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New Dr. Who Episode Leaked
Cougem writes "BBC News is reporting on how an episode from the brand new series of the old science fiction TV show, Doctor Who, has been leaked onto the Internet. 'A 45-minute episode, called Rose, has appeared three weeks before the series is expected to begin on BBC One. Rose is the name of the character played by pop singer Billie Piper, who will be the assistant to the Doctor, played by Christopher Eccleston.' With people saying sci-fi appeals more to the technical minded viewer, will this TV show's release onto the Internet damage the ratings considerably for the BBC? Or is it a minor problem for a corporation whose role is just to provide the public with entertainment?" Maybe it will boost ratings, instead; the public buzz about "leaks" is still far ahead of the average viewer's ability to actually find and download.
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It will boost ratings instead. Sci Fi fans watch shows repeatedly plus they'll get better quality on tv than internet d/load.
Who believes these 'leaks' anymore?
Or is 'leak' just a fig leaf to cover over the fact that good advertising may conflict with some of the copyrights and legalese?
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You see what happened was Dr. Who downloaded the episode legally from BBC's open archives in 2052, as a piece of nostalgia from his earlier days, but forgot to unshare it from Kazaa again when he travelled back to 2005. D'oh!
Given that the SciFi channel isn't showing it, it can only help the interest within the USA.
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There was a reasonably large argument over there about actually distributing it, but in the end a full seed was completed.
And no I have not watched it, yet.
The argument really did center around - would geeks watch it - or just download it and not support it. If there is no support for the series, then it will not continue being produced.
Counter arguments included: I will watch and pay for it anyway, I'm such a big fan - almost my opinion.
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It's not scheduled here - I need my fix - usually americans...
Anyway, I think I will like it, and if I can catch it on TV, at a reasonable time - I will watch it.
For now - I have my fix if I need it.
JC
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It's shocking, really. They go to all that effort to keep it secret, and dirty bastards go and ruin it all by watching it months ahead of time. The file-sharing creeps.
Having said that, it's a lot better than I expected. Billie Piper is a much better companion than I though she'd be, and the Doctor is quite credible as, er, a time-travelling alien. No mention of that half-human shite, which is nice.
It'd be injudicious of me to mention that the file is called Rose1.avi, and is 366757888 bytes long, so I won't.
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People who loved this series were religious, they'd watch the thing over and over anyway. It's not quite on the level of The Simpsons, but expose any given fan to any three minutes of any episode, and it was "Hey, this is the one where... Oh, yeah, SHE was the Doctor's assistant then..."
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Likewise dont go into watching this expecting it to be the BSG remake others where hoping for, THIS IS DR WHO, like Dr Who of when I was a kid and where watching the 60's reruns. Its campy and funny and ejoyable and a real family show. I know a lot of people where hoping for it to be remade but its not they are making this to be just like the old shows minus the cardbord and celophane sets.
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i personally think the BBC should provide free downloads (by bittorrent or something) to UK residents who have a tv license.
They could probably increase revenue if they created a subscription service for non-UK viewers too.
Warren Ellis reviewed just this (I'm not going to link to his site, it's already slow), and said that Americans would almost certainly not enjoy it. It's (as far as he's concerned) a return to many things that're right and wrong with Brittish television, but far too Brittish for most of the rest of the world to enjoy, especially us Yanks.
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"What did they lose, the ad revenue from one airing?"
You seem to have misunderstood the entire principle of the BBC...no ads at all on their UK channels.
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We don't get BBC over here and PBS hasn't had favorable deals to air Doctor Who in many years in my market, so there is almost no Doctor Who fix for me. It seems like when MythTV does catch it for me, it's an old William Hartnell episode. Bah.
The BBC itself does actually want to try something similar, and you might have seen the articles here about the then director general Greg Dyke discussing a "BBC Archive", and I'm pretty sure the R&D dept. was messing around with Bit Torrent.
However, the main problem (as with the BBCs "listen again" radio feature, but far more problamatic for TV) is the Writers Guild of Great Britain, which is extremely upset that the BBC plans to offer these shows without paying royalties to the writers. They have yet to bash out an additional payment to allow this...
Also, is this series in continuity with the previous series? Or are they going for a tabula rosa to avoid the kinds of problems that plague series like Star Trek? (For example, Enterprise.) I'd hate to see the new series go in a weird direction in 12 years or so when the Doctor regenerates into the Valeyard.
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So when the hell is the Doctor going to get with the times and replace the police box with a cellphone? Everyone else has one, they're very convenient.
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The BBC needs to justify its existence to the general public, and the amount they spend on a series to the governers. Ratings do come into this a bit. Even though the BBC is regularly told it shouldn't be chasing ratings, it is a convenient easily measurable figure for the success of a series.
It is important that it entertains a lot of people. Ideally it should be watched by demographics that are less interested in other shows. The BBC has a responsibility to provide somethign for everyone.
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im a tax payer ( well i pay the license fee for BBC TV ) so technically ive already paid for the Beeb to produce this. I wonder how it can be convulted to prove that if I download it then im not infringing copywrite !
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It could help their ratings, or it could hurt. It really depends on the episodes ability to stand on it's own. If it's a good episode and brings some new things to the table, it will get some good word of mouth amongst those who care. If it is a slop-shod episode, that brings nothing new to the table and is a thin attempt to reskin an old episode, then it will get bad word of mouth.
The risk because of the leak is great. I cannot believe it was intentional due to this; If the episode is good, word of mouth will be good and it will travel through the ranks of Dr. Who fans. It probably won't do a thing to add viewers, because people who don't already watch it, are not going to care, as they never had interest before, and probably won't until it hits the screen. A bad review from the leak, will cause fans to knock the show, and drive anyone who might have watched it to not watch it and hurt viewership.
In short, leaking is never very good. The damage can be great whereas the potential good that can come from it is extremely small. No one cares about good news, unless it is something that they care about to begin with. Everyone loves to hear bad news. Fact of life. That's why the evening news is nearly 100% bad news.
If people like it, they will watch it. If they don't like it, they won't. Is the whole family gonna huddle in front of the computer to watch it? No, they will wait until it's on TV and watch it there. If someone downloads the show and watches it and likes it, they will watch it again when it's on TV. And they might just drag a few more eyeballs to the TV with them. Content producers need to stop obsessing over the control of their content and pay more attention to the quality of the content. Good stuff will be successful, and bad stuff will sink into oblivion. DRM, copy protection, broadcast flags or whatever else that gets in the way, just throws a big wet blanket over the whole process.
Actually, I've wondered why SF has to be so realistic. What's wrong with having sets like a in a play, as long as they set the appropriate mood? Gives Dr Who / Blake's 7 / ST:TOS a whole new aspect. Hmmmm.... "Dr Who live", "Star Trek on ice"!
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For those fans in the UK: apparently (after listening to Front Row) the first episode will show on TV on Saturday 26th March. Looking forward to it...
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CBC was the first international network to license the new Dr. Who series - this was announced last October. The series starts on Tuesday April 5th, at 8pm in most time zones. I'm very impressed - that's only a few days behind the UK broadcast schedule. Its been so many years since I the heyday of Tom Baker - http://www.tombaker.tv/ - Let's hope the next 13 episodes are worth watching!
With any luck, BBC America will decide to show it. While I wouldn't mind having it on PBS, I'd rather have it on BBC America so I don't have to worry about whether or not any of my local stations pick it up. (Although I'm pretty sure KCET would, as they showed it for at least a decade when I was growing up.)
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