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Opera CEO Prepares to Swim across the Atlantic

rRogta writes "Previously reported on slashdot here, Opera CEO boldly promises to swim across the Atlantic should the new Opera browser be downloaded a million times in the first four days after it's release. Well, they reached their goal and in this press release it says he's now preparing for the long swim."

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  1. How the heck? by beatdown · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not sure it is possible to pull this off. Isn't the north Atlantic cold at this time of year?

    1. Re:How the heck? by Freexe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you will need opera to see this one, but it doesn;'t look too hard to pull off

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    2. Re:How the heck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A good semi-dry suit would do it. Just a wet suit with decreased water flow through it, for colder water. The problem is that he's gonna need a life-jacket too, because there's no way he's swimming that much.

    3. Re:How the heck? by Freexe · · Score: 5, Funny
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    4. Re:How the heck? by mikael · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not sure it is possible to pull this off. Isn't the north Atlantic cold at this time of year?

      From this surface temperature map it would appear that if he swam at a latitude of 30 degrees North, the temperature is around 70 Fahrenheit or 21 Centigrade all the way to Spain. From Spain to South America it's even warmer (85 Fahrenheit/28 Centigrade). Up beside Norway, it's only 55 Fahreheit (12 Centigrade), so he would probably need a survival suit.

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    5. Re:How the heck? by Trix606 · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is simple, just use a yacht with a built-in swimming pool. Swim laps all the way from Norway to the U.S.

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    6. Re:How the heck? by SithGod · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually that would be way too warm to swim in. I swam in high school and while you hate to get in a cold pool, within about 5 minutes being in a warm pool is much worse. Probably the best temperature he could hope for would be around 60 Farenheit

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    7. Re:How the heck? by nelsonal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're right for competitive swimming, but even the long endurance runs take about an hour or so. If you are swimming long distances, you have to be in warmer water to ensure that you don't lose heat too rapidly over the course of the next several weeks.

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    8. Re:How the heck? by morticus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I surf during all weather condtions with just a 4mm fullsuit. It utilizes fluid sealed seams, blind-stiching and blind-zipper to limit flushing. Honestly, 55F with a decent wetsuit is actually quite comfortable, you don't overheat during excessive paddling. When it drops lower, the booties, gloves and sometimes 2nd layer come in.

    9. Re:How the heck? by ckaminski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The North Atlantic is ALWAYS cold.

    10. Re:How the heck? by Nutty_Irishman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There used to be a navy dive tank at the subbase in Groton, CT that they would train on. I can't remember the exact conditions, but they used to keep the tank at about 92 degrees F for training purposes. After around 4 hours or so of training in the tank, they had to take a break to warm up. Water syphons heat away from the body much faster than air does-- I'm not sure there's any spot where he could swim across at where he wouldn't need some kind of wetsuit for.

  2. What about sales? by colmore · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given Opera's business model, shouldn't he have tied this stunt to sales rather than downloads?

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    1. Re:What about sales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Given Opera's business model, shouldn't he have tied this stunt to sales rather than downloads?

      Yes, he should have offered to have the sales director forced to swim across the Atlantic, rather than himself.

    2. Re:What about sales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As ad revenue is part of their business model, I don't see why.

    3. Re:What about sales? by MoonFog · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You realise this was said during an internal meeting and was released by the Opera people more or less without his concent. I suspect they did it as a joke rather than a publicity stunt even though it has turned into something like that now.

    4. Re:What about sales? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I would say this is a marketing decision to expose the Opera branding and increase product awareness in the marketplace.

      In the last 30-40 years everything has become about the "brand" and how many people are aware of it.

      Sales follow suit through natural course of action.

      -SJ53
      I think Opera is just trying to make sure Firefox doesn't chew away at it's marketspace as an IE alternative regardless of the fact that the full version of Firefox is free and Opera is not.

    5. Re:What about sales? by kpwoodr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Google did something similar to this when Chad rode his bike across the country, and look how well that worked out for them...

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    6. Re:What about sales? by physicsphairy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Given Opera's business model, shouldn't he have tied this stunt to sales rather than downloads?

      In a word, no. That would make a horrible salespitch. I'm not going to fork over money for a product I would not otherwise buy just to vote yes to the swim!

      On the other hand, a download is not big deal. And once I download the product, I might be like "Hey! Cool!" and decide to buy it. Even if not, at least the product is getting some good exposure.

      Deriving sales from stunts like this is rarely straight forward.

    7. Re:What about sales? by lahvak · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you missed part of the press release. It said:

      If we reach one million downloads, I will swim across the Atlantic. If we do NOT reach one million sales, the sales director will swim across the Atlantic.

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    8. Re:What about sales? by MoonFog · · Score: 2, Informative

      A press release written by Eskil Sivertsen, he included von Tetzchner's statement as a joke. Don't know if you understand Norwegian, but here is more on the swimming trip. Sivertsen is actually rowing beside Jon.

    9. Re:What about sales? by middlemen · · Score: 2, Funny

      Who is sponsoring it? Coke or Pepsi or Marlboro ? Diet Coke(or Pepsi) ad: Swim across the Atlantic with 1 calorie of Diet Coke (or Pepsi)... Marlboro: Cigarette smoke can be used to call for help.

  3. don't you think.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this is one of the big problems with 'good' software. we always try to promise about 500000% more then we can deliver.

  4. Two Words of Advice by Deinhard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Life Jacket

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    1. Re:Two Words of Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Two more words: No Way.

      And two final words: Luxury Cruise.

    2. Re:Two Words of Advice by MacJedi · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the north atlantic, life jackets just make your corpse float.

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    3. Re:Two Words of Advice by jfengel · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, "wet suit". A life jacket floats your face up and drags your legs, which means a lot of resistance to swimming. You'll get exhausted before swimming a mile in a life jacket.

      Yes, IIADS (I Am A Distance Swimmer).

    4. Re:Two Words of Advice by Durindana · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, IIADS (I Am A Distance Swimmer).


      No, YAABA (You Are A Bad Acronymizer)
    5. Re:Two Words of Advice by jfengel · · Score: 4, Funny

      IAS

      (I Sure Am).

  5. Seems fishy to me by penguinoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    This seems incredibly fishy, as if it were a marketing ploy. At any rate, von Tetzchner will be smelling fishy very, very soon!

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    1. Re:Seems fishy to me by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Informative

      This seems incredibly fishy, as if it were a marketing ploy.

      Fishy? It is absolutely impossible that he could swim across the Atlantic, a stop in Iceland or not. This is so over the top that it's amazing that anyone doesn't get the joke. Quite apart from the cold, and the giant waves, there's the little problem of the massive distance.

      Obviously it's a marketing ploy (albeit all he managed to do was jack up their bandwidth bill - most of those Slashdot downloads went to /dev/null). He'll sit in a pool on a luxury yacht while it crosses the Atlantic or something.

    2. Re:Seems fishy to me by Freexe · · Score: 3, Informative
      Techinacally the embassy in Iceland isn;t that far away from a lake which it't self isn;t that far away from the American embassy.

      Sometimes you have to think outside the box!http://people.opera.com/nicolasm/opera_ch05.sv gz

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  6. download it by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well...despite of being closed software, I must admited Opera knows how to support linux - if you go to their download page they have packages for the main distros, ej: they've separated packages for debain woody, sarge and sid, different versions of fedora, etc...in fact I'm a a debian user (in case you haven't noticed) and I've the following line in my sources.list:

    deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free

    1. Re:download it by lintux · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not 100% sure, but I remember reading somewhere that Opera employs a Debian Developer. Might help a lot for sure. :-)

    2. Re:download it by Snarl · · Score: 3, Informative

      It doesn't hurt the linux support that Opera and Trolltech have offices in the same building in Oslo, Norway either.

      http://www.opera.com/company/
      http://www.trolltech.com/contact/index.html

  7. Hats off by janek78 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, you got to admire that man. I suppose he's not going to do it in one run, the journey seems quite long. Very nice map, though. :)

    I guess he could also get a Krusty burger at one of those abandoned shore oil platforms :)

  8. Tragedy in the making by Dancin_Santa · · Score: 2, Informative

    Swimmers with lots of experience have trouble crossing the relatively narrow English Channel. Attempting to swim from Europe to North America is out of the question, for the most part.

    Without even considering the difficulties posed by currents like the Gulf Stream, the water exposure will dehydrate him severely and the constant cold temperatures will push him to hypothermia.

    I wouldn't want to be him. At least unless I was swimming in a pool aboard a luxury liner.

    1. Re:Tragedy in the making by digidave · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "It could take days, or weeks"

      Or months. Have you any idea how big the Atlantic Ocean is?

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    2. Re:Tragedy in the making by mickyflynn · · Score: 5, Funny

      Beowulf swam the North Sea!! In chainmail! fighting sea monsters with a sword!

      this can't be all that more difficult

    3. Re:Tragedy in the making by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's 3000 miles wide from Gibraltar to Norfolk, Virginia.

      If he can swim 2 miles per hour for 12 hours every 24 hours (12 hours per day), it'd take him 125 days.

      Long-distance Swimmer Tammy Van Wisse holds the World Record (fastest person) to swim 1515 mile length of the Murray River in Australia. It took from 5 November 2000 - 18 February 2001: 106 days, and she's a professional, and it was a river, not a cold and turbulent ocean.

    4. Re:Tragedy in the making by double-oh+three · · Score: 2, Funny

      moderation: -0.5, took story entirely too seriously

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    5. Re:Tragedy in the making by stiggle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But the North American and European plates meet at Iceland (his homeland).
      There is a lake in the middle of the rift valley (the shores of which the original Icelandic Parliament used to meet on) http://www.randburg.com/is/thingvellir.html

      He could have just pulled a fast one and swam across the lake :-)

    6. Re:Tragedy in the making by AntiGenX · · Score: 5, Funny
      Beowulf swam the North Sea!! In chainmail! fighting sea monsters with a sword!

      After swimming in that cold water, I would hate to see the size of his cluster.

  9. how he'll pull this off by keithmoore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    charter an aircraft big enough to put a large water tank inside, and swim in the tank while the aircraft is flying to Iceland and thence to North America.

    nice PR stunt!

    1. Re:how he'll pull this off by dfn5 · · Score: 4, Funny
      charter an aircraft big enough to put a large water tank inside, and swim in the tank while the aircraft is flying to Iceland and thence to North America.

      I would hardly consider a hot tub with 3 hot flight attendents "swimming". But maybe that's how he got the idea past the wife.

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  10. At the same time, at Microsoft HQ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer both agreed to cross the United States territory up to Washington D.C. by crawling like two salamanders should the number of bugs in the soon-to-be released version 7 of the (in)famous Internet Explorer reaches 2000 in the first 2 hours of its release.

  11. I call shenanigans! by REggert · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA:

    Jon is assisted by Opera's PR manager who will be rowing alongside the adventurous CEO in the company inflatable raft on the trip across the Atlantic as an act of guilt after making the CEO's statement public. The fearless crew is currently on its way to an undisclosed location in the Oslo fjord to begin the long journey toward America in the true spirit of the Vikings before them.

    The author busted his cheek with his tongue, I think.

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  12. How He'll Do It by Anyletter · · Score: 5, Informative

    I figure he's going to swim from the Norwegian Embassy in Iceland, go to his mum's house, then swim to the US Embassy. Like this: http://people.opera.com/nicolasm/opera_ch05.svgz

    1. Re:How He'll Do It by k98sven · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why on earth would you serve a perfectly standard Inkscape SVG that you had then gzipped as image/svg+xml? Isn't that misleading?

      No it's not. Read the spec , and you'll find that this is completely correct.

      The MIME type for SVG is "image/svg+xml" (always). And the extension for gzip compressed SVG files is ".svgz". And gzip is the only compression type which the spec allows for.

    2. Re:How He'll Do It by greenhide · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry. I'm an ignorant fool. I just assumed that *all* that mod_deflate did was decompress a file prior to serving it. In which case, it wouldn't save bandwidth, would it?

      I see now that I got it bass-ackwards. Looks like mod_deflate *compresses* files then sends them on through. And "BrowserMatch" means that for browsers not happy with the compressed file, they can get it uncompressed.

      So, actually mod_deflate is exactly what you want: keeps it whole on the server, compresses it for transfer, then sends it on.

      So my earlier comment is bunk.

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  13. Good for him... by Pyroskankic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, now that this mission has been accomplished... *Switches back to Firefox when no one is looking*

  14. Ummm... by chrisgeleven · · Score: 5, Informative

    Somehow I don't think he will be able to complete it:

    http://www.didyouknow.cd/aroundtheworld/swimming .h tm


    Possibly the greatest triumph of endurance is Benoit Lecomte swimming across the Atlantic ocean.

    Lecomte, born 1967, immigrated from France to Austin, Texas, at age 23. When his father died of colon cancer in 1992, it spurred him to do something extraordinary to raise awareness of and money for cancer research. With the help of Edward Coyle, director of UT Austin's Human Performance Lab, and dieticians, Lecomte trained to build his endurance, swimming and cycling 3 to 5 hours a day, six days a week for two years. On 16 July 1998 he set out from Cape Cod with 8 wet suits, a snorkel and some flippers into turning weather.

    Navigated through the 40th and 50th latitude by two French sailors on a 12m (40 foot) sailboat and protected by an electronic force field, Lecomte swam 6 to 8 hours a day at two-hour intervals. He mainly used the crawl stroke, switching occasionally to a mono fin and using an undulating dolphin kick to carry him over the 5 600km (3 736 nautical miles) of relentless waves. 72 days later, on 28 September, he swam ashore exhausted but heroic at Quiberon, France.

    1. Re:Ummm... by BaudKarma · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're underestimating the power of postitive thought! All those million people who downloaded Opera are behind this effor 1000 per cent! In fact, I'm downloading Opera again, just to show my support! I predict he'll make the swim in record time, just due to the power of positive thought!!!

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    2. Re:Ummm... by ad0gg · · Score: 3, Funny
      I'm guessing its some sort of boat-based shark repellent.

      2. Where can I get one?

      Don't even bother. It doesn't stop laser beams. Worthless.

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    3. Re:Ummm... by ckaminski · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You've got the Gulf stream propelling you along. NO ONE goes human power east to west in the North Atlantic. It's a losing battle.

    4. Re:Ummm... by 2short · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OK, adding gulf stream velocity, including when he was resing in the boat, gets the numbers in the right ballpark. But that means the gulf stream provided much more of the propulsion than he did.
      It's an impressive feat to be sure, but it seems it would be most accurate to say he swam a lot while floating across the Atlantic in a boat. Most of his distance would have been covered while in the boat.

  15. Is this really frontpage stuff for /.? by GunR · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can you say publicity stunt?
    I wonder how many more downloads /. will give them before calling it quits.

    Now, if MS would do the same, at least we could hope for sharks...

  16. In other news by GroeFaZ · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bill Gates and Steve Balmer promised to swim across their bath tubs, should 1 million bugs be found in IE7 within 4 days after release.

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  17. Re:Isn't this lots and lots of miles? by mav[LAG] · · Score: 5, Funny

    Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

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  18. Murderers by darkmayo · · Score: 5, Funny

    You cold hearted bastards have just sent this man to his death.. hope your happy.

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    1. Re:Murderers by bluGill · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, don't blame me, I use konqueror.

  19. one timer by dhuv · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When will these people realize that you can only make these kinds of statements once. If you cannot follow through, the next time you make a statement like this, no one will care.

  20. A Bet for all of you... by waldoiverson · · Score: 3, Funny

    if the ISS lands on him as he swims, I will give you all a Taco Bell taco.

  21. RTFA! Its a joke! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Read the press release!
    Jeez. It's a joke.
    He's not really going to do it; he's figuring out a way to honorably get out of it.

    1. Re:RTFA! Its a joke! by AviLazar · · Score: 4, Informative

      He already has:

      I blatantly admit that my promise was based more on joy and enthusiasm than my swimming abilities and physical health, I will do my very best to keep it

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  22. Re:Isn't this lots and lots of miles? by mav[LAG] · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wait till I get going!

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  23. Re:I hope he has thermal underwear... by Presidential · · Score: 3, Informative
    ...and quite possibly anti-shark spray, although I don't think that actually exists.


    Hella lotta reading, but essentially it does exist.

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  24. Headline should read by Microsift · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Browser company seeks new CEO"

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  25. Re:Two (other) Words of Advice by mobiGeek · · Score: 3, Funny
    Don't doit.

    ( or maybe "dont doit" for those nerds who will attempt to point out that don't is not a single word... )

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  26. Something tells me.. by phuturephunk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That he should wait until spring..Ya'no, because that whole North sea leg (not to mention the stretch in the north Atlantic) would be somewhat chilly..to say the least.

    1. Re:Something tells me.. by bluGill · · Score: 2, Insightful

      He had better start training now. Something like 2 hours/day in the pool, and one day a week make that 8. (But he should have a professional design the training program, not someone like me who doesn't know how to design such a thing)

      And he needs to spend a few hours a day getting supplies planned. He will want to eat along the way. I presume that row-boat will hold a few days supplies, and every few days someone will come along (how?) to give them more.

      Considering the length of the trip he needs to leave as soon as he can safely swim or it will be winter when he arrives, and that may not be any easier. Though I don't know ocean temperatures.

      I hope he makes it!

    2. Re:Something tells me.. by ckaminski · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If he swam 6-8 hours a day, and the rest of the day slept and rowed across the Atlantic, I personally would consider his bet fulfilled. Man's got to sleep sometime, and the Gulf Stream is going to lose him every mile he fights for.

      Hell, if he started from Cape Cod, he could FLOAT across in a couple months given enough food and hot water.

  27. Re:From the "Mysterious Future" by digidave · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, it's doubtful he could continue doing laps all the way unless he was really dedicated and trained hard for several months. I suspect he will float in a chair the whole way while some bikini-clad waitress brings him bottles of beer and lathers sun screen on his body.

    At least that's how I would do it.

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  28. Nice... by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Princess Bride quotes with a Monty Python sig. That's the kind of humor that I needed on a dreary, Monday morning. :)

    But you would have known that I would have responded to your post, so I clearly cannot mod the comment in front of me.

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    1. Re:Nice... by mav[LAG] · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're just stalling now...

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    2. Re:Nice... by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 3, Funny

      You'd like to think that, wouldn't you?!

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  29. Going on public record... by BMonger · · Score: 2, Funny

    In the case of "Opera Downloaders being charged for the murder of Opera's CEO" I would just like to state on record that I did not download Opera.

  30. Re:Isn't this lots and lots of miles? by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not at all.

    Those stories about explorers dying while crossing the Atlantic are all ploys to keep real-estate values high in Conneticut. If people found out that they could commute to Manhattan faster from France than from New Jersey, the friends of countless politicians would lose their shirts in the market collapse.

  31. For REAL adventure see THIS... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Steven Newman's site theworldwalker.com. He is listed as the first man to WALK around the world. It took him 4 years and his book "Worldwalk" is a GREAT read (Order it and he'll autograph it and send it back to you).

    He wrote a series of letters that were sent back and published in newspapers and all of them are being republished in their entirety on his web site right now.

    Ironically he also ended up having a Japanese businessman to name a whole line of sporting goods after him.

  32. Pictures are up by nandhp · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://opera.com/swim/ - Pictures have been posted. Next update at at 10:00 am CET (4AM EDT)

  33. They're planning on a loooong trip by hugesmile · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From TFA:

    The next update on the remarkable and heroic journey will be available here on Tuesday, April 25, at 10:00 am CET (04:00 am EST).

    Tuesday April 25 is a year from today!

    1. Re:They're planning on a loooong trip by vDave420 · · Score: 2, Informative
      The next update on the remarkable and heroic journey will be available here on Tuesday, April 25, at 10:00 am CET (04:00 am EST).

      Tuesday April 25 is a year from today!

      Yeah, I noticed that as well the first time I read through the article.

      However, when I went to go post this, I noticed your post. When I double checked the article, to be sure that we weren't mistaken, here is what it had been updated to:

      The next update on the remarkable and heroic journey will be available here on Tuesday, April 26, at 10:00 am CET (04:00 am EST).

      Maybe they read your comment and noticed the typo? Perhaps he will try after all? Ha!

      -dave-

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  34. Easy to explain--bad google seach results by FerretFrottage · · Score: 2, Funny

    While testing the Opera browser he was searching google for the term "swimming across atlantic ocean" and hit the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button.

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  35. Prediction by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There'll be a boat next to him. Around the 5th km, he'll give up, and say: "Well, at least I tried". Then he'll become an Icon of "you never know until you try", and a whole marketing campaign will rise from this.

  36. Norway, Maine by Xian97 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe he will try to swim across Pennesseewassee Lake in Norway, Maine to keep his promise of swimming from Norway to the US.

    While undoubtably a publicity stunt, it's nice to hear that Opera 8 had 1,000,000 downloads. I have been a fan of it for years and use it as my primary browser. Although it is not Open Source they support more Operating Systems than any other browser - I even remember running a BeOS version years ago.

  37. In related news... by Kippesoep · · Score: 2, Funny

    Opera is looking to hire a new Chief Executive Officer as they seem to suspect being without one soon.

  38. Re:Isn't this lots and lots of miles? by mekkab · · Score: 2, Funny

    so many ways to respond, a myriad of responses!

    Continue the ad hominem attacks?

    Educate you that its an homage to "Monty Python's Flying Circus"?

    Make a velied reference to Monty Python's Flying Circus?

    Make an allusion to another fav british show "Red Dwarf" by telling you to Smeg off?

    Or some dissmissive missive that indicates you should simply give up because your ad hominem attack belies your own ignorance; a faux pas that diminishes your own standing in The Group by casting aspersions regarding the size of your manhood?

    This is too much for a Monday morning; my head asplode!*

    *-Ah, the old classic; escape via Homestarrunner reference!

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  39. Not a dupe!! by kajoob · · Score: 2, Funny

    This isn't a dupe . The first article was about swimming across, this article is about swimming back.

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  40. Re:Two (other) Words of Advice by Deinhard · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't understand this post. A "doit" is a small Dutch coin (about a half farthing).

    Is this a reference to trying to make money off the publicity?

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  41. If he doesn't do it... by BinBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...everyone should upload the browser back to the web site.

  42. Bitter Ex-Wife by spineboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    A little known fact is that his bitter ex-wife was personally responsible for downloading over 300,000 copies of the program, stating " I hope he frezzes his nubbins off!"

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  43. Re:Why cant some other CEOs try it by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd rather see the Director for IE development swim to the bottom of the atlantic.

  44. My Resume by eander315 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Dear Opera,

    After viewing the pictures on your website, I would like to apply for the newly opened positions of CEO and PR Manager at your company. I feel I have the necessary qualifications, such as "not-drowned" and "not-reported-lost-in-the-northern-Atlantic".

    Thank you for your time and consideration.

  45. Re:wetsuits drysuits by step · · Score: 3, Informative
    channel attempts are very short compared to a transatlantic swim. it's over in a few hours, whereas you're looking at several weeks in this case.
    things to keep in mind:
    • traditional wetsuits, and especially drysuits are made for diving, not swimming. they are too stiff to swim for more than a few minutes (read: extra effort going nowhere) and cause abrasions / chafing in lots of places (neck and shoulders especially). there are suits made especially for swimming (try Quintana Roo or Ironman Wetsuits), but von Tetzchner is wearing a diving suit.
    • you can't stock enough supplies for two people in a rubber inflatable.
    • sharks. you'd probably want to swim in a shark cage.
    • currents. unless you were totally insane, you'd rather swim with the currents than against them.
    by the way, here's a guy who actually did it.
  46. Re:not sure about that by gardyloo · · Score: 3, Informative

    for some reason being in water saps the heat out of you much more quickly than air will.

    That's part of one of the reasons, but there are others a bit more important:

    The most important reason is the huge heat capacity of water: you can shove a little bit of heat into a given mass of air, and it'll warm up a huge amount, very quickly, to the point that it's often very very near the temperature of whatever it's in contact with (and no more heat, on average, will flow into it once it's at the same temperature as the heretofore warmer thing). However, if you do the same thing with the same mass of water, the water will just keep sucking more and more heat from whatever is warmer than it, as it will take much longer to heat up (generally).

    The density argument is *somewhat* applicable, because it means that a given patch of skin will be in contact with a lot more water than it will with air, and so there's better thermal conductivity away from that patch of skin. However, that's the only thing I can see which would connect density to this issue -- the specific heat capacity of gold (at 19.3 times as dense as water) is only about 3% of that of water. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_heat_capacit y

  47. Re:not sure about that by delta_avi_delta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll give you a clue - you can stick your hand into an oven at 100 degrees very safely, but you can't stick your hand into a pot of boiling water :)

  48. Re:HOLY CRAP by CoffeeJedi · · Score: 4, Funny

    given the parent of this thread, shouldn't that read:
    "HOLY CARP"

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  49. 60 degrees can kill you pretty quickly by bradleyland · · Score: 4, Informative

    For short time periods 60 degree water is fine, but when swimming trans-atlantic, you want something a bit warmer.

    Temperature Fahrenheit | Exhaustion/Unconscious | Expected Survival

    32.5 | <15 min. | 10 to 45 min.
    32.5 - 40 | 15 - 30 min. | 39 to 90 min.
    40 - 50 | 30 - 60 min. | 1 to 3 Hours
    50 - 60 | 1 - 2 Hours | 1 to 6 Hours
    60 -70 | 2 - 7 Hours | 2 to 40 Hours
    70 -80 | 3 - 12 Hours | 3 to Indefinitely
    Over 80 | Indefinitely | Indefinitely

    From: http://www.walrus.com/~belov/hypothermia.html

    1. Re:60 degrees can kill you pretty quickly by CatMan79 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You forgot:

      80-95 | Indefinitely | Indefinitely
      95-105 | 2-7 Hours | 2-10 Hours
      ...
      400-410 | 5-10 sec. | 30 to 60 sec.
      etc.

  50. Re:not sure about that by snorklewacker · · Score: 4, Funny

    most spas are 100+ degrees. i think you got mixed up between centigrade and fahrenheit... water boils at 212F/i

    Even so -- I regularly stick my hand into a 450 degree oven when things need moving around in there. It ain't comfy, but I can take 20 seconds of it. I'll assume for the sake of argument that the outside air has cooled things down to a balmy 350 degrees (it hasnt, but my point will still be made)

    Now stick your hand into water boiling at a "mere" 212 degrees for just 10 seconds. You've just learned a painful lesson about heat transfer.

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  51. Re:North Atlantic current does the "swimming" forw by 2short · · Score: 2, Informative

    But he actually specified he's going to swim from Norway to America by way of Greenland. i.e. against the North Atlantic current. Since said current flows slightly faster than the fastest swimmers swim, this whole disscussion is silly, because he's not actually going to do it.

  52. Re:not sure about that by uhlume · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who says he "got mixed up"? He didn't specify temperature scales, and most of the civilized world aside from us 'Merkins don't use Fahrenheit. 100 degrees Celsius is the boiling point of water.

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