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Opera CEO Prepares to Swim across the Atlantic

rRogta writes "Previously reported on slashdot here, Opera CEO boldly promises to swim across the Atlantic should the new Opera browser be downloaded a million times in the first four days after it's release. Well, they reached their goal and in this press release it says he's now preparing for the long swim."

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  1. How the heck? by beatdown · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not sure it is possible to pull this off. Isn't the north Atlantic cold at this time of year?

    1. Re:How the heck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A good semi-dry suit would do it. Just a wet suit with decreased water flow through it, for colder water. The problem is that he's gonna need a life-jacket too, because there's no way he's swimming that much.

    2. Re:How the heck? by Freexe · · Score: 5, Funny
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    3. Re:How the heck? by mikael · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not sure it is possible to pull this off. Isn't the north Atlantic cold at this time of year?

      From this surface temperature map it would appear that if he swam at a latitude of 30 degrees North, the temperature is around 70 Fahrenheit or 21 Centigrade all the way to Spain. From Spain to South America it's even warmer (85 Fahrenheit/28 Centigrade). Up beside Norway, it's only 55 Fahreheit (12 Centigrade), so he would probably need a survival suit.

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    4. Re:How the heck? by Trix606 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is simple, just use a yacht with a built-in swimming pool. Swim laps all the way from Norway to the U.S.

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    5. Re:How the heck? by SithGod · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually that would be way too warm to swim in. I swam in high school and while you hate to get in a cold pool, within about 5 minutes being in a warm pool is much worse. Probably the best temperature he could hope for would be around 60 Farenheit

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    6. Re:How the heck? by nelsonal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're right for competitive swimming, but even the long endurance runs take about an hour or so. If you are swimming long distances, you have to be in warmer water to ensure that you don't lose heat too rapidly over the course of the next several weeks.

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    7. Re:How the heck? by Nutty_Irishman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There used to be a navy dive tank at the subbase in Groton, CT that they would train on. I can't remember the exact conditions, but they used to keep the tank at about 92 degrees F for training purposes. After around 4 hours or so of training in the tank, they had to take a break to warm up. Water syphons heat away from the body much faster than air does-- I'm not sure there's any spot where he could swim across at where he wouldn't need some kind of wetsuit for.

  2. What about sales? by colmore · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given Opera's business model, shouldn't he have tied this stunt to sales rather than downloads?

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    1. Re:What about sales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Given Opera's business model, shouldn't he have tied this stunt to sales rather than downloads?

      Yes, he should have offered to have the sales director forced to swim across the Atlantic, rather than himself.

    2. Re:What about sales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As ad revenue is part of their business model, I don't see why.

    3. Re:What about sales? by MoonFog · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You realise this was said during an internal meeting and was released by the Opera people more or less without his concent. I suspect they did it as a joke rather than a publicity stunt even though it has turned into something like that now.

    4. Re:What about sales? by physicsphairy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Given Opera's business model, shouldn't he have tied this stunt to sales rather than downloads?

      In a word, no. That would make a horrible salespitch. I'm not going to fork over money for a product I would not otherwise buy just to vote yes to the swim!

      On the other hand, a download is not big deal. And once I download the product, I might be like "Hey! Cool!" and decide to buy it. Even if not, at least the product is getting some good exposure.

      Deriving sales from stunts like this is rarely straight forward.

  3. don't you think.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this is one of the big problems with 'good' software. we always try to promise about 500000% more then we can deliver.

  4. Two Words of Advice by Deinhard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Life Jacket

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    1. Re:Two Words of Advice by MacJedi · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the north atlantic, life jackets just make your corpse float.

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    2. Re:Two Words of Advice by jfengel · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, "wet suit". A life jacket floats your face up and drags your legs, which means a lot of resistance to swimming. You'll get exhausted before swimming a mile in a life jacket.

      Yes, IIADS (I Am A Distance Swimmer).

    3. Re:Two Words of Advice by Durindana · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, IIADS (I Am A Distance Swimmer).


      No, YAABA (You Are A Bad Acronymizer)
    4. Re:Two Words of Advice by jfengel · · Score: 4, Funny

      IAS

      (I Sure Am).

  5. download it by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well...despite of being closed software, I must admited Opera knows how to support linux - if you go to their download page they have packages for the main distros, ej: they've separated packages for debain woody, sarge and sid, different versions of fedora, etc...in fact I'm a a debian user (in case you haven't noticed) and I've the following line in my sources.list:

    deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free

    1. Re:download it by Snarl · · Score: 3, Informative

      It doesn't hurt the linux support that Opera and Trolltech have offices in the same building in Oslo, Norway either.

      http://www.opera.com/company/
      http://www.trolltech.com/contact/index.html

  6. Hats off by janek78 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, you got to admire that man. I suppose he's not going to do it in one run, the journey seems quite long. Very nice map, though. :)

    I guess he could also get a Krusty burger at one of those abandoned shore oil platforms :)

  7. how he'll pull this off by keithmoore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    charter an aircraft big enough to put a large water tank inside, and swim in the tank while the aircraft is flying to Iceland and thence to North America.

    nice PR stunt!

    1. Re:how he'll pull this off by dfn5 · · Score: 4, Funny
      charter an aircraft big enough to put a large water tank inside, and swim in the tank while the aircraft is flying to Iceland and thence to North America.

      I would hardly consider a hot tub with 3 hot flight attendents "swimming". But maybe that's how he got the idea past the wife.

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  8. At the same time, at Microsoft HQ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer both agreed to cross the United States territory up to Washington D.C. by crawling like two salamanders should the number of bugs in the soon-to-be released version 7 of the (in)famous Internet Explorer reaches 2000 in the first 2 hours of its release.

  9. I call shenanigans! by REggert · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA:

    Jon is assisted by Opera's PR manager who will be rowing alongside the adventurous CEO in the company inflatable raft on the trip across the Atlantic as an act of guilt after making the CEO's statement public. The fearless crew is currently on its way to an undisclosed location in the Oslo fjord to begin the long journey toward America in the true spirit of the Vikings before them.

    The author busted his cheek with his tongue, I think.

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  10. How He'll Do It by Anyletter · · Score: 5, Informative

    I figure he's going to swim from the Norwegian Embassy in Iceland, go to his mum's house, then swim to the US Embassy. Like this: http://people.opera.com/nicolasm/opera_ch05.svgz

    1. Re:How He'll Do It by k98sven · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why on earth would you serve a perfectly standard Inkscape SVG that you had then gzipped as image/svg+xml? Isn't that misleading?

      No it's not. Read the spec , and you'll find that this is completely correct.

      The MIME type for SVG is "image/svg+xml" (always). And the extension for gzip compressed SVG files is ".svgz". And gzip is the only compression type which the spec allows for.

  11. Good for him... by Pyroskankic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, now that this mission has been accomplished... *Switches back to Firefox when no one is looking*

  12. Ummm... by chrisgeleven · · Score: 5, Informative

    Somehow I don't think he will be able to complete it:

    http://www.didyouknow.cd/aroundtheworld/swimming .h tm


    Possibly the greatest triumph of endurance is Benoit Lecomte swimming across the Atlantic ocean.

    Lecomte, born 1967, immigrated from France to Austin, Texas, at age 23. When his father died of colon cancer in 1992, it spurred him to do something extraordinary to raise awareness of and money for cancer research. With the help of Edward Coyle, director of UT Austin's Human Performance Lab, and dieticians, Lecomte trained to build his endurance, swimming and cycling 3 to 5 hours a day, six days a week for two years. On 16 July 1998 he set out from Cape Cod with 8 wet suits, a snorkel and some flippers into turning weather.

    Navigated through the 40th and 50th latitude by two French sailors on a 12m (40 foot) sailboat and protected by an electronic force field, Lecomte swam 6 to 8 hours a day at two-hour intervals. He mainly used the crawl stroke, switching occasionally to a mono fin and using an undulating dolphin kick to carry him over the 5 600km (3 736 nautical miles) of relentless waves. 72 days later, on 28 September, he swam ashore exhausted but heroic at Quiberon, France.

    1. Re:Ummm... by BaudKarma · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're underestimating the power of postitive thought! All those million people who downloaded Opera are behind this effor 1000 per cent! In fact, I'm downloading Opera again, just to show my support! I predict he'll make the swim in record time, just due to the power of positive thought!!!

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    2. Re:Ummm... by ad0gg · · Score: 3, Funny
      I'm guessing its some sort of boat-based shark repellent.

      2. Where can I get one?

      Don't even bother. It doesn't stop laser beams. Worthless.

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  13. Re:Isn't this lots and lots of miles? by mav[LAG] · · Score: 5, Funny

    Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

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  14. Murderers by darkmayo · · Score: 5, Funny

    You cold hearted bastards have just sent this man to his death.. hope your happy.

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    1. Re:Murderers by bluGill · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, don't blame me, I use konqueror.

  15. A Bet for all of you... by waldoiverson · · Score: 3, Funny

    if the ISS lands on him as he swims, I will give you all a Taco Bell taco.

  16. Re:Seems fishy to me by Freexe · · Score: 3, Informative
    Techinacally the embassy in Iceland isn;t that far away from a lake which it't self isn;t that far away from the American embassy.

    Sometimes you have to think outside the box!http://people.opera.com/nicolasm/opera_ch05.sv gz

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  17. RTFA! Its a joke! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Read the press release!
    Jeez. It's a joke.
    He's not really going to do it; he's figuring out a way to honorably get out of it.

    1. Re:RTFA! Its a joke! by AviLazar · · Score: 4, Informative

      He already has:

      I blatantly admit that my promise was based more on joy and enthusiasm than my swimming abilities and physical health, I will do my very best to keep it

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  18. Re:Isn't this lots and lots of miles? by mav[LAG] · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wait till I get going!

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  19. Re:Tragedy in the making by digidave · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "It could take days, or weeks"

    Or months. Have you any idea how big the Atlantic Ocean is?

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  20. Re:I hope he has thermal underwear... by Presidential · · Score: 3, Informative
    ...and quite possibly anti-shark spray, although I don't think that actually exists.


    Hella lotta reading, but essentially it does exist.

    http://www.nbb.cornell.edu/neurobio/Sisneros/Sisne ros%20and%20Nelson%202001.pdf
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  21. Headline should read by Microsift · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Browser company seeks new CEO"

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  22. Re:Two (other) Words of Advice by mobiGeek · · Score: 3, Funny
    Don't doit.

    ( or maybe "dont doit" for those nerds who will attempt to point out that don't is not a single word... )

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  23. Re:Tragedy in the making by mickyflynn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Beowulf swam the North Sea!! In chainmail! fighting sea monsters with a sword!

    this can't be all that more difficult

  24. Nice... by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Princess Bride quotes with a Monty Python sig. That's the kind of humor that I needed on a dreary, Monday morning. :)

    But you would have known that I would have responded to your post, so I clearly cannot mod the comment in front of me.

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    1. Re:Nice... by mav[LAG] · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're just stalling now...

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    2. Re:Nice... by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 3, Funny

      You'd like to think that, wouldn't you?!

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  25. Re:Isn't this lots and lots of miles? by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not at all.

    Those stories about explorers dying while crossing the Atlantic are all ploys to keep real-estate values high in Conneticut. If people found out that they could commute to Manhattan faster from France than from New Jersey, the friends of countless politicians would lose their shirts in the market collapse.

  26. They're planning on a loooong trip by hugesmile · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From TFA:

    The next update on the remarkable and heroic journey will be available here on Tuesday, April 25, at 10:00 am CET (04:00 am EST).

    Tuesday April 25 is a year from today!

  27. Prediction by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There'll be a boat next to him. Around the 5th km, he'll give up, and say: "Well, at least I tried". Then he'll become an Icon of "you never know until you try", and a whole marketing campaign will rise from this.

  28. Re:Tragedy in the making by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's 3000 miles wide from Gibraltar to Norfolk, Virginia.

    If he can swim 2 miles per hour for 12 hours every 24 hours (12 hours per day), it'd take him 125 days.

    Long-distance Swimmer Tammy Van Wisse holds the World Record (fastest person) to swim 1515 mile length of the Murray River in Australia. It took from 5 November 2000 - 18 February 2001: 106 days, and she's a professional, and it was a river, not a cold and turbulent ocean.

  29. Re:Two (other) Words of Advice by Deinhard · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't understand this post. A "doit" is a small Dutch coin (about a half farthing).

    Is this a reference to trying to make money off the publicity?

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  30. Bitter Ex-Wife by spineboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    A little known fact is that his bitter ex-wife was personally responsible for downloading over 300,000 copies of the program, stating " I hope he frezzes his nubbins off!"

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  31. Re:Why cant some other CEOs try it by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd rather see the Director for IE development swim to the bottom of the atlantic.

  32. Re:Tragedy in the making by stiggle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But the North American and European plates meet at Iceland (his homeland).
    There is a lake in the middle of the rift valley (the shores of which the original Icelandic Parliament used to meet on) http://www.randburg.com/is/thingvellir.html

    He could have just pulled a fast one and swam across the lake :-)

  33. My Resume by eander315 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Dear Opera,

    After viewing the pictures on your website, I would like to apply for the newly opened positions of CEO and PR Manager at your company. I feel I have the necessary qualifications, such as "not-drowned" and "not-reported-lost-in-the-northern-Atlantic".

    Thank you for your time and consideration.

  34. Re:Tragedy in the making by AntiGenX · · Score: 5, Funny
    Beowulf swam the North Sea!! In chainmail! fighting sea monsters with a sword!

    After swimming in that cold water, I would hate to see the size of his cluster.

  35. Re:wetsuits drysuits by step · · Score: 3, Informative
    channel attempts are very short compared to a transatlantic swim. it's over in a few hours, whereas you're looking at several weeks in this case.
    things to keep in mind:
    • traditional wetsuits, and especially drysuits are made for diving, not swimming. they are too stiff to swim for more than a few minutes (read: extra effort going nowhere) and cause abrasions / chafing in lots of places (neck and shoulders especially). there are suits made especially for swimming (try Quintana Roo or Ironman Wetsuits), but von Tetzchner is wearing a diving suit.
    • you can't stock enough supplies for two people in a rubber inflatable.
    • sharks. you'd probably want to swim in a shark cage.
    • currents. unless you were totally insane, you'd rather swim with the currents than against them.
    by the way, here's a guy who actually did it.
  36. Re:not sure about that by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Informative

    for some reason being in water saps the heat out of you much more quickly than air will.

    That's part of one of the reasons, but there are others a bit more important:

    The most important reason is the huge heat capacity of water: you can shove a little bit of heat into a given mass of air, and it'll warm up a huge amount, very quickly, to the point that it's often very very near the temperature of whatever it's in contact with (and no more heat, on average, will flow into it once it's at the same temperature as the heretofore warmer thing). However, if you do the same thing with the same mass of water, the water will just keep sucking more and more heat from whatever is warmer than it, as it will take much longer to heat up (generally).

    The density argument is *somewhat* applicable, because it means that a given patch of skin will be in contact with a lot more water than it will with air, and so there's better thermal conductivity away from that patch of skin. However, that's the only thing I can see which would connect density to this issue -- the specific heat capacity of gold (at 19.3 times as dense as water) is only about 3% of that of water. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_heat_capacit y

  37. Re:not sure about that by delta_avi_delta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll give you a clue - you can stick your hand into an oven at 100 degrees very safely, but you can't stick your hand into a pot of boiling water :)

  38. Re:HOLY CRAP by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 4, Funny

    given the parent of this thread, shouldn't that read:
    "HOLY CARP"

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  39. 60 degrees can kill you pretty quickly by bradleyland · · Score: 4, Informative

    For short time periods 60 degree water is fine, but when swimming trans-atlantic, you want something a bit warmer.

    Temperature Fahrenheit | Exhaustion/Unconscious | Expected Survival

    32.5 | <15 min. | 10 to 45 min.
    32.5 - 40 | 15 - 30 min. | 39 to 90 min.
    40 - 50 | 30 - 60 min. | 1 to 3 Hours
    50 - 60 | 1 - 2 Hours | 1 to 6 Hours
    60 -70 | 2 - 7 Hours | 2 to 40 Hours
    70 -80 | 3 - 12 Hours | 3 to Indefinitely
    Over 80 | Indefinitely | Indefinitely

    From: http://www.walrus.com/~belov/hypothermia.html

    1. Re:60 degrees can kill you pretty quickly by CatMan79 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You forgot:

      80-95 | Indefinitely | Indefinitely
      95-105 | 2-7 Hours | 2-10 Hours
      ...
      400-410 | 5-10 sec. | 30 to 60 sec.
      etc.

  40. Re:not sure about that by snorklewacker · · Score: 4, Funny

    most spas are 100+ degrees. i think you got mixed up between centigrade and fahrenheit... water boils at 212F/i

    Even so -- I regularly stick my hand into a 450 degree oven when things need moving around in there. It ain't comfy, but I can take 20 seconds of it. I'll assume for the sake of argument that the outside air has cooled things down to a balmy 350 degrees (it hasnt, but my point will still be made)

    Now stick your hand into water boiling at a "mere" 212 degrees for just 10 seconds. You've just learned a painful lesson about heat transfer.

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