Slashdot Mirror


Firefox nears 50 Million Downloads

bluephone writes "Firefox hit 49,000,000 downloads last night. Today, as we approach 50,000,000, SpreadFirefox is offering prizes for photographic proof of your most amazing spectacles to celebrate. To quote: 'We have a handful of unique prizes that you won't find anywhere else, and we're asking you to do one simple thing to claim one: impress us. As we drive toward 50 million downloads, do something so cool, so unusual and so spectacular to spread Firefox that we can't help but scurry around the Mozilla Foundation to tell every one.' But you don't have long. The Infocraft Firefox Counter shows just over 800,000 downloads left at the time of this submission!"

61 of 314 comments (clear)

  1. Swimming? by Avsen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Any devs volunteered to swim the Pacific over this?

    --


    Massive networking attempt for friends

    1. Re:Swimming? by tehshen · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hey, Firefox can't go swimming, because the flames will go out. Which sucks. Maybe the Opera guy could find it and snuggle up to it for warmth if it lasts long enough.

      --
      Guy asked me for a quarter for a cup of coffee. So I bit him.
    2. Re:Swimming? by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, Firefox can't go swimming, because the flames will go out.

      Ah, now I get the joke on this link:
      "Should we lower Mitchell, our fearless president, into an erupting volcano?"
      It's a parody of the Opera Atlantic swim, Firefox style!

      BTM

      --
      That was the turning point of my life--I went from negative zero to positive zero.
  2. Firefox and the Slashdot set by winkydink · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The subset of people who visit Network Mirror are showing 75% Firefox & 22% IE.

    --

    "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    1. Re:Firefox and the Slashdot set by winkydink · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here's the whole list. IIRC, Opera can be configured to say it's either IE or FF, so their numbers are probably a little low.

      75.72% Mozilla
      22.50% Microsoft Internet Explorer
      0.22% Opera/8.0 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
      0.13% Opera/7.54 (X11; Linux i686; U) [en]
      0.12% Opera/7.54 (Windows NT 5.1; U) [en]
      0.10% Opera/8.0 (X11; Linux i686; U; en)
      0.09% Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.google.com/bot.html)
      0.09% Opera/7.54 (Windows NT 5.0; U) [en]
      0.07% Googlebot-Image/1.0
      0.04% Opera/8.0 (Windows NT 5.0; U; en)
      0.03% Opera/7.54 (Windows NT 5.1; U) [nb]
      0.03% Opera/8.00 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
      0.03% Opera/7.23 (Windows NT 5.1; U) [en]
      0.03% Schmozilla/v9.14 Platinum
      0.03% Mediapartners-Google/2.1

      --

      "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    2. Re:Firefox and the Slashdot set by thepotoo · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Does anyone know what the stats are for a major site like google or yahoo? It would be more meaningful to see that.

      This is really a great day for open source and Firefox. Hopefully, most of those downloads are being used and not just sitting around (although I suspect that a few people are downloading FF several times).

      --
      Obligatory Soundbite Catchphrase
    3. Re:Firefox and the Slashdot set by baadger · · Score: 2, Informative

      Cheers!

      Interesting there there is 8.00 and 8.0. BTW I think Opera still appends 'Opera' to the user-agent when set to identify as IE or Firefox/Mozilla.

    4. Re:Firefox and the Slashdot set by ditto999999999999999 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I just checked it out. Here is what Opera uses as the user agent:

      "Identify as opera": Opera/8.0 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)

      "Identify as MSIE 6": Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.0

      Thats neat, I thought it would have not advertised itself as Opera at all.

    5. Re:Firefox and the Slashdot set by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 2, Informative

      The default setting in Opera is to pretend to be MSIE6.0

    6. Re:Firefox and the Slashdot set by shellbeach · · Score: 2, Informative

      What's 'Schmozilla' anyway?

      Seems a bit of a puzzle, have a look at

      http://www.trilithium.com/johan/2004/12/wizard.yel lowbrick.oz/

      or

      http://www.cleverhack.com/blog/archives/000887.htm l

      Whoever's doing this has obviously been around for a while, since the second link is from 2003 ...

    7. Re:Firefox and the Slashdot set by bergwitz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone is downloading Firefox several times.
      Download Firefox 1.0, update Firefox to 1.0.1, 1.0.2 and 1.0.3. That's four downloads of the whole package. 50 million/4 = 12,5 million.
      It's nice with 12,5 million users, but it's not 50 millions.

      --
      Evolution is just a scientific theory. Creationism is not.
  3. Hmmm. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did the article just ask me to go on a mass shooting spree while wearing a firefox shirt?

    1. Re:Hmmm. by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Did the article just ask me to go on a mass shooting spree while wearing a firefox shirt?

      Yes. In Redmond.

      --
      -1 Uncomfortable Truth
  4. GNU is a virus = X rated photos? by lilmouse · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, I'm told GNU is like a Virus, and FireFox is open source, so I can think of a great way *I'd* like to spread it!

    Of course, they may have trouble posting the pictures on spreadfirefox!

    --LWM

    1. Re:GNU is a virus = X rated photos? by winkydink · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is Slashdot.

      Infecting your hand doesn't count as "spreading it".

      --

      "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

  5. Like this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    #!/bin/bash
    :start
    wget http://www.mozilla.org/Firefox1.0.3Setup.exe
    rm Firefox1.0.3Setup.exe
    goto start

    Besides, real men use Opera.

    1. Re:Like this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      >Besides, real men use Opera.

      Real man use telnet to port 80 or lynx, they don't eat quiche either...

    2. Re:Like this? by me+at+werk · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know it's feeding a troll, but here's some information:

      The calculations are from bouncer. That means clicks from the webpage, or grabs of that URI. Getting files off the FTP is not counted at all towards the goal. Thenceforth, all your script would do is waste bandwidth.

      --
      For context, click Parent.
    3. Re:Like this? by biglig2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pah! Real men put the Cat5 in their mouth and interpret the tingling.

      --
      ~~~~~ BigLig2? You mean there's another one of me?
    4. Re:Like this? by juggleme · · Score: 3, Funny

      I doubt it. Real men aren't going to do fellatio on a cat5 cable (how else are you going to do a GET?) to read a web page.

    5. Re:Like this? by me+at+werk · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was merely pointing out example. If you go to http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/ and grab the latest-release, it's not counted. You can't get the file off the www.mozilla.org http, either. Looks like I'll have to go further into this.

      When you click the "Download Firefox" link, you are sent here:

      http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.0 .3 &os=win&lang=en-US

      Please note download (not www) is taking this, and a script is activated to pick a mirror. This script, Bouncer, picks a server and sends you there, and counts a download. That's how (i believe) it is counted. I have word from Asa that downloads from the FTP (and ftp over http) which weren't initiated through the webpage/link, are not counted. However you don't have to believe me on that, as the original question I asked was in regards to nightlies, so it's still possible I'm wrong.

      If you go to download.mozilla.org and notice it redirects to www.mozilla.org, and feel like you should point that out to pretend you have found the secret (that download. is merely an alias for www.), I have something for you, too.

      http://www.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.0.3&os =w in&lang=en-US fails. It does not download the product. If download. were an alias for www., shouldn't it work?

      Conclusion: The grand-something-parent's script would not work as written, or nearly as written. :)

      --
      For context, click Parent.
  6. quick.. someone pull this off by peculiarmethod · · Score: 5, Funny

    All you need to do is hack paris hiltons new blackberry, put in a folder called pics, include firefox.exe in it.. release details on slashdot as a troll. BAM. 2 billion installs.

    --
    ** "It's not my job to stand between the people talking to me, and the ones listening to me." -- Pego the Jerk
  7. flaming foxes by weopenlatest · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just dipped a few dozen foxes in lighter fluid and set them scurrying around the park aflame, but those damn firefox people just called me a sick bastard.

  8. Re:Did they calculate the 49.000.000 by demondawn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Joking aside, is this just 1.0+ downloads, or all downloads ever?

  9. Re:Did they calculate the 49.000.000 by bluephone · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just 1.0+ downloads.

    --
    jX [ Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. - Einstein ]
  10. Over on... by tcopeland · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...RubyForge it's mostly Mozilla/Firefox too:
    gforge=> select browser, count(browser) from activity_log group by browser;
    browser | count
    ---------+--------
    OPERA | 240
    OTHER | 167539
    MOZILLA | 251311
    IE | 73724
  11. Weird... by EdZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone find it odd that the spreadfirefox image galleries don't display properly in firefox (e.g. http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=image/tid/42). Maybe 1600x1200 is just too much for the page? Who knows?

  12. I got it! by Golias · · Score: 5, Funny

    I will celebrate by rounding up 50,000 actual foxes and setting them all on fire!

    And to really turn it in to a spectacle, I will call PITA and give them advanced warning of the event, so they can round up whoever they can find to try to stop me... and then I'll do it an hour earlier than I said I would.

    MWwaaah-hahahahaha!!!

    --

    Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

    1. Re:I got it! by winkydink · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean PETA, but I'm sure a lot of people consider the a PITA. :)

      --

      "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    2. Re:I got it! by TheIndefiniteArticle · · Score: 2, Funny

      imagine Eating a member of PiTA

    3. Re:I got it! by Xeo+024 · · Score: 5, Funny

      BREAKING NEWS

      FOXES SET ON FIRE

      Man sets entire population of foxes on fire in the woods of California, as he was arrested and taken away by the authorities, he was heard saying "spreadfirefox.com fools, now where's my prize?" The deluded man was promptly beaten with a night stick several times, as he made his way to his new home, the state penitentiary, according to several eye witness reports. PITA arrived on scene, and was outraged by the incident, declaring war on the man. The United States government quickly rose the terror alert level to red, and President Bush later commented "The quick brown fox jumped over the.. uh... damn I forgot it again" confusing the press, and consequently creating havoc on TV stations world wide.

      Details developing.

    4. Re:I got it! by Callitrax · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is PETA which stands for People for Ethical Treatment of Animals.

      And here I thought it was People Eating Tasty Animals

  13. Not wanting to be pessimist... by jawtheshark · · Score: 5, Insightful
    but, I alone, have been responsible for at least 20 different downloads? Why? I don't carry around my USB stick all the time and when I want to install it somewhere, I just re-download it. Also this can't be the downloads of a single release: it's the total downloads since version 1.0? If yes, how about the people that redownloaded just because a new version came out?

    Of course, often a download my indicate more than one install: at my parents, I downloaded the program once and installed it on all machines (4 in total)

    So, we cannot say much from download numbers about the spread of the program. We still have the risk that we geeks/nerds download it for people and those people stick to IE. Case in point: I'm a teacher and all my pupils use IE. Even though, I always tell them to use Firefox. Why? Don't ask me... I'm only doing this job since january.

    --
    Ahhh...the great dumpster continuum. Many a free computer will be found there. -- sowth (748135)
    1. Re:Not wanting to be pessimist... by oboylet · · Score: 2, Informative
      I can't find the link right away, but Asa Dotzler has said on his weblog that no, 1.0.x downloads do not count towards the 50 million. Queue up another several tens of millions if that were the case.

      Also, the numbers could just as well be skewed in the opposite direction, since some people might only have 'switched' when their distribution was updated. Perhaps a small number for sure, but definitely a realistic possiblity.

    2. Re:Not wanting to be pessimist... by tehshen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, but while there are people like you who download it many times, there are other people who download it once and deploy it many times, or use a package manager to install it. 50 000 000 is a pretty big number, so everything pans out eventually.

      Usage is the best metric of Firefox's success; however, you can't measure it, as different sites have different hit rates, no doubt many have already been mentioned. Downloads is the best count we have because it's actually measurable.

      --
      Guy asked me for a quarter for a cup of coffee. So I bit him.
  14. How about 2^26? by Eunuch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Binary milestones are for nerds. They are what matters.

    --
    Transcend Humanity. Please.
  15. No contest... by killa62 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seriously... Zonk won because he posted this on slashdot...

  16. Hmmm... by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suspect that a few of the responses to this campaign will have the hapless promoters throwing their hands in front of their eyes, whimpering, "I really didn't need to see that..."

  17. Thanks for the /.ing by scovetta · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can now download Firefox at a blazing 6.7kbps.

    And it looks like every /.er is downloading Firefox just to make the counter go up.

    As if this wasn't expected.

    --
    Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. --Nietzsche
  18. Re:Counter by uberdave · · Score: 3, Funny

    I opened up two copies of the spreadfirefox counter page, and the counts differed. That is odd.

  19. Needs to be 50 times better than that! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Need to fly around the world naked by flapping arms with a sparkler hanging out his butt.

    --
    Engineering is the art of compromise.
  20. Re:misleading? by br0ck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    But shouldn't it be 50 mil / 4 = 12.5 mil because almost all users automatically updated from 1.0.0.0 to .1, .2 and then .3?

  21. Spectacular way to spread Firefox? by PDAllen · · Score: 2, Funny

    DL source... check
    Add a couple of bits of code from Bagle and Netsky... check
    Compiles... check

    Crack the server, upload the new release...

    Welcome to 100 million Firefoxes overnight!

  22. Re:misleading? by asa · · Score: 5, Informative

    But shouldn't it be 50 mil / 4 = 12.5 mil because almost all users automatically updated from 1.0.0.0 to .1, .2 and then .3?

    We're not counting those users who updated via our application update mechanism.

    - A

  23. Samson for the win by FeetOfStinky · · Score: 2, Funny

    Even Old Testament folks were getting down with Firefox: "And Samson went and caught three hundred foxes, and took firebrands, and turned tail to tail, and put a firebrand in the midst between two tails. And when he had set the brands on fire, he let them go into the standing Corn of the Philistines, and burnt up both the shocks, and also the standing corn, with the vineyards and olives." "Then the Philistines said, Who hath done this? And they answered, Samson, the son in law of the Timnite, because he had taken his wife, and given her to his companion. And the Philistines came up, and burnt her and her father with fire." (Judges 15:1-6 KJV)

  24. Sad... by FreeLinux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It doesn't render properly in Firefox or Konqueror. Must be one of those IE only sites.

  25. Now make it easier to deploy in LAN by 25albert · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, now that so many home users have Firefox, and that it works really well, maybe it is time to tackle the corporate front?

    FF could be made much easier and practical for administrators to deploy.

    There is FFDeploy, but I would hope for something better and easier.

    A possibility would be to allow some .ini file as argument to the install, specifying:

    - profile location (with the possibility to leave out that stupid random directory name in the profile path),

    - a cache directory separate from the profile folder and/or the right registry entries so the cache isn't copied over the network at every logon/logoff.

    - extensions to be installed straight away,

    - etc.

    That .ini or whatever should also expand environment variables like %username%, %userprofile%, etc. (and $HOME etc. on Unix).

    If you are deploying FF on your network, have you found a way to do it without going to every machine and setting it up manually?

    1. Re:Now make it easier to deploy in LAN by starfishsystems · · Score: 2, Interesting
      OK, now that so many home users have Firefox, and that it works really well, maybe it is time to tackle the corporate front?

      A consulting group with which I'm associated just completed a half-day product integration demo for one of our clients using Firefox, as this was the specified preference of the client. Of course, this is an elightened client, which is exactly the kind we prefer.

      If you are deploying FF on your network, have you found a way to do it without going to every machine and setting it up manually?

      One simple litmus test I have for software installation in a Unix environment is to target the installation onto a shared filesystem. This directly demonstrates two kinds of relocatability:

      • the software installs correctly on the server, for example in /export/share/software, and
      • the software runs correctly on the client, for example in /mnt/share/software.

      For practical reasons, this is not always the way software will be deployed in a production environment, but it is a canonical deployment which every site should consider using to define its repository of installed software. If installation works in this case, it's safe to infer that it will also work when distributed by any other means such as cfengine.

      --
      Parity: What to do when the weekend comes.
  26. Re:so what - skype got much more downloads... by __aaitqo8496 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Skype doesn't face the compitition Firefox does - there's not vendor installing a similar application with every copy of the OS

  27. okay... by sellin'papes · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'll probably get trolled for this, but I think it has to be said:

    This article isn't news, and it doesn't really matter. Most /. articles fall into at least one of those categories. Its not like Firefox released a new version, or was offering new services. This article is advertisement encouraging people to visit the website and brand themselves for some 'secret prizes'.

    --
    This is my last post.
    [6th Estate]
  28. Downloads All Updates? by FriedTurkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Firefox asks me to update when a new version is released but it really just downloads another version. It would be cool if they did something that just updated it self instead of just downloading a new version.

    1. Re:Downloads All Updates? by Pecisk · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is answer to your question:
      Slashdot comment #12352325

      No, they don't count updates from FF as downloads in spreadfirefox.com counter.

      --
      user@ubuntubox:~$ stfu This server is going down for shutdown NOW!
  29. Re:When it gets more stable... by __aaitqo8496 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm the world's biggest fan of Microsoft. To me, Microsoft Excel is the best application ever written, and Microsoft C#/.NET is the best programming language and operating environment ever developed.

    Oh yeah, that sounds like an objective web page. How much more stable do you need? I only rarely experience problems with firefox, and those typically are attributed to crappy plugin implementations (such as Adobe's PDF Reader - which I've since stopped using, the resource hog it is).

    Further, regarding the il rendering of slashdot, maybe if the site code maintainers would update the template to something that actually validates, everything would Just Work. As of now, Slashdot doesn't even validate at HTML 3.2. It includes no character encoding information and the SGML parser on W3 comes up with 114 errors. Maybe they could follow some advice and Retool Slashdot with web standards.

  30. a-la-Golden-Palace by Locarius · · Score: 2, Funny
    Do what this guy did:

    Step 1: Paint SPREADFIREFOX.com on chest

    Step 2: Wear baby-blue tutu under clothes

    Step 3: Attend Olympic sporting event

    Step 4: Remove clothes

    Step 5: Dive from Olympic diving board

    Step 6: uh... profit?

  31. Flamebait! by EnsilZah · · Score: 3, Funny

    Getting a bunch of PETA members somewhere by setting a bunch of foxes on fire?

    That's just plain flamebait!

  32. Re:obligatory by DigitalHammer · · Score: 3, Funny

    This broadcast was brought to you by Fox News.

    (Sorry, couldn't resist the pun.)

  33. FireTalk or FireFriends extension idea by cryptoluddite · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There was a story a while back about flaws in Firefox and that it should integrate an instant messenger client. Kinda...

    My idea is to have a IM/IRC panel that automatically shows other Firefox users with their windows open to the same page or maybe site. Just think how cool it would be if you read some comment on Slashdot and it says the author is online; you can chat and followup a discussion without having to post lots of +0 Noise posts that nobody else really cares about anyway. Or maybe you're reading some technical article and see a few other Firefox users on the same page -- you can ask them some question specific to that page (one might be the author with the page open in firefox to answer questions, ask readers what they think of the wroiting, etc).

    If done right this could be pretty darn cool IMO. It has to be done with the browser because basically it should be a system that applies to all websites. This would also be a great social aspect to help build the Firefox community. The server load could be balanced by hashing the site or URL and thereby dividing the load on the browser end.

    1. Re:FireTalk or FireFriends extension idea by Cinquero · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, writing plugins for Firefox is not too hard. You just need to set up a central server where the plugin can post your current browsing location... it will then make a lookup and display all people being online. A click should then pop up a message window from your external IM client.

      Site-related chat rooms could, of course, be implemented server-side and independent from an IM client.

      That should be pretty easy to do.

  34. Re:Counter by blakeross · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not quite. It is a real counter that synchronizes with the actual number every 60 seconds. In the interim, it increases by a constantly adjusting rate that's usually pretty close to correct. See http://www.infocraft.com/projects/ffcounter/

  35. Re:Firefox Update? by bluephone · · Score: 2, Informative

    No. Just straight DLs, not the Update feature. So my downloads of 1.0.2 and 1.0.3 weren't counted, just my FTP of 1.0.1, for example.

    --
    jX [ Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. - Einstein ]