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Unix servers up 2.7%, Linux servers up 35.6%

cfelde writes "Linux servers up 35.6% and other Unix servers are up 2.7%. Also worldwide server revenue increased 6.2 percent to US$49 billion in 2004. The blade server market nearly doubled in size to over $1.1 billion in 2004 and 7 percent of x86 shipments in the U.S. were blade servers."

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  1. Who is still selling UNIX? by jimbro2k · · Score: 5, Funny

    We know it's not SCO

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    1. Re:Who is still selling UNIX? by owlstead · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, for starters:

      IBM has AIX
      Sun has Solaris
      HP has HPUX (waiting to be retired in all probability)
      SCO - oh forget SCO, they are pretty much a non-player

      You'd be amazed how many proprietary Unix systems are still out there. Don't forget that a lot of servers are running a specific software suite or on specific hardware. But the server itself needs to be updated once in a while.

      And a lot of businesses like an OS that is very stable, if not that cool or up to date. The one time that I saw Solaris crash was due to hardware errors (and there were quite some Solaris workstations situated at university). Yes, I've seen Linux crashes, before you ask.

    2. Re:Who is still selling UNIX? by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 3, Informative

      Add to that list:
      On the desktop there is MacOS.

      On the super high end there is Cray with UNICOS and Sgi with IRIX. Sgi probably sells more Linux systems then IRIX ones now days.

      I think HP still sells True64 systems but they were putting lots of True64 code into HP-UX.

      I'm sure people still resell used Ultrix, NEXTStep, etc systems too.

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  2. wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Didn't MS claim their server was up in the market as well?
    Are these numbers the same (due to more servers being shipped) or are they actually due to increased market share?

    1. Re:wait by YankeeInExile · · Score: 5, Funny

      At whose expense? If Linux and Unix are both up, and MS is also up, who's down? IBM mainframes?
      At the expense of shops who were using no computer at all. Or abacuses.
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  3. Idiotic windows users... by eggoeater · · Score: 5, Funny

    up 500%.

  4. It's Linux *revenue* that's up 35%, not count by 14erCleaner · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the article:

    When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion.

    Linux servers represented 9 percent of worldwide server revenue in 2004, which is 35.6 percent growth compared to the year before.

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    1. Re:It's Linux *revenue* that's up 35%, not count by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's even better news from a proliferation standpoint, though, because it will lend Linux additional credibility in the eyes of the PHB. "Hey look, other people are buying this Linux thing"...

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    2. Re:It's Linux *revenue* that's up 35%, not count by Frankie70 · · Score: 5, Funny

      OK - so a free product's revenue is up 35%. That's good news.

    3. Re:It's Linux *revenue* that's up 35%, not count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Repeat the words: "I can get a sense of humor"...the same amount of times. Maybe it will come true!

  5. The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to by ThomasFlip · · Score: 4, Interesting

    none other than IBM I would presume. Sun and SGI are dead so I don't see unix jumping ahead in the near future. Apple doesn't come off as a server company. BSD isn't as widely supported (I don't think) as Linux, and certainly doesn't have the momentum. Continue to see Linux Rise !

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    1. Re:The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Xserver from apple is doing pretty well, from what I hear it is very good product. I would also say that SUN is not dead yet. SGI... Well they do seem to have some cool stuff still. I wish them well.

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    2. Re:The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to by javaxman · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Apple doesn't come off as a server company.

      That opinion is so last century.

      The XServe is so insanely great that people are really starting to take notice, even with Apple's historically bad server-side track record. A 36% revenue increase? That's nothing compared to the XServe over 119% unit sales increase. We're installing ours now, and I can see why people like them. They just work, they're damn fast, and they're really pretty cheaply priced when you compare them to similarly-capable systems, and it's honestly really, really hard to think of something they can't do.

      Apple may not come off as a server company to you, but if you were to fairly evaluate the XServe? That thing sells itself... complete with BSD unixy goodness.

    3. Re:The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to by fr2asbury · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sun and SGI are dead. BSD is dead. Linux will be dead by adding a Windows driver infastructure to it. Old people in Korea aren't dead though, they still send email. SCO is undead. When will this culture of death end?

    4. Re:The Linux Increase Can Be Attributed to by jdwest · · Score: 4, Informative

      Just installed and set up a new XServe last week. It is a very nice server, indeed. Although not quite perfect for the point-and-click admins (not that Slashdot readers are, anyway), the hardware is nothing short of incredible, IMO. The only hiccup I've encountered with XServe (10.3.8) is its mod_perl implementation, so I will have to roll my own.

      I have a "nice" Dell PowerEdge 4600 Xeon single running Mandrake that has been rock-solid in the 2.5 years it has been up, but it sounds like a vacuum cleaner on steroids 24x7. It puts off a goodly amount of heat, too -- thank goodness for server rooms. I love it, and am a little nervous about giving it up. It was my first real test with Linux, and I've come away with nothing but good experiences with it. I've come to appreciate the Linux experience from a reliability standpoint.

      Time will tell if the XServe box is as good, but based on my 18+ years experience with Apple's Mac hardware, it stands more than a reasonable chance.

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  6. No mention of BSD! by Mars+Ultor · · Score: 5, Funny

    What about *BSD? I think the absence of any mention here is a clear indicator that it's dying. Anyone have some Netcraft stats?

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    1. Re:No mention of BSD! by FLAGGR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      BSD seems to always get clumped in with unix. Don't see why, unless its the commercial BSD's but meh I'm assuming it is included in the unix category (with OSX too I bet)

  7. Is that all? by Vainglorious+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    35.6% seems a pretty poor record for uptime to me.

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  8. Up compared to what? by bwcarty · · Score: 5, Funny

    Linux servers up 35.6% and other Unix servers are up 2.7%.

    Need a new sysadmin? My Linux and Unix servers are up over 99%.

  9. It's ALL servers up, better news than I thought by RealAlaskan · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It looks as if all server sales are up, not just Linux and Unix. From TFA:
    When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion. Linux servers represented 9 percent of worldwide server revenue in 2004, which is 35.6 percent growth compared to the year before.
    It sounds as if we're seeing some growth in IT spending, rather than just growth in Linux. Notice that Unix servers are still a bit ahead of Windows, in terms of dollar volume.

    Growth in Linux is good, but overall growth in IT means more jobs, and that's even better.

  10. Some of the UNIX's that are still n the market by speighd · · Score: 4, Informative

    HP (HP-UX) Sun (Solaris) IBM (AIX) One could also claim that the BSD versions (like Apple OS/X) fall in the category.

  11. What about numbers? by xRelisH · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These figures are based on revenue, what's the market share in terms of numbers?

    That is, in terms of the number of Unix servers vs. Linux servers vs. Windows servers?

    I don't think revenue gives one an accurate picture of the market share of these servers, especially for Linux since I'd expect the software for Linux machines ( and probably hardware too, since it's off the shelf stuff versus a lot of the stuff from Sun/IBM ) to be a lot cheaper.

  12. MiniMac servers up by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 5, Funny

    but they're too small to be counted.

    i know i had a MiniMac server somewhere on my desk ... oh, wait, it's under my coffee cup!

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  13. Linux server revenue almost equals M$-Windows by Husgaard · · Score: 3, Informative
    TFA states that total server revenue in 2004 was US$49 billion, and that 9% of this was Linux servers. This amounts to US$4.41 billion. M$-Windows server revenue was US$4.6 billion in 2004.

    Looks like Linux is catching up on M$-Windows.

    1. Re:Linux server revenue almost equals M$-Windows by troop23 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Your misquoting the article. The figures for Unix and Windows was $5.2 billion and $4.6 billion for the forth quarter only. That anualizes to $20.8 billion and $18.4 billion for the year. The Linux number is for the whole year.

      When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion.

      Linux servers represented 9 percent of worldwide server revenue in 2004, which is 35.6 percent growth compared to the year before.

    2. Re:Linux server revenue almost equals M$-Windows by Paul+Jakma · · Score: 4, Informative

      M$-Windows server revenue was US$4.6 billion in 2004.

      No, the windows/unix figures were for the last quarter of 2004, quoting the article:

      Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion.

      Multiply by 4 to get ~$25G for Unix, $18G for Windows. So that puts Linux at somewhere around 1/4 of MS Windows. It also explains the "missing $34G" the other poster referred to. It isnt missing, 25+18+4.4 = 47.4G, so non-Windows/Unix/Linux revenue is somewhere between $1G to $2G.

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  14. Missing from the summary by bonch · · Score: 4, Informative

    Missing from the summary was mention of Windows growth--"When it comes to operating systems, Unix and Windows servers continued to grow. Unix server revenue was $5.2 billion in the fourth quarter of 2004 while the corresponding figure for Windows was $4.6 billion."

    That's really good for a non-UNIX server.

  15. 97.3% of all statistics are made up by xtermin8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and 99% of the time I don't care.

  16. Feel good to be a UNIX admin right at this moment by nomad63 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well kinda-sorta. I have devoted last 13 years of my 40+ years life to be a full time computer systems admin, after getting my bachelors and masters degrees in EE and working 7 years in the electronics assembly and manufacturing trenches. I knew that there was an ulterior motive to go in the UNIX direction rather than windoze path subconciously but did not know exactly why and how I ended up being a UNIX guy.
    During the last few years, certificate mills creating an army of windows admin drones, who can only click a predefined sequence of location on the screen with their mouse and passing as "system administrators", I tend to think that, certificate watching management types are going to hire more and more of these admin lookalikes and increase the share of windows in the server room which would make a demise of my careerpath. When I see articles like UNIX/Linux gaining ground on the server room, it makes me breathe a little easier. I do not want another career change, even though, after a week of skiing in Colorado, doing something like that for living is tempting :)

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  17. Everybody wins! by cmburns69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is not an increase in market share! This is an increase in revanue. Microsoft was reporting similar gains for their server division as well.

    When you're not talking about market share, everybody can be a winner!

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  18. Activant Solutions use UNIX -- many new installs by The-Perl-CD-Bookshel · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The business that I'm currently developing a web site for just got a snazzy new POS/Inventory Management/Client Accessible DB/Payroll/Kitchen Sink solution from Activant. They are running UNIX on the back end with familiar Windows machines for the POS machines. Do you need someone on-site that knows UNIX? Not at all, they can diagnose and fix most problems from their headquarters in California. I could see these highly polished, well integrated systems becoming a must-have for small business. Way to go UNIX, way to go Activant for making a strong OS decision.

    P.S. I don't own any Activant stock (if they are even public). Also, I do have a gripe with their lack easy to find web integration information for their seemingly home-rolled database, "Eagle."

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  19. Up 35.6%!! Even for Slashdot, this is meaningless. by kokoloko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At first I assumed it was market share. Then I stopped and thought it must be something much less dramatic. Then I RTFA. Jeez..... Basically, in a growing server market, Linux is producing more money than it did before.

  20. Blade server definition by ZeeExSixAre · · Score: 5, Informative
    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_server

    A blade server is essentially a computer on a motherboard, including: one or more processors, memory, storage, and network connections. The idea behind blade servers is that many such blades can be added in space-saving racks, thus providing compact and powerful computing solutions that are less expensive than traditional solutions (such as mainframes). Blade servers are ideal for specific purposes such as web hosting and cluster computing. Individual blades are typically hot-swappable. Although blade server technology allows for open, cross-vendor solutions, for the time being, users experience fewer problems when keeping with blades, racks and blade management tools from the same vendor. Eventual standardisation of the technology will hopefully result in more choices for consumers; increasing numbers of third-party software vendors are now entering this growing field.

  21. Stats Based on Revenues by geoffrobinson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So somebody who takes a disk, knows what they are doing, and makes three servers is not represented in the stats.

    A Linux box which does two tasks and a Windows box which is devoted to only one will also skew the stats.

    While this stat is helpful on a year-to-year basis to see how the industry is trending, it does not give a complete picture.

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  22. for comparison by Jrod5000+at+RPI · · Score: 4, Interesting

    internet pr0n is a 5-7 billion dollar industry

  23. You're not kidding by delcielo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're not kidding. I didn't get any real respect around here until I started spending money on server class hardware, "enterprise" distributions, etc.

    Funny how that works. You would think that I'd get more respect for NOT spending money.

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  24. XServe sales make that look like nothing. by javaxman · · Score: 3, Informative
    I know it's easy to double your sales when they start small, but an increase of over 119% is always impressive. Especially after you've been seeing triple-digit or near triple-digit sales increases for seven quarters in a row.

    Too bad the story submitter and the slashdot editors have worked together to give us a dollar amount an label it a server unit number, but still.... when looking at server deployments, I'm going to guess that if you're just looking for percent increases in units shipped, nobody this past year is going to beat XServe numbers.

    These statistics are always hard to digest, though... what segment of the server market are we talking about, what constitutes a server, is that UnixTM or does BSD/Darwin count, etc... I always have more questions than such articles are prepared to answer.

    Still, any increase in Linux sales is good news.

  25. Sun by Mark_MF-WN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sun is notorious for producing some of the most stable software in the world. It's not fast, or pretty; it just never, ever fails. You can see this in the SUN JVM; it's about as stable as you could ever hope for. It's ugly and sluggish, but it's abhorrently resilient.