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CherryOS Mac Emulator Resurfaces

Clash writes "Following its initial announcement and subsequent controversy last October, Mac emulator CherryOS has finally been released. Its creator, Arben Kryeziu, found himself in hot water last year amid claims the software was simply stolen from the open source PearPC project. With the code now under public scrutiny, it appears that such allegations are true. According to BetaNews, CherryOS boots up in the exact same manner as PearPC, and its error messages and source files are nearly identical. The emulator also includes MacOnLinuxVideo, which is the same driver used by PearPC to speed up graphics. The CherryOS configuration file also closely mirrors that used by PearPC. Trial download without registration found here."

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  1. GPL by b0lt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If CherryOS is sued for this, won't this test the GPL furthermore? It might finally get a court to acknowledge that the GPL is not "unconstitutional" (*cough* SCO *cough)

    -b0lt

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  2. Wondering how developers feel about this by aendeuryu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is kind of off-topic, but...

    I was always wondering how developers behind BSD-licensed products felt about this whole thing. Before you pounce on me, I know PearPC is a GPLed product, but the way I see it, the risks are pretty similar.

    So, how would BSD developers feel about creating something, having it ripped off, and bandied about by someone else as if it was their own creation, with the original developers getting no credit? Has it happened? Did it cause you to think about switching to GPL, or maybe some other license?

    1. Re:Wondering how developers feel about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "So, how would BSD developers feel about creating something, having it ripped off..."

      The fact is that BSD developers are beyond that and the lack of ego is codified into the license. Its a much more 'mature' license in some ways.

      As such, you can't 'rip off' BSD applications as long as you leave the copyright files alone. You don't even have to display them, you have to leave the credits in there somewhere and we are happy.

    2. Re:Wondering how developers feel about this by amonredotorg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let me quote something...

      Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:

      1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
      2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.

      Which means that they'd still have to credit you.

  3. Free publicity. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why is this fraudster getting so much free press? It would be different if the headline read "Stolen code illegally released", but as it is you might think CherryOS is something other than someone elses stolen property.

    At least this time the schmuk has taken the "trouble" of removing all references to PearPC in the binary. Sadly he's too stupid to remember to change the configuration file format, or the hard coded MAC address that PearPC uses for the emulated NIC.

  4. It's stolen ? by jpiggot · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...in Russia, a new site called "ALLOFPEARPC" is selling the software for mere pennies. Apparently, there's no law against selling it, you know...

  5. Re:why would it be illegial? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes Emulation is fine , Although Stealing someones work and claming it as your own work is unethical and illegal in the way that it violates PearPCs license . This is not a DMCA type nonsence Copyright issue , This is blatently rebranding someones work without permission and selling it as yourown .
    No matter how you feel about Intelectual property , This is immoral , unethical and illegal and rightly so

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  6. Not the only one. by eddy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I saw that Miranda had been ripped off for (at least) a second time.

    Going to all that trouble just to rip people off and install spyware. It's fucking sad.

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  7. Sound by Shinaku · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sound. There is no sound support on this version. We will be releasing an update that will include sound capabilities as soon as it becomes available.

    As soon as it becomes available in PearPC?

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  8. Re:Intellectual Property? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 5, Informative

    OK first off
    IP is broken down into three main areas comenly on slashdot

    1:Patents - Mainly refering to software patents , or the ownership of an idea , most slashdoters are against this and rightly so , as it stiffels freedom

    2: Trademarks - Can be both very usefull on one hand to stop cheap rip offs but also gets abused alot by companys (IE: why pentium is called pentium as intel tried to trademark a number )

    3: copywright : also a two sided blade , abused alot in the DMCA which companys use to stop us enacting our rights to fair use , and used properly in the GNU GPL and Creative commens license which i hope i dont need to explain to people here

    Ok i do dice over the issues , but IP is not just one thing , and in this case its totaly right to complain about people violating IP , its the copyright equivelent of identity theft( well close enough)

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  9. Re:So what? He's just forked a GPL project. by A.K.A_Magnet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Happens all the time. If anyone claims CherryOS is a bit suspect perhaps the same could be said about a number of the *BSDs. Ok , he's been a bit underhand but as far as I can see he's done nothing wrong and hasn't violated the GPL.

    That's where you're wrong not only for the OBVIOUS reason "if you fork a GPL software it must remain GPL" (and I just downloaded the installer and afaik the code IS NOT distributed along), but also because he denied having forked PearPC, where the GPL forces to keep the copyleft of the original authors (ok you can still say "it's my software I coded it all alone last saturday" and let the copyleft in the code, but then everybody can read it if it's GPL'd, so I think giving credit to the legitimate authors is something that the GPL implies)

    Even if the PearPC licence had been more permissive (MIT or BSD style), he would still be a moron who cannot even admit he just took the code.

    In the current case however, he's just a thief and I hope the PearPC developpers will get some support to sue and get the GPL tested in an US court.

  10. Re:It wasn't stolen by BenjyD · · Score: 5, Informative

    Theft means taking without permission. The GPL only grants permission to 'take' the licensed source code if you obey certain restrictions. This guy doesn't appear to have met those restrictions, so he has stolen the code.

    The point of the GPL, in case you missed it, is that modifications to the source cannot be kept from the community if the modifier wants to distribute their work. If you want to benefit from GPL code, you have to give back in the form of your modifications.

  11. Re:It wasn't stolen by nametaken · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The purpose of the GPL is to keep the code and any contributions open. Its specifically designed to keep people from taking 4 millions hours of your work, tinkering with it a bit, closing the source, and selling it off as your own.

    It really is all about protecting our ability to keep software evolving... not about ego boosts.

  12. Stolen? by KJE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, stolen? We can't have it both ways. If it isn't stealing music, but copyright infringment instead, how is this any different? Just cause it's not the **AA being ripped off it's stealing now? Gimme a break.