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Mac OS X Tiger Accidentally Shipped Early
boarder8925 writes "Engadget reports: 'In many places around the world, Mac fans and Apple distributors received a shipment they weren't quite expecting: Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger arrived at the door a full eight days ahead of schedule for some lucky folks who pre-ordered. Vendors PCMall/MacMall and ClubMac gave pre-order customers a treat by unleashing the OS ahead of schedule, quickly followed up by a 'recall' of the copies from PCMall.'"
Feature 201: It's early !
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I just want to know who were the people that returned the copies, so I can laugh at them. somethign like that.
If you are located within 50 miles of Cupertino and listen very carefully (I actually had to turn off my computer to cut the fan noise), you can actually hear Steve Jobs yelling!
"...all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness..." yada yada
But Microsoft will ship Longhorn...oh...just a wee bit late, so on average...the world is OK
Torrent please
At least one other "reseller" has received legal threats, but apparently they think they are immune.
It turns out that ut's not an 8 day early copy of OS X, it's a 1 year 8 day early copy of Longhorn.
Beep beep.
What a shame, with all that money and R&D and little old Apple beat MS to the punchline. Now Windows is the last desktop OS that is 64 bit...
Our 64 bit Windows OS Just Works, barely
Makes me want to cry...
Your Average Joe
I used to work at a video game retailing store, and we used to get shipments of products in well before their offical release date. They would be in plain brown unmarked boxes that would have red tape on them with the offical release date on it. Anyone who even openned the boxes early could be fired. We had Halo 2 the day before the release, and believe me, it would have been nice to start calling up the preorder people and telling them to come get it.
Anyways, my point is, doesn't Apple (or other software companies,) have a similar policy regarding the release of their product and preorders? If not, perhaps they should.
Three days old is now "old news"? I'm not sure you understand how Slashdot works. The editors don't break stories, they repost stories and the users comment on it.
Oh, and Steve wears New Balance shoes.
Maybe Microsoft could have something that closely resembles this feature in Longhorn =)
So.. this must be how my girlfriend feels when I.. uh.. arrive ahead of schedule. :|
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Anyway, I installed it already, and oh man, it is everything I thought it was going to be. Actually, those ten improvements (Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator, etc.) that everyone's talking about are all pretty cool, but the OS really is significantly faster and smoother than 10.3.x. And a lot cool stuff is changed under the surface. Check the man page for cp, etc., and you'll see what I mean.
I have to say, I really am impressed with this release. Every previous upgrade has been a big surprise and a big improvement, and I was skeptical that Tiger would be anything to jump up and down over, but I really have to say that I've been pleasantly surprised with this one.
And no, I'm not sending it back!
No /. reader would turn their computer off longer than it takes to reboot.
...where I work. We get prerelease CDs from Apple regularly and we send back bug reports regarding their JVM. We always make sure to destroy the CDs by the proper dates. I suppose we should be more careful with them to avoid turning into a Slashdot story like this one.
Most of the stupid JVM bugs specific to OSX that we run into aren't reproducible on the machine running Tiger. Java seems to be really improved in this release.
Does anyone know if computers order from apple before next firday come with 10.4 installed?
or does one have to wait to the release date for new macs do have 10.4?
Mikey
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What's the point of release dates anyhow?
With digital distribution now finally catching on, it would be in the best interest of most companies to release when it's done.. I'd much prefer to download a (legal) burnable disc image than have to wait for a box to show up.
IMHO much piracy is due to impatient souls who simply can't wait for the release. Music is a great exmaple of this. I say when it goes gold, release it. Many of these downloaders would probably pay for it.
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while they sue themselves for leaking Tiger? Sunny must be pissed as hell right now.
You know, it's just amazing to see you and everybody else fall for the old accidental "leak" trick.
This "leak", just like that one is a classic PR trick to get press time. It works, as you can see. Did you even wonder why the "leaks" came all boxed-up (just like the final version) to select individual and companies able to make noise about it?
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Cornell's law site backs him up; unordered merchandise belongs to the recipient. (Interestingly, I had that link handy because one of the free stuff sites accidentally sent me two iPod shuffles instead of one, and I wanted to know my legal status with regard to the second one.)
Damn straight. They repost stories from CNet, New York Times, Blogs and uhh... sometimes SlashDot itself.
Sorry. Sometimes you have to reach for the low hanging fruit...
Sunny
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A feature that Microsoft can't copy!
OSX Tiger Came Prematurely
See, that's what I like about Longhorn...He's Mr. Slow-n-Easy...Just like Barry White.
GET FREE APPLE STUFF!
Well as the "moore library issue" and "your information wants to be free" stories show. There's a large number who don't think like that. Todays motto is "what's in it for me?". That's until the consequences of such come home to roost. Then it's "all your fault for me being a bad person." Multiply this with each succeeding generation, and you see were societies heading.
The new edition will be much snappier.
If Apple really wanted to cut piracy on Tiger, they would include a sticker on the disc that says "Don't steal Tiger."
um no.
:p.
/Users/seunghun/Pictures/iPhoto/something but it cannot be resolved because it's been mounted on /Volume/iMac. So the whole path is /Volume/iMac/Users/seunghun/Pictures/iPhoto/someth ing. So the symlink is broken when mounted under other computer. But you should still be able to back it up. CpMac fails in this situation.
CpMac and cp are totally different. try man CpMac... two options. -r and -p... and the behaviors when copying directories are different between cp and CpMac also. (subtlely but importantly.)
CpMac is a very simplistic program existing just because of the HFS+ quirks. It's not very sophisticated while cp (from freeBSD source tree) is full featured and has a pedigree
Like i passingly mentioned in my previous post, CpMac fails when copying broken symlinks.
try this:
ln -s nonexistant_file link
this works:
cp -Rp link copy
this does not
CpMac -r -p link copy
this was an issue when I was trying to back up my MacOSX partition. There is a symlink to
That's part of it, but you really want to know the real reason? Swapping CDs sucks. Seriously. That's the real reason we put Tiger on a DVD.
Here's the one and only thing you need to know to understand Apple: Our goal is to make using your Mac a pleasant experience. Anything that takes away from that is our enemy. That's why we've historically even had an iffy relationship with some of our biggest software vendors. When Word 6 came out, I'm told that the level of anger around campus almost reached the point of violence. (That was before my time here.)
Bottom line: When you're installing your new OS, having to swap CDs sucks. So we're shipping DVDs. Anybody who doesn't have a DVD drive -- which is something like three out of four Mac owners, believe it or not -- can get CDs from their local Apple store or from the Web site.
(And don't think we didn't have long and heated conversations about whether it sucks more to have to swap CDs or to have to mail-order CDs. That one went back and forth a lot.)
extracting Longhorn as we speak
<wrmachine> lame
<psaux> your mom
<wrmachine> see, i don't install beta anything unless i'm beta testing a game
<wrmachine> nor do i install software i don't intend to use
<psaux> I'm installing it in Virtual PC
<psaux> I want to see what's done right and what's done wrong, so that I can give the verbal smackdown to people who are all bitching about things they don't know what they're talking about
<wrmachine> ya i figured it'd be on a virtual pc, but still
<wrmachine> laaaame
<wrmachine> my mom made banana bread
<psaux> does your mom want to help me test my longhorn?
<psaux> it's stable and fast, and it can stay up for months without a problem
<wrmachine> i bet it'll crash as soon as i boot it
Well, let's go back some years to find swedish inventor Håkan Lans creating PC color graphics, a useable computer pointing device, safe flight control (through something resembling "P2P GPS") - who has tried to hinder his creativity? US government agencies and major US corps.
Let's move on and find Ericsson software engineers creating AXE telephone switches, Bluetooth etc. Keep up, and we find Lavasofts Ad-Aware helping out most n00bs from getting the most out of skunkware. Pointsec, a swedish company producing the industry top class encryption sw (note: biggest customer is teh US military!). Yes, KaZaA and Skype are also created by swedes, ironic - isn't it!
Oh, did you know who actually made most of super-US bimbo Britney Spears smash hits? A swede called Max Martin. Go figure!
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I saw that very same sticker at the Zoo the other day. I don't know why they even bother, people are gonna do it anyway!
% mkdir
% ls -dF
I got a Mac at work a few weeks ago, a Powerbook G4 or something, probably about one year old.
I call troll.
If you have a one year old PB G4,or a PowerBook G4 or at all, it says so on the computer. Under the screen. In center. You would be blind not to see it, deliberate troll or a retard to call it "a Powerbook G4 or something" when it clearly says "PowerBook G4" on the computer.
No, he's basically right. I mean, if you ignore the fact that he seems not to have actually read my comment. There are forty million Macs out there in active use, according to our market-research guys. Something like three out of four of those sold without DVD-reading drives in them.
Now, something like three out of four OF THOSE can't even run Tiger anyway. It's not like somebody's going to go running Tiger on a Power Mac 9600. So it's not like we're saying that three out of four Tiger buyers will have to do the media exchange thing. Corporate tells us that they estimate it'll be closer to one in twenty. Which is fine.
But it all boils down to this: We put Tiger on a DVD instead of four CDs because we wanted to. That's all there is to it.
--Rick "If it isn't broken, take it apart and find out why."
Because for something like 19 out of 20 buyers, those CDs would have been a complete waste.
We just got criticized, unjustly, in the press by an environmental group because we don't pay to recycle our customers' computers. Imagine the field day they would have had if we'd shipped out 50 million unneeded CDs.
Basically, yeah. The reason people buy things rather than making them themselves is so they can trade money for convenience. Here at Apple, we've established a reputation -- mostly, but not entirely, deserved -- for making the right decisions. If you buy an Apple product, be it a thing or a piece of software, you can be pretty darned confident that it will have been done right.
According to last quarter's financials, we're doing pretty well in the marketplace. Our year-over-year sales went up by something like 40%.
You draw your own conclusions.
Oh yes they are! If you upgrade the processor to a G3 or better, you can use XPostFacto you can run OS X on ancient powermacs. You can even run Jaguar on a fast PPC 604 with this terrific patch!
I plan to buy a copy of Tiger and load it onto my hot-rodded Frankenmac 7600 just as soon as it's practical.
-- "At Microsoft, quality is job 1.1" -- PC Magazine, Nov. 1994