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Yamauchi Retiring from Nintendo's Board

terrisus writes "While he had stepped down as President a few years back, Hiroshi Yamauchi had remained on Nintendo's Board of Directors. In June, however, Yamauchi will now be retiring from the Board of Directors as well. He will be foregoing his multi-million dollar retirement package, instead desiring the money be put to work in other places. He will still be a 10% stockholder in the company. It's sad to see him go."

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  1. My Yamauchi retired a while ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently, I didn't feed it enough. I'm surprise Nintendo kept theirs alive this long.

    1. Re:My Yamauchi retired a while ago by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Huh? But mine was a Yamauchi!

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    2. Re:My Yamauchi retired a while ago by aichpvee · · Score: 2

      You must be new here.

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    3. Re:My Yamauchi retired a while ago by the+MaD+HuNGaRIaN · · Score: 1

      LOL....now you sir, are very funny.

  2. It is sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But despite being sad probably not a bad thing. Yamauchi is pretty much personally responsible for the fact that Nintendo in the mid-90s were frankly a bunch of unrepentant assholes, and thus indirectly responsible for the fleeing of Square and pretty much all of the rest of Nintendo's developer base as well. His departure from the spot at the helm of Nintendo meanwhile is the chief reason for Nintendo's relative degree of recovery lately. Many companies however, such as Namco, have still indicated they retain hard feelings over the treatment they received from yamauchi.

    That said, exactly what is the functional difference between being on the board and owning 10% of the company anyway?

    1. Re:It is sad by TEMM · · Score: 3, Informative

      The board makes decisions that affect the company directly, while shareholders are only responsible for electing the board of governors.

    2. Re:It is sad by SetupWeasel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now that Namco is making games like Star Fox Assult, Donkey Konga, and the arcade Mario Kart, I think much of the wounds have healed. Nintendo has been going out of their way to mend relations with 3rd parties in the last couple years.

    3. Re:It is sad by Razzak · · Score: 1

      That said, exactly what is the functional difference between being on the board and owning 10% of the company anyway?

      Well, let's see. As a 10% shareholder, you just get 10% voting power on anything that is voted on in proxies. You don't really get much if the shares are common, non-preferred shares. As a director, you get an additional retainer/salary which takes the form of cash, stock, or stock options, and depending on the size of the company can be quite large (anywhere from $25k to $1 million) per year. Further, you must attend 75% of meetings (a requirement that sometimes isn't enforced) and there are generally anywhere from 4 to 16 meetings per year. You also help with the main decisionmaking of the company. For example, it's probably the Board of directors who approve any major plans for the company, such as if Nintendo should become a software-only type company such as Sega, or if Nintendo should acquire other companies, etc. Further, Directors are responsible for overseeing the company (making sure financial audits are carried out and check out, setting the CEO's pay). As a director, you need to be re-elected every few years by the shareholders, however there's things in this process that make it not really an election (basically, your votes don't matter). You also, being tied to the company, have many more restrictions on when and how you may divest, buy and sell shares.

    4. Re:It is sad by mrscorpio · · Score: 1

      IAALSD (I am a licensed securities dealer).

      The board of directors by law must consist of at least 40% "uninterested parties". Uninterested meaning not stockholders, working for the company, family members of people working for the company, etc.

      Which of course means that 60% still CAN be part owner (stockholders).

      Of course, this is USA SEC law. I don't know Japan's laws, but I would expect that they are similar.

      I don't know the makeup of Nintendo's shareholders or their method of voting in board members, but I'm guessing that 10% is a pretty big stake comparatively and he could still wield quite a bit of influence as to who gets voted into the board of directors, though he will have no control over company direction and policy.

  3. Non-greedy executive? by Fyre2012 · · Score: 5, Insightful


    "He will be foregoing his multi-million dollar retirement package, instead desiring the money be put to work in other places"


    Wow... i'm impressed... when was the last time any other executive ever gave up a multi-million dollar severance package with the advice "it's best spent on something other than me"

    what would happen if exec's around the world took this example to heart?

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    1. Re:Non-greedy executive? by infonography · · Score: 1

      does that included a intern pressing the feed button daily?

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    2. Re:Non-greedy executive? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      He owns 10% of a company with a "$7+ billion war chest". I assume that means liquid assets and not the total value of the company. So turning down $10 million or so might be for a tax break.

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    3. Re:Non-greedy executive? by tofucubes · · Score: 1
      ...wow no more greedy execs?

      umm...I guess the next in charge would be the greedy managers :^P an okay cause I guess

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    4. Re:Non-greedy executive? by ZephyrXero · · Score: 1

      But interns don't get paid anything...

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    5. Re:Non-greedy executive? by patio11 · · Score: 1
      No slight against Mr. Yamaguchi, but this doesn't even compare to the amount of charity Bill Gates does on yearly basis. He's forgoing a severance package worth somewhere between $2 and $10 million (estimated based on general Japanese practice -- their executives are not well compensated salary-wise compared to American ones, although they have "perks" which are kept off the books to balance things out, but thats a whole 'nother topic)... but not his 10% of a $13 billion dollar market capitalization (might be more now -- I'm estimating from their stock repurchase of 2003). To put this in perspective, if you're making $30,000 a year this is like you dropping $50 into the widows and orphans fund at the end of the year.


      He's also letting Nintendo keep the money, and as a for-profit company it wouldn't be my personal charitable choice, but I can't criticize him since he's earned it and if he wants the company to be his legacy it's his call.

    6. Re:Non-greedy executive? by kfg · · Score: 1

      The precedent was set by Robert Townsend when he was president of American Express in the late 50s, refusing to take a bonus or pay increase while still working, because that would be misappropriating the stockholder's money.

      KFG

    7. Re:Non-greedy executive? by Tirinal · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Things like this are actually par the course in Japan, where the yearly salary ratio of the top 10% of wage earners to the bottom 10% is only 4:1. In America it's 15:1, for reference.

      In short: yay for work ethic.

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    8. Re:Non-greedy executive? by Old+Telco+Guy · · Score: 1
      In short: yay for work ethic.

      That's work ethic? I thought work ethic was when you worked 60 hours a week for 40 hours pay.

    9. Re:Non-greedy executive? by Nept · · Score: 4, Informative

      Chief executives at U.S. companies that shipped jobs overseas won a 46 percent pay hike last year, more than five times the average CEO raise. If the U.S. minimum wage had increased as quickly as CEO pay has since 1990, it would be $15.76 an hour instead of the current $5.15. CEO pay overall was 301 times higher than the $26,899 earned by the average production worker. The pay for CEOs who outsource was about 3,300 times the pay of an Indian call center employee or 1,300 times that of an average Indian computer programer.

      Ref:
      Title: U.S. CEOs Who Outsource Get Bigger Pay Hike-Survey
      Source: Reuters
      Author: Andrea Hopkins

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    10. Re:Non-greedy executive? by -kertrats- · · Score: 1

      But that's the 99th percentile, not the 90th. He said top 10%, which I'm guessing is a lot more down to earth than that-somewhere in the low six digits, if I had to guess.

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    11. Re:Non-greedy executive? by mrscorpio · · Score: 1

      Don't let your "facts" get in the way of a good leftist anti-capitalist flame session ;)

    12. Re:Non-greedy executive? by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      Wow... i'm impressed... when was the last time any other executive ever gave up a multi-million dollar severance package with the advice "it's best spent on something other than me"

      As a 10% stockholder, chances are he will be reaping financial benefits from this action; it's nothing more than a long-term view.

      That's the purpose of giving stock to board members and CEOs and so forth - it gives them a long-term interest, rather than focussing them on the bonusses associated with short-term gains.

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  4. Eat the cherries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    Perhaps his health is in decline? It's hard to imagine that anything else could push him to retire.

    A few powerups and he'll be back.

  5. Well there it is then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mr. Yamauchi is going and so ends an era. No doubt, for a time Nintendo got too big for their boots although I have little pity when Nintendo originallly screwed Sony way back and made fools out of them.

    However times changed, audienced moved on. Sony moved forward, Nintendo stood still. A stream of half baked products didn't help them and the once mighty Nintendo who simply ruled the home console market for so long became part of the past. Of course M$ didn't help much either. Difficult to know what to feel, I always got the impression Yamauchi was a bit an ol' stick in the mud and not a particularly nice person.

    1. Re:Well there it is then by CSMastermind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know I never liked Yamauchi but I respect the man for what he was able to do. Your observations about the game industry are slighly off base. You're right times did change. Still Nintendo wasn't standing still. More 64's were sold than super nintendos believe it or not. It's simply that Sony opened up NEW markets. They found people who had never owned a gaming console and they sold to them. At first they fudged the numbers to try and make their console look better. They orginally marketed the PS2 as a cheap DVD player. In fact, the fact that they included a DVD player and the Dreamcast didn't have one was proablly a big reason that Sony went down so hard in those console wars. Nintendo's marketshare may be a shadow of it's former self but I wouldn't go counting them down and out. On a side note, god bless microsoft (bet I just offened 80% of slashdot with that). But I mean it. I'm thankfull for the X-Box. It's a good concept and god forbid it's by an American company. I hope they crush Sony in the next round of consoles and I'm pretty sure that if they do they'll do it with better games (they already have better hardware) so everyone will win.

    2. Re:Well there it is then by CSMastermind · · Score: 1

      http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date= 2005-02-05 Check it out, you might be able to relate.

    3. Re:Well there it is then by tofucubes · · Score: 1
      Nintendo just never got the nerve to sell to the graphics obsessed gamer. It's really a shame because I think they would be so much bigger if they did.

      I just think great graphics and gameplay that isn't awful, but does not have to be great will normally sell games to MANY MANY people that and some good marketing.

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    4. Re:Well there it is then by happymedium · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nintendo originallly screwed Sony way back and made fools out of them

      Yes, Nintendo did quit the Playstation-as-SNES-addon deal, but that probably ended up being the best thing that ever happened to Sony. You can hardly say the Big N "made fools out of them."

      I agree with your assessment of Yamauchi, though. He seemed very pompous, feeling personally betrayed by Squaresoft's decision to start producing for the PS, when in fact the CD format was the only way they could have done justice to FFVII's story and scope. Nintendo is still playing catch-up to recover from the decisions he made and the crucial bridges he burned.

    5. Re:Well there it is then by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the console manufacturers are going to have a hard time this go-round basing their consoles on horsepower and pixel-pushing. Sure there will be that contingent of people who always have to have "the best', but if Nintendo's any indication (particularly in the handheld market) it's that gameplay is the key, not hardware.

      The thing that killed the Dreamcast was the Microsoft tactic of "wait! Our console will slice bread, give you sex anytime you want, and make a lifelong companion!" Sony hyped the SNOT out of the PS2, and people waited. That waiting crushed Sega's strapped financials enough that it couldn't launch a counterattack when the PS2 did come out (with shitty launch titles and less than advertised power.) I don't know if Sony can do that twice in its lifetime. We'll have to see. If they can, the XBox will suffer in sales while people "wait" for the next big thing from Sony.

      But back to my original point. You can have the best console numbers in terms of raw horsepower in the world, but if you don't have a library of games people want to play, you're not going to go very far. Microsoft's console may be more powerful, but with the exception of a few titles, Sony's got the big games and developers wrapped up. Microsoft's getting a Square game (rumors, I think. Has it been confirmed?) And if that's the case, it might be the coup of the century.

      Maybe I'm way off base, but I think we're going to see the graphical "leaps and bounds" start to slow down this next generation of consoles, just like CPU speed's no longer becoming a huge update every 18 months. It's not necessarily engineering limitations, but there's only so real you can make something before people aren't 'wowed' by your creations anymore. The hook of "more lifelike" whatever might not hook that many who are satisfied with the tons of games and tons of things for the current consoles. I mean, who has time to play all the library of games for these machines?

      PSX -> PS2 (big leap)... PS2 -> XBox a lesser leap (but one nonetheless, with XBox's powerful hardware compared to the PS2) PS2 -> PS3 Not such a huge leap.

      XBox -> XBox Next? I'm betting it will be less than a huge leap too.

      Eh, I'm just rambling. It might be that the new consoles are the shiznit. I just don't have a feeling they will be.

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    6. Re:Well there it is then by despisethesun · · Score: 1

      Just FYI, the GC is generally considered to be more powerful hardware than the PS2, and the graphics are usually better than comparable PS2 titles.

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    7. Re:Well there it is then by Halcyon-X · · Score: 1

      Er no, the original PlayStation was designed by Sony (as was the SNES sound chip) for Nintendo, who had also contracted Philips to do the same, which was why they ended up with egg on their faces when both went on to make their own consoles. Philips were able to get compensation by having officially licensed Nintendo games on their CD-I, but they were very poor games, the only redeeming quality were the Mario and Zelda licenses they used.

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    8. Re:Well there it is then by Zigg · · Score: 1

      Just one note:

      Microsoft's getting a Square game (rumors, I think. Has it been confirmed?) And if that's the case, it might be the coup of the century.

      Actually, Microsoft is getting two Mist Walker games. Mist Walker is a new studio run by the guy who invented Final Fantasy.

      Mist Walker is also working on a strategy RPG for DS. Frankly, they smell to me like a studio that rents the name of their famous founder... but we'll see how they perform.

    9. Re:Well there it is then by PyroMosh · · Score: 1

      At the time that both machines were current hardware, I followed the SNES / Genesis battle closely in the magazines (I wish I had them to refrence her, but they are unfortunatly in a crate in my mom's attic in annother state right now).

      If memory serves, the SNES / Super Famicom out sold the Genesis / Mega Drive around the same time that Ninendo's library of games grew larger than Sega's.

      The only figures I could find regarding total world wide sales were here.

      36 Million Confirmed SNES / Super Famicom sales (not including the redesigned SNES2)

      21 Million Confiemed Genesis / Mega Drive sales.

      I'm not sure where you're getting your data from, but every source I've ever seen since Saturn came out has shown Nintendo won the 16 Bit war (even if they were late to it).

    10. Re:Well there it is then by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

      It is considered to be more powerful, and that's part of the problem. Far too many of Nintendo's games look like they were ported from the N64 (which is often true). And even their flagship titles like Super Mario Sunshine are pretty far from impressive when it comes to graphics and art. Third parties have obviously done some amazing things with the hardware, but Nintendo of Japan really hasn't.

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    11. Re:Well there it is then by DeadScreenSky · · Score: 1

      Mist Walker is also working on a strategy RPG for DS. Frankly, they smell to me like a studio that rents the name of their famous founder... but we'll see how they perform.

      Though it is possible this will end up being true, this kind of thing is growing common in Japan. A lot of awesome developers are starting very small studios who then collaborate with larger studios to finish the games. In some ways more of a Hollywood model.

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    12. Re:Well there it is then by xtracto · · Score: 1

      As GP said, it is the end of a era. I think the end of this era was with the Nintendo 64 , Playstation and Dreamcast (and the others).

      You see, I think Microsoft and Sony are making the best they can, they both entered a new established market (for them) using their own markets power to enter.

      Microsoft played cheap by making a Gaming PC, Sony used what they had from their previous Nintendo short time relation.

      But now, we have seen the old generation competitors vanish, remember Neo-Geo, Sega, Turbo Graphx 16 (spelling?) and the other consoles in the 8 - 16bits generations that was an era, that was the era of the 2D gaming with excellent gameplay and design, with neat new effects that amazed everyone.

      And also there was not a lot of PC gaming, or it was not a viable alternative for everyone

      Now, Nintendo has been here since the old days, they resurrected the buisness (after the Atari 2600 etc generation) so they know the thrends and how to make money.

      As for Sony, although they have made 2 consoles now (PS1 and PS2) I think this new console will be the one showing the fully developed Sony potential. Personally I think Microsoft is losing here because they only have the Xbox (so they are 1 console later) and its new console (XBox 360) will be to MS what PS2 was to Sony, sure it will be profitable but nothing else.

      As for nintendo, for what I have read (sure there are mostly rumors), they will make a completley revolutionary console (pun intented), why? because they have seen they are dying with their current trend, because the competitors are new and if they not evolve they will certainly die.

      Well, now we just have to wait like 15 days for the E3 which is promising to bring outstanding news, I have high hopes for the new Nintendo, personally my last console was the Super Nintendo, I didnt bought anything until the Xbox, which I had for like 6 months and played like 6 different games, then I sold it, my brother bought the PS and PS2 and I played them although I personally play computer games (Hitman, Commandos, Sim city etc.) when I have time but for what I have read about Nintendo Rev, I am looking forward to buy it.

      You can have a look at some nice rumors about the Nintendo in this page.

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    13. Re:Well there it is then by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      The thing that killed the Dreamcast was the Microsoft tactic of "wait! Our console will slice bread, give you sex anytime you want, and make a lifelong companion!"

      Microsoft hadn't even announced the X-Box by the time the Dreamcast's production had ceased. What you're probably (mis)remembering is the often repeated tale about how Sony killed the Dreamcast by announcing the specifications for the PlayStation 2 the day before the Dreamcast release.

      Of course, anyone which remembers Nintendo doing that to Sega at the outset of the 16-bit wars should realize that that alone did not deal the death blow. Many believe the primary motivating factor in the death of the Dreamcast was the lack of software support; you will notice that it was successful for as long as it was the software dominant, and not a moment longer.

      It is often repeated by game developers how good Sony has been to them, in contrast to Nintendo and Sega, and that many of said companies jumped ship specifically because of things like Nintendo's five game a year limit. By contrast, Microsoft is beginning to be as good to developers as Sony has been, and suddenly their shipping software rate is skyrocketting, despite that the platform itself is tanking.

      Coincidence? You be the judge. Still, you can map the depth of Microsoft's in-the-redness directly as a correlation to their software presence by comparison with the PS2, right down to the quarter they were in the black being the only quarter their new software rate surpassed the PlayStation (mostly because of previous delayed titles clearing near-simultaneously.)

      Of course, to topple a giant with the veteran name and experience of Sega, you need quite a bit more than one thing. The saturn/sega 32x debacle comes to mind, as do the early ship dates of the saturn and dreamcast (thereby making the platforms seem to have very little software.) Other missteps are available for inspection too.

      Microsoft didn't exist as a console entity back then. They're no more responsible for the death of the Dreamcast than they are the 2600.

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    14. Re:Well there it is then by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 1

      No. Sony's console was announced and Sega beat Sony to the market by quite a few months. But since Sony had announced the specs over time, people "waited" to see what Sony was going to come up with.

      I never said Microsoft had any hand in the death of Segas console.

      The software support for the Sega platform went to Sony when the Sony people threw money at developers to get "exclusive" deals. Sega had no capital to pursue that.

      I don't believe the sole reason the PS2 won over the Dreamcast was the release timing. But it was a huge factor and a huge "wait and see" attitude by the public is the death knell for a struggling company.

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    15. Re:Well there it is then by mink · · Score: 1

      It may be a lame tech demo, but you either live in your own little reality or you never touched Luigi's Mansion.
      Even more recent titles like Metroid Prime blow away anything that the N64 could dream of.

      The only N64 ports on the Gamecube are the 2 zelda titles, and Animal Crossing (not release on N64 outside Japan so whats the big deal).

      Do you even own/play Nintendo games on this generation?

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  6. Well, at least he's honorable. by PornMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm impressed by not taking money for leaving, unlike a certain Fiorina we all know.

    1. Re:Well, at least he's honorable. by curbion · · Score: 1

      The diffrence between Fiorina and Yamuchi is simple . Yamuchi san may have caused problems towards the end of his reign ,but he was a visionary who took the company to new markets(games). Fiorina on the other hand , took HP from up on high, straight down .

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  7. Domo Arigato ,Mr. YamuchiO! by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Informative

    The man who took nintendo from a local playing card company , to a corperate Behemoth of the Gaming world.
    If it wern't for his foresight , it is likely today the only time you would hear the name nintendo , is if for some reason someone read the manufacturing info on a deck of cards during a game of poker.
    http://www.nintendoland.com.nyud.net:8090/home2.ht m?history/hist1.htm
    Thats a nice quick rundown of the history of the company .

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    1. Re:Domo Arigato ,Mr. YamuchiO! by AndreySeven · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Domo Arigato ,Mr. YamuchiO! by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      Just caught that , i was trying to do them a favour using the coral cach , apears as if the page wasn't freindly towards caching.
      this is the origional link
      http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?history/hist 1.htm

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    3. Re:Domo Arigato ,Mr. YamuchiO! by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Intresting side note to that , the origions of the word/name Nintendo.
      What does the word Nintendo really mean?
      The word Nintendo is composed of 3 Japanese Kanji characters, Nin-ten-do. These characters can be translated into a sentence like: "Heaven blesses hard work" but it can also be taken the mean of something like: "Leave luck to heaven", "we do all that we can, as best we can, and await the results" or "Work hard but in the end it´s in the hands of the heaven". Other suggestions are: "Deep in the mind we have to do whatever we have to do" and some people believe that it stands for: "The house where you leave everything to the heaven/fortune" (A Casino).
      (Thanks again to nintendoland.com)
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    4. Re:Domo Arigato ,Mr. YamuchiO! by thundercatslair · · Score: 1

      It is amazing how each of those translations are so differnt. To really know a language you really have to be immersed in it.

    5. Re:Domo Arigato ,Mr. YamuchiO! by snorklewacker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Even though most asian languages just happen to have a one-syllable word for every syllable in the language, that doesn't mean the reverse is true, that every syllable in a word is related to the single-syllable word. The syllables don't mean anything by themselves. It's like that old saw of "assume" being made up of "ass", "you" (hey it's the syllable, right?), and "me". That bit about the chinese word for "crisis" being formed from "danger" and "opportunity" is basically the same way.

      Of course, the chinese *do* enjoy wordplay, much like that "assume" bit (my favorite silly phrasing is "assuming makes an ass of u and ming"), so you'll sometimes see these patterns "discovered" anyway. One great example is a chinese story that makes perfect sense written down, but read aloud, every word is "Shiu" (with different tonalities). It doesn't make any sense even to Chinese, it's like that "had had had had had had had had" brainteaser ... it's meant to be a sort of tongue twister.

      It doesn't point to some exotic holistic school of thought, just a linguistic principle of economy in assigning common words to single syllables, and even overloading them based on contextual rules that would make Larry Wall blush (and he's got a degree in linguistics).

      Of course, Nintendo is a deliberately coined name, and sort of like "Agilent" (it's "agile" and "talent", right?) so it's certainly meant to convey the gist of some meaning. Given the fact that they made playing cards for like a hundred years before getting into electronics, my guess is on the latter (casino) interpretation.

      But languages aren't (yet) composed entirely of brand names, so try not to read too much meaning into the pieces of words. It's like postmodernism, if you cut everything up into too-small pieces, you have mush, not components.

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    6. Re:Domo Arigato ,Mr. YamuchiO! by tofucubes · · Score: 1
      I think your link doesn't work try http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?history/inde x.htm

      anyway maybe they need to make more games that are mostly "macho type shoot em ups" where your mission was to kill, shot and destroy everything and everybody. - under 1980 http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?history/hist 2.htm

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  8. Game Face by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1, Insightful

    He must have done something really bad - like help Nintendo slip out the eponym slot for "home videogame". Otherwise, he would have taken the huge retirement bonus in more stock at a preferred price (like an option), or just cash with which to buy stock like anyone else. $10M in cash infusion that way could have given the company money to use, perhaps bumping the share price up, while smoothing his transition from prez -> director -> major shareholder. Nobody's that "nice", and I'm sure many others will also be suspicious, which will hurt the company,

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    1. Re:Game Face by Staats · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He's 77 years old and filthy rich. What the hell does he want 10 million dollars for? He's a competitor, always has, always will be, and now he wants his side to win.

    2. Re:Game Face by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Rich people love $10M. The $10M isn't much difference against their $7B (0.14%, a daily fluctuation). As I pointed out, transacting the $10M in stock would have made them all look better. He's getting kicked out, and paying a price.

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    3. Re:Game Face by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      He owns a tenth of the company. If the reinvestment of the money which would have been granted him makes itself back ten times over before he dies, which is virtually guaranteed, he makes a net profit.

      It's simple business sense.

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    4. Re:Game Face by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      If he had taken the money in stock, he'd own more, and the necessary multiple would be lower. It's even simpler than you say.

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  9. Re:Bye Yamauchi by FidelCatsro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps he should have retierd sooner , but without him , chances are Nintendo would today still be selling paper-backed playing cards

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  10. Re:Bye Yamauchi by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Funny

    But .. they are still selling playing cards, like the Pokémon Trading Card game. :)

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  11. Not sad... by ZephyrXero · · Score: 1

    Personally, I was pretty happy/excited when I heard he was retiring. This guy might have done great things for the company way back when, but the last 10 years or so of his career were awful. The day I read the interview with him where he pretty much says "Screw Square, we don't need them!", I knew why Nintendo was slipping towards failure. I can only hope the new pres. will be able to repair the damage this guy did...

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    1. Re:Not sad... by ZephyrXero · · Score: 1

      No, it was for real, and with a reputable magazine...

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    2. Re:Not sad... by aichpvee · · Score: 1

      Might have done awful things for the company's marketshare, and arguably its fans, but can't really say it's been bad for the company. They still make great games, great hardware, and giant piles of loot.

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    3. Re:Not sad... by ZephyrXero · · Score: 1

      Jeez...making me have to look up sources to cite...lol The interview I was refferring to came out via Bloomberg in early 2001. Here's a gamespot article about it: http://www.gamespot.com/news/2001/01/29/news_26798 92.html

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    4. Re:Not sad... by qurk · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure he was quoted saying nearly the same thing right before Square moved Final Fantasy 7 over to ps1... Bonehead, but I'm pretty happy how it turned out. Ended up only playing a n64 like 5 times total in my life..may pick one up cheap soon.

  12. Re:Bye Yamauchi by Maul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your statement would be insightful except for the fact that Nintendo is a profitable company.

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  13. Re:Bye Yamauchi by CSMastermind · · Score: 1

    Those are made by Wizards of the Coast (also the makers of Magic: The Gathering). While the orginal concept for pokemon comes from Nintendo. For the most part Nintendo doesn't influence the card game and other than royalites they don't get money from them.

  14. A Genius by warmgun · · Score: 5, Informative
    Maybe he was responsible for some of Nintendo's Microsoft-esque strong arm tactics with distributors and publishers, but Nintendo is still a very profitable company, despite being #2 or #3 in the console race, much due to his leadership. Can Microsoft say that about their videogames division? Nintendo is going to be here for a long time to come and it's all due to Yamauchi-san. He will be missed.

    Just FYI, did you know he's the largest shareholder of the Seattle Mariners?

    1. Re:A Genius by seamarfan · · Score: 1

      Was the largest shareholder of the Seattle Mariners. Nintendo of America now owns the 54% of the team that was his. This happened about 10 months ago. Either way though, the man helped save baseball in Seattle, which makes him a well liked person here.

  15. Not worried... by ChrisHanel · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure this is just a move to free up his schedule for more Donkey Konga.

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  16. Re:Bye Yamauchi by aliquis · · Score: 1

    ok, falling into the ground then, they aren't as big as they was.

  17. Re:Bye Yamauchi by Schnapple · · Score: 1
    chances are Nintendo would today still be selling paper-backed playing cards
    You mean like these?
  18. Re:Bye Yamauchi by BinaryOpty · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, Nintendo took back the card making rights from WotC about a couple of years ago right after the invent of Pokemon-e. (here's a link to a news story)

  19. Yamauchi wants Nintendos to make movies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yamauchi's last major decision at Nintendo was to get the company into animated films. http://www.joystiq.com/entry/2511842316440486/ This may be a good idea. PlayStation marginalized Nintendo's consoles, and PSP will probably marginalize Nintendo's handhelds. But if Nintendo makes CG movies in house, they could do Pixar quality animation with Ghibli-quality stories at under half of Pixar's production budget.

    Admittedly, Yamauchi wants Nintendo's first movie(s) to be about some ancient Japanese poems, but that may just be some personal favor he's asking the company to do for him, since his hobby is Go and other old Japanese stuff. After that, Nintendo will probably start adapting their games into movies, as well as making original movie franchises.

    Nintendo is a relatively small company that can't hold onto an established market once cash-rich conglomerates like Sony and Microsoft set their sights on it. Nintendo is best at creating and exploding new markets that nobody else believes in. They did it with the NES. They did it with Game Boy. They did it by bringing Pokemon to USA (in 1996, Nintendo Power itself predicted that Pokemon was too foreign to become popular in USA). Soon, Nintendo might do it again. This time with movies.

    1. Re:Yamauchi wants Nintendos to make movies. by mister_slim · · Score: 1

      My take on this is that Nintendo realized their primary assets are their name and their creative staff. They don't have Microsoft's money, they don't have Sony's other business, but they have the best videogame hardware and software designers. It is in their best interest to shake up the industry as much as possible because they are better positioned to capitalize on it. MS and Sony have a tendency to focus group everything, while Nintendo will just jump in feet first. The trick is getting third parties to follow along.

    2. Re:Yamauchi wants Nintendos to make movies. by MMeldrum · · Score: 1

      It is in their best interest to shake up the industry as much as possible because they are better positioned to capitalize on it. MS and Sony have a tendency to focus group everything, while Nintendo will just jump in feet first. The trick is getting third parties to follow along.

      That's a good point, although 'back in the day' (pre-PSX?) the third parties were also relatively small and the costs of making a game were much smaller.

      That made it much easier for the third parties to be flexible and take risks with new technologies. These days those same companies are more concerned with playing safe and not sinking $XXm into a project that doesn't pay off.

      It would be interesting to have a chart of the top games for each console and how much they cost to produce. Even the 'cookie-cutter' sequels need graphics artists etc. so they probably still cost a fair bit to produce.

    3. Re:Yamauchi wants Nintendos to make movies. by Bongo+Bill · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm not sure where you're coming from to imply that Nintendo's sales are "marginalized" (last I checked, five million DS units sold is not indicative of marginalization, nor is a 37% overall market share), and you must of course realize that although it is a "relatively small company" when compared to Sony and Microsoft, it is certainly not small on any objective scale.

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    4. Re:Yamauchi wants Nintendos to make movies. by evilviper · · Score: 1
      They did it with the NES. They did it with Game Boy.

      They did it with the Virtual Boy... whoops!
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    5. Re:Yamauchi wants Nintendos to make movies. by Rod+Beauvex · · Score: 1

      Excellent burn, but the grandparent still has a very valid point. :)

    6. Re:Yamauchi wants Nintendos to make movies. by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure where you're coming from to imply that Nintendo's sales are "marginalized" (last I checked, five million DS units sold is not indicative of marginalization, nor is a 37% overall market share)

      Funny point. the margins on a default page in openoffice here is over an inch on all sides, the percentage of page space being dedicated to margins is at least 37% overall. :-)

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  20. *Opens mouth and insterts foot* by CSMastermind · · Score: 1

    Thanks, for the link, I stand corrected.
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  21. Well, I mean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Something to look at here is exactly how much Nintendo is making off of Pokemon outside of just the actual Pokemon video games. Between the cards and the tv show and the movies, Nintendo hasn't followed the traditional paths of either making a video game and pushing it/merchandising it in the media, or a media event like a movie with a video game made about it. They've made a media phenomenon that just happens to incorporate both television media and video game aspects. And it's worked well. It might make sense to do that in other areas besides just that of ugly yellow rats that shoot lightning.

    Something to note is that Nintendo is slowly more and more buying up Bandai. This is the company that makes Dragonball Z. I see this as having interesting implications. You might not. :)

  22. A new era for the big N by wobedraggled · · Score: 1

    Hiroshi Yamauchi is basically Nintendo's version of Eisner at Disney, he brought them to the top and then slammed them back down. He was just using old buisness practices that were outmoded, with so much going on at Nintendo now with the DS and Revolution hopefully this will be a brand new age for them.

    Iwata will do a fine job, and Reggie will actually be able to kick ass and take names now ;)

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  23. Re:So what if he retires? No change in attitude. by mister_slim · · Score: 1, Troll

    And the same stubborness and lack of reality that allowed them to rebuild and reinvent the game industry in the '80s. What exactly should they be doing differently? Losing money? Killing hookers? Forcing the industry into stasis?

  24. Re:retires with seven billion or so, eh by e1618978 · · Score: 2, Funny

    And if it wasn't for people like him, we would all be starving. People who get rich by making the world a better place, and by creating jobs, deserve the money that they get.

  25. 1949 eh? by nasotm · · Score: 1

    the article that link goes to says he was president from 1949 to 2002....1949?? Asians must have slowed the aging process cause Hiroshi still looks fairly young to me. :)

  26. I believe I speak for all slashdot when I say... by notthe9 · · Score: 1

    ... he's still alive?

  27. I think stockpiling 7 billion is a good idea by tofucubes · · Score: 1

    especially with microsoft entering the market and try to outspend everyone... I think nintendo is worried if it followed microsoft's strategy it might end up like Sega

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  28. About time. by SteveXE · · Score: 1

    He did a great job running Nintendo through the 90's but he's the reason they are falling so far behind, he's the one who tells us what we want instead of listening to the gamer. Im glad to see him go, Maybe now Nintendo will regain some market share and stop with all the BS.

    1. Re:About time. by stonecypher · · Score: 1

      He did a great job running Nintendo through the 90's but he's the reason they are falling so far behind

      Actually, he's the reason they passed Microsoft up almost a year ago, with the drop of the GameCube to $100. Nintendo has closed the console gap with Sony to 7:1, the lowest it's been in six years.

      Nintendo's catching up, fast, not falling behind.

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  29. Re:So what if he retires? No change in attitude. by jasonditz · · Score: 1

    As much as I agree with you, I'd pay good money to see Mario kill a hooker or two.

  30. 80's? 90's? by taxevader · · Score: 1

    I think you meant he did a great job running Nintendo through the 80's. The 90's would have been a disaster for Nintendo if it hadnt been for Pokemon, which in turn kept the game boy afloat and resurrected (for a while at least) the N64. Pokemon has been Nintendo's biggest money maker since Mario, who frankly hasn't been doing much since Mario64. Except for sitting in his cellar 'cleaning his pipes' so to speak... Sounds a bit like a slashdotter actually 8)

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    1. Re:80's? 90's? by SteveXE · · Score: 1

      True that made big money, but Nintendo needs the money of an older audience to survive. Companies are making less and less games for Nintendo systems, a 2 generation deep trend that Nintendo cant afford if it happens next gen. Like you said, alot of quick money but in the long run they were shooting themselves by only catering mainly to 12 and under.

  31. Re:Bye Yamauchi by YesIAmTheMan · · Score: 1

    I don't think Yamauchi necessarily drove Nintendo into the ground, but his rigid business politics did severely hurt Nintendo's market-share when Sony entered the console gaming arena. I think he underestimated Sony, and I wouldn't attribute Nintendo's gaming success to his management. That honor belongs to Miyamoto. Yamauchi was just smart enough to recognize someone with talent.

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  32. Re:retires with seven billion or so, eh by e1618978 · · Score: 1

    You think that the playing card company would have become a gaming giant without him? I think not. Every time you play a nintendo game, you should be thanking him - without his risk taking, gaming today would not be nearly as good.

  33. Re:Bye Yamauchi by stonecypher · · Score: 1

    My opinion is that Nintendo's real "without this man there would be no company" person was Gumpei Yokoi.

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  34. Re:yay by stonecypher · · Score: 1

    bullshit, money has ZERO relation to fun. and games are fundamentally about fun. take a game like warioware for DS..quite the fun game, yet it didnt cost a fortune to make like GTA San AnSHITTYdreas.

    WarioWare Touched cost roughly eight times what Mario Party 3 did to make, despite having roughly half as many games.

    All the best intentions in the world don't make up for false statistics. Just because you don't think it takes money to make a game doesn't mean it doesn't actually take money to make a game; surprisingly, the industry has good businesspeople involved (most industries making double what hollywood does do, y'know) and would trim the fat if indeed there were fat to trim.

    Besides, what does it matter what GTA cost to make? Dollar for dollar invested it's one of the most profitable games in history, obscene exceptions like Tetris aside.

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