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Martian Sea Discovered

mpesce writes "New Scientist is reporting that a large sea of frozen ice (between 800 and 900 km in size and 45 m deep) has been discovered by the ESA's Mars Express Probe. Here's the kicker: the sea of block ice is only five degrees away from the Martian equator. New Scientist also links to a PDF of a paper to be presented next month about the finding." Update: 02/21 15:30 GMT by T : Note: that's 45 meters deep, not 45 kilometers deep.

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  1. Wow... by MalaclypseTheYounger · · Score: 5, Funny

    A large sea of frozen ice??

    As opposed to the other kinds of ice, like liquid ice or gaseous ice?

    Here's your sign...

    Awesome, though. I can't wait for us to terraform Mars, and start our new civilization there.

    And eventually ruin that planet as well. :)

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    1. Re:Wow... by puiahappy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe in a few years we will be able to choose from 3 diffrent tipe of water : 1. Mineral 2. Natural 3. Martian ;)

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    2. Re:Wow... by TykeClone · · Score: 5, Funny
      And eventually ruin that planet as well. :)

      Wouldn't terraforming Mars ruin it - at least in respect to its natural state?

      Everyone knows that nature is static, and how things were 50, 100, or 1000 years ago are the way that they should be today, tomorrow, and forever!

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    3. Re:Wow... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 4, Funny

      Duh...we would have seen the oil wells sticking up out of the ground.

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    4. Re:Wow... by mwood · · Score: 3, Funny

      According to Cary Rockwell, Martian Water is actually a brand of soft drink. Its main use is to get you insulted when you ask for it in tough merchant spacer bars.

    5. Re:Wow... by mwood · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, I think that the Earth of 3.5 billion years ago is its "natural" state. All this oxygen and these invasive species (all plants, animals, and basically anything other than anaerobic bacteria) must go! :-)

    6. Re:Wow... by CptNerd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your sarcasm detector needs work.

      Here's your sign.

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    7. Re:Wow... by Rod+Beauvex · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or even....Vanilla Ice! *rimshot*

    8. Re:Wow... by Rei · · Score: 4, Funny

      You know... that's the first time I've ever seen such internet shorthand as "u" and "wd" along with phrases like "~100 nanometer particles" and "stable suspension". ;)

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    9. Re:Wow... by metlin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe in a few years we'd be able to choose from 3 different types of spelling : 1. Good 2. Bad 3. Slashdot ;)

    10. Re:Wow... by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Funny

      You don't need too many people for starting a colony. After all, people tend to reproduce themselves. Now you might say you need a minimum population to allow for a certain genetic variability. But then, you can just transport enough frozen sperm with you (and also the female equivalent, of which I just don't remember the English term).

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    11. Re:Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Ooh, a sarcasm detector, that's a real useful invention!

  2. Many are cold, but few are frozen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    ... of frozen ice ...

    Not like the kind we get here, then.

  3. Woah ! by Digital+Warfare · · Score: 0, Funny

    Will they find any frozen martians within ? hairy ones at that ?

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  4. And that little speck off to the left... by bobdotorg · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... is a bewildered and gasping Arnold Schwarzenegger waiting for the nuclear heating coils to kick in.

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    1. Re:And that little speck off to the left... by first.last · · Score: 2, Funny

      Californians should be so lucky.

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  5. Re:45 *meters* deep by Council · · Score: 5, Funny

    And it's 900km BY 800km, not BETWEEN the two, as another poster said.

    And it's not actually near the Martian equator, but in Canada.

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  6. In other news.. by LittleGuernica · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, Michelle Kwan has announced she will be training for the 2006 Olympics on a secret "remote" location, devoid of paparazzi.

    Insiders say she also aquired a new sponser, an undisclosed candy bar manufacturer..

  7. Excellent for setting up a Mars colony... by Wonderkid · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...if we melt the water. And my tounge in cheek Mars Hydro website may well fortell a commercial future too? :-)

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    1. Re:Excellent for setting up a Mars colony... by SnapShot · · Score: 4, Funny
      Don't stop there. Mars is a gold mine! Think of the patent opportunities:
      • Single-click purchase ON MARS
      • Hyperlinks ON MARS
      • Huffman compression ON MARS
      • Laser pointer as a cat excersize tool ON MARS

      There's money to be made, my friend, on the new frontier.
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  8. Great! by Netsensei · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now astronauts (or kosmonauts or taikonauts or whatever gets first over there) don't have to take ice with them if they want to have a whisky on the rocks.

    Hmm... maybe I could start a first "bar galactica" and make tons by selling spacetourists stiff drinks at high rates.

    "Joe, one lump of frozen ice in my drink if you please!"

  9. Re:How many kilometers? by The-Bus · · Score: 3, Funny

    How many Libraries of Congress squared is that? Or is the measurement more like LoC / VW because of the Martian moon rocks?

    No, seriously. That's like really small right? Like 1/100ths of an inch?

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  10. James Stinson ain't dead by mmkkbb · · Score: 3, Funny

    He's just colonizing in the name of the Drexciyan Wavejumpers.

    RIP James.

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  11. Fear and Loathing in Mars... by pVoid · · Score: 5, Funny
    And eventually ruin that planet as well.

    Well, you see, the whole attraction of mars is that people can go there, terraform it, and then greenhouse the shit out of it and say "Well it was a barren waste land anyways".

    Mars will be the Las Vegas of environmental concerns!

    1. Re:Fear and Loathing in Mars... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 2, Funny
      I guess that means I get to use my old aerosol hairspray and put leaded gasoline in my car, and use the old RJ-12 Freon when I eventually migrate to Mars.

      Well...I do miss the 80s...maybe there is hope. As long as we can redo the 80s without Michael Jackson...

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    2. Re:Fear and Loathing in Mars... by Hooptie · · Score: 2, Funny
      with summer highs around +1F (-17.2C), do you really think you will need RJ-12 on Mars?

      Hooptie

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    3. Re:Fear and Loathing in Mars... by stfvon007 · · Score: 2, Funny

      So lets just keep making greenhouse gasses here, but instead of putting them in the atmosphere, bottle them and send them to mars. Two problems solved.

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  12. Re:45 *meters* deep by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, this is Slashdot. Since when do you expect accuracy?

    Slashdot: News for Nerds, Editors who don't Edit ;)

    The jury is still out as to whether it's really ice or not. Still, the possibility is enticing. Not only would it be a much needed resource for manned exploration, but it also would greatly increase the chances of life existing there.

  13. Gary Larson cartoon by Redwin · · Score: 3, Funny

    I could just picture first detailed images of the sea coming back with a frozen martian with a slightly suprised look on its face frozen under the ice. :-)

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  14. Hey Quaid , I got 6 kids to feed! by cecchino1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seen the movie Total Recall?

    looks like someone needs to activate the martian oxygen maker thing.

    Arnie Quotes
    "Consider that a divorce!"
    "Get your ass to Mars...get your ass to Mars..."
    "MY NAME IS NOT QUAID!"
    "If I'm not me, who da hell am I?"
    "That's the best mindf___ yet."

  15. Re:45 *meters* deep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now, now, the submitter is probably an American, and we all know how easily they get confused when dealing with the metric system

    *cough*climateorbiter*cough*

  16. Re:The real question is.. by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Funny

    What I want to know is...just how big of a splash can I make on a planet that has less gravity of Earth.

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  17. Re:Makes you wonder about the guys at Science... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Its because they mistitled their list, due to not feeling that "top ten [science] things we got a hard-on for this year" had the required gravitas...

  18. war of the worlds by nounderscores · · Score: 2, Funny

    "No one would have believed in the first years of the 21st century that this world was being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than Martians' and yet as mortal as his own; that as Martians busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a Martian with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency Martians went to and fro over this globe about their little affairs, serene in their assurance of their empire over matter. It is possible that the infusoria under the microscope do the same. No one gave a thought to the older worlds of space as sources of Martian danger, or thought of them only to dismiss the idea of life upon them as impossible or improbable. It is curious to recall some of the mental habits of those departed days. At most Martian men fancied there might be other men upon planet three , perhaps inferior to themselves and ready to welcome a missionary enterprise. Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this mars with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And to mars in the 21st century came the great disillusionment."

  19. Does anyone know? by bryan1945 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if Martians can ice skate? If so, perhaps we could import them here and have a hockey season. Imagine ESPN's ratings for the Mars Cup!

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    1. Re:Does anyone know? by goober1473 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Good point, must be about time that the US expanded the baseball to become the Universe Series, doesn't matter if the rest don't play it'll be just like the World Series now ;)

    2. Re:Does anyone know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No, but upside down they can be employed as track sweepers.... Where's my kaboom?? There's supposed to be an earth shattering kaboom!!

    3. Re:Does anyone know? by yintercept · · Score: 2, Funny
      must be about time that the US expanded the baseball to become the Universe Series, doesn't matter if the rest don't play it'll be just like the World Series now ;)

      Baseball on planets will a lesser mass might be fun. Play baseball on a really small moon or big asteroid and you will hear the announcer truthfully exclaim: "He put that one into orbit..."

  20. Re:45 *meters* deep by dr.+greenthumb · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, it's metres, not meters! :P

  21. Re:How many kilometers? by Cat_Byte · · Score: 4, Funny

    Uhh...is this American football or that other football that is kinda like soccer? Here we go again...another measurement system with international differences.

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  22. Re:Sea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Do ./ poster even RTFA?

    Shhhh...I got banned for a month for saying stuff like that.

  23. The whole Mars thing... by GNUThomson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who came with that stupid idea to name a planet after candy bar, anyway? That's outrageous!

  24. Re:how many ice cubes in a km? by FLAGGR · · Score: 2, Funny

    Since when were km french? You must mean your TheRestOfTheWorld-to-BackwardsAmericanWay cheat sheet. Notice how all science stuff is in metric, it makes more sense (Powers of ten).

  25. Re:How many kilometers? by klmth · · Score: 2, Funny
    You've got your units messed up. The ice field it's 5.166677 × 10^15 football fields For your reference, here's a handy chart of the Internation Press Unit System:
    • Area: Football Fields. Defined as 60x100 square yards, or 501.6 square meters. The European equivalent is the tennis court, which is 668.9 square meters.
    • Volume: Volkswagen Beetle. Defined as 9.75 cubic metres.
    • Information: Library of Congress. Defined as 10 terabytes.
    • Length: One marathon. Defines as 42.5 km.
    • Length: One hair. Defined as 100 microns.
    • Currency: US National debt. Defined as 8 Trillion dollars.
    HTH, HAND.
  26. Imperial vs. metric units by johannesg · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'm sorry to see the slashdot editors cling to the obsolete imperial meter, which is clearly a very different unit from the metric meter which is used in the actual article. You see, the article refers to a sea that is 45 meters deep (this is presumed to be metric meters), which evidentally translates to a sea that 45 kilometers deep in imperial meters.

    So one imperial meter is the same as a metric millimeter. I gotta remember that...

  27. Re:Water is Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Dude, you don't watch enough Survivor. Fire is life.

  28. New Ice Hocky Team forming by davidwr · · Score: 2, Funny

    SPORTS ILLUSTRATED:

    A new hocky team is in town. Despite the ongoing lockout, the NHL has announced a new expansion franchise awarded to the Martian Terraformers.

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  29. Re:Meters not Kilometers... by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Funny

    "According to TFA the depth is 45 METERS deep, not 45 KILOMETERS. ;)"

    Just one more reeason to use the english system...

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  30. Investigating this might not be that difficult... by tillerman35 · · Score: 2, Funny
    ... All we would need to do is have a probe drop a moderately sized man-made metorite or two onto the plate to expose the material underneath the "perhaps [only] a few centimetres thick" layer of volcanic ash.

    /Anyone know if the Brits are planning building Beagle 3?

  31. Obligatory Atom and His Package quote by TANK+Ex+Mortis · · Score: 2, Funny

    "You're drunk with your tradition that has no validity I'm intoxicated with support for metrics come drink a decaliter with me we want metrics want want it now or we know we can't win I weigh 170 pounds that's 90 kilograms see metrics can even make you thin"

  32. Re:Quick let's dump keytones in it by ifwm · · Score: 2, Funny

    You know, your idiotic attempt to slam Bush would have been better if you spelles KETONES correctly.

    I mean, how can you be an anti-Bushie if you can't get your facts straight?

    Wait, that's the first requirement for anti-Bushie membership? Oops, sorry.

  33. Earth First! by wiredog · · Score: 3, Funny

    We can strip mine the rest later!

  34. I'm from Singapore! by ggvaidya · · Score: 2, Funny

    You forgot Newater, you insensitive clod!

  35. Re:rough calculation of volume... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Thanks for making that measurement entirely abstract and useless for us.

  36. Re:Wow...Goes to show by UziBeatle · · Score: 1, Funny


    Some AC said: "I guess its just perspective but we're still very natural creations and therefore our actions are."

    Wow, no matter how hard they try, some folk just don't get modern leftist enviro-terrorist dogma.

    Don't ya see? Your not part of the natural order, your a human and therefor an obscenity. An unworthy being, not part of 'nature'. Anything you do is therefor 'unatural'.
    Your only hope of salvation would be to , for example, bury nails in
    forestry trees in the hope some forester is maimed
    during his exploiting and unatural harvesting of mother natures wonderful bounty.

    I was high on chocolate when I wrote this.

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  37. Re:rough calculation of volume... by Anonym1ty · · Score: 2, Funny
    32.4 quadrillion liters

    Is that the British Quadrillion or the American Quadrillion? - There is a difference.

    :P

  38. Re:spare us your sarcasm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    in soviet russia, ecology alters You!!

  39. And according to user stats... by Engineer-Poet · · Score: 2, Funny

    any such program for agitated copious breathing which required a partner would never, ever happen as long as the people came from Slashdot. ;-)