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Militants Planned Attack On Indian Software Firms
Alien54 writes "Militants killed in an encounter in New Delhi on Saturday night planned to attack leading software companies in Bangalore in addition to the Indian Military Academy in Dehra Dun, Delhi police said on Sunday Indian police claim the men were members of Lashkar-e-Toiba - a Wahabi militant group fighting for an independent Kashmir. Apart from maps of call centers police also recovered 100 kilos of dynamite, 10.5 kilos of RDX explosive, 450 detonators, three AK-56 rifles and a satellite phone."
No, you see. The militants then proceed to take over the call center, giving out bad advice and in general being mean spirited, causing much grief and sorrow. It is their new method of destroying Western society.
That's different from the normal Call Center *HOW*? For another example read all the phone support stuff from BOFH :)
"Abdul! I tried to call tech support for the explosives, but all I got was one of those damn foreign Americans! Bloody outsourcing!"
Oh, wait. Physically attacking a software company? Where's the fun in that?
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For the same reason that Al Qaeda attacked the WTC and Pentagon - to make themselves heard.
Terrorism is not about sense or economic benefits.
I'd like to thank the New Delhi police for a job excellently done.
That was the point. Those were Kashmere terrorists blowing up Indian call centers. Al Qaeda was not overly concerned that 911 might be harming NYC's prosperity either, on the contrary!
Just do it. It's got to be cheaper than the fisticuffs.
Another brilliant post by Truth Quark! 60 years of conflict suddenly resolved! ...
Now, about Palestine
Bug 133925: Primary source code archives at Bangalore outsourcing site destroyed by Lashkar-e-Toiba militants.
Priority: Critical/Stopper
Having worked in a couple of call-centres, trust me. Some people really can be this heartless in real-life.
In my previous job, I had someone pretend to be calling from the hospital with news that the manager's wife was dying in hospital in a bizarre attempt to speak to them. Note sure what they expected.
Manager: Hi, my wife, how is she?
Caller: Oh, I was just joking about that so I could speak to you. Now, here are some problems I'd like fixed. Hello?.... Hello?
-- Using the preview button since 2005
11 of 25 posts so far have been about Call centres and outsourcing.
I know most of it is humour (of some sort), but don't you think this is being just a bit insensitive? Mod me down if you must, but there must be a limit to self-centredness, even for Americans.
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Would you prefer that we called them disaffected individuals with poor impulse control?
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When work is outsourced to countries that are not very stable, or have terrorism problems, or civil wars, it makes portions of that country wealthy. Those wealthy portions become a target for the local Bad People, simply because it will hurt their enemies more than bombing the poor portions.
many a time i wanted to throttle the fool on the other end of the phone in bangalore...
I guess you are not a member of open source community. In our community it is always the user who is the fool!
I'm much more funny, interesting and insightful than the moderators think
It is a pity that words like "Militant" are used for these groups. We really need a word that summarises "Organised criminal gangs that want to steal entire countries". Of course {flamebait} this word would be useful because we could apply it to the Bush/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz/Rice/Blair/Berlusconi gang as well as the insurgents in Iraq, the part of the IRA that is opposed to the peace process, and the Taliban.{/flamebait} But words like "militant", "terrorist" and "insurgent" conceal rather than illuminate reality.
Panurge has posted for the last time. Thanks for the positive moderations.
Uh, I'm guessing you have no idea about the history behind the India-Pakistan conflict over Kashmir because, if you did, you'd know it's not that simple.
When India was struggling to achieve independence, it became clear that the religious unrest would likely drive the country apart. The solution to this was partition, which divided India into two countries, India and Pakistan (literally "land of the pure"). Kashmir, which was then a kingdom, decided that it didn't like either choice, and its ruler declared Kashmiri independence for itself.
Everyone accepted Kashmir's position but shortly after independence and partition took place, Pakistan unilaterally invaded Kashmir claiming it for itself. Kashmir, with no hope of surviving by itself, and with no other help coming from elsewhere, asked India for assistance. This call for help put India in a bind, because it didn't want to provoke Pakistan unnecessarily (partition itself had been a bloody affair) and so it presented Kashmir with the only viable option: become part of the sovereign state of India.
Kashmir chose India over Pakistan, and officially became part of India. Hence, legally at least, Kashmir is Indian territory. However, Pakistan didnt (and still doesnt) accept this, and refused to withdraw its claim on the region.
Whether or not Kashmir should become independent is a very stickly question. Personally, I'd like to see it happen but, frankly, there's too much at stake - not least of all national pride - for either India or Pakistan to seriously consider it. So the status quo, with part of still Kashmir occupied by Pakistan, remains and probably will continue to do so for some considerable time. Certainly, until Pakistan readopts democracy, its unlikely to change.
By the way, while the India-Pakistan division was based on religion, it's a fact that India now has a bigger Muslim population than Pakistan. And, apart from a few religious zealots on either side, most Hindus and Muslims (and Christians, Buddhists, etc) manage to co-exist peacefully in India.
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What has the world come too, where we have to qualify that we don't like the idea of people dying - EVEN IF THEY ARE IN COMPETITION WITH US FOR JOBS!
I'm hardly a peace-loving, tree-huggin vegan. But this kind of stuff really makes me think that capitalism has really made a wrong turn somewhere. That and our values of course, but, I'm on slightly more shaky ground there.
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Before I respond to the meat of your comment, I just wanted to say how impressed I am with your name calling. Very high minded of you.
Now, about that ignorance of open markets: please explain the whole "made in the USA" movement? By that I mean, some country was always undercutting the price of US products and services. Either clothes, cars, whatever. And yet apparently "ignorant" people made a conscious choice to buy from within their own community to support the local economy. So since when is that so wrong? Were you whining when Japan got bit by Americans deliberately buying Fords? Do you whine each time a country slaps a tariff on an import?
Of course it's an open market. That doesn't mean we slavishly, mindlessly uproot our economy when there are perfectly reasonable, time-tested ways of responding to it.
Really? Because I just got off the phone with an Indian providing tech support for my DSL. And it didn't sound like that horse was "fucking dead" as you so crudely put it. Instead, I had to repeat myself a dozen times, even spelling out simple words letter by letter. So how about this: I'll stop beating the dead horse when these call center employees can actually be competent on the phone. Mmmkay?
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Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
And who is at fault? The Indian, doing his job to the best of his (perhaps limited) ability, or the American company that hired the lowest cost call center with staff with minimal language skills?
no you are wrong.
the problem is that Americans REFUSE to pay what the product is actually worth.
Zenith and Curtis Mathis used to be the BEST televisions in america. They cost between 60 to 100% more than other brands and typically 200% more than import brands.
They both went out of business as american made televisions because Americans refused to pay for them. "Holy crap I can buy 3 sony's for the price of that curtis Mathis? gimme the Sony."
same went for other products. The last Power PC motherboard I purchased cost me $1295.00 and then I needed to buy a processor. 99% of americans will crap their pants at that and run off and buy an Asus for $125.00
my motherboard was Made in america by people that made a wage that allowed them to live and eat. not buy a group of people that were paid less for their week of pay that the janitor here get's paid in an hour.
Americans are not willing to pay $225,000.00 for their SUV, $5500.00 for their PC and $6.00 a gallon for gasoline.
Therefore to make the american consumer happy, third world countries make our products. They do not have to comply with the restrictive US pollution laws, labor laws, or other silly American laws that increase costs.
THAT is the reason. YOU your Neighbor and your family are the reason that jobs are moving overseas. Because you refuse to pay $7.25 for your american Beef Big Mac at mcdonalds, you refuse to pay for american made goods because they are significantly more expensive.
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Really ? Perhaps you just lived in a non affected area when the blue collar jobs were leaving. I happened to have lived in an area where 15% of the population was supported by 3 factories, when those factories were going to be shut down all hell broke lose. The govenor of NY at the time (Cumo) showed up, even though our town had only ~20k people in it. Why ? Because it was a hot button issue.
Of course there is also the fact that when the blue collar jobs went away there were newer easier jobs to take their place. What exactly is replacing the white collar jobs ?
People worry when it effects them. The presidential campaigns hardly touched this issue even though some media outlets thought it would decide the election. Why wasnt it a major issue ? Because the average american has not yet felt the heat, only the tech sector and the aformentioned blue collar sector have had to feel the full brunt of this issue. This will be a much larger issue in the next two elections as china enters the fray and management level jobs start getting shipped out.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." --Albert Einstein
Any attack on our call centers is an attack on America. We should be clear on that.
Speaking on behalf of many people I'd like to say "Muh-wha???".
If overseas contractors that companies use so they don't have to pay Americans a living wage are worthy of our military support, why aren't they paying taxes for us to defend them? These terrorists get zero sympathy from me, but shouldn't we be putting our own house in order?
We just had the congress tell us that they can't raise minimum wage because it would hurt companies too much, so now you want the taxes of people working full time and living in poverty to go to the Indian government so that the jobs we lose to them will be safe? Did you forget we're already in the red paying for two wars? Seriously, what the hell are you talking about?
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