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RFID + Dart gun = DartMail!

breon.halling writes "Snail mail? Too slow. Email? Too much spam. So what's left? DartMail! Tony Tang and Eric Pattison from the University of Calgary introduce a new (well, new as of January 2003) method of transferring files and possibly shooting your eye out. Using RFID and a toy dart gun, 'DartMail lets people physically shoot electronic information at others.' Be sure to check out the movie, too!"

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  1. Whats next ? by flyingace · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are they going to make Dart USB Media, Dart compactflash card, dart gigadrive... basically anything small enough to stick on a dart ?

    Talk about free flow of information...

    1. Re:Whats next ? by serutan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hah! Way back around 1980 some computer technicians I worked with at Tektronix pioneered the InterDepartmental Ballistic Missile. Powered by freon, it flew about 100 ft, streaking over the heads of terrified cubicle inhabitants. They only did it once.

    2. Re:Whats next ? by MikTheUser · · Score: 2, Funny

      Talk about free flow of information...

      You mean free flight of information!

    3. Re:Whats next ? by lxs · · Score: 4, Funny

      Way back around 1980...Powered by freon

      So you're the one to blame for the ozone hole!

    4. Re:Whats next ? by TFGeditor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      About that same time, my engineering department had an IDBD--Inter-Department Ballistic Duck. It was one of those cheesy rubber figures (in our case, Donald Duck) with a suction cup base and a spring inside. Compress it, and it launches when the suction cup vacuum leaks off. We sent messages on bits of paper held in place with rubber bands. Worked great until we accidentally hit a senior manager making a walk-through. The engineering director forthwith confiscated the IDBD and we never saw it again.

      --
      Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
    5. Re:Whats next ? by martinoforum · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's not the scary part. THIS is the scary part.

      From TFA:

      "After being shot, the victim can pass the dart over his or her reader (although invariable this is a guy's thing), and see the file on the screen."

      The reader is a guy's "thing"!? I'm not having no goddamn RFID reader implanted in my thing just so people can fire darts at me!

  2. Drive by spamming by GatesGhost · · Score: 5, Funny

    now spammers can cap your ass in the streets. "get a bigger penis, muthafucka!"

    1. Re:Drive by spamming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hopefully tracking and prosecuting those spammers will be easier then with emailtype spammers.

      We could go ahead and picture D.B.S. using spoofed license plates, zombie cars with automated targetting and tagging...

  3. Think bigger people by FerretFrottage · · Score: 5, Funny

    a potato gun with a message carved into the potato or a carrier pigeon and a canon just seem so much more obvious.

    --
    "Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened by change."
    1. Re:Think bigger people by crunk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That will even work without the RFID. Just wrap a piece of paper around the potato and bombs away.

      --
      It's the battle of the minds, and everyone's unarmed.
    2. Re:Think bigger people by Zenmonkeycat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, you could insert a small written message into a hole in a carrot, then freeze the carrot and insert it into an un-frozen potato. Then you drop the potato into a potato gun and fire it at a car. As long as the carrot is frozen enough, it may very well pass through the metal sides of a car, creating an APDSFCMR, or "Armour-piercing discarding-sabot frozen carrot message round."

      --

      *****
      Dear Mary,
      I yearn for you tragically,
      A.T. Tappman, Chaplain, U.S. Army.

  4. Another Dupe... by drivinghighway61 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, another dupe, this time one over 1000 years old! Letters by arrow? That's new! Way to go editors...

    1. Re:Another Dupe... by Cthefuture · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The thing is, this isn't even that useful.

      This is like shooting an arrow with a message that says: "Go to the post office and pick up your mail."

      --
      The ratio of people to cake is too big
    2. Re:Another Dupe... by grassy_knoll · · Score: 4, Funny


      Letters by arrow?


      ...thwwuuuup!

      Message for you sir....

    3. Re:Another Dupe... by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "you should not have died in vain!"

      "....um actually... I'm not dead yet"

      "well then you shall not have been mortally wounded in vain"

      "um, actually I think I might pull through..."

      --
      http://brandonbloom.name
  5. F=MA by BWJones · · Score: 2, Funny

    Aw, hell. F=MA right? Well, print your email out, wrap it around a brick and chuck that sucker at whomever you want to deliver the message to. Goes through windows, and gets peoples attention much better than a piddling little dart.

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    1. Re:F=MA by TrippTDF · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, the dartgun will go through Windows, too, assuming they write drivers for it.

      this horrible pun brought to you by Monday.

  6. looks like someone... by Datamonstar · · Score: 2, Funny

    ....threw a dart at that server...

    --
    The eternal struggle of good vs. evil begins within one's self.
  7. Shoot me!!! by pacoworld · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shoot me!!! Shoot me!!! Shoot me!!!

  8. Ooh by TupperTrenine · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is hilarious, I am quite literally watching the download speed of the video on their page dwindle down to nearly nothing. Ah, the power of the SlashDot effect

    1. Re:Ooh by Sarcastic+Assassin · · Score: 4, Informative

      While you're laughing at their demise, I'm enjoying 300 KB/s download speeds from the Coral link.

    2. Re:Ooh by flargleblarg · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is hilarious, I am quite literally watching the download speed of the video on their page dwindle down to nearly nothing. Ah, the power of the SlashDot effect.

      Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a website is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

  9. Next on the list: by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    RockMail (TM)!!!!

    Exchange messages with your friends by hurling special MessageRocks (TM) at them!

    Fun with concussions!

    Coming soon:

    VoiceMail (pat.pending)!!!!

    Communicate with your friends by using 'Words' (tm) that you issue from your 'Mouth' (TM)!!!!

    It's Audioriffic!

    --
    ____

    ~ |rip/\/\aster /\/\onkey

  10. spam by Qick · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wouldn't want to get spammed by that...

  11. Hmmmm by rdavidson3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if they make a BFG model?

  12. Video (and site) CACHE by johnatjohnytech · · Score: 5, Informative

    18 Meg WMV File and Html Page is cached at http://www.flipstartforum.com/dartcache/

  13. Coral Cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  14. Obligatory Monty Python quote... by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Funny

    ]]]THUD[[[

    Message for you sir!

    1. Re:Obligatory Monty Python quote... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Prince: You got my note!

      Lancelot: ...I got a note..

  15. Digital "Shots" by dj42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd be more interested in seeing something that would let you shoot a specific bit of information wirelessly at specific people near you. Seems like it'd be a funny way (now and then) to get to know people, by sending weird little one-liners to them from across a room. Among other possible "silent-communication" possibilities.

    --
    We are one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. Back to you with the weather, Bob!
    1. Re:Digital "Shots" by mfago · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sort of like bluejacking?

  16. Unfortunate protocol interference... by lpangelrob2 · · Score: 4, Funny
    We've tried to implement this protocol at our company in parallel with PPTP, but unfortunately we experienced far, far too many dropped packets.

    Fortunately, we believe that better shielding on our PPTP routes will prevent further packet loss.

    1. Re:Unfortunate protocol interference... by Buzz_Litebeer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know your link is in jest, as is your post.

      But I did read about a hiking service that uses Pigeons to send back photos of the hiking/whitewater trip ahead of the hikers so that the photos would be ready when the hikers got back. Wireless tech wherever they were was not up to the task. Just an interesting aside.

      --
      If you don't vote, you don't matter, so don't waste your time telling me your opinion
  17. Offline Messages? by Foolomon · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll be ducking when they implement offline d-Mail. Imagine logging on to the network one morning only to be assaulted by a phalanx of darts coming from the server room...

  18. It's all fun and games... by sbowles · · Score: 4, Funny

    'Til someone losses a server!

    --
    You sly dog: you got me monologuing! - Syndrome
  19. How horrible! by geoffspear · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Just think of the privacy implications!

    Anyway, this would be a lot more "useful" (and I use that term loosely)if they weren't just sending pointers to files that are on a shared server. This implies they've already got a network link between them, making a physical transport even more pointless than it would be anyway.

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    Don't blame me; I'm never given mod points.
  20. Hrmph.. by dep01 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ehh.. I saw this on memepool this morning. Best of luck to the University of Calgary's lab web server...

    --
    "hey, could you pass me a paper towel? er.. I mean... DEPLOY ABSORBTION PANEL!"
  21. One Liners by Eberlin · · Score: 5, Funny

    DDOS attacks on people could get messy.
    The accuracy of the info is only as good as the person's aim.
    Packet-routing could be a bitch!
    Imagine the new-found creativity from those Punch-The-Monkey ads.
    "Are you saying I can dodge bullets?" "No, Neo, I'm saying you can READ them."
    The mailman can put his skills to use: BANG! BANG! You've Got Mail!!!

  22. DartMail name owned by Doubleclick by w00master · · Score: 3, Informative
    Funny,

    Doubleclick (aka Dart, aka online advertising deliverer) has an exisiting product called DartMail. Yes, it's for e-mail Spam.

    w00master

  23. New technology, old question by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Funny
    This here's the most powerful RFID dart gun in the world. From here I could blow your available disk space clean away.

    What you gotta decide is did I fire four RFID tags or five? See in all the excitement I kinda lost count.

    So, do ya feel lucky...punk? Well, do ya?

    --
    That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
  24. Not thinking big enough! by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny
    Feed the RFID chip to a carrier pigeon, place the pigeon into a carved potato and then fire the whole thing out of a cannon.

    The systemic redundancy should deal with "packet loss".

    1. Re:Not thinking big enough! by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 4, Funny

      Feed the RFID chip to a carrier pigeon, place the pigeon into a carved potato and then fire the whole thing out of a cannon.

      I think you might have a problem with packet fragmentation in the RFC1149 implementation.

    2. Re:Not thinking big enough! by lxs · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you might have a problem with packet fragmentation in the RFC1149 implementation.

      Who cares when it's raining grilled pigeons and baked potatoes?

  25. Re:And the point is?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As opposed to posting on Slashdot bitching about how someone else spends their time? ;)

  26. Torrent link by redhat421 · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can find a torrent for this file here: DartMail.wmv.torrent

  27. Not a new idea by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Informative

    Stuff like what you're talking about is apparently very common in Japan.

    --
    retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
  28. TOny Tang by Datamonstar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Damn, I wish my name was Tony Tang. I'll bet there's no end to the number of cool nicknames he's got.

    --
    The eternal struggle of good vs. evil begins within one's self.
  29. Re:And the point is?? by Mathonwy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do you actually have to ask? This IS "news for nerds", remember... If you can't see the appeal in having an excuse to combine geeky electronics + launching ballistic projectiles at "friends", then maybe you're on the wrong forum...

  30. practical applications? by sammy+baby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hey, just spitballing, but what if ammunition manufacturers were required to add RFID tags to individual rounds?

    (Okay, I know how cost prohibitive this would be, as well as technically difficult - how would the tag even survive? But ignore that for a sec.)

    Ballistic analysis during a homicide investigation is usually used to try to determine what weapon fired a round in a given incident, assuming you cant say for certain. But what if the ballistics data isn't good enough? If the round had a surviving RFID tag, it could eventually be tracked back not only to its manufacturer, but to the store that sold it, and in theory to whom.

    Just a thought.

    1. Re:practical applications? by Cheerio+Boy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But what if the ballistics data isn't good enough? If the round had a surviving RFID tag, it could eventually be tracked back not only to its manufacturer, but to the store that sold it, and in theory to whom.

      They already do this with some explosives including gunpowder. Technically they can at least track it back to the manufacturer who supposedly will have sales records that will help narrow down the area to find the suspect in.

      The problem is that they don't always work

      --

      "Bah!" - Dogbert
    2. Re:practical applications? by Feyr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      they do that in recent guns already... except they imprint a serial number instead of using a RFID. much more efficient, less likely to be damaged (or some part of it can still be read) and doesn't cost anything beside the imprinting mechanism in the gun.

      why use rfid? so it's cooler?

    3. Re:practical applications? by hamsterboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Bullet manufacturing" isn't some centralized industrial setup. I have a friend who loads his own rounds in his garage (brass casing + powder + bullet + pull lever = round).

      What you're suggesting is something akin to requiring every compiler to embed a serial number in every executable it generates so we can track virus writers. Easily circumvented by writing your own linker, or opening up a hex editor.

      -- Hamster

  31. Here is a torrent of the Video by TorrentNinja · · Score: 5, Informative
  32. Station wagon full of... by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We're updating the old Tannenbaum comment, right?

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    668: Neighbour of the Beast
  33. torrent by TorrentNinja · · Score: 2, Informative

    whoops.. here is the torrent... 18MB..

  34. Re:xml tag? by MexicanMenace · · Score: 2, Funny

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
    <game>
    <tag>
    <it>you</it>
    </tag>
    </game>

  35. New AOL slogan by SensitiveMale · · Score: 5, Funny

    You've got INCOMING!!!!!!

  36. not new, just an adaptation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    we used to do the same thing with floppy disks between cubicles. Write the name of the person on it, toss it out there into the field of cubes. If a disk landed in your cube and was not destined for you then you were to give it another toss in the general direction of the person to whom it was addressed. Someone (Me) tried a rubber band launcher just for kicks but it really didn't work that well. Practice ended one day when a BOSS was beaned in the head with a flying disk.

    Seems to me those soft fabric frisbees would be good for this since they should fly further and not be such a shock to be hit with. Sew a pocket into the underside of it and put your disk, USB key, RFID tag, or whatever in it and give it a toss.

  37. Wifi Road Rage by mathmatt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd be more interested in seeing something that would let you shoot a specific bit of information wirelessly at specific people near you.

    We should be able to do this in our cars by now. It's gotta be more efficient than speaking in ones (finger raised) and zeros (fist raised)!

    No really, I would only use it only to helpfully point out to other drivers that they left their blinkers on or ask them to kindly allow me to change lanes.

    Fasten your seat belt, you've got mail!

  38. Fun project goof or fascist despot's tool? by says · · Score: 2, Interesting

    About two years ago I saw a guy speak at a school board meeting, and complain about how difficult it was to be a substitute teacher--it's hard to hold kids accountable when you don't know their names or anything about them. He said he envisioned a system where kids would all where electronic ID badges (he didn't refer to RFID but he described the concept) and all school staff would get some kind of tagger that could read the kids info, and append the disciplinary file. Everybody thought this was absurdly authoritarian, but 2 years later there are plans to start tracking students using RFIDS...and the crazy thing the guy said: "When some class clown shoots a spit ball, I should be able to fire a demerit right back" is also closer to reality.

  39. Lawsuits! by dopelogik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Watch out for Trademark infringment

  40. Re:A christmas story? by nezroy · · Score: 2, Informative

    The relevance is to the bit about shooting your eye out. As in, "You'll shoot your eye out, kid!". See link for details if you haven't seen this movie.

    http://www.flicklives.com/Glossary/red_ryder/gl_ bb _gun.htm