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Get To Know Mach, the Kernel of Mac OS X

An anonymous reader writes "Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. So what is Mac OS X's kernel? The Mach microkernel. The debate around Monolithic (Linux) and Micro (Mach) kernels continues, and there is a great chapter online about the Mach system from the very good book 'Operating System Concepts'. Which design is better? I report, you decide." Warning: link is to a PDF.

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  1. This is a tough fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The apple metrosexuals vs the greasy bearded GNU/linux hippies! Who will win!

    1. Re:This is a tough fight by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 2, Funny

      Who will Win?!?!

      Tune in next week to the same article (poasted at a later dupe-date for your conveinance) and FIND OUT!

      We're also to believe that the Apple Metrosexuals plan to use a hypnotizing-GayRay against the dirty hippies!

      SAME TIME SAME CHANNEL!

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    2. Re:This is a tough fight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
  2. commence the horse beating by hector_uk · · Score: 5, Funny

    commence the dead horse beating. i start : mach owns.

    1. Re:commence the horse beating by skraps · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bottom line, Mach is the most advanced manual shaving system in the world. The Mach3 Turbo is the world's first triple-blade razor, with three blades positioned independently to shave you progressively closer in a single stroke.

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    2. Re:commence the horse beating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      What?

      It becomes a chocolate credit card?

    3. Re:commence the horse beating by JabberWokky · · Score: 4, Funny
      I believe you're thinking of the M3 Power. If you're getting electric pulses off the M3 Turbo, you're standing in a puddle in your bathroom and you have a bad ground to your electrical outlet.

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    4. Re:commence the horse beating by henrywood · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not many of us even get a chance to pleasure the world's finest lady.

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    5. Re:commence the horse beating by paladin_tom · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, take my pants off and you have the world's finest lady-pleasuring device.


      Trust me, it works.

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    6. Re:commence the horse beating by JabberWokky · · Score: 4, Funny
      Just because they are screaming doesn't mean it is from extacy. ;)

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    7. Re:commence the horse beating by Howski · · Score: 3, Funny
      No, take my pants off and you have the world's finest lady-pleasuring device.


      Speaking of dead horse beating...
    8. Re:commence the horse beating by FlyingPostman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shave her first, and then take the blade off. Now were talking.

  3. That's the reason Apple's come in those colours... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    So people can do the

    You got a light Mac?
    No, but I've got dark brown NeXT machine.

    joke.

  4. Why warn us? Super Slashdot Effect by licamell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Warning: link is to a PDF"

    Um, if you want to warn anyone maybe you should warn the sys admin of the server that hosts the PDF file that you just put a link to on the main page of slashdot. I think they'll care a little more about the super slashdot effect (I'm coining that term for when a non-html file is linked to from slashdot - be it pdf, mpg, avi, etc.) than we will about taking the extra time to load.

  5. Here's an idea for some news - by Kipsaysso · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's ask what OS is better. The Apple and Linux people will go at each others throats and will in the end agree that they hate Window$.

    Smucks.

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    1. Re:Here's an idea for some news - by Yaztromo · · Score: 3, Funny
      Let's ask what OS is better. The Apple and Linux people will go at each others throats and will in the end agree that they hate Window$.

      I, for one, envision a different outcome. One which is more fair to everyone involved:

      "Well ladies and gentlemen, I don't think any of our contestants this evening have succeeded in encapsulating the intricacies of kernel design, so I'm going to award the first prize this evening to the girl with the biggest tits."

      Yaz.

  6. Re:MirrorDot by Milo+of+Kroton · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why is .pdf matter? Does not the American Slashdotter not read the article, true?

  7. Ahhh!! Nachos!!! by LanMan04 · · Score: 3, Funny

    *Commence horrible flashback to "OS Design" class as an undergrad*...

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    1. Re:Ahhh!! Nachos!!! by Laxitive · · Score: 2, Funny


      WHY? WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME?

      The therapy was working.. I had almost blotted out the existence of Nachos altogether. Now it's all coming back. Why do you feel the need to hurt me so? *sob*

      -Laxitive

  8. Great OS Book - but what's Steve up to now? by kriegsman · · Score: 4, Funny
    Operating System Concepts is a great book for learning about what an OS is and the design choices that go into building one. We used that book way back in my college days, and it's one of the few textbooks I actually kept. Here's an excerpt from the (linked PDF) chapter on Mach:
    Mach 2.5 is also the basis for the operating system on the NeXT workstation, the brainchild of Steve Jobs, of Apple Computer fame.

    So... does anyone here know what Steve Jobs and Mach have been up to since their halcyon days at NeXT?
    1. Re:Great OS Book - but what's Steve up to now? by Chucker23N · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hear he sells songs and music players for some coke company. ;-)

  9. Right tool for the job by aardwolf64 · · Score: 2, Funny

    use the right tool for the job, be that Linux, mac, windows, whatever

    Yes. For instance, if you're wanting to test out the effects of the latest greatest spyware, use Windows and IE to do anything on the Internet.

  10. This article is troll. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Period.

  11. Re:Debate? what debate? by Slashcrap · · Score: 2, Funny

    There is no debate. It has been well accepted that micro-kernels are the way to go.

    Which is why nowadays it's impossible to find a widely used OS that isn't based on a microkernel!

  12. Re:qnx does just fine with a u-kernel and message by fistfullast33l · · Score: 2, Funny

    Andrew Tenenbaum, is that you?

  13. Let's secretly watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    as we switch Steve Job's kernel beans with new Roaster's Light Linux Beans.

    Now, let's see if he notices!

    1. Re:Let's secretly watch by catdevnull · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dude. You get catdevnull's unoffical "Funny" mod + 5 of the day.

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  14. Re:RMS, Is That You? by cold+fjord · · Score: 2, Funny

    Should start saying Apple/Mach now?

    I don't think that is needed since more than enough people mock Apple already.

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  15. Confused am I . . . by gmby · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Linux is a kernel, not an operating system....."
    Then what is the name of the OS?
    Is it Redhat, Debian, Mandrake; I thought those were distributions?
    Is it GNU? or maybe GNU/Linux? HURD?
    GNOME? KDE? - Desktops?
    It's not UNIX! Or is it? SCO was right?!! ahhh!$@$#

    I KNOW! IT'S TUX!

    YEAH! That's the ticket! It's TUX!

    TUX Rocks!
    TUX Rolls!
    TUX Rules!

    http://www.tux.org/

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  16. an old joke... by rplacd · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Mach was the greatest intellectual fraud in the last ten years."
    "What about X?"
    "I said `intellectual'."
    ;login, 9/1990

  17. Re:Xnu, not mach by say__10 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Xnu... Xenu... I knew it, all hail our scientologist overlords! Lord Cruise and Travolta shall rule the lands!

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  18. Re:L4 performance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Yes, Apple should totally follow the direction of HURD, as they are truly pioneers in not-releasing useable software, from which Apple could learn a lot from.

  19. Re:They're both better! by John+Newman · · Score: 3, Funny

    What's better? PHP or Python?

    Perl.

  20. Re:Mono / Micro by MasonMcD · · Score: 2, Funny

    Linux is in spirit a monolithic design, and MacOS is in spirit a mach-based microkernel design.

    More like Linux is like a farming co-op, XNU is Monsanto.

    Or, maybe Linux is like a monkey with a spanner, and XNU is like a komodo dragon with a toothache.

    No, wait. Linux is like a pulmonary thrombosis! and XNU is the dropped sponge in a gastric bypass!

    Damn! OK! I admit it! My analogies have fallen, and they can't get up.

    I will now explain the difference with an interpretive dance, perhaps some origami.

  21. Re:They're both better! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Always nice to see an exception to "It's funny because it's true".