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IBM Puts $100M Behind Linux Push
IainMH writes "Over at the BBC, there is a report that despite the slow build up, IBM is spending $100m (£52m) over the next three years beefing up its commitment to Linux software. It continues: 'The cash injection will be used to help its customers use Linux on every type of device from handheld computers and phones right up to powerful servers.'" Commentary and coverage also available on TechNewsWorld and ZDNet.
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Say wah!?!?!?
Might be just what it takes to get a large chunk of hardware manufacturers and software vendors to start offering Linux-friendly products.
Sure, it might not start out as Linux-friendly games and gaming hardware, but this could be a very good start.
I also hope that, when IBM starts making money with Linux, that some moral compass directs them to give something back.
There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
And develop an easy-install linux that works on virtually every big-vendor box with a good GUI. Something like OSX but free and for that weird instruction set everyone else uses. *flamebait, kill my karma*
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Why do I get the feeling that in five years you will ask the man-in-the-street what Linux is and they will reply, "That's that IBM stuff, right? Runs on all the 'puters!"
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The cash injection will be used to help its customers use Linux on every type of device from handheld computers and phones right up to powerful servers.
I pledge to install Linux on at least one PC, one laptop, and one handheld. How much of the $100M do I get?
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I know it fits inbetween handhelds and servers somewhere, but it seems there's more Linux growth on those two ends (handhelds and servers) than in the middle, on desktops of Joe user.
IBM spends dough.
Pushing Linux for all apps.
Why do they hate Bill?
Right now Ubuntu looks OK for the Gnomers and XandrOS is just fine for the KDErs [IMHO]. The most important thing here is to have a desktop that works out-of-the-box.
With companies like IBM putting a lot of effort into pushing Linux, it may make businesses that are reluctant to adopt an OS that has a perceived lack of support behind it more willing to try it out.
This is good news and certainly a major push for Linux.
No, they made $2 billion using and pushing Linux and their products which either run Linux or run on top of it.
You make it sound like they're freeloading by pressing copies of Debian and selling them.
They may have had $2 billion in Linux-related revenues, but the cost of making those $2 billion in sales was significant in terms of engineering, training consultants, sales, cannibalizing other resources which were going elsewhere, etc.
How much did they sell in Windows-related purchases in that time?
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Did IBM put this much into OS/2? Man I loved that os...
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Clearly IBM sees how usefull small portable devices can be and their future in the work place. This is great for serious developers of small proprietary aps for hand-helds.
If you consider the fact that by focusing on interoperability and flexability OSS and Linux is light years ahead of MS and other closed coded corps. Of course the ability to keep your small sub aps proprietary is important, but as both Linus and Richard have stated this is the key to technological innovation. If you do not like the crap being sold you change it.
Its simple really. There needs to be an umbrella of sorts to combine all aspects of Linux(kernal) and Software together. Because explaining to Auntie Jenna WHAT a kernel is, its much easier to just called it 'linux'. The common person understands somewhat, what 'linux' is. (btw, pronounced Lee-nooks) Personaly, I belive we should all get past trying to retain the geekness of Linux, and focus on getting the common man/woman to use it by making the system easier to use, and increase general knowledge of the system. If were ever going to beat microsoft, we'll need to combine forces, fighting over what to CALL the damned thing gets us no where :P
So uh, yeah, just call it linux, know your right and move on ;)
Clearly this is almost entirely focused on the server side aka Workplace which is a huge complex assembly of AIX, Linux, Python, Java and RDBMSs. This is aimed at business space that wants to use Linux for things like CRM, Peoplesoft, SAP, Oracle, Seibel and custom made apps.
For a company that made $2 billion off of Linux in the first year, it would seem that more spending would be appropriate.
Companies don't care how much spending would be "appropriate". They are going with spending that they think is going to be profitable, just the way it should be.
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This might seem obvious, but having IBM endorse Linux (by money infusions and advertising) really helps the OS community spread the software into mainstream business. My supervisor is so old-school and tends to favor MS products, but with this kind of support from IBM, I can now at least get a couple of Linux servers up and running without complaints and my supervisor can see the reliability that exceeds Windows in these instances first-hand.
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they'll just end up having one guy go around installing red hat all day and blow the rest of the money on coke and whores.
The thing to remember about IBM is that the are the do-everything company. Where Sun, or Microsoft, or Apple etc. try and sell you one vision of the future, IBM invest in everything, and let you decide what you want.
Want to run Linux sir? No problem! Or Windows? No problem too. Proprietary UNIX? We've got it. Have we got some bizarre other operating systems? Have we ever!
We'll sell you an Intel server, a RISC based unix server, an AMD server, any bizarre server you like. Stuck in the 80s and can't decide whether you want fat clients or thin clients and a mainframe? No problem, we've got mainframes, we've got PCs (until recently, of course).
My point is that IBM may be investing $100m in Linux, but chances are, they are also investing $100m in everything else too. That's the IBM way- because they never stick all of their chips on one technology, they never win big (like Wintel has done), but they never lose their shirts either (like Sun looks like doing, and HP looks like doing with Itanic)
There are people here who still have emotional scars from OS/2. Trust me, IBM will never ever ever ever try to take the lead in end user desktop OS's ever again. They may very well follow others into the Linux desktop world but they will never ever ever butt heads with MS again for out-front dominance.
And if they wanted to, then they should just buy any all of the following:
Xandros
Lycoris
ELX
Which are built as commerical Linux replacements of Windows desktops and not for the Krispy Kreme & Black T-shirts crowd.
The "G4" or PPC 7xxx chips are made by "Freescale Semiconductor". IBM makes the "G3" (PPC 7x0) (which isn't used by Apple anymore), the "G5" (PPC 9x0), and the POWERx chips.
Everything works just like you say it should.
And "auntie jenna" will never install an OS on her computer. She will use whatever came with it when she bought it or whatever someone sets up on it.
From what I've read it seems that IBM is going to commit to making sure that there is a LINUX (Mac too?) client for IBM workspace.
I watched the demo and it looks interesting enough. The question is, do you trust IBM not to lock you into their "all encompassing" back-office infrastructure with no-interoperability? Or Do you just want to swallow the pill and drink MS's cool aid?
What I would like to see is some sort of reasonably easy to program middleware that is cross-platform (XUL for example) to take the place of platform specific proprietary clients. This way the user's PC is not weighed down.
I suppose some people might point out that you can already kind of do this with X terminals, but it seems that using the browser as the way to do everything, either through XUL or HTML/J2EE..ect is the direction people WANT to move in.
Let me just say that I run Linux on IBM hardware and for the most part it's ok. The hardware is managed to within an inch of it's life and there are a number of propriatary componients to this hardware that just down not play well with "FLOSS" deployments. Ie keeping up to date often means loosing propriatary functionality or control for a while.
I see they are finally making progress on integrating more of the hardware into the software ( IE partitioning is kindof working ). But for the most part I spend 3x the time managing the IBM hardware then real commodity hardware like dell's. With commodity hardware I can find better documentation, better written toolchains ( free toolclains that can be altered ). With IBM's I have to reverse engeneer how the software works just to figure out why it stoped working.
Overall it's just an odd fit. IBM is trying to commodidize the OS so they don't have to worry about it, but the problem with that is it leads to the result that commodity hardware is better supported, not what IBM is selling! So the more they push Linux the more we are moving away from IBM hardware and moving to true commodity hardware like Dell's ( at less than half the price per CPU ). IBM hardware may be reliable, but st some point it's just not worth 2x or more of the price.
Software still needs to be paid for- programmers gotta eat. In fact the amount of open source that is written for money is quite significant- much of the kernel and mozilla/firefox/thunderbird etc. IBM have put much development into the kernel- hence nearly getting sued by SCO. Most of the money worldwide in computing is in hiring people to solve your problem, not buying a lot of software- this is what IBM's huge consultancy arm does. These people are best served by great software being available for low prices, so IBM has a vested interest in free software being good.
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I have the an older version R5 running under wine but wasn't able to install 6.5.1
I'm running 6.5.2 under WINE; works just fine.
Also, until IBM releases a native Linux client, Notes will continue running under WINE. The development team actually tests on WINE and if Notes doesn't run, they track down why and fix it in Notes.
Actually porting Notes to Linux will take a while; in the meantime, IBM makes sure that it runs on Linux via WINE.
(Note: I work for IBM, but I don't speak for IBM, or have any connection to the Notes teams.)
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Im sure many wont agree.
I have an older PIII 700, 256MB ram.. Running BSD + kde 3.3
Works fine.. XP would be dismal on the same hardware.
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That they're trying to contribute at all should be seen as a Good Thing(tm). Yeah, maybe the could have spent more, but we're better off that they're allocating anything, no matter what the amount, than we would be if they didn't spend any money...
It is the Licence, stupid.
Some could come along and take the BSD changes, incorporate into a closed project and then change things a little so things are not compatible the open project.
Sure noone would ever do that. Kerberos
At least with linux and other GPL stuff noonecan close off any changes.
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IBM still sells AIX, and Solaris is still the biggest selling UNIX by a large margin. What will hurt MS Windows is the evolution of the Linux Desktop. The current Linux Desktops are basically on par with Windows in usability, now what we need are games and business applications. If companies like Intuit were to step off the Windows bandwagon to make their apps portable to GNOME or KDE, that would be a huge win. If they were to do a good port to Java, the could even support Linux, Windows, and Mac OS with minimal additional effort.
-- Microsoft is the most expensive commodity operating system and office suite vendor in the marketplace.
This is great news! Big Brother is finally going to push linux and becuase of that linux now has a fighting chance to really over take windows. Linux has been needing a push like this for a while. Its a great OS for the tech savy. But now with IBM backing its usage, this may be the first step towards standardizing linux to become more user friendly and accepted by the business community. Lets face it, in order for linux to really meet its true potential to be the most used and versitile OS it must be accepted by Corporate America before it will ever be accepted in every home. The time is near where linux will finally prove to be a stepping stone into the future of civilization and computing instead of windows which at this point is still extreamly limited.
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