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Microsoft Taps Bloggers to Promote Longhorn

Tim writes "With Beta 1 of Longhorn less than two months away, Microsoft is looking at a new marketing tool to help promote its new Windows: bloggers. According to BetaNews, Microsoft's "Team 99" evangelism effort will be composed of bloggers that will become Microsoft's voice to the masses. Robert Scoble said Team 99 was once secret, but has been revived and Microsoft is now accepting nominations. It's nice to see Microsoft recognizing the power of blogs, but the move is likely going to draw accusations that Redmond is trying to buy off bloggers to hype Longhorn."

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  1. A little bit of history by Raul654 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Microsoft doesn't have the best record in this area, having been caught astroturfing numerous times. At least when you read an 'official' blog, you are aware that you are getting cooperate propaganda.

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  2. Shills by teiresias · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whoever is part of this "Team 99" will be consider shills and rightly so. There's one thing using the Internet to express your point of view. It's quite another to extol a companies product for their backing.

    If this group was treated as an unbiased reviewers, I'd have more sympathy but as it is, it seems just another corrupted media.

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    1. Re:Shills by JPelorat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Eh.. anyone with a positive outlook on Longhorn is gonna get called a shill (especially here), their contract status with Microsoft notwithstanding.

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    2. Re:Shills by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If this group was treated as an unbiased reviewers, I'd have more sympathy but as it is, it seems just another corrupted media.

      If you RTFA, it appears that they're well aware of the drubbing they took from their last showing to a handful of bloggers, and are expecting the annointed "team 99" crowd to expressly do more of the same, as they get feedback from the wider community. If the software is crap, what possible good will it do MS to pump up demonstrably false notions about the presence or absence of a feature, only to have it turn out not to be true when everybody gets to look at the release? They seem to be going to a lot of trouble to announce, well in advance, that they're going to skip over certain features, or delay others. The bloggers will be an echo chamber for some of that, and a feedback channel. Other than the NDA (which presumably these folks will actually read before signing!), I don't sense any means by which MS would be able to make someone convey a better impression of the OS than they've personally experienced. I work with an MS partner (our firm sells accounting apps and does large scale systems integration, among other things), and we play very much the same role - we scream at MS when end users scream at us, and we preach the solutions when we're comfortable with them ourselves.

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  3. Mistake by dtfinch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a good idea to recruit bloggers to advertise your product.
    It's not a good idea to publicize that you're doing it.

    1. Re:Mistake by ssj_195 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It never ceases to amaze me how, despite its vast wealth, Microsoft somehow manages to hire the absolute worst PR department in the world. Whether they are threatening to sue penniless Biochem students who have broken none of their laws or EULAs, flagrantly inventing people and their pro-microsoft testimonials, or making thinly veiled threats to whole countries about what will happen if they switch to Linux, their cack-handedness and lack of any kind of sophistication, subtlety or sensitivity simple boggles the mind.

      Having said that, per your original point - the PR nightmares that stem from being caught astro-turfing are worse than if you publicly announce that that is what you are doing in advance. It's still a really dumb idea, though. Oh well.

    2. Re:Mistake by drsquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Worst PR department? They've managed to keep a relatively clean reputation despite releasing countless shitty, worthless operating systems. Even their latest and greatest XP is full of flaws, and needs constant service packs to prevent it falling to pieces. Yet people will be queueing up to buy this next one. Sounds like a great PR department to me. This blogging thing will probably be a success.

    3. Re:Mistake by learn+fast · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, how many gmail invites did you request or give out via your blog?

      Just an observation that most bloggers I know or read were ingeniously suckered into giving gmail free advertising.

  4. Astroturf, Anyone? by MrAnnoyanceToYou · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There was an article posted less than a week ago about PR companies harnessing bloggers.... Gee, maybe Microsoft DOES read Slashdot.

    1. Re:Astroturf, Anyone? by jericho4.0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll second this. Some pro-MS comments seem straight out of a brochure, and I have a really hard time imagining someone with technical knowledge actually saying what they say.

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  5. Likely? by JohnTheFisherman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... It's nice to see Microsoft recognizing the power of blogs, but the move is likely going to draw accusations that Redmond is trying to buy off bloggers to hype Longhorn."

    That's a safe bet - MS could release a patch for XP that cured cancer and they'd still be accused of doing something underhanded. ;)

  6. Re:Free Advertising by geoffspear · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's not free advertising, and it's not opinion.

    It's paid-for advertising maskerading as opinion. It's misleading and unethical, and incredibly stupid of them to admit they're going to do it.

    I, for one, after reading this, wouldn't trust the opinion of anyone who says in their blog that they like Longhorn; who's to say whether they actually used it and thought it was good, or if Microsoft paid them to lie about it?

    All this does is create an environment where you can assume that bad reviews are probably objective, and that good reviews are quite possibly just advertising.

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  7. Is this the same Microsoft... by hazee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that just the other day was reported as threatening people who posted screenshots of Longhorn?

    Which is it to be? Do they want it publicised or not?

    No, let me guess; only favourable publicity.

  8. Sure, I'll blog about Longhorn ... by Buran · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... and how much more I prefer working on my Mac. I don't outright refuse to use Windows - I've used all three major platforms - I just honestly and simply do prefer OS X. Lack of security headaches is a large part of that. MS still hasn't been able to keep the crackers out. When they totally redo their OS to be more secure, I'll feel more comfortable about using it.

  9. Time of Death: 10:30 AM EST, 2 May 2005 by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "It's nice to see Microsoft recognizing the power of blogs, but the move is likely going to draw accusations that Redmond is trying to buy off bloggers to hype Longhorn."

    Blogging was nice while it lasted. Corporations are quickly going to flood the channel with paid content. If you think the PR machine is powerful in major media, which has lots of people looking for bias, has some regulation, and which does not see $10,000 as any more than pocket change, think what's going to happen to blogs over the next five years.

    Suppose Coca-Cola offered to pay Joe Blogpack $2,500 to do a column talking about a dead rat found in a storage container at a Pepsi bottling facility, how quickly do you think he would jump? Do you think he would care if the story is true? And if he did, would he have access to the resources to find out if it's true? Suppose news.google.com is running 200 links to other bloggers who didn't take the time to fact check - our honorable Joe Blogpack checks his facts against the tainted stories and even thinks he's doing the right thing.

    1. Re:Time of Death: 10:30 AM EST, 2 May 2005 by faust2097 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Suppose Coca-Cola offered to pay Joe Blogpack $2,500 to do a column talking about a dead rat found in a storage container at a Pepsi bottling facility, how quickly do you think he would jump? Do you think he would care if the story is true? And if he did, would he have access to the resources to find out if it's true? Suppose news.google.com is running 200 links to other bloggers who didn't take the time to fact check - our honorable Joe Blogpack checks his facts against the tainted stories and even thinks he's doing the right thing.

      And this, kids, is the difference between 'reporting' and 'journalism'. We've just had our standards lowered by the willingness of our mainstream media to report anything - rumors, opinions, lightly edited press releases, as "news" and run on to the next hot topic and pray that you don't change the channel during the ads.

      Blogging isn't going to replace journalism because of these exact problems. Blogging might do a lot of harm to the mainstream US news media but it's their own damn fault for abandoning true journalism and resorting to showing the same video clip everyone else has, just 2 minutes earlier and with more sensationalistic or opinionated commentary.

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  10. Re:Free Advertising by Strudelkugel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shocking! Shocking! A blogger might have an agenda? Next thing you know, there will be gambling in the casino, and prayer in the church...

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  11. Linux isn't proprietary... by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... the fact that Slashdot hypes it up is hardly surprising. If anything burns Microsoft it is that Slahsdot, a ton of other geek sites on the net and an army of bloggers hyped up Apple's OS.X 'Tiger' a proprietary OS without Apple having to pay them off.

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  12. Re:So what? by kbmccarty · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Slashdot has been doing the same for Linux

    People are getting paid to hype up Linux on Slashdot? Funny, they must have forgotten to mail my check...

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  13. "No secret stuff anymore" "sign an NDA" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Now, before today, Team 99 was secret. I've learned from my messups with Jim Allchin's dinner not to do secret stuff anymore. Make everything transparent. Transparency is good. [...]All will need to sign NDAs cause there are things in Longhorn that we don't want to leak out, but they'll be your proxies.

    WTF!!!!! They won't do secret stuff, but they legally obligate their volunteer shills to do secret stuff!!!! That's very funny.

    Remember, you can't spell propoganda without NDA.

  14. Re:Longhorn Rocks! by killjoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are doing it all wrong. YOu have to say something like this...

    "I really like linux but lets face it it's not ready for grandma. Nobody wants to compile a kernel just to make a game work and besides gimp is not nearly good as photoshop. Oh and autocad doesn't run on linux.

    Windows used suck but it's never crashed on me since 2000 came out and let's face it XP has solved all the security issues with windows.

    I love linux and sometimes its fun to spend five hours messing with config files but I use windows when I just want to get things done. "

    The trick is to pretend you like linux while saying bad things about it.

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