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Google Readies Platform for Video Distribution

Eric writes "According to BetaNews, 'Google is preparing a video distribution platform that provides a complete ecosystem of services for content producers, publishers and end-users.' The first phase of its video upload program rolled out today, and 'content owners will be able to control distribution rights themselves, even setting a price for their video clips. Eventually, users will be able to search, preview, purchase and play videos directly from within Google.'"

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  1. Hmmm... by elid · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A few questions:
    1) Will TV networks sign on to this? Will we able to download last night's episode of 24 for a small fee? How much will they charge?
    2) Why aren't these files DRM-less (see the article)? But Google is an innovator, and maybe they can come up with something fair (though fair and DRM seem to be mutually exclusive nowadays...).

  2. Come on submitter... by gowen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get with the program. You need to jazz up your submission a lot. Your's is much too calm.

    If a product is not going to "Kill", "Murder" or "Burninate" the opposition, I'm not listening.

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  3. Will it work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It looks like Google may have a solution to the problem of indexing video media on the internet; host the content yourself and request the meta-data from the uploader themselves. Then you can easily index the meta-data to make it searchable. It sure beats trying to index any available content scattered across the web with no easy way to extract useful meta-data, but it certainly has the downside that you need to use Google to distribute your video. What if other search engines jump on the bandwagon; we'll have to search all of them to find the media we're looking for, because they won't share their indexes (Which are the valuable part, after all). It could get rather non-customer friendly if we're not careful.

    1. Re:Will it work? by bitingduck · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But if all the meta-data is self reported, you run a huge risk of people spamming you with things that they report as britney videos but are really sales pitches for viagra or something.

    2. Re:Will it work? by crabpeople · · Score: 3, Funny

      "What if other search engines jump on the bandwagon"

      what other search engines?

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  4. Copyright by teiresias · · Score: 5, Insightful

    please be sure you own the rights to the works you upload

    I think that's going to be the biggest hurdle for this service to overcome. I think this would be a great service for smaller production teams or individuals looking to release their creations (although there are a number of services that already do this I believe). But to me, this new service will be largely deluged with people looking to trade bootleg videos, pr0n, etc, as again almost all the other similar services are.

    pending our approval process

    so, is it someones job to look through every video when it's uploaded? To catch any copyright infringement. Again, this seems like a real problem for this and any other similar service.

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    1. Re:Copyright by garcia · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But to me, this new service will be largely deluged with people looking to trade bootleg videos, pr0n, etc, as again almost all the other similar services are.

      Well of course porn will be a part of it as that industry is typically the first to adopt new technology as part of their operations. Of course people will absue the system as you said but hopefully some industries will embrace it as well which could lift the validity of it.

      This could be a very good thing but I really have to say that if people do cloud the waters with copyrighted material the networks, RIAA, MPAA, etc, will do everything in their power to discredit it and bring it down.

      This is a gutsy move by Google.

  5. You can sign in using your Gmail account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm sure everyone on Slashdot has one by now, so use it to skip the sign up process.

  6. WTF by cca93014 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Google now have an ecosystem.

    Fan-fucking-tastic.

    When are /. going to start distributing "-1 - Google Sycophantia" mod points?

    I, for one, welcome our "we're not evil, but we are a publicly owned corporation, just like all the other fuckers; give it a few years before we turn into another bunch of wankers" overlords.

  7. The Google Universe by mwood · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ahh, Google, the emacs of Web services.

  8. Verified uploads... by AIX-Hood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although I love the idea, particularly the part about pay videos if you want, the manual verifying of video uploads by some Google lackey isn't seriously cumbersome. I submitted a video yesterday (late afternoon) and it's still not verified 12 hours later. Unless this drastically changes, I can't see this being used to quickly put up new content for your site or anything where time sensitive material is a factor.

  9. Google Uploader by boredMDer · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Google Uploader app (https://upload.video.google.com/Google%20Video%20 Uploader%20Installer.exe) is, of course, Windows only.

    I wonder how long before someone makes a third party tool to do this on Linux/Mac?

  10. Re:hmm by JayBean · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been wishing that I could purchase TV programming by the show or channel instead of getting a large package of 50 channels when I don't watch 40 of them anyway. This has the potential to allow someone like me to purchase individual shows (channels in the future?) without any extra costs. But I don't know if that is the direction they want to take.

  11. Too many products and betas? by baadger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's alarming how accurately the Google Grid seems to be forming.

    This sounds great, but I wouldn't mind Google Image search results that didn't keep returning 404's.

    In a recent recruitment video that featured on GoogleBlog the nice lady says Google is all about "ambitious ideas, fast responses, big acheivements" but it seems to me they want to pump out new services as testaments to what the Googlers are capable of and show off their cool attitude..without actually producing a well polished and maintained product.

    Who hasn't noticed degradation of Google search results or lots and lots 404's on image search?

    I just hope the grid doesn't crumble and burn.

    1. Re:Too many products and betas? by Momoru · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed, they are all over the place...trying to do everything. I still don't think their search is as good as it could be (See Clusty for a useful new type of search). They seem to be more like a bunch of intellectual kids who won the lottery and want to spend all their time coming up with neat ideas instead of actually worrying about giving returns to the shareholders who bankrolled them. I'm sure that's what alot of you all like about them so much, but if it fails it will ruin future companies that want to be ran like this.

  12. read the TOS agreement by tech-hawger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If your video is too poular, they can charge you for the bandwidth it uses...i wonder if they would warn you first...

    1. Re:read the TOS agreement by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If a video really becomes that popular, Google should automatically implement a revenue sharing model on that video, where Google gets reimbursed for the bandwidth and the publisher would get his fair cut.

  13. From TFFAQ by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    https://upload.video.google.com/video_faq.html

    # Can I charge for playback of my video?

    Yes. Or you can allow users to play your video for free. This is totally up to you and your video distribution goals. As the content owner, you decide whether you'd like to give away your video for free or charge a price that you set for it. If you do charge a price, Google will take a small revenue share to cover some of our costs.

    # How is my content protected?

    Google takes the security of your content very seriously. We've put a number of measures in place to prevent copying or sharing of your content. For more information on our copyright policies and procedures, please read the Copyright section of this FAQ.

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  14. Dark Fiber by KrackHouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This might explain their recent fiber-optic buying spree.

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  15. Re:hmm by jarich · · Score: 4, Informative
    is google answering a question nobody asked?

    ???

    Have you looked at the BitTorrents or P2P networks lately?

    The question is being asked millions of times a day. No one's had a good answer yet, but the question is being asked.

  16. Google's taking over by Kimos · · Score: 3, Funny

    They're breaking into the biggest industry on the net. Porn. First images now video...

  17. TOS by BenBenBen · · Score: 4, Informative
    'content owners will be able to control distribution rights themselves, even setting a price for their video clips.'

    From the TOS:
    By accepting this Agreement and uploading Your Authorized Content to Google, you are directing and authorizing Google to, and granting Google a royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive right and license to, host, cache, route, transmit, store, copy, distribute, perform, display, reformat, excerpt, analyze, and create algorithms based on the Authorized Content
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  18. Invisible Movies by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How does Google know it's "video"? Can't I just pipe my own CDs into the audio tracks of a blank MPG2/4 file? Then I can listen to my own music anywhere, over those famously fat Google pipes. This is fair use of content that I legitimately own, even according to the entertainment industry before the Supreme Court. By extension, can't I rename any file "..mp4", and use Google to distribute it? They're not going to watch all these movies, are they?

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  19. Don't be evil? by uttaddmb · · Score: 3, Informative

    Be careful with the TOS, though. Most of the stuff is the standard Draconian crap (i.e., "we can do whatever we want with your stuff"), but most notable is this bit: "If You have not designated a price for Your Authorized Content and We incur extraordinary costs and expenses in hosting, indexing and displaying Your Authorized Content, we may charge a fee in order to defray these costs." So if you release a popular free video, Google may charge you for the bandwidth? I'll stick with Ourmedia for the free media distribution, thanks.

  20. So much for Do no Evil by bentfork · · Score: 3, Interesting

    3. Use of Content. By accepting this Agreement and uploading Your Authorized Content to Google, you are directing and authorizing Google to, and granting Google a royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive right and license to, host, cache, route, transmit, store, copy, distribute, perform, display, reformat, excerpt, analyze, and create algorithms based on the Authorized Content in order to (i) host the Authorized Content on Google's servers, (ii) index the Authorized Content; and (iii) display the Authorized Content, in whole or in part in the territory(ies) designated in the Uploading Instructions, in connection with Google products and services now existing or hereafter developed, including without limitation in products developed for syndication. This license gives Google the right to copy, excerpt, distribute and display Your Authorized Content via both streaming and progressive downloading technologies, and to display limited excerpts of Your Authorized Content for no fee to the end user. Google reserves the right to display advertisements in connection with any display of Your Authorized Content. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Google is not required to host, index, or display any Authorized Content uploaded, and may remove or refuse to host, index or display any Authorized Content. Google is not responsible for any loss, theft or damage of any kind to the Authorized Content. Sounds a bit evil to me...

  21. Types of video accepted by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 3, Informative
    From https://upload.video.google.com/video_faq.html#ove rview4

    "What types of videos are you accepting?

    We accept any type of video content, with these restrictions:

    * You must own all necessary rights to the content, including copyrights toboth the video and the audio.
    * You must be able to upload the video to us electronically.
    * The video must not contain pornographic or obscene material.

    The content may be reviewed prior to being made available online. If we cannot use it, we'll let you know."

  22. Reminds me of EPIC by mejesster · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's this neat little flash animation called EPIC, about the future of Google. It's been around for a little while now and is eerily accurate. You can find it here: http://www.robinsloan.com/epic/

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  23. Windows Only by saddino · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google provides an application (the Google Video Uploader) to upload video content to their servers. As expected, the program is Windows only. So, I guess Google wants your video, as long as you're not a Mac or Linux user. ;-)

    Interestingly, all of Google's desktop applications are all Windows only. Given their hiring blitz and their well-advertised work incentives, Google could easily find Mac and Linux programmers, so the lack of support for other platforms must be intended. Other companies can make the argument that the cost is too great, but Google can clearly afford it. So, what exactly is the strategy here?

    1. Re:Windows Only by Mant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even if you can afford something it has an opportunity cost, and that may be too great.

      A new app Windows can use is going to bring in much more users than expanding an app to Linux or the Mac.

      So sure, maybe you spend (to pull figures out of the air) 500,000 getting the desktop apps onto Linux and the Mac, and that nets you 1 million return in greater users and so ad revenue. Or maybe you could spend that 500,000 on a new project that gets 4 million return in revenue.

  24. Distributed verification Re:Verified uploads... by jackDuhRipper · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Instead of a "Google lackey," what if they implement a distributed verification people-network of "cotent category experts" a la About.com's Guide Model?

    i.e. One or more folks are in charge of Kids' birthday videos, one or more in charge of original animation, and 10,313 are in charge of the various porn categories.

    They are "trained," "paid" based on performance, and are moderated (e.g. if copyrighted works slip through on their watch, they are somehow penalized).

    The verification bottleneck opens up significantly without Google's staff of Full Time Employees expanding exponentially.

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