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Safari And KHTML May Never Meet

diegocgteleline.es writes "Announcing that Safari passes the Acid2 test has raised some voices in the KDE world. Apple, they say, isn't playing friendly. They don't provide a CVS history, just the modified files where nobody can understand how and when things have changed. It's quite likely that KHTML developers will have to write their own code to pass the acid2 test. Zack Rusin writes: 'All I'm asking for is that all the clueless people stop talking about the cooperation between Safari/Konqueror developers and how great it is. There's absolutely nothing great about it. In fact "it" doesn't exist.'"

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  1. Come on, Apple.. by PaxTech · · Score: 1, Funny

    There's more to being a good open source citizen than just providing source. While that may be all that's required by the license, being a good OS citizen goes beyond just doing the bare minimum.

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    1. Re:Come on, Apple.. by gowen · · Score: 3, Funny
      "Imagine no possessions," said the millionaire from his luxury Manhattan apartment.
      But of course. if he was actually broke, the song would've been called. "Harsh Reality" and the opening line would've been "Bugger, no possessions".
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  2. But... But... by PhotoGuy · · Score: 5, Funny
    But... Butt... Apple Good!

    I give up, no more computers for me.

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  3. Wow, pick on apple today by Fox_1 · · Score: 1, Funny

    not that they are making things easy on themselves the past few weeks with nasty lawsuits and sneaky business practices, but damn when did they become the evil empire? next thing you know they fall into a pool of molten lava and get some cool head gear.

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  4. Apple tries to woo KDE folks by mynzai · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a shocking and unsuspected announcement, Apple will change their name to 'KApple' in an effort to patch relations with other Kommunities.

  5. Re:Isn't that what opensource is about ? by tuxnduke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not quite that if I have understood the case correctly.. they took open source component as a core to their browser, modified it and now they have to contribute back to the project, since the stuff Apple used is under GPL, if you use & modify, you have to provide the changes you made when asked..

  6. Re:Is this a joke? by nharmon · · Score: 4, Funny

    they have to do more than the minimum.

    And how many pieces of flare are you wearing?

  7. Re:Is this a joke? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just one.

    Put it out! Put it out!

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  8. KTiger by booch · · Score: 2, Funny

    And they'll rename Tiger to KTiger (or Kiger) to get around the lawsuit from TigerDirect.

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    1. Re:KTiger by mynzai · · Score: 1, Funny

      Actually, a Kiger is a mythical beast. It's probably my favorite animal and is a cross between a large predatory cat and a large predatory company.

  9. Re:Isn't that what opensource is about ? by wchanley · · Score: 2, Funny
    Apple has a responsibility to its shareholders, its customers and its own developers well before it has any obligation to make the life of a KDE/Konqueror/KHTML developer easier.

    If folks want things like a mandatory CVS repository or changelogs in addition to contributing back your changes to the source, those sorts of requirements should simply be a part of the license itself. If what you want is not required by the license you're releasing under, moaning and groaning because Apple is complying with your license - and no more than your license - is silly.

    Propose changes to the GPL, if what you want isn't in there.

  10. We've got a winner for IOCCC 2005! by statixz · · Score: 1, Funny

    Looks like Apple Safari has won this year's International Obfuscated C Code Contest.

  11. Dear Apple by joeytsai · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unfortunately, we have to inform you that you are simply not welcome here in the free software community. Obviously, you are just being a parasite by commercially supporting the use, maintenance and extension the KHTML library. Not only are you making bug fixes and amplifying the usefulness of the code, but you're also sending them back to upstream for them to integrate. This burden you are placing on us is clearly unacceptable.

    Happily, we don't care for or need your help - as you know the use of free software amongst large and recognizable corporations is incredibly commonplace, and all those companies have no problem at all helping out the community and contributing back in the way we desire.

    Although you're new and unexperienced in the free software community, you'll understand if we have no patience for your assistance. Still, I'm sure you found working with us to be a great experience, and we hope that you consider us in the future when you're developing other projects. Clearly, nobody else will see this situation as any sort of reason not to bother dealing with free software in the future.

    Thanks again!

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  12. Re:They have the code by JoshRosenbaum · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thank you for posting that. :) It's amazing how many people here have no clue about coding.

  13. Re:They have the code by Narishma · · Score: 2, Funny

    And read TFA.

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  14. They would meet if they tried a bit harder by digitaldc · · Score: 2, Funny

    Safari And KHTML would meet if only they would use an internet dating service. They just have to tell what they are compatible with, and how they can meet in real life.

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  15. Re:Isn't that what opensource is about ? by he-sk · · Score: 3, Funny

    My preferred form for making modifications would be CDs made out of gold. Actually, I'd like to have one CD for each source file.

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  16. Ultimate Battle by chriso11 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is really cool to see apple fanatics go up against linux fanatics. Maybe I should throw a 'this is all M$' fault' into the discussion...

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  17. Re:Is this a joke? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    We won't even go into what happened if the comments themselves counted as changes. :-) Nice recursive process there.

  18. Re:Stop complaining by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Internet Explorer is based on the Mosaic source code, as is the Netscape browser and thus Firefox. Don't you think Microsoft has already done enough for Firefox?