bit optimistic (shocker!). From Buffington's comments after his original posting:

      And so far, my estimates on click through rates are way off. Like, I was smoking crack off. It's too early to tell at this point because Google doesn't give you specific ad stats until three days of data exists, but my guess is that current click through rates are a little over a $1.00. That suggests either two things - my estimates on what advertisers spend is way off, or that Google takes an insane cut. I'm inclined to think the former.

      (http://www.michaelbuffington.com/archives/2005/02 /the_grand_expir.html):

  9. Googlebomb by salvorHardin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think you have to be careful plugging blogs on slashdot, in case somebody starts a googlebomb with the words Money-Grabbing Pseudo-scammer or something like that. That would be unfortunate.

  10. Report him to Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is against their terms of service

    "No Google ad may be placed on pages published specifically for the purpose of showing ads, whether or not the page content is relevant"

  11. Let's follow the money trail... by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This type of thing makes me a little sick. If you follow the money trail, you'll see that this type of thing only serves to hurt people and society and enrich lawyers at the same time.

    1. Companies buy insurance from insurance companies
    2. Regular people buy products from company
    3. Some people get hurt by company's product
    4. Lawyers sue company on behalf of hurt plaintiffs
    5. Lawyers win case for plaintiff, Company's insurance company pays $10 gazillion
    6. Lawyers for plaintiff take 60% of $10 gazillion
    7. Company's insurance rates are raised
    8. Company raises prices
    9. Regular people pay higher prices to company

    So, who pays for such litigation and $100-per-click AdWords? You do.

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  12. The real click through question by onyxruby · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The real click through question.

    How much did you pay slashdot for your link?

  13. Built for adsense - google won't like this by TheUncleBob · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google does not usually like sites built specifically for adsense (as well as being against the adsense terms & conditions ). I wonder how long his adsense account will last before google terminates it.

    Wanting frontpage coverage on slashdot is great for revenue, but admitting to building the site for adsense, well thats priceless.

  14. oldest motive in the book...and good! by tjic · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Providing a 'somewhat valid service'?...

    the only real reason he's doing this is the money

    These two things aren't incompatible.

    The only reason my super-market provides groceries is to make money, and the result is a valid service.

    The only reason the movie theater down the road plays movies is to make money, and the result is a valid service.

    Just because this blogger is motivated by money does not mean that the service he provides is a scam. He's aggregating information, and will likely eventually - after he's been covering the topic long enough - provide knowledgeable commentary on it. I wouldn't be suprised if, in a few years, he's doing original research on the issue, iterviewing people, and digging up articles in libraries.

    What he's doing is indistinguishable from someone starting up a new magazine because they see a demographic that would read it and an advertising base that would purchase ads (see, for example Make). The end result is that all three parties are better off: the readers get something that they choose to read, the advertisers get eyeballs, and the guy who puts it all together gets a slice.

    What you're seeing is actually history in the making - the decoupling of demand-driven journalism from media companies.

    It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.

    -- Adam Smith

    1. Re:oldest motive in the book...and good! by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Does this guy's site sound a lot like slashdot to anyone? Take a bunch of news stories from around the internet, about topics that people may be interested in, and get people to flock to your site. Then make money off the ads displayed on your site. I know I'm going to be marked as troll, but isn't this guy doing exactly what slashdot does, only with a different subject.

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  15. Unethical?! by mariox19 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...it's just a little antithetical, if you know what I mean.

    After looking up antithetical, I'm afraid I must say I don't know what you mean.

    ;-)

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  16. The biggest thing this guy did wrong by technopinion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    was talk about what he was doing.

    The first rule of adsense is you don't talk about adsense.

    If you're making money, keep it to yourself or the next day, a million people will be doing the same thing.

  17. Most Blogs are turning in to Spamblogs by adzoox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have noticed this myself.... most blogs are turning in to spamblogs.

    Engadget (where slashdot gets a lot of its stories) is a great site, but the ad content has risen significantly over the past few months.

    Blogs were originally meant to be diaries and driven by either pseudo journalism for fun or just a way to rant about topics the owner loved to talk about. In some cases, they were meant to be ways to keep in contact with friends.

    The mainstream, embracing blogs, has prompted many of the "original bloggers" to become greedy and place ads all over their sites - whoring different products.

    I have a blog for my website that is used mainly as a comments forum. It has been very useful for me to get into keyword searches.

    I refuse to whore ads from companies to take advantage of some system where I don't merit the money. I advertise on the main site with advertisers that I have contacted and told them the benefit of our synergy.

    Another reason I don't use Ads by Google or a shared banner type ad placement is because Google and "Click Ad Companies" don't police spyware and ad ware banners and websites. I don't want anyone reading my website or visiting my commerce site to be associated with any of that.

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  18. There's a Cottage Industry Built Around This by miller60 · · Score: 5, Informative

    What Buffington is doing is hardly new. Bloggers have been chasing high-paying keywords from the day AdSense was announced. The trend accelerated last year when the Wall Street Journal did a front-page feature about how much lawyers were paying for asbestos-related keywords. Tons of webmaster-related web sites offer tips on similar AdSense strategies, and there's even companies offering to sell databases of high-paying keywords for $199. This guy is actually way late in adopting a widely-used strategy. But by discussing his motivations so directly, he got linked on Boing-Boing and Slashdot. He's an accidental marketing genius. Go figure.

  19. Narrow worldview. by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having grown up with someone who now runs a grocery store, I can tell you that the only reason his grocery store runs is not to make money. His grocery store runs becuase

    a) He enjoys providing his community with a safe gathering place that meets a common need across all age, race, and gender groups

    and

    b) He needs to make a living and in exchange for his service, his community provides him with one

    I can hear all of the Smithians screaming, "but (b) is just another way of saying 'to make money,' they're the same statement!"

    No. The goal of "making money" is significantly different from the goal of "making a living," even if the two employ some of the same means and some of the same ends.

    The former is greedy and unindividuated, it is the process of finding an exploitable point in the market economy and sucking wealth out of it for personal use, even if that wealth could help someone else or even if the removal of that wealth isn't good for other people-- see also lottery tickets, etc.

    The latter is a matter of personal survival and good intentions-- it is asking a different question: "I have to live, so what can I do that will justify my community's support of me and help me to support them as well?"

    I have a lot of respect for living-earners, but not a lot of respect for money-makers. I also don't think that Smith is god; there are centuries' worth of economists (including some very big names) that have basically diluted smith to the point of being to the operation of modern economics what Edison is to the operation of modern technology.

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  20. On fire? by thelenm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Right now asbestos reform and asbestos related litigation is on fire.

    Wait, I thought the whole point of asbestos was for it not to be on fire.

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  21. Meso Info by mcguyver · · Score: 4, Informative

    Having worked in this space for the past few years, I can provide some insight. There are two parts to this issue, the person paying for clicks and the person generating the clicks.

    The asbestos mesothelioma bandwagon started a few years ago when the government set aside a multi billion dollar trust fund for victims. In order to dip into the trust fund, a lawyer needs a valid victim of asbestos. The name of the common disease for those that suffer from asbestos exposure is mesothelioma. The average payout is $1M and the attorney commissions are 40%. This explains why attorneys are willing to pay high prices for clicks. Clicks go for as much as $100 on Overture however in practice you never see those high CPC rates. A year ago, $30 clicks were normal; today it's more like $0.25-$5. Even at $100/click, attorneys are taking in huge profits. Paying $10k for a case or 100 clicks at $100/click can be a good investment if you can generate $400k in attorney fees for that case.

    Setting up a website to capture these pricey clicks is simple but doing it well can be nearly impossible. The asbestos/meso space is as competitive as it gets. Setting up a blog, creating doorway pages, links and content will only generate a little traffic. Doing well in meso requires aggressive SEO, solid optimization, links and content. Having a lot of traffic makes it easier to monetize. With enough traffic you can lease your site to law firms. AdSense is generally very inefficient so it makes sense to cut out the middle man. Kicking publishers out of Adsense will not stop these sites.

    It is an interesting space. The huge settlements that lawyers have been able to generate has fueled a frenzy of SEO activity in the past year. The same activity is seen on TV and print media in Vioxx ads. The most surprising thing here is people are acknowledging online advertising and its ability to sell almost anything.