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1Gbps Broadband Service for Hong Kong

Limax Maximus writes "Hong Kong is planning to launch a 1Gbps broadband home service. Although the idea of using shared infrastructure is nothing new for TV/phone/data this appears to be the first to do this over IP at such high speed. The cost is high - 215 USD a month. Per megabit, however, this is a very cheap service. This kind of solution only really works in town blocks where cat5 cabling is a realistic option."

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  1. HKBN BB100 by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They are also offering BB100, a 100Mbps service, that is similar to the price of regular ADSL in Hong Kong.

    More information here: http://bb100.hkbn.net/BB100/index_e.htm

  2. Faster, but for what? by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While per megabyte/second it seems very cheap, you have to consider what your internet usage actually is. If you're only using the internet for an hour or two a day (and who among us doesn't?), then this faster speed internet is a lot more expensive than normal slower service. You're paying more, but not using more. That's not a better value, that's getting ripped off.

    Even if you had this faster pipe, what would you do with it? Download more porn? Upload more MP3s?

    I see the benefit for a fatter pipe for businesses who need to serve up large amounts of data, but for the average user, faster does very little. It's nothing like the jump from dialup to broadband. We are as fast as we need to be. Page downloads are already instantaneous, how can you seriously improve over instantaneous.

    1. Re:Faster, but for what? by Libor+Vanek · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah - that's the trick! Almost nobody will use full 1 Gbps capacity BUT it sounds cool to have it :-)

  3. Re:shouldnt it be by SithGod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually you can run 1 Gb/s over Cat5e cabling. Cat6 is just better suited for it

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  4. Re:Can neighbors share/resell. by grolschie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well it will be as soon as someone installs a WiFi AP without changing the default settings. ;-)

  5. Re:Firewall of China? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hong-kong has been kept in a sort of Capitalist sand-box in many ways , so it does not suffer the same restrictions as the rest of china. iirc

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  6. Why is this so cheap? by neomage86 · · Score: 4, Informative

    1 gbps is more bandwidth than an OC-48, which run for about 700,000 US dollars/month. I understand that consumers will only use a tiny fraction of their allocated bandwidth, and they don't demand the level of stability that an enterprise line needs. Still, you've got to figure that the ISP need to dedicate at least 50mbps of bandwidth to each customer (approx a DS3), and that would still be about $15,000 a month.

    1. Re:Why is this so cheap? by xstein · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not so.

      Read the fine print. Overseas bandwidth is capped at 20mbits. (sorry for chinese language) It's only local traffic that will run at 1Gps, and that costs them nothing as they own all the fibre.

  7. This already exists in Sweden. by pomac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In sweden www.bredband2.se offers 1 Gbit connections for 118,60 USD. This is without limits.

    For more information and so forth (in swedish) see www.labs2.se

  8. Re:Firewall of China? by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, our net access is not regulated or monitored by China. China has to maintain some distance from us until 2047, and any action that reeks of Beijing's hand would be met with massive resistance in HK.

    Hong Kongers love their market economy and freedoms, often citing it as an example of why HK is a better place to live and work than other rivals in the region like Singapore and Shanghai.

  9. Conquer Taiwan by AtariAmarok · · Score: 3, Funny

    If China wants to add Taiwan to its territory, why not entice them with offers of free or cheap broadband? This is sure to win more hearts than the current line which is "We'll bomb you to bits and kill you all if you acknowledge the obvious fact that you've been an independent country for 50 years."

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    1. Re:Conquer Taiwan by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny
      "Why doesn't China entice Taiwanese with special offers? Because the Taiwanese block spam from China too."

      Which leaves those Taiwanese to shake their heads in envy as they look across the Straights of Formosa to China, where they see the men standing on the shore taunting them by waving their prodigious giant penises and making 1/2 km jumps with their super HGH-herb-enhanced powers. They say to themselves "See? If we could get Chinese spam, we'd be just like that!"

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  10. A communist sandbox? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Hong-kong has been kept in a sort of Capitalist sand-box in many ways "

    Is that the opposite of a Communist Sandbox? Remember the old joke: "What do you get if you bring communism to the Sahara Desert? Well, at first, nothing. Then, after 10 years, you get a shortage of sand."

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  11. from TFA by pasokon · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...enables the carrier to converge its legacy voice and data services and a new pay-TV service into a single platform, and at the same time offer Layer 2 and 3 IP services using Resilient Packet Ring (RPR)-ready ML Series line cards. The network enables HKBN to deliver up to 200 digital pay-TV channels via MPEG-2 at 4.5 Mbps to 10 Mbps with DVD visual quality. Its service also features interactive pay-TV elements and enables PC or TV connection with the aid of a set-top box.


    DVD-quality digital broadcasts, and VOIP-like service (?)
    sounds interesting to me.
  12. Re:Ok, since people insist America isn't "behind" by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "The whole reason we're "Behind" is because we have to update old technology, whereas most of the Aisan countries weren't as technologically advanced as we were until recently. Then they could go on making new technology, whereas we have to spend money to replace older stuff."

    I don't "get it". How does "not having anything in the first place" make it cheaper and easier? I'd guess that there would be no difference either way, and it might be a little easier to upgrade in the US if you have cable conduits all over the cities and wiring in the house for it.

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  13. Re:Firewall of China? by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    It is trying to narrow that gap, surely.

    However, by law it can't meddle all that much with Hong Kong's affairs, at least not without violating their agreement with the British and pissing off Hong Kong's 7 million people (and many in China who view Hong Kong as a democratic beacon of hope).

    After a massive protest in HK, China decided to lay off enforcing Article 23, which dealt with subversion. It also lead, indirectly, to the Chief Executive (our leader) getting sacked. The debate now is when (not if) Hong Kong will be able to elect its own leaders.

    There's a large voice of dissent in Washington against China, especially with their yuan policy. I suppose that may be the reason the US sees things over here in a very negative light.

  14. Re:Ok, since people insist America isn't "behind" by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ofcourse ,You need to stop complaining now as the people of Peru are far worse off than you and they shouldnt complain as the people of Papua new guinea are worse off than them and.... so the beat goes on

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  15. P2P by MarkByers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With peer-to-peer, the more popular a download is, the faster it can be downloaded. The limit is the speed of the internet connections of those trading file pieces. There is no central bottleneck. With a few high speed connections uploading, everyone's downloads will be faster.

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  16. Re:what for ...? by JamesTRexx · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh come on... This is /., we all know that stack of Playboys under your bed is just an offline backup in case your internet connection fails.

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  17. Re:Firewall of China? by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's not so much China-imposed censorship than censorship by Hong Kongers who are pro-China. It's not so much about politics as it is about business.

    Many in the media feel if they report against China's wishes, they will be left out. It's not all too different from what many in the US media feel about the White House.

    In any case, the two leading English-language newspapers are, AFAIK, not censored.

  18. Re:Firewall of China? by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Informative
    Off topic -- but what about the heavy newspaper censorship imposed by China in HK then?

    There isn't any "imposed", but much of the media is owned by moguls who suck up to Beijing to further their business interests. But notably critical of China is Jimmy Lai's Next and Apple Daily, (along with showbiz gossip). In HK we still have a local relay of the BBC World Service on AM radio, unchanged from before the handover.

  19. Re:Ok, since people insist America isn't "behind" by Regul8or · · Score: 4, Informative

    The only parts of America that are behind are the areas with monopolistic corporations that have no motivation to offer a more powerful service. In East Wenatchee, WA, the Douglas County Public Utilities District has laid fiber to the demarc( yes, to each and single house) and is offering 100 mbps symmetrical fiber internet service for $39.95/month. http://www.localtelonline.com/dbf.htm The PUD can get away with trampling all over inferior competing providers without getting sued by Charter and Verizon because the city isn't large enough to fight over.

  20. Re:Thanks to piracy by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Interesting
    In HK if we want pirated DVDs or software, we can buy it for about 50c/disk. Less hassle than downloading mostly. Though I suppose BitTorrent will pick up when people want to see the new episodes of Survivor or whatever. (Even though the overseas bandwidth is capped, local P2P will go much faster once there's a local seed or two.)

    But the commercial motivation is probably video on demand, and video phones.

  21. Re:Firewall of China? by 0x461FAB0BD7D2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    cHina is not monitoring mE. if you think that, you reaLly need to see a Psychiatrist imMEdiately.