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1Gbps Broadband Service for Hong Kong
Limax Maximus writes "Hong Kong is planning to launch a 1Gbps broadband home service. Although the idea of using shared infrastructure is nothing new for TV/phone/data this appears to be the first to do this over IP at such high speed. The cost is high - 215 USD a month. Per megabit, however, this is a very cheap service. This kind of solution only really works in town blocks where cat5 cabling is a realistic option."
Please let me know where I can get this gigabit service in the US, so I can buy a few lines and open a data center.
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This is a great & affordable plan for even the non-wealthy if communiies can share it
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They are also offering BB100, a 100Mbps service, that is similar to the price of regular ADSL in Hong Kong.
More information here: http://bb100.hkbn.net/BB100/index_e.htm
really: what the use of such a broad band from a normal user???
I am assuming that Hong Kong is subject to the same 'Net censorship that the rest of mainland China is? Or is this true?
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While per megabyte/second it seems very cheap, you have to consider what your internet usage actually is. If you're only using the internet for an hour or two a day (and who among us doesn't?), then this faster speed internet is a lot more expensive than normal slower service. You're paying more, but not using more. That's not a better value, that's getting ripped off.
Even if you had this faster pipe, what would you do with it? Download more porn? Upload more MP3s?
I see the benefit for a fatter pipe for businesses who need to serve up large amounts of data, but for the average user, faster does very little. It's nothing like the jump from dialup to broadband. We are as fast as we need to be. Page downloads are already instantaneous, how can you seriously improve over instantaneous.
what can you actually do with it apart from share files between neighbours/towns? I can't imagine most normal websites being able to keep up with a 1Gbps connection, and surely the PC rendering webpages/other content becomes the bottleneck?
I do suppose the question really is: what's the speed of the backbone between Hong Kong and the rest of the world, and what's the contention going to be like once people start taking this up?
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1 gbps is more bandwidth than an OC-48, which run for about 700,000 US dollars/month. I understand that consumers will only use a tiny fraction of their allocated bandwidth, and they don't demand the level of stability that an enterprise line needs. Still, you've got to figure that the ISP need to dedicate at least 50mbps of bandwidth to each customer (approx a DS3), and that would still be about $15,000 a month.
In sweden www.bredband2.se offers 1 Gbit connections for 118,60 USD. This is without limits.
For more information and so forth (in swedish) see www.labs2.se
how is paying more for a faster line you dont use "getting ripped off"?
Its not like they force people to use this option...
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If China wants to add Taiwan to its territory, why not entice them with offers of free or cheap broadband? This is sure to win more hearts than the current line which is "We'll bomb you to bits and kill you all if you acknowledge the obvious fact that you've been an independent country for 50 years."
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Is that the opposite of a Communist Sandbox? Remember the old joke: "What do you get if you bring communism to the Sahara Desert? Well, at first, nothing. Then, after 10 years, you get a shortage of sand."
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
DVD-quality digital broadcasts, and VOIP-like service (?)
sounds interesting to me.
For only another $15 a month you could pick up a new computer from Sham Shui Po, they have AMD Semprons 2200's and Intel Celeron 1.8 Ghz computers for $1800. But you'll be lucky to find good quality cat 5, before searching for cat 5e or cat 6.
Hopefully with this bandwidth they will be able to launch HDTV service, its quite sad seeing all the big plasma and LCD TV's in stores like Fortress and broadway but only a regular TV signal.
In Japan, you can get 100mps fiber for about $55 a month. That's not nearly as fast, but it's quick enought for anything you might need and lots cheaper.
Still too expensive?, try 40 mps ADSL for about $20 a month...
Now just everyone pause and think. What would people do with these 1gbit streams if there was no (illegal) downloadable content?
Sure legal content (without DRM) is also an option but since one is not available right now, we have to rely on piracy to increase the demand for bandwidth.
and here i am, in the UK, stuck on 512k atm, with 2mb being the fastest affordable choice i can see :(.
1 gigabit tho. Thats an obscene amount of bandwith - not even bittorrent could consume that much.... surely
Where did you get 100mbit broadband? University network? I didn't think it was commercially available.
With peer-to-peer, the more popular a download is, the faster it can be downloaded. The limit is the speed of the internet connections of those trading file pieces. There is no central bottleneck. With a few high speed connections uploading, everyone's downloads will be faster.
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This kind of solution only really works in town blocks where cat5 cabling is a realistic option.
While technically it's often possible to do gigabit ethernet with CAT5, the article actually mentions that the cable drops are CAT5e.
Would the **AA allow such a thing in the USA? jes, they DO control tech to a certin extent - and it is my belefe that they and others like them are the reason home users cant get any real upload streams here, 128 or 256 if you are lucky is the tops here...and running _any_ server is a no-no - hummmm...I wonder why?
http://www.dmeurope.com/default.asp?ArticleID=5343
1GB private broadband service launched in Sweden
12/01/2005 by Rémi Gamba
The Swedish region of Skåne now has the world`s fastest private internet service. Users in Skåne can now receive a 1GB wideband connection for 95 per month, from internet service provider Labs2.
The service employs a combination of optical fibres and Ethernet. Labs2 claims to be the first in the world to bring a Gigabit connection to private users.
In addition to the monthly fee, users also have to pay an installation charge of 166 and a sign up to a binding subscription of six months.
Labs2 is offering the new fast connection through its subsidiary, Bredband2.
Yes, that is all great and well, but do they allow you to run servers on these lines?
Isn't Softbank Corp. and Yahoo Japan offering a gigabit per second for ¥4,200 ? This is about $40
No matter where you go , there you are.
not so, I can get DSL with 3mbit down, 768kbit up ... 3-6x the speeds you quote, and this is in York PA ... hardly a tech hotspot. (there aren't even really any tech jobs unless you want to drive an hour to baltimore).
I pay $84/month for 128k here in Ecuador. I don't even want to hear this! /me rips out hair
well, they are actually doing what we call Fiber to the home (as opposed to fiber to the building "FTTB").
only the last few meters (as opposed to last mile) is Cat5(e).
who says we'll even be using as much cable in 5-10 years with all the advances in wireless technologies.
Thanks for the insight. The Capitalist version of it probably ends with "...and then you find you can't do anything because someone has patented sand dunes."
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If I had to pick five words to describe the cell market in the US, they would be "horrible form of market failure." This is because 1) the only decisive factor for choosing a cell provider for most people is coverage and reception, 2) starting a new network with competitive coverage is so expensive it's essentially impossible.
The upshot is, the three or four national competitors who can afford to stay in the game compete on coverage, and cooperate on shafting their customers in every way possible. A prime example is phones -- you have to buy a phone with that provider's brand, even though all the phones could work with all the providers, because there's no market force pushing the providers to open it up.
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1) Software, music, and game piracy
2) The human female anatomy
3) Human sexual intercourse
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Obviously, they are not going to get full Internet access at anywhere near 1Gbps rates. The ISP's access to the Internet is most likely below 1Gbps.
But, in dense metropolitan areas (Hong Kong is a best case scenario for this) there are interesting possibilities for file sharing and other community services. File shares among friends and family become as good as local disk.
If your 1Gbps zone is the street you live on, it's of more limited usefulness. But, if it's the whole city, this would kick butt.
If i already have expensive infrastructure in place which delivers 1MBPs, i will think very long and hard about upgrading to 100MBPs. How many users will I gain? 1MBPs might just be good enough. I made an investment in this old infrastructure and the longer i can keep it running, the better my return.
If, on the other hand, I have no infrastructure, then I can put in the latest technology for the exact same price an older tech would cost me, or just a little bit more. In this case, it's more economical to put in the faster solution.
Not that difficult, eh?
Imagine being able to pull down full DVD's in a few minutes.
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High Definition Video is a max of 19.8 Mbits/s. If you had a good enough storage system you could stream 50 high definition videos at the same time with a symmetric 1Gb/s connection.
The terms cap the bandwidth to foreign countries which could have strange effects on the spread of culture as the mainstream media loses its grip on the production of video content. Maybe the best role for government in the bandwidth business would be the subsidization of ISP upstream bandwidth costs to foreign countries, it'd be good for trade defecits. Maybe the popularity of American culture in the rest of the world has as much to do with its availibility (satellite tv) as aestheitics.
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Am I the only one who thought at first that it said "16bps Broadband Service...?"
The future of video distribution will be based on decentralized, P2P distribution technologies. Due to tit-for-tat, these tend to be as fast as the average UL speed of those in a swarm. Thus, having faster UL speeds is the real concern here. It doesn't hurt to have a 1024Mb/s DL connection, but if UL is still 256Kb/s, then it's all still moot. On the other hand, if the 1024Mb/s can be used as UL bandwidth, then we're all set for 512Mb/s each way.
Also, if we're trying to do video in real time, 512Mb/s can cram a pretty decent AV stream in such a bitrate.
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I am too lazy to look up a link, but news of 1 Gigbit service through coax cable (ie cable modem) service is already being rolled out somewhere in Tokyo or Yokohama, Japan. Cisco Systems is the network hardware vendor.
The author of the article must have been stiffing something when he said that 1 Gb serivce only works in areas that have Cat5 cable between buildings - how about Cat5e or Cat6. Fiber?? (FiOS), Cable?? MetroEthernet??
Yes, the USA has fallen behind and getting more so. We just have a capitalist system and a government that does not push the issue and make it happen. Also, we are a pretty big country so comparisons between us and South Korea are not much of an apples to apples comparison. A better comparison might be France who was far behind the US and in only 2 years left us in the dust.
Just my 2 cents.
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