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Live Picture of the Next Xbox

n0ethics writes "A live picture of the Xbox 360 was leaked from Microsoft's Xbox 360 launch party held last night. The culprit appears to be a privately-owned cameraphone. Engadget Reports... Also included in the leak was the new Xbox Live headset, a new Xbox 360 controller and the new Eye-toy-ish Xbox 360 peripheral. Now the question is: was this intentional, or should we fear Bill?"

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  1. wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do they call it a "live picture"? What is "live" about it? What does that mean, if anything? And why do people keep regurgitating it even though it doesn't mean anything?

    1. Re:wtf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why do they call it a "live picture"?

      TFA says "real live picture". "real live" is an English idiom. The submitter probably didn't understand it.

  2. Hello 1992 by bbzzdd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Looks like a standard Micro-ATX case. Can't really tell if it's much smaller than the current Xbox either.

    My guess is they were trying to go iPod with the white, but gosh, it's hopelessly not sexy.

    1. Re:Hello 1992 by TheHonestTruth · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I bet you were the same people that complained about the original xbox controller. That thing was the most comfertable controller

      If you are a Sasquatch. The S-Controller is much much better to the average non-yeti-sized human.

      -truth

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    2. Re:Hello 1992 by vsprintf · · Score: 2, Funny

      I hate you jackasses, I bet you were the same people that complained about the original xbox controller. That thing was the most comfertable controller

      What, the controller police came and took yours away because people complained about it? The last I heard, they were still making both styles, but I don't really follow Xbox news that closely, since I use the better console.

    3. Re:Hello 1992 by Starsmore · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought the typical X-Box user didn't care about performance either, just getting their new copy of last year's Madden game with this years roster.

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    4. Re:Hello 1992 by Khuffie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As opposed to the typical PS2 user?

    5. Re:Hello 1992 by wvitXpert · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't think it's going to be white. It looks like it will have designs printed on it. http://www.ourcolony.net/images/logos/37943.jpg

    6. Re:Hello 1992 by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Some Apple hardware is ugly. The older plastic G4 PowerMacs are a prime example, along with the original cinema displays. The current Powermacs are less hideous, but still big and ugly. The Mac Mini is also pretty ugly, but it gains points for being small. In short, we have the following partial list:

      Good looking:
      20" Cinema Display
      12" Powerbooks and iBooks
      17" G5 iMac
      iPod Shuffle

      Not Bad:
      Mac Mini
      14" Powerbooks and iBooks
      Original iPod
      G4 Cube

      Ugly only because they are too large:
      G5 Powermacs
      20" iMacs
      30" Cinema Display
      17" Powerbook

      Just plain fucking ugly:
      gumdrop iMacs
      clamshell iBooks
      older Cinema Displays
      eMacs in general
      iPod Mini (barf tones)
      G4 Powermacs

      Let the flames begin!

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    7. Re:Hello 1992 by Skrybe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You got that right. If I'm going to buy a console I want one of two things - a standard size and shape unit that will slot nicely in with my other home entertainment components, or something that looks cool so I don't mind it sitting on my coffee table. Not something that looks like a kinda crappy small PC.

      Looks like they've tried to go for some style by making it curved and standing it upright. Pity that makes it unstable. There were so many people crying about the old xbox falling on people (mainly cos it was so heavy). How much easier is it going to be to knock over if it's stood on end?

      I want a console that's a nice brushed aluminium DVD player sized "box".

    8. Re:Hello 1992 by Elranzer · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least it's not as ugly as the PlayStation2. God, I have to insert discs into that console with a mirror, it's so ugly.

  3. No worries by Electroly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Microsoft has gone batshit crazy with astroturfing the Xbox 360 so far. (Ourcolony?) If the leak wasn't planned by them, I'd bet they at least don't really care.

    1. Re:No worries by ymgve · · Score: 2, Interesting

      SOME reason? Might NOT be true? Read the goddamn wikipedia entry about Orcolony!
      There's no doubt it's connected to Microsoft and the new Xbox, since the site several times have revealed pictures of the new console as rewards for solving the challenges. Also, astroturfing is not the same as viral marketing, which is what Ourcolony actually is.

    2. Re:No worries by ymgve · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Typo, the link got swallowed: wikipedia entry

    3. Re:No worries by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Informative

      This isn't astroturfing, it's "normal" viral marketing. Astroturfing would be MS employees coming into this article to post comments praising MS, but ourcolony has never denied that MS is backing them (that I'm aware of, at least).

  4. White?! by NekoXP · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks like it'll go really well next to an iMac :)

    Neko

  5. Intentional trade-secret trap? by game+kid · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Now the question is: was this intentional, or should we fear Bill?
    ...or should we fear Bill because the snap was intentional?
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  6. Better by bsharitt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    at least it's less bulky and ugly than the first one.

  7. OMG!! by LibertineR · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Did you say that was from Apple? Oh, its gorgeous!!!

    What was that? It's from Microsoft? Well, that is the ugliest piece of crap I have ever seen!!!

    1. Re:OMG!! by vsprintf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Microsoft make very atractive looking mice (which makes me wonder why they didn't get the people behind those desings to work on the xbox s60, if they did then im at a loss).

      Breeding mice is a lot easier than breeding gaming consoles.

    2. Re:OMG!! by soulhuntre · · Score: 2, Insightful

      On the topic of a portable flash MP3 player....

      "It's from Apple? My god it has revolutionized the way music is heard... I never knew a forced random play mode coudl change my life"

      "Hey, is that the MS thing? God those guys are so stupid all they coudl do is put it on shuffle. I mean seriously, they think we are too stupid to control our own music. Besides, these have been out for years".

      I think the level of Apple fanboy postings on /. is a good indicator of how disenchanted with Linux peopel are getting - and they desperately need to keep up their rebel self image.

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  8. Well by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At least its a moderately original design, they realised their original Xbox model was too bulky, and have redesigned to make it smaller.

    We all have to remember, it's not how it looks, it's how it plays that counts, and I hope thats what will make people buy it.

    1. Re:Well by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, it's original if you've never seen a dell optiplex desktop case before. Otherwise this case design is pathetic.

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    2. Re:Well by Stonent1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      The item in question: Dell

  9. Talk about jumping version numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    where are the Xboxen 3 to 359?

    1. Re:Talk about jumping version numbers by balster+neb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Same place where Windows 4 to 94, 96 and 97, and 99 to 1999 are. Dunno where. :(

      And this Windows 2000 to Windows XP thing is just too confusing :(. I mean, Windows 2001 to ......

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  10. Microsoft is Bipolar by dj245 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And like a long list of celebrities including Tiger Woods and Michael Jackson, Microsoft today decided to make the move from Black to White.

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    1. Re:Microsoft is Bipolar by dj245 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Sony did the oposite , They moved from gray/white(playstation and ps1) to black (psp and ps2/playstation 2)

      Which begs the question of what color to make game consoles. Black is 'old and busted', done to death. But it matches most other things on the consumer electronics stack. White is new and shiny, but its almost cliche at this time. Its almost like the Blue LED, an over-done LED color nowadays if ever there was one, just because the technology is available to make something look like it is, does not mean that must be the way things must be built.

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    2. Re:Microsoft is Bipolar by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wood finish is due for a comeback around now . I say we all make them look like LP players from the 1970s

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    3. Re:Microsoft is Bipolar by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's "indigo" to you! :-P

      All the Indigo ones were sold out when I bought my GC, so I had to choose between black and green. I chose the black one, but had there been an orange one, I would not have hesitated in picking that one up instead.

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  11. Re:How is this a 'live picture' by essreenim · · Score: 2, Funny
    This is a day old pic which was on Engadget already.

    An old pic?? But this is /. How is this possible..

  12. Can't wait 'til the new XBox comes out... by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 3, Insightful

    'cos with any luck, that'll mean everyone'll be selling off their old XBoxen, and that means more Linux on the XBox for me. Seriously, can't wait 'til the old ones are $50 a pop...and I also can't wait to see Linux running on the new version.

  13. Vertical by 0olong · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why?

    I hope for M$ it doesn't break when knocked over...

    1. Re:Vertical by bill_kress · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It will. Have you ever noticed that in those displays in k-mart or target or wherever, thie x-box is almost always broken? The ps-2 is down about 50% of the time. I have yet to see a gamecube down.

  14. Headphone jack? by Karl+Tacheron · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Check out the middle inner edge of the controller. Is that a headphone jack? I remember thinking how much of a badass addition that would have been to the original Xbox to have headphone ports on the controller in that same place.

    1. Re:Headphone jack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Press the gem down to get access to Live or something like that.

      <clicks>
      Xbox Gem Activated!
      <clicks>
      Xbox Gem Deactivated!
      <clicks>
      Xbox Gem Activated!
      <clicks>
      Xbox Gem Deactivated!
      <clicks>
      Xbox Gem Activated!
      <clicks>
      Xbox Gem Deactivated!
      ...
      ...
      ...
      <clicks>
      Perfect Gem Activated!

    2. Re:Headphone jack? by Phudman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm guessing that's for the Xbox Live headset.

  15. Now that shit is ugly by vectorian798 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow...this is similar to other screenshots of the XBOX 360 that have been floating around the internet (side view, 3-4th view, etc). Those screenshots can now be found at gamespot's website here.

    I have to say that it will fit in nicer with other electronic equipment that sits on our entertainment center but this seriously lacks a cool factor. Its colors are too passive, and the curves are all way too smooth...replacing the silver finish with a jet-black polished finish alone would make it look ten times better. Oh well. BTW does anyone else think the name XBOX 360 sounds lame?

  16. Controller by kryogen1x · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can you say "Dreamcast Copy"?

  17. Re:Ugly! by Jozer99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It doesn't look so bad. Of course its not a masterpiece of engineering, but Microsoft probably chose that safe white case to make it more appealing to an audience other than hardcore teenage gamers. My concern is that those paperwhite controlers are going to turn a disgusting brown as dirt and skin acids build up over a couple of months. Grey would have been a better choice, cause nobody is gonna want to touch the thing after a year of use.

  18. Comments on that site... by esconsult1 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... Your all morons! If Apple came out with this design everyone would be raving at how genious the design is. The truth is, it looks far better than any console out now, has a very slick contemporary look to it and will look nicely in the living room home theater setup...
    The above quote was taken from the article's site. He kinda has a point too...

  19. Re:Ugly! by moz25 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's a matter of taste, I suppose. Some people have commented that they like the design. Personally, I am not that fond of it either... but then again, I'm not in the market for a game console.

  20. Camera phone? by jim_v2000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe I'm behind on the times, but that seems like one hell of a good picture to be taken from a camera phone.

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    1. Re:Camera phone? by Infinite+Entropy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe it was an imported Japanese 2 megapixel phone! I always wanted one of those.

    2. Re:Camera phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Number of pixels != quality. I've seen terrible photos at 6MP and great ones at 640x480. It's all about the quality of the lens, and there's really no room for a quality lens on a cellular phone.

    3. Re:Camera phone? by toddestan · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most camera phones suffer from small, low quality lenses and no flash. Having a high pixel count is not going to remedy that.

  21. Re:OMG LMAO ur 22222 teh funny!!!11! by imsabbel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just a hint.
    Read the article (the first link) and look at the comments posted to the story.

    I guess he is making fun of those idiots.

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  22. Re:Ugly! by torpor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    to me, it sorta looks like a pippin.

    reeallly .. not .. sure thats a good thing though .. and isn't this supposed to have PPC's in it? sooooper weird ..

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  23. the last controller was a DC copy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It took you how many years to notice?

    See the original Xbox controller (not the later S controller). It is a dead-on copy of the DC, except with no windows for the memory cards to show their displays through.

    For that matter, the entire Xbox was a DC offshoot.

    Look at a Japanese DC, it says on the front "designed for Microsoft Windows CE". Look at a US (later) DC, it says on the front "compatible with Microsoft Windows CE". Early on, MS had made a Win CE API for DC. The DC browser and Sega Rally used it. However, Sega learned that MS had done this with the hope of making their own "super DC" that would be able to run (or at least port) a large number of DC titles, and thus enter the marketplace with a lot of games on day 1. When Sega heard of this, they withdrew the Win CE API for DC to thwart Microsoft.

    So this is why the Xbox controller is so similar to the DC, it was designed to be a "super DC" from the start.

  24. Since when did Apple gain ... by Cheapy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since when did Apple gain exclusive rights to white? Ohmygod! The PS2 and Xbox both are black! They are ripping off ENIAC!

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  25. Re:stop flaming just because you don't like micros by mcleodnine · · Score: 4, Funny
    it looks perfectly fine...

    Exaclty, and I congratulate Apple for releasing this awesome Xbox killer into the gaming console market

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  26. Re:Ugly! by double-oh+three · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not enough emphasis on the ugly. It should be a bit more like this:

    "I have seen the new X-Box, and it is ugly. And I mean UGLY. Take it out back and put it out of it's misery ugly. Hit with not only an ugly stick, but an ugly pole and an ugly mace. It's like they tried to steal Apple's iPod white with none of Apple's design taste. Again, it's ugly. "

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  27. man. by the+italian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    what is it with people saying this looks like an apple product? Just because it is white does not mean it is an apple product. Last time I checked the color white was used on many items. OMG!!! my fridge is so APPL!!!!!!1!11one!!!
    OMG!!! lOLOLOL my toilette is SO APPLE!
    seriously people. Get a grip.

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  28. Alright! More of Microsoft's design "Innovations" by Turken · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let's see here...

    Console: Current Wintel PC technology with Apple's sense of style.

    Controllers: Nintendo already showed us that first party wireless is the way to go. Way to be #2 Microsoft!

    Camera: Oh Look! It's Sony's Eyetoy in white!

    Headset: At last, something borrowed straight from their own previous product. Doesn't look like any innovations were made here though.

    And this is supposed to be the NEXT generation of console gaming?!?

    At least they got the name right... XBox 360! Bringing gaming full circle to where it is today!

  29. Re:Ugly! by Hadlock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Funny; Playstation's nearly white controllers, SNES's white (but purple tinted) controllers, and the PSOne's white controllers never had any issues. Of course they got some grit in the seams, but that's about it. Come to think of it, I've never had any brown-ness occur on any of my white computer mice from the late 80's through early 2000's (I have a silver mouse now - still no brown). All of my friend's iBooks (white) still look..... white. Even the (white) keys. Sounds like you're spreading FUD.

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  30. Zero controller ports! by jimmcq · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those aren't controller ports... those are memory card slots. There are no controller ports, because the controllers are wireless.

    1. Re:Zero controller ports! by WCLPeter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unless the controllers come with a 12 hour play time and 30 second recharge, I honestly think their decision to go with wireless controllers is going to bite Microsoft in the ass.

      People want their controllers and games to "just work".

      Forgot to plug in your controller last night? You just *know* you're going to run out of power when your in first place on your favourite race game. Or when you're about to capture the flag for your team in the latest shooter.

      Use the headset and controller vibration? You'll just drain the batteries even faster.

      Sure, it's a nice idea on paper having the controllers wireless. But that first time your controller dies in the middle of your game making you have to wait four to six hours for it to recharge, you're going to wish you bought a Playstation 3.

      Pete...

  31. PR scam by loveboat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    this smells like a planned PR scam to me. the pics are to hi-res and well-lit to be taken with some crappy mobile phone cam.

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  32. Re:Alright! More of Microsoft's design "Innovation by Matthias+Wiesmann · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Console: Current Wintel PC technology with Apple's sense of style.
    Aren't the processors of this thing supposed to be PPC based? This would disqualify it as wintel technology no? You might as well call it a Mac mini on steroids.
  33. Looks like a Dell by doctor_no · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Xbox360 looks a lot like a white version of the Dell Optiplex GX PCs that can be found in office cubicles everywhere.

    Picture 1
    Picture 2
    Picture 3
    Picture 3

  34. to applease the /. crowd by tofucubes · · Score: 5, Funny

    PR guy 1: "how can we promote our console to the /. crowd?"
    PR guy 2: "we could tell them that it is absolutely impossible to install linux on it."
    PR guy 1: "good idea but we haven't released the console yet."
    PR guy 2: "maybe we could brighten up /.ers' days by painting our console white like apple"
    PR guy 1: "yeah that's great they'll be flaming us for days and talking about every aspect of our product and how it rips off this company and that company."
    PR guy 2: "that and they'll be trying install install linux onto the system"
    - - -
    well it could happen :-P

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  35. Let me guess... by SharpFang · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's no subscription fee.
    You get 2 games a month free.
    The console itself is undersold.

    But the wireless controllers run on proprietary Microsoft batteries which run out of power after 10h of use and you can obtain a new set for $30 from your local Microsoft Golden Partner dealer.

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    1. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      But the wireless controllers run on proprietary Microsoft batteries which run out of power after 10h of use and you can obtain a new set for $30 from your local Microsoft Golden Partner dealer.

      Hey! That sounds more like the Apple console!
      *ducks*

  36. Oh, you guys by realmolo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First of all, it looks fine.

    Secondly, who cares what it looks like? How good are the games?

    I'm just amazed at the hate for Microsoft. The Xbox is the coolest console at the moment. It does pretty much everything right. Shouldn't we be a little excited by the Xbox 360? Isn't competition GOOD?

  37. Re:MS copies Apple AGAIN... by KillShill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it's not like everyone and their dog are releasing white electronics products this year...

    white as a product is plain ugly IMO.

    reminds me of those godawful 50's 60's style garbage they used to sell.

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  38. xbox 360? by not-enough-info · · Score: 2, Funny

    So... this is gonna run all my IBM DOS/360 software right?

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  39. FAKE by spir0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I call bullshit.

    from tfa: Can't tell you how we got our hands on this image, but what you're looking at is a real live shot of the Xbox 360 that someone sneakily snapped with their cameraphone at Microsoft's Xbox360 Revealed launch party in Los Angeles last night.

    several things give it away.

    1. the image quality is too good for a camera phone
    2. they can't tell us, yet they go on to say where it was got and how.
    3. the launch party/reveal was supposed to be live on MTV.
    4. this looks really, I mean really, crap.
    5. if it wasn't a public reveal, MS would have banned cameras and cellphone cameras.

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  40. Re:Ugly! by Jozer99 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Evidently you are a robot, or wear gloves a lot. I work in a school computer lab sometimes, and the paper white apple eMac keyboards are crap colored after two weeks. Even the eMacs themselves start to brown after a little while.

  41. Re:Ugly! by Hadlock · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nah, I just wash my hands once or twice a day :) I do remember the LCIIs having grimy as hell keyboards back in elementary school though.

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  42. Re:compared to XBOX 1 by Pxtl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Idunno, once you get passed the fisher-price appearance, I think the gamecube is decidedly hot. How many consoles have a carrying handle? The PS2 is pretty smooth, I've always thought. Nobody's ever made a sexy controller tho.

  43. Re:Ps3 performance against Xbox2 by LarsWestergren · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ps3 outperforms Xbox2

    Thank you, Zymano, reporter from the future!

    Nothing smacks more of fanboysim than crowing about which product is best even before it and its competitors have been released.

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  44. Re:compared to XBOX 1 by acd294 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nobody's ever made a sexy controller tho.

    I beg to differ.

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  45. Disc Tray x2? by goodenoughnickname · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The width of the black disc tray is around half the size of the console. Using that as a guide, this thing looks only a little smaller than the current XBox. Unless of course that is a laserdisc tray...

    But pictures are never a good indication of size -- I was amazed the first time I saw a tiny PSTwo with my own eyes.