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Halo 3 In the Works, Set To Crush PS3 Launch?

IGN has an article claiming to reveal a few rumours from around the industry. The most interesting of these rumours is the possibility that Halo 3 is in the works already, and what's more is being targeted at the PS3 launch date in an effort to undermine Sony. From the article: "The release of Halo 3 at the precise launch of PS3 is a pure, military tactical move, similar to the PS2's greatest lineup ever launching simultaneously with the launch of the Xbox and GameCube. It's designed to counter Sony's upcoming launch with the best weapon Earth has on its side, Master Chief." I'd take this one with a big helping of NaCl.

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  1. Probably won't make a difference by Kanpai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The way i see people buy video games and consoles these days, gamers will simply rejoyce and buy both the PS3 and Halo 3 together. After all, they were going to get both of them eventually, same release date or not.

    1. Re:Probably won't make a difference by imitier · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or, since Microsoft will print a zillion copies of Halo 3 and the PS3 is (knowing Sony) likely to be in short supply, gamers will get the PS3 first, and then calmly, at their leisure, get Halo 3. If this is true, it sounds like a recipe for rushing Bungie (by, in effect, letting Sony set the release date) and getting another game without an ending, or worse.

    2. Re:Probably won't make a difference by colman77 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe, but...
      These things are NOT gonna be cheap! These consoles will probably launch with pricetags around $350-$400. At that rate, I know I won't be getting two, and when it comes down to it, I'll choose xbox over ps3 solely because of the Master Chief factor.

      <Halo 2 rant>
      "I'm gonna finish this fight." WHAT KIND OF AN ENDING IS THAT???
      </Halo 2 rant>

    3. Re:Probably won't make a difference by escher · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Any bets on if Halo 3 will end with the Master Chief about to Press The Button what Blows Up The Aliens and then it'll end and then we'll get Halo 4: Press The Button and Blow Up The Aliens?

    4. Re:Probably won't make a difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're missing the point. TFA didn't say anything about Xbox360, NeXtBox, Xbox2, whatever launching the same time as the PS3.

      In fact, it's been estimated that the Xbox2 is due for release later this year, well before the PS3.

      Releasing Halo 3 at the same time as the PS3 is much different than releasing Xbox2/Halo3 at the same time as the PS3.

      People will already have the Xbox2, or those who did wait, will now choose: Halo 3 and Xbox2 or PS3 and... Kingdom Hearts 2.

      Spend $50 bucks on Halo 3 or $350 on PS3? That's the question.

    5. Re:Probably won't make a difference by badasscat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If this is true, it sounds like a recipe for rushing Bungie (by, in effect, letting Sony set the release date) and getting another game without an ending, or worse.

      Come on, say it - it sounds to me like a recipe for disaster on MS's part, not just a recipe for rushing.

      Seriously, does MS expect that they're actually going to make a dent in PS3 sales on launch day? These are by nature early adopters, people who are willing to sit in lines for hours on end, willing to pay $300-$400 for a system just so they can hit the internet and tell everybody how l33t they are.

      At best, MS can hope for some residual sales from PS3 buyers who will also pick up Halo 3. But beyond that, a lot of Xbox-only owners will simply stay home on the PS3 launch day rather than deal with the crowds (those who really want Halo 3 can just order it online, and many will). The end result is going to be that the Halo 3 release will just get lost in the shuffle; can you remember what PS2 games were released on the day of the Xbox launch, or what Xbox games were released on the day of the GameCube launch? Every time a console is launched, one or another competitor (usually whoever's newest in the industry, and/or the most desperate) tries to pull out their big guns, and every time they fail miserably.

      MS is still learning. They're making all the same mistakes that their predecessors did before them. You don't try to take on a competitor directly on launch day. Not with a game, that's for sure, no matter how big of a game it is. For the experienced players in the market (which includes Sony now), a competitors' launch day is a time to lay low... everybody's gonna have their day in the sun, and there's really nothing you can do about it. It's in everybody's best interests to let a launch day be a launch day.

      The only way MS could hope to slow down PS3 launch day sales would be to launch Xbox 2 on the same day (though that's just robbing Peter to pay Paul, since it'd cut into their own sales too). Short of that and they're just committing market suicide with whatever they put out that week.

  2. Master Chef by AtariAmarok · · Score: 3, Funny
    Sorry, I can't look at the character's name anymore without thinking "Master Chef"

    BAM!

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  3. Strangly early to anounce this by FidelCatsro · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It gives Sony plenty enough time to counter with a release title such as another a gran turismo or perhaps several other A1 titles, rather than holding off the big guns till initial sales dwindle .So this could infact end up hurting the sales of halo 3

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    1. Re:Strangly early to anounce this by bigman2003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah..because Sony has a great track record of getting games like Gran Turismo delivered on time.

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    2. Re:Strangly early to anounce this by bigman2003 · · Score: 3, Informative

      And where exactly did you hear '2003'? Was that from Microsoft, or Bungie?

      Back in January of 2004, they first announced the 'fall 2004' date. Prior to that, it was just "when it is done."

      Then, in May, they gave the November 9th date.

      So you might be barking up the wrong tree with the Halo 2 release date. They told us 6 months ahead of time the DAY it would be released. And they hit it.

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  4. WTF? by MagicDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's designed to counter Sony's upcoming launch with the best weapon Earth has on its side, Master Chief. Go, John 117, go! Save Earth from Sony!

    Oh for fucks sake IGN, why don't you just glue your lips to Bill Gates' ass.

    Seriously though, are competing releases really a big deal for video games? I mean maybe it can be an issue on whether you want to spend your $300 on Revolution, PS3, or XBox 2. But one game is not going to derail the premere of a new system. It's not like movies where you're competing to get weekend and holiday crowds, since once those time frames are over, you lose a significant portion of potential customers and thus sales. Video games stay in stores for months. They compete with each other in terms of content and awesomeness, not in terms of who edges who out by a day or two.

    1. Re:WTF? by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      then you should know that it can take just that 1 generation for the tables to turn.

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    2. Re:WTF? by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Nintendo was the biggest console of the last generation. The Super Nintendo is the biggest console of this generation. Short of giving away Playstations, Sony is NOT going to undermine the launch of the Nintendo 64 unless Nintendo does something spectacularly stupid (like launch with only one game: Mario 64, and not have any others available for 6+ months) which isn't going to happen.

      Oh, wait....

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    3. Re:WTF? by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Um... no. The difference between my example and yours is this. My example assumes that the X-Box 2 is out there but not huge, and so they pull this stunt to try to undermine Sony's launch which would otherwise (and I say even if MS does this) huge.
      And that's why it's so silly, and why people are calling you on it. You have no reasonable way to guess that the Xbox2 will not be huge right now (we don't even have a launch date, real hardware specs, a list of launch games, or even knowledge of its controller). It very could 'pull a PS1', especially considering the massive momentum the Xbox 1 has in the US, Canada, and much of Europe right now.

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  5. Re:It's simple by superpulpsicle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Knowing Xbox had the shortest life cycle in the history of any successful console. I'd say Xbox2 will be in the market for almost 2 years before Xbox3 arrives.

    Another words you get a way better bang for your buck with PS3. Yes, I too agree Xbox will probably never win in Japan.

  6. so what? by torpor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if we are expected to believe that halo3 is being used as an offensive weapon, why should we not be expected to believe that sony won't have a defensive strategy in place, which nobody knows about, which is to create another total kick-ass next-generation FPS that "putsches Cell", so to speak?

    its not like Halo itself isn't itself a total rip-off. you think sony can't rip-off too? duh, hello, the Halo Cult is well-known and well-respected.. and certainly not the first of its kind.

    this is just sensationalist tripe in a reactive market (gamers). grow up folks, its only a video game. the hardware, however, doesn't get made with pixie-dust ..

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  7. But wasn't... by bluemeep · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ...Halo 2 received with a collossal "meh"? I mean, it flew off the shelves, but after a few days all I was hearing was a melange of "What the hell?" and "That was the lamest thing I've ever played." After that, is #3 really expected to be such a blockbuster?

    Maybe I just don't hang out with enough XBOX players. I dunno...

    1. Re:But wasn't... by ivan256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know people I work with camped out before midnight in front of their local game shop to get the "special edition" version because they were going to be sold out. The EB near me still has 5 copies of the "limited" release on the shelf...

      Between that and the paid-for newscasts I really have to wonder how much of the Halo 2 hype was real, and how much Microsoft bought.

      How could anybody have possibly worried that they weren't going to be able to get a copy of Halo 2 on release day were it not for the FUD?

    2. Re:But wasn't... by UWC · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The thing is, just as Halo 1 introduced the console world to the LAN party, Halo 2 is now the driving force behind Internet multiplayer gaming on consoles right now. There are countless hours of play time beyond what is apparently an underwhelming single player experience. And yeah, I know there were many Live-enabled games before Halo 2, but Live subscription rates surged dramatically at Halo 2's release.

      The problem now is figuring out if there's anything new that Halo 3 can bring to the table other than a conclusion of the story and improved graphics (I guess we're all assuming this will be on the next XBox?).

    3. Re:But wasn't... by Rico_Suave · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't know who you've been talking to, but Halo 2 was received with anything other than a "collossal 'meh?'" - except from the Sony fanboys.

  8. Re:It's simple by Rousterfarian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Glad to see I am not the only one amazed by this. PS2 = $299 for 6 years Xbox = $299 for 4 years PS2 was easily a better value.

  9. God help us!!! by mooreBS · · Score: 3, Funny

    Save Earth from Sony!

    Yeah and let Bill take over. My ass.

  10. I usually don't do this but... by Headcase88 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This just in! Successful game with a cliffhanger ending gets a sequel designed to gain leverage against the competition! In other news, Walmart will continue selling items in their stores, in a knieving plot to gain revenue!

    The problem with this plan is that 99% of console FPS fans already have the XBox/XBox2 as their consoles of choice. Halo 3 will let Microsoft keep their fan-base, but it's not going to do much to expand it, much less "crush the PS3"

    And if I worked for IGN, I'm sure I'd make up some story about Halo 3 being released on the XBox2 as well. Why wouldn't I? It's a pretty sure thing. Then I guess I'd slap on a header like "Here are two rumours you haven't heard anywhere else" like I'm a revolutionary for guessing that Halo 3 will come out at about the same time as the PS3 launch.

    (I hate IGN.)

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  11. Re:It's simple by Babbster · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Perspective: $300 over four years is $6.25/month. If that's too much money for you, I can only suggest one thing: Get a friggin' job.

    I have all three consoles but this nonsense about Xbox somehow being a bad deal because its time from introduction to new console is too short is ridiculous on its face...not to mention the fact that anybody who bought EITHER the PS2 or the Xbox at launch was a tool of the evil marketing drones. The PS2 launch lineup was a horror and the Xbox had ONE decent game (personally, I'm not a big Halo fan so I wasn't even up for that). At the time of the PS2's release, you could have bought a Dreamcast and a few GOOD games for the same price (or, if you already had the DC, you could have just bought a bunch of good games).

  12. Interesting! by Tom7 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The most interesting of these rumours is the possibility that Halo 3 is in the works already

    Uh, really? You mean they're working on a sequel to their best-selling series of games? The one that ends abruptly with a total cliffhanger? That is an interesting rumor!

  13. Oh come on... by Wraithfighter · · Score: 3, Informative
    Ease off with the Xbox bashing. If there's one thing I've learned about Microsoft in the last five years is that when they have competition in an industry, they do some really good work.

    This is a smart move by Microsoft. Lets face it, the only thing that kept Xbox afloat for the first year was Halo. When Halo 2 came out, Xbox live subscriptions jumped through the roof. What do you think is going to happen when Halo 3 comes out?

    Microsoft is going to have to play all of its cards in order to have a chance against Sony, and doing a competitive release of Halo 3 against the PS3 may get some Sony loyalists to get the Xbox Next, especially if they do the marketing blitz strategy that worked so well in October.

    Oh, and before anyone says I'm a Microsoft fanboy, I'm a mac user. Don't rule Microsoft out just because they're a US company (which many people seem to love doing)

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  14. Re:It's simple by Ericn484 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am sorry but trying to measure out the value for how many years the item was out is not really a good way to think about it. The thing to look at his how much time did you enjoy on each console. If your PS2 sat in the corner while you were playing your Xbox all the time, then the Xbox was a better value and vice versa the other way around. But then again, when I buy a console I am not exactly looking for a "Value". I am looking for what I am going to enjoy more.

  15. I bought Halo2 for multiplayer by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I liked it at first, but it really seems like some element of depth is missing.

  16. No. by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 2, Informative

    But wasn't ...Halo 2 received with a collossal "meh"?
    It really wasn't. It also still remains the most popular Xbox Live game even now, so it obviously has some longevity.

    I would agree that it was hardly a perfect game, but it's crazy to suggest that most players were unhappy with it.

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  17. it's about awareness by Alban · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not about halo3 changing someone's mind about buying a ps3.

    Did you see the marketing campaign for halo2? It was almost like a new console was being released.

    Now think about it. No matter when halo3 comes out, Microsoft will back it up with a huge marketing campaign. So why not make it coincide with the ps3's release? This way, halo3's marketing campaign will accomplish two things:

    1) sell a ton of halo3 copies, which is the goal of any marketing campaign.
    2) burry sony's marketing campaign under their own.

  18. Re:Master Chef makes no difference by cainpitt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doesn't matter. Iron Chef Morimoto would kick Master Chef's ass.

  19. Did you even play Halo2? by MMaestro · · Score: 3, Insightful
    On the first mission the humans are LOSING and the covenant aren't even using their main fleet. Two space stations down (at least), countless ships lost (theres at least one fleet in the area but a covenant ship still breaks through...), and nearly every marine on the Cairo (the station you're on) is killed. Uh yeah, I'd say the human race is getting fu*ked.

    Halo was never a 'one of the kind artifact'. They tell you that in Halo 1. Its in a cutscene, you can't miss it.

    The covenant was NEVER 'a mindless horror', try reading the manual. It was also implied that the Flood had intelligence in Halo 1 as well (they wielded rocket launchers). In one of the levels Cortana even tells you that the Flood tried to escape Halo by sneaking onboard the disabled covenant cruiser before it launched.

    Either you played through both games with the sound off all the way, or you're just ignorant considering some of these facts are repeated numerous times through the game.

  20. Re:It's simple by unclethursday · · Score: 2, Insightful
    My own experience has been:

    PS2: $300, died a year and a half later with constant Disc Read Errors on any disk put in it, finally bought a slim PS2 for $150 a few months back to replace it after borrowing my friend's for over a year and a half (since he never played it). 4 Memeory cards at @$20 each: $80. Total Price: $530.

    Xbox: $200 (bought well after launch, just two weeks before the JSRF bundle was announced) plus $150 total on XBL ($50 on XBL launch, $50 after first year, another $50 this year). Has a POS Thomson drive in it, the drive is now so bad it barely reads anything anymore. MS wants $80 plus shipping to fix it, which will be better for me than buying a new one and losing all my game saves. Total price after I send it in for repairs: $420+shipping costs, $280+shipping costs if we don't count XBL costs.

    GameCube: $200, launch day unit, no problems. 2 memeory cards at $20 each. Total cost: $240.

    As far as not counting the game costs, or controller costs (I've had to replace 2 Xbox controllers so far because they just decide to stop reading when I pull down on the left analog stick sometimes, and 1 GC controller that got thrown to the ground and the A button stopped working), by your logic, the GameCube has been my best value. I spent less for it than my original PS2, and have had it longer than my Xbox, yet it hasn't cost me any extra money because of disk drive problems.

    And I'm not the only one who has had bad experiences with Sony's shoddy disk drives, they did lose a class action lawsuit that forces them to fix or replace any PS2 with Disc Read Erors for free, after all. And I'm also not the only one who has had problems with Microsoft's use of Thomson DVD drives in older Xboxes, either. Google Xobx Thomson problems and see how many hits you get. I'll give you a hint on that one, Google says "about 49,800" hits.

    The PS2 has hardly been a "better value" for me, or for the thousands of others who have had it die in less than two years of use because Sony's QA has gone to shit over the past decade or so for consumer electronics.

  21. Underthinking the problem... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft, realizing that Sony would have a defensive strategy for Halo 3, then responds by launching Halo 4 and 5 simultaneously. Sony replies with a salvo of Grand Tourismo 5 and Final Fantasy: Who Gives a Fuck. Microsoft, in a visionary move, rolls out Halo: Live, featuring gun shaped controllers that fire live rounds of plastic bullets. The Xbox 360 attachment is required, similar to 3D goggles. Sony parries the thrust with the Sony Kikkosan Anal Pumper...