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Cartoon Network's 1st Original 'Toonami' Series

Rick Ellis writes "Sunday at the 2005 Tokyo Anime Fair in Japan, Cartoon Network unveiled the highly anticipated new series, IGPX. It's a co-production with Production I.G. and Bandai Entertainment and will be the Cartoon Network's first original 'Toonami' series."

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  1. Hope for some new stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd love to personally see Naruto on Toonami. Nice to see CN is diversifying though. Production IG has been involved with lots of anime intros for video games like Xenogears.

    1. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by kliment · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, CN did license Naruto, so I guess your wish will be granted rather soon.

    2. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by darkmayo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Considering that weekly fansubs and scanlations of Naruto are still being done (decent quality too) I doubt that they will be stopping anytime soon.

      Been buying the VIZ translation of Naruto, its been alright definately want to smack some of the translation decisions that were made (Byakugan being called Evil Eye... ) definately want to see how the subtitles of the anime go on the official DVDs before I start buying them.

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    3. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by Khaotix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      naruto on toonami is going to make me cry. I think that Anbu should have been contracted to write the official subs for the anime for a Region 1 dvd rls.

    4. Re:Hope for some new stuff... by BigFire · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ahm, Byakugan is Evil Eye, literally and figuratively. Don't blame Viz translator when they did the job right.

  2. Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Toonami's one of the most popular "programs" on CN right now- what are the odds that we'll start to see things subbed, or at least competently dubbed?

    (First?)

    1. Re:Subbing? by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 5, Interesting

      fans have been asking CN to use the SAP (second audio program) for the original Japanese soundtrack for a while, but no luck yet

      when a network gets the broadcast rights to a dubbed program or movie (anime or foreign film, or anything), do they get the rights to the original soundtrack too?

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    2. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem is that the FCC requires that if you use SAP for a second audio channel, that channel's closed caption track must be in the same language, meaning you could see it in english with english subtitles (if you call the misspelled crap in the CCs subtitles) or japanese with japanese subtitles.

    3. Re:Subbing? by fat+man+with+a+monke · · Score: 4, Informative

      Given the fact that series (Yu-Gi-Oh, Yu Yu Hakusho, Cardcaptor Sakura, DragonballZ) have shown that kids don't care about competent dubbing, I doubt Toonami will have too much of it. But comparing the [Adult Swim] anime to the subbed version, the dubs of many of the series they run have been very high quality.
      Fullmetal Alchemist, [Adult Swim]'s latest anime draw, has even appeared in its entirety, with no content dubbed out (at least, with the last episode comparison I read). Also given the fact that Toonami has been relegated to the late-afternoon Saturday block once a week, its popularity has gone down (at least in the communities I frequent). Right now, I think [Adult Swim] is the main anime draw for cartoon network, and will stay that way.
      By the way, Naruto is coming to Toonami. Which means it'll be shown probably once a week on Saturday. All 200+ episodes of it. That's over 4 years. And even if they do show it multiple times on Saturday, Cartoon Network will probably only buy it a couple seasons at a time, and just keep re-showing the first few until people get tired of it. That's what they did with DBZ and Yu Yu Hakusho Samurai Champloo is coming also coming to CN, on [AS].

    4. Re:Subbing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What dominion does the FCC have over their cable and satellite only stations?

    5. Re:Subbing? by jandrese · · Score: 2, Informative

      Minor nit, Naruto in Japan is only up to episode 128 (and this is counting the hour long specials as 2 episodes each). While I don't doubt they could run to 200+ episodes, they have not done so yet. Many series get killed at fairly arbitrary times (if the storyline starts to suck and viewership goes down, the network WILL can a series; or if the creators start asking for too much money).

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    6. Re:Subbing? by tuffy · · Score: 2, Interesting
      While I don't doubt they could run to 200+ episodes, they have not done so yet. Many series get killed at fairly arbitrary times

      A lot of manga-based shows like Inu-Yasha go off the air because they simply run out of manga to animate and so they end abruptly - occasionally getting finished off in OVAs. Some get made-for-TV endings (Midori no Hibi) and some get made-for-TV filler (Rurouni Kenshin). Since Naruto is due to run out of manga pretty soon, it could go either way.

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    7. Re:Subbing? by Golias · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The music in FLCL is performed by The Pillows, a Japanese garage band of little fame beyond their participation in the show. I'm sure there was no trouble securing the rights to all their materials for the US release. What musical cue are you talking about?

      The soundtrack for Azumanga Daioh is mostly assembled by a J-Pop "supergroup" called Oranges and Lemons. Again, the music was produced specificlly for the show, so it's hard to imagine there were many "rights" issues in exporting it.

      Any similarity between the two (and I'm very familar with both yet have no idea WTF you are talking about) is probably pure coincidence.

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    8. Re:Subbing? by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 2, Funny
      The problem is that the FCC requires that if you use SAP for a second audio channel, that channel's closed caption track must be in the same language,

      Hmmm. (Turns on NYPD Blue.)
      (Turns on audio subcarrier. Spanish.)
      (Turns on CC. English.)

      (Turns on The Fairly Oddparents.)
      (Turns on audio subcarrier. English with blind narration.)
      (Turns on CC. English without blind narration. If there was blind narration on the CC, I'd be ready to smack someone.)

      Ooh, so if I was blind and deaf, I could still watch! No, wait....

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    9. Re:Subbing? by SamSim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You wouldn't have to put the subtitles in the closed captions... just overlay them directly on the video being broadcast. Of course, this is a little unfair to the Japanese speakers who don't want to read the subs, just watch the show in their own language...

  3. Re:In other news.... by R.Caley · · Score: 2, Funny

    Compared to a Hitachi press releas and some guy trying to get people to reqd his unfinished course-work, this is the high news of the day.

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  4. F that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want a season 3 of Big O!

    1. Re:F that! by MrCobaltBlue · · Score: 2, Informative

      As much as I loved the series, unfortunately you can't really make a 3rd season of Big O. The series ended. Think of it like the Anime version of The Truman Show. But instead of just giving up, the "producers" reset everyone's memories (The day 40 years ago when everyone in Paradigm City lost their memories). So its really just a never ending loop, Roger will keep finding out that everything's a fake, then the whole world will get reset.

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  5. Anime Powerpuff Girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe this explains the Anime version of the Powerpuff Girls that has been spotted? Maybe CN is trying to get a presence in Japan?

    1. Re:Anime Powerpuff Girls by Neko-kun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Mind you there is a rather decent doujinshi. Hasn't been updated in two weeks, but for the quality that is produced, I have no complaints.
      http://bleedman.snafu-comics.com/

  6. New? Hardly by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 4, Informative
    This show aired before, but as a miniseries. Only difference is now its a full-fledged series.

    IIRC, it wasn't all that great either.

  7. Re:why? by ggvaidya · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because CmdrTaco owns this site and your soul and you know it!!!

    Search your feelings, or your browser history: you know it to be true. :)

  8. Re:OMFG! by Steven+Gray+(Pulse+U · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It doesnt take a genious to realise why this is here. "Geeks" stereotypically love stuff like Gundams and whatnot, with it's well developed universe. What Cartoon network are doing is capitalizing on the (Also mentioned here on Slashdot) fan-subbing movement, and producing an original series in that style, meeting a growing need. It's not going to make CNN, but for a place that covered the relevent material, and since the subject matter has a clear link to the readership of this site, that is why it's here. Obviously you arent the part of the demographic with a degree in anything. Regards,

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  9. Power Puff Girls Z by Deathlizard · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well that explans this then.
    http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20050401/ta f.htm

    It's about 3/4th's down the page. or click the link below for the quick picture.

    http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20050401/ta f32.jpg

    1. Re:Power Puff Girls Z by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yep, the Japanese use the term "Japanimation" to refer to local animation. For them the term "Anime" refers to animation in general.

  10. Re:Feh by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why do all these shows nowadays focus on some "competition" like a race, or a card tournament? The stupidest one I've seen is that kid's show on saturday morning where a giant arena of people gathered to watch kids fight with spinning tops! It was like ten-thousand people all looking down at a little 2 sq-ft board with little spinning tops smacking into each other, while prebuscent kids yelled at the top of their lungs to... I don't know... get the tops to hit each other harder or something. It made no sense.
    There's never any real conflict in these shows, the 'evil' character is just another player in the 'tournament'. When Optimus Prime and Megatron fought, they didn't pull out little decks of cards or summon holographic monsters to fight for them, they went out there and beat the shit out each other! And it wasn't for some lame 'tournament', it was because the Decepticons were trying to take over the whole freakin' world! I tell ya... thank god for Justice League Unlimited, or kids today would have no sense of proper cartoon violence!
    [end rant]

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  11. Re:Toonami by EmperorKagato · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Japanese fad is sure lasting a very very long time. I don't think something that has been around for over 20 years is considered a fad.

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  12. Re:Feh by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Good mecha is hard to come by (Original Getter robo and the original Gundam come to mind) but poor mecha is easy to come by and little kids love toy robots. So CN just keep saying and getting shows based on poor mecha rather then the good stuff, so all you see is 2D characters throwing in poor one liners and repeating each week. Theres a big difference between what CN shows and what any self respecting mecha fan would watch..

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  13. Re:Feh by R.Caley · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Why do all these shows nowadays focus on some "competition" like a race, or a card tournament?

    1. You don't need to come up with plots.
    2. You have an obvious way to spin off merchandise.
    3. ????
    4. Profit!!!!
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  14. Re:Toonami? by Xoo · · Score: 3, Informative

    You do realize that Toonami has been around since 1997 on the Cartoon Network. The world was a much different place back then.

    I agree the tsunami was a terrible tragedy but there is no reason for them to change the name of their Saturday evening block of cartoons because of it.

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  15. Re:Toonami by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    yes we do, because:

    A: CN is not a children's network, have you seen [adult swim] that was my first exposure to Cowboy Bebop, i, like many other people, never really knew about anime before that

    B: this isn't a poorly dubbed show, this is coproduced in America, so the dialogue will be natively written and performed in both languages

    C: they've been "riding this Japanese fad" for over 10 years, how long do fads last?

    D: alot of kids watch anime on Cartoon Network because its their only exposure, this affects the next generation of sci-fi fans. alot of people on Slashdot probably have kids who are into Toonami and anime, and would be interested in this

    E: because its cool, its news... its for nerds... and if you're an animation fan (like many /.'ers) its stuff that matters

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  16. Re:Toonami by tuffy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe you and your friends are big on downloading fansubs, but the majority of people aren't. Most people get their anime on TV, some from the DVD rack at the store and a small minority from BitTorrent. And since TV exposure has a huge impact on popularity and DVD sales, what the Cartoon Network is airing matters.

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  17. Big O by LordNimon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Didn't the Cartoon Network pretty much pay for the 2nd season of Big O?

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    1. Re:Big O by tuffy · · Score: 2, Informative
      Didn't the Cartoon Network pretty much pay for the 2nd season of Big O?

      Yes. They're even listed in the closing credits. Time-Warner mentioned producing 3 anime shows. IGPX is one, PPGZ is another. I don't think we know what the third one is yet.

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  18. First CN produced kiddy japanimation.. by stratjakt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe for the kids block "toonami", but CN shelled out at least for the translation of Big O, and IIRC, they co-produced it.

    That was for the Adult Swim action block (Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Big O). This is Toonami (Dragonball, Pokemon, Teen Titans).

    Frankly, I'd say that Teen Titans anime' style would qualify it as the "first".

    There's nothing special about this announcement, /. is just parroting another press release.

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  19. Re:Dorks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I know, they need to get a real hobby, like D&D, frikkin' nerds.

  20. Re:Toonami by tuffy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'd rather watch high quality dubs than poor quality fansubs. In my experience, fansubs are usually really crappy video quality, while dubs (on the net) are usually ripped from DVD and are much beter quality.

    Fansubs typically come out at low quality because they're done on a fast deadline. Many fansub groups crave popularity so they work to get the show subbed and on the torrent as fast as possible. So the quality suffers.

    DVDs often have more accurate subtitles and the quality of dubs is good (in general) and continues to improve because the majority of the DVD buying market demands it.

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  21. Who digs giant robots? by TCQuad · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a co-production with Production I.G. and Bandai Entertainment and will be the Cartoon Network's first original 'Toonami' series.

    Um, no.

  22. This is good. by Patrick+Mannion · · Score: 2, Interesting

    [adult swim] already has their own original series, so it's great that Toonami has their own series. I mean Toonami to me is it's own network. I mean a few days ago, the Nielsen ratings started couting [adult swim] as it's own network.

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  23. Samurai Jack by fallen1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Umm, yeah, I want to see Samurai Jack back. I'm a long time fan of animation (Japanese or otherwise) and also love well-written or uniquely written stories. One of the, ohh call it top 20 comics for unique stories was one that had no words in it at all - it was a story for GI Joe that centered around Snake Eyes. All emotions, everything, was conveyed through artwork and the story was, well, well written (drawn). The same is true for one of the best Samurai Jack's that aired - basically no words and all was conveyed through imagery and natural sounds.

    Still, all in all, I want to see more Samurai Jack back on Cartoon Network. GitS: Standalone Complex, Cowboy Bebop, and Full Metal Alchemist are also good to watch plus I'd also like to see a complete run of Witch Hunter Robin.

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  24. Apparently someone at CN is drinking the Kool-Aid by writertype · · Score: 2, Funny
    From the press release:

    "Cartoon Network first partnered with Production I.G. in 2032 to produce five 5-minute episodes of IGPX for an on-air Toonami event in 2003."

    "Hideki -- we have no capabiliity to produce these episodes using current technology!"

    "Aoki, any word from Project X on Titan?"

    "No sir -- it was overrun by the Trog raiders!"

    "Damn. Well, we'll need to turn to the Balrog Omega Ultra Option!!!!"

    *gasps*

    "No arguments! Fetch BoingBoing The Happy Fuzzball and prepare for integration! If we can't make these episodes now, we'll make them in the future! We're going through time!!!!"

  25. Re:In other news.... by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nickelodeon is running a new show too. Who cares?

    Perhaps Slashdot needs an "Anime" section, so people like you could filter such stories out completely, while those of us who can name the song used as the ringtone of Hoshino Aya's cellphone can still get our fix without bothering you.

    (BTW: It's "Beatiful Dreamer", which also happens to be used by Yuya's phone. Yes, I'm a huge nerd for knowing that. Yes, you are also a huge nerd if you know what show I'm talking about.)

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  26. Re:Feh by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 2, Funny

    The stupidest one I've seen is that kid's show on saturday morning where a giant arena of people gathered to watch kids fight with spinning tops! It was like ten-thousand people all looking down at a little 2 sq-ft board with little spinning tops smacking into each other

    Well, "Robot Wars" did so well, they figured "Dreidle Wars" was worth a shot!

  27. Re:Feh by mrbooze · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The fact is, no non-prime time animated shows make *all* their money from merchandising deals. It doesn't matter how good the ratings are, they never get enough money from ads to cover production costs. If you're cartoon isn't selling toys, shirts, lunchboxes, etc, it's losing money, period.

    That's why Static Shock ended even though it was something like the number one or two highest rated american-produced kids cartoon. They couldn't get a toy company to agree to a merchandising deal, and had to stop production even though the network wanted more shows.

    It's a sad fact, and almost certainly the reason most animated shows are crap, especially the American ones.

  28. Production I.G. by wickedj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They have some of the best animation studios around. If any of you ever watched Kill Bill, the animated scene with O-ren in it was done by Production I.G. Top notch stuff there.

  29. Conflict by talaphid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because it requires effort to come up with conflict to lead a narrative all the time. There are only so many little old ladies that can be kidnapped that the hero cares about and will feel a deep sadness when the villain... offs her! resulting in him breaking through and reaching Super Saijin Eleventeen.

    It's also easier to come up with tougher villains. "Wow, that's Johnny Loadeddice, he ALWAYS ROLLS 20s." Just have him crush more kittens as he walks into the arena then the last guy, and you know he's a badder dude than the last.

    But I think you're on to something there. Transformers: Final Deck, where the fate of the universe is in the hands of Yoshiro Someguy who must use his Autobot themed deck to defeat the many foes of Standard Highscool with their Decepticon decks or else the fate of teh universe is teh badsss!11. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Season two they could tap into the obvious expansion, Beast Wars. Season three they can get the Transformers who were all trains and stuck to the train system expansion. Then they can get autovices in season four when the fabric of reality begins to unwind, so that the protagonist and his converted from evil previous seasons' villains buddies can all summon their Autobot Force while searching for the legendary seventh autovice!

  30. Minor correction, major ranting. by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not only is this not the first time an American cable network has had a hand in producing an anime, it's not even the first time Cartoon Network has... They were the driving force behind the production of the second season of 'Big O' (An homage to all the old super robot shows...with an unfortunate name.), several years after the original was produced.

    Personally, I can't see this being good, I'll reserve judgement of course, but still... We Americans tend to destroy even the best of series with general carelessness when it comes to execution.

    Without resorting to non-opposable digits, I can count the English dubs that don't make me reach for the nearest sharp object with which I can kill myself. And I can't even begin count the number that are so bad that I'll settle for a blunt object to just beat myself unconscious.

    We have more movie and television media than any other country on the planet...why can't we find voice actors who can, you know, act? Of course, the simple answer is, we can, even I know they're out there... But the licensees don't feel like paying for a decent dub...and so, that's all we get exposed to. Just once, I'd like a mainstream channel to air anime with SUBTITLES. (Even International Channel changed most of their anime programming to dubs...so what exactly is the point of the channel now?) But then, I don't really care. I don't have cable or broadcast or anything... I just download raws of the latest series from Japan and wait patiently for the DVDs. ^_^

    As usual, just my 2 yen. I hate everything, deal with it. :)

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  31. Re:Feh by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 3, Funny
    little kids love toy robots.
    But chicks dig giant robots.
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